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Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:17:15 2018 No.9695072 [Reply] [Original]

>"studies have shown"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:27:46 2018 No.9695096 that's not how quotes work

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:42:36 2018 No.9695125 File: 107 KB, 645x773, brainlet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >"correlation does not imply causation"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:43:57 2018 No.9695131 >>9695125 Aha! Clearly the large increase in shovels bought caused an increase in ski sales!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:09:06 2018 No.9695189 File: 35 KB, 408x450, 1512452177126.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9695125 >"there is such a thing as the scientific method"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:14:37 2018 No.9695202 File: 92 KB, 825x1000, 645643242553242.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9695125 >correlation does imply causation

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:21:07 2018 No.9695217 >>9695072 >"Scientists discover new..."

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:23:59 2018 No.9695220 >"..... says scientists."

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:25:11 2018 No.9695222 >>9695072 >>9695125 based posters

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:48:17 2018 No.9695383 File: 14 KB, 646x720, oooohhh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >according to science

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:52:51 2018 No.9695396 File: 38 KB, 645x729, 1508779517474.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >"experts say..."

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 22:33:47 2018 No.9695492 >>9695383 This but unironically

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:07:29 2018 No.9695981 >based on the graph...might be the cause of discrepancy

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:14:39 2018 No.9695991 File: 94 KB, 327x468, 32.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >"this recent discovery might..."

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:31:02 2018 No.9696003 >"Global Warming is man made..."

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:51:33 2018 No.9696017 >as a consequence of the illuminating paper by

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:53:47 2018 No.9696021 >>9695072 >hence...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:54:22 2018 No.9696022 >it's proven that

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:55:24 2018 No.9696024 >as was discussed in my conversation with **

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:11:46 2018 No.9696113 >>9695072 >>9695125 >>9695189 >>9695202 >>9695217 >>9695220 >>9695383 >>9695396 >>9695981 >>9695991 >>9696003 >>9696017 >>9696021 >>9696022 >>9696024 Cringe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:48:31 2018 No.9696188 >>9696113 Completely unbased

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:10:12 2018 No.9696241 File: 7 KB, 252x200, 2r.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >let

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:29:45 2018 No.9696278 File: 36 KB, 1024x576, el_goblino.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9695072 >Experts baffled at...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:49:40 2018 No.9696303 >>9696113 [math]\mathbb{BRAINLET:}[/math] [math]\mathcal{THE\ POST}[/math]

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:51:04 2018 No.9696309 >>9696113 Based

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:05:25 2018 No.9696340 >>9696113 Go back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:06:16 2018 No.9696343 >>9696024 >[5] Private communication

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:21:22 2018 No.9696359
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Some common verbal pathologies that annoy me:

1. So, … (thoughtlessly at the beginning of every sentence)

2. Indeed, <banal restatement or amplification of the effete language in the previous sentence, else a point whose emphasis does not benefit the reader>

3. a kind of <something that is not “of” any relevant “kind” but is simply the precise thing the speaker is describing>

4. a sort of (see previous)

5. using “motivate” as though it is synonymous with “present evidence for” to make the next few otherwise uninteresting slides of your powerpoint more… (see next)

6. compelling (used as though someone told a robot what figurative language was)

7. …right? (at the end of every sentence. A specious rhetorical habit and a verbal crutch of countless modern academics)

The ABSOLUTE state of the social sciences

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:32:43 2018 No.9696373 >>9696359 these are good criticisms. how would you recommend getting over doing these things? I think I do these when I talk and explain something, but I think I just picked them up from talking and listening to other people.

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:58:49 2018 No.9696424

>>9696373
in college I applied to a program that essentially groomed us for competitive grad fellowships and so it turned into one massive Cal Newport TED Talk "secrets of your neighborhood Rhodes scholar" blog post LARP, but the professor who directed the program was a scholar of Dickens from the English department. Naturally, he focused a lot on composing personal statements and not speaking like a numale in interviews.

Just learn to write well, be direct, don't use passive verbs. Say what you mean and don't be overly diffident. One of the LARP activities this prof required was called "officer speak", and we took a writing sample and stripped each sentence of frills and ambiguity. You can also find a numbered list of good writing practices and force yourself to adhere to it. We had to rewrite any assignments that violated the program's 10 or 12 point list of rules for good writing, often without direction as to the violation in question. Becoming a sharper writer will also sharpen your speech.

I associate the list above most strongly with social science and humanities grad students. They develop this effete manner of speaking that couches every single observation in a qualification. I think it stems from a heavily internalized fear of being corrected, because that is a trait that is selected for in academia. Avoiding getting marked down on papers tends towards higher academic success tends towards having a self image compatible with becoming an academic because it has proven to be "safe" for you so long as you are "safe" for other people.

Look inside yourself and determine whether that is the underlying source of your verbal pathologies. Good luck anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:06:53 2018 No.9696434 File: 4 KB, 220x230, 1524532265917.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9696359 based

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:09:21 2018 No.9696442
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>>9696424
>I associate the list above most strongly with social science and humanities grad students. They develop this effete manner of speaking that couches every single observation in a qualification. I think it stems from a heavily internalized fear of being corrected, because that is a trait that is selected for in academia. Avoiding getting marked down on papers tends towards higher academic success tends towards having a self image compatible with becoming an academic because it has proven to be "safe" for you so long as you are "safe" for other people.
This ought to be printed and framed in every classroom. Good post

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:29:14 2018 No.9696478 >>9696434 >So, indeed, we kind of get this model that sort of really motivates this notion in a sort of, compelling way, rieeeeeeeeeght?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:30:05 2018 No.9696480 So we looked at the data

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:31:16 2018 No.9696483 File: 30 KB, 480x360, iu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9696480 >so we looked at the data

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:33:18 2018 No.9696487 >>9696343 [7] To appear

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:35:33 2018 No.9696490 >>9696113 >>>/r/iam12andicringeateverything

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:37:13 2018 No.9696494 >>9696359 >sciences >social hehe

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:37:43 2018 No.9696495 >>9696359 Good/10 Nothing wrong with saying the proper equivalent of "...right?", a tag question, every once in a while. But if you are saying it too often might as well turn On ebonics and practice repeat "Know what I am saying?" right now.

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:43:35 2018 No.9696508

>>9696359
you forgot
>actually...
>giving completely inacurate explanations to make it sound simple
>not telling every part of the experiment
>giving only one hiposthesis as "the conclusion"
>science says
i dont know if this is considered but i wanted to participate
brainlet.jpeg

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:57:50 2018 No.9696536 >>9696494 what is the meme here, just saying social sciences aren't real sciences or what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 20:53:47 2018 No.9696669 >>9696536 >just saying social sciences aren't real sciences you nailed it

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:00:42 2018 No.9696684 >>9696669 ok that's just stating the obvious what do you want me to call them? they're legitimate fields, they're not humanities, and they don't claim to be natural or physical sciences

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:04:02 2018 No.9696686 File: 133 KB, 500x417, blackholebrain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9695072 >causation implies correlation

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:24:06 2018 No.9696803 >statistically speaking

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 23:19:27 2018 No.9696907 File: 58 KB, 645x729, 1512434908087.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9696686 >implication causates correlation

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 23:25:12 2018 No.9696919 >>9696686 causation does imply correlation tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:54:05 2018 No.9697889 >Experts agree..

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 03:35:56 2018 No.9698966 >>9695072 dat chin tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:05:16 2018 No.9698994 >>9696343 >[1]This was once revealed to me in a dream.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:19:17 2018 No.9699003 >>9698966 That's what inbreeding does to a royal family.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 07:02:04 2018 No.9699123 >>9695125 >>9695202 correlation INFERS causation

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:22:24 2018 No.9699200 >>9699123 >inferring "causation" from constant conjunction I'd post Hume, but someone beat me to it.

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