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Is NASA wasting our money. I trust the Earth is round based on the Egyptian mathematics proving it.
But something is fucked up with how NASA does imaging.
Like this image from NASA website.
Can someone please give me a reasonable explanation for a giant glare spot coming from UNDER a cloud?

>> No.9693142

holy shit the Houthis are testing NUKES

>> No.9693144

>>9693119
They could have forgotten to remove the sun when performing the photoshop.

>> No.9693146

>>9693119
btfo you whining faggot
nasa gets just 0.5% of the budget

>> No.9693151

>>9693119
>reasonable explanation for a giant glare spot coming from UNDER a cloud
What cloud?

>> No.9693152

>>9693146
So are you saying they use that budget for photoshop?
Did you see their twitter today where they posted a CG gif that is a render of two of these images?

>> No.9693156

>>9693151
its literally right in the middle, and the gloud is pretty dark, zoom in and the glar is obviously behind it. The glare does not appear in other images.

>> No.9693158

>>9693156
>Zoom in
I did and there is literally a gap in the clouds in the center of the image where the reflection comes from.

>> No.9693162

>>9693156
Clouds are only dark from the bottom dumb-ass.

>> No.9693166
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9693166

>obvious glare from under clouds
>/sci/jews pretend it doesn't exist

>> No.9693169
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>>9693158
>>9693162
Are you guys blind or retarded. Here is additional zoom from the built in tool on NASA's website

>> No.9693175

>>9693142
So far best explanation outside NASA being fake and gay

>> No.9693203

>>9693169
Inner earth entrance
I’m getting sleepy

>> No.9693204

The glare is from the sun. Not sure what the darker stuff around it is.

Is it a still image or can you spin the globe around?
It could just be funky specular maps if you can spin it with your mouse.
If not then i guess clouds or currents (if they can do that)

>> No.9693214

>>9693156
> the gloud is pretty dark,
Clouds are only dark when they are being blocked from sunlight.
I would chalk it up to a freak perfect alignment for reflection of the Sun into the camera. The DSCOVR satellite isn't perfectly stationary at L1 so there is probably a period for this occuring.

>> No.9693216

>>9693204
The images are taken once an hour it looks like. so 12 pictures from yesterday uploaded.
So are you suggesting to sun is reflecting off the water and thats why the darker clouds are on top of it? Its obvious that they are in front of the glare between the camera.

>> No.9693220

>>9693214
The glare is literally under this clouds and shinning through them. Not sure how you square that. They should be lite up. like most of the clouds around them

>> No.9693225

>>9693169
>>9693204
Oh I see, now I can explain this.
It is the reflection of the Sun. The direct reflection is much brighter than just an object being in the direct light, imagine a mirror in direct sunlight compared to a mirror reflecting sunlight in your eyes.
Because this reflection is so bright it makes the surrounding clouds look darker, the clouds are also getting bottom lit by the reflection.

>> No.9693231

>>9693225
so you are saying the water is reflecting the sun that intensely?

>> No.9693232

>>9693220
There is a gap between the clouds the reflection is shining through. It's "under" the clouds bcause it's reflecting off the ocean. Water is a little more reflective than clouds.

>> No.9693234

>>9693231
Yes. Have you ever witnessed how bright a reflection off a body of water is?

>> No.9693247

>>9693231
do you know how high earth's albedo is?

>> No.9693252

>>9693234
Can't say I have from 800,000 miles away. So why would it relfect here but not anywhere else? With the earth being a sphere there should be a lot of angles to the sun at any given time over water.

>> No.9693255

>>9693252
Whenever I have seen the sub behind clouds, those clouds are usually very bright .

>> No.9693257

>>9693169
that's god watching over us.

>> No.9693258

>>9693252
It is reflecting it everywhere else it's just that the satellite is in perfect alignment in this instance.

>> No.9693284
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>>9693225
Don't tell me it took you guys ITT this fucking long to figure out the sun can cause glares

>> No.9693285

>>9693214
>at L1
¥satellite between earth and sun
¥which means the reflection should be from the closest point of the earth to the satellite, where the water is perpendicular to its line of sight
Everything as expected.

>The DSCOVR satellite isn't perfectly stationary at L1
It says "SEV Angle: 6.78 degrees." Which if I'm guessing what is means correctly, would put the spot 3.36 degrees off from the center.

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9693295

>>9693156
>The glare does not appear in other images.

>> No.9693302
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>>9693295
On second thought I think that one might just be a cloud.

>> No.9693312

>>9693295
ya im a computer scientist here to tell u THE EARTH IS FUCKING FAKE

>> No.9693317
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>>9693285
>3.36 degrees off from the center.
Should be about on this red circle.

>> No.9693318

>>9693252
Goddamn do the experiment yourself. Water is extremely reflective in sunlight. Even from hundreds of thousands of miles away, the reflection would be powerful. And you seem to have no understanding of the basic geometry at play: the sun is so far away that any light from it can effectively be considered as coming from a point source. This is exactly what we would expect a point source to look like on a very reflective sphere.

>> No.9693323

>>9693284
No, usually it's always there but it's super focused this time which is what threw OP off.

>>9693285
From what I understand satellites at L1 actually move in a sort of loop that's perpendicular to the plane between the Earth and the Sun, they don't just park up and sit there.

>> No.9693327

>>9693295
It's a particularly bright cloud because its close to or at the same alignment, however clouds absorb a lot more light than the water does so it's not as bright as if it were reflecting straight off the water.

>> No.9693344
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>>9693317
We can also estimate the size of the spot if the sea was perfectly level and there was no atmospheric distortion from the angular diameter of the sun. That turns out to be a gross underestimate. But the increased size can be accounted for by nonlevel seas etc.

>> No.9693603

>>9693119
there's so much I don't understand about this thread. why does this guy think a glare from the sun is significant? why is he surprised that it will only reflect from water and not clouds?
but most of all, why the fuck are people denying there is a glare or a cloud?

>> No.9693692

>>9693603
because something fishy is going on with nasa
the earth is round, that can be proved easily, but look for a not photoshopped image of earth, good luck in finding one

there could be a number of reasons for why it is photoshopped
1. there is something they don't want you to see
2. humans have never sent anyting to space for whatever reason wich doesn't make a lot of sense because of gps and other stuff

it doesn't make any sense

>> No.9693753

>>9693295
That is a cloud, not a glare

>> No.9693766

>>9693692
>the earth is round, that can be proved easily

Nope. No measurable curvature anywhere.

>> No.9693797
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9693797

Globecucks on suicide watch. Desperately grasping at straws to defend their sci-fi ball. Get a grip you losers and concede that NASA are full of shit because for so called 'intellectuals' you're looking really dumb the more you do this.

>> No.9693802

>>9693692
>but look for a not photoshopped image of earth, good luck in finding one
You're a fucking moron, there's a live stream from space right now that you can watch.

>> No.9693825

>>9693802
Provide the link, I'd love to see this fakery.

>> No.9693854

>>9693797
I suggest people report posts like this.

they all come from boring, antagonistic reddit niggers

>> No.9693881

>>9693854
Reported for being a butthurt globalist.

>> No.9693921

>>9693825
>I'd love to see this fakery
Since it's automatically fake in your brainlet head, pointless to even talk to you.
(Hint: google exists)
Also, I recommend a quick suicide for you.

>> No.9693931

>>9693921
Scared to provide the link because you know it's fake.

>Also, I recommend a quick suicide for you.
Sorry, I don't take advice from globecucks.

>> No.9693937
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9693937

>>9693692
>but look for a not photoshopped image of earth, good luck in finding one
There are fucking thousands of them. Although I will agree that a lot of the images NASA put out are godawful composites, I have no idea why they do that since the real thing looks so much better.

>> No.9693951

>>9693937
That was taken from the Apollo 11 "spacecraft" in "low earth orbit" through the window. They put an insert on the side of it to make the shadow.

>> No.9694325

>>9693119
>Can someone please give me a reasonable explanation for a giant glare spot coming from UNDER a cloud?
because it's a reflection of the sun on a seemingly unperturbed sea surface?
what's eluding you?

>> No.9694522

It's made from multiple pictures put together. It's not unreasonable that edditing didn't catch it.

>> No.9694558

>>9694522
>It's not unreasonable that edditing didn't catch it.

Yes it is. 52 million dollars a day.

>> No.9694592

>>9693119
It's a flash from the satellite camera, dummy. Ain't you neva seen a photo from da club?

>> No.9694597

>>9694558
So by that logic the war on drugs and terror should be over.

>> No.9694606

>>9693252
>point source at a large mostly reflective ball
>expecting more than one majorly reflective source
have you actually seen balls in real life ever

>> No.9695071

>>9694558
a budget that mostly goes to cover for the cost of equipment and running maintenance
stitching some images together on a 3d render isn't exactly expensive, but it's still a cost, and if some intern with blender can fix up something for "free" then fuck it, do it
in this case, https://ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov/staff/chostetter.php is the image curator
ask him directly about it if you're actually curious about it

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>>9694522
>It's made from multiple pictures put together.
No it isn't. It's a full-disk image from DSCOVR.
https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/epic

>> No.9695491

>>9693152

The dark strip is cloudless ocean, the greyer areas above and below are thin clouds. You can see that, on the left edge of the sun's reflection, the thin clouds cross part of the reflection and partially block the sun, but they are too thin to block it totally.

>> No.9695494

>>9693951
<----- /x/

>> No.9695564

>>9693937
>NASA are shameless con artists, and you should be sceptical of every word they say.
>But Bart Sibrel is an honest angel, and you can uncritically believe every word from his lips without checking any of it.
Liars should be punched.

>> No.9695677

>>9693231
Oh yeah. I used to live in a skyrise right by lake Michigan. The sun reflecting off the lake onto my white ceiling caused more heat than direct sunshine into my room ever did. Water is a pretty decent reflector, and the sun is it pretty godamn bright.

>> No.9695829

>>9695364
It kinda depends on the camera. They often don't use the same kind of camera's on satellites that we have on Earth, different sensor technologies and shit.
I think it is fairly common that the camera itself composites, taking an image from different quadrants on the sensor then combining them rather than multiple full sensor images.
This could also explain the darker clouds, the camera exposed for that quadrant, which was very bright to match the surrounding quadrants.

>> No.9695831

>>9695677
Probably more like you were just getting twice the amount of light, and thus heat, roughly.

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>>9693252

>> No.9695842

>>9693317
>Should be about on this red circle.
The Sun was farther south than the equator. In fact, you can see the arctic is in twilight, whereas the south has a bright limb. So the reflection is farther south than the middle of the sphere.

>> No.9695843

>>9693881
flattard Troll, that's all.

>> No.9695846

>>9693119
This is either an artefact from the instruments or is a fuck up by the graphics department

this is
NOT IMPORTANT
and
NOT WORTH COMPLAINING ABOUT


Your just too autistic to see what the point of NASA is.

>> No.9695921

>>9693252
Gloss reflection works like that, anon. The angle of reflection is equal to the angle of incidence. That means the perceived position of the reflection depends on where you're looking from.

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>>9695071
this you fucking cargo cultist go get to the bottom of this get the fuck over 50 million dollars being spent a day that's like 20 cents per citizen or whatever the fuck I'm just so tired of your globecuck muh truth ima liberate truth with muh skeptical mind heh take that science all institutions are the illuminati i got the truth you don't cause you're a sheep fucking bullshit.
>>9695840
spheres. you fucking autist
>>9695846
this to. you fucking autist
>>9693951
"fuck" you

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Fuck me.

OP, this is the goddamn sun glint spot for which the specular reflection criterion is satisfied. When talking about ocean/water surfaces, this is usually referred to as sun glint or sun glitter. Some satellites specifically point onto the glint spot, as the radiance brightness is highest there.

Obviously, the glint spot is going to look different depending on the viewing geometry (distance, angles).

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>>9695985
and this