/ENGI/-Engineering General : Industrial engineering isn't real engineering edition

[Anonymous No.9692089]

Last thread hit the bump limit. How are finals treating everyone?

[Anonymous No.9692099]

>>9692089
Only have one nigaaa

[Anonymous No.9692108]

>>9692089
>class project due in three weeks, the results of the FEM don't make sense but idk why
>giving a 10 minute presentation to my research group and advisor this friday to talk about my research progress, haven't done any research in almost a month
>got a new job, need to teach myself how to analyze structures for buckling because most everything assigned to me is driven by it, and my only experience with buckling was half of a lecture in Mechanics of Materials back in undergrad
>really really feel like replaying pokemon emerald

[Anonymous No.9692111]

>>9692099
same, can't wait to finish this shitty transistor circuits class and transfer into ChemE

[Anonymous No.9692119]

Is research more important than internships if you want to get a masters right after you graduate and then find a job?

[Anonymous No.9692142]

>>9692119
Not really, unless you're really worried about getting into a prestigious school for a goddamned master's, at which point you should go full academia slut and go for a phd

[Anonymous No.9692182]

>>9692119
you don't need a masters right after graduation though.

[Anonymous No.9692188]

>>9692142
Good to know.

>>9692182
I'm getting an ME undergrad and want to work in rocket propulsion. Is there a better way to go about it?

[Anonymous No.9692389]

>>9692142
Is there any reason to get a Masters instead of a bachelors or PhD?

[Anonymous No.9692395]

Isn't Dr. Tyson an atheist?

[Anonymous No.9692429]

>>9692389
Yes, every engineer should go for a master's unless they intend to do glorified data entry for the rest of their "career" or become a university professor. But which school you go to only matters up to the point that your school actually does research in the field you're interested in. Only phd's need to go to a school with real pedigree

[Anonymous No.9692495]

I'm about to graduate from my BA in computer science ad then I'm going into engineering, preferably civil. What reality checks am I in for?

[Anonymous No.9692512]

>britbong studying EE, first year
>unexpectedly win a scholarship, specialising in power systems
>2 month internship at a power distribution network this summer
>not even sure if I enjoy power systems, kind it dry and a little boring at the moment
>can't really complain because engineering scholarships that pay as well as this are rare as fuck in the UK
What the hell am I in for?

[Anonymous No.9692517]

>>9692089
What does /sci/ think of informatics engineering?

[Anonymous No.9692519]

>britbong studying EE, first year
>unexpectedly win a scholarship, specialising in power systems
>2 month internship at a power distribution network this summer
>not even sure if I enjoy power systems, find it dry and a little boring at the moment
>can't really complain because engineering scholarships that pay as well as this are rare as fuck in the UK
What the hell am I in for?

[Anonymous No.9692541]

What's engineering R&D like? Is it different in academic settings vs industry?

[Anonymous No.9692544]

>>9692512
Isn't school supposed to be free for UKucks? Why do you get scholarships?

[Anonymous No.9692550]

>>9692519
Its extremely hard for the school to actually keep track of what you are specializing in for a scholarship for. If you don't love it, just take the minimum required courses to keep the scholarship and take more interesting E.E courses. My sister got 3 years on an Astronomy scholarship and majored in something completely different.

[Anonymous No.9692587]

>>9692495
not much, Civil should only be slightly harder/easier. It really depends on how well you do in Physics 1. If you went into ChemE or EE then I would be lmaoing at you.

[Anonymous No.9692601]

>>9692495
Sum of the forces = 0

There you go.

[Anonymous No.9692612]

>>9692601
you're forgetting: sum of all moments = 0

[Anonymous No.9692666]

>>9692495
civil and environmental are the easiest engineering disciplines. i went to a pure engineering school and its what all the athletes took because it still left them enough free time for sports and some semblance of a life. ChemE and EE, now thats the real suck.

[Anonymous No.9692797]

Thoughts on cheme? Seems like the highest paid one in a lot of places and I assume thats because of oil and mining and shit. What sort of jobs would they be doing in that case?

[Anonymous No.9692799]

>>9692587
Is cheme considerably more difficult in general?

[Anonymous No.9692805]

>>9692797
>What sort of jobs would they be doing in that case?
Pipe sizing

[Anonymous No.9692920]

>>9692601
>>9692612
>newtonian mechanics
Energy added to a system by means of external loads is equal to the strain energy

[Anonymous No.9692924]

>>9692089
>Engineering
not science or math

[Anonymous No.9692949]

is manufacturing eng real eng? asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.9692960]

>>9692949
No, but they get paid real money

[Anonymous No.9692961]

>>9692949
>beats gtr
>engine overheats and car explodes

[Anonymous No.9693756]

in our 4th year we have technical electives that let us take courses in different topics. Should I just pick whatever sounds interesting to me, or should I figure out what's more in demand for industry?

[Anonymous No.9694075]

Is ChemE worth it, or should I stick to MechE?

[Anonymous No.9694081]

civil engineering is God tier

[Anonymous No.9694653]

>>9692495
i hate all these dumb autists who get multiple bachelors because theyre so fucking afraid to start being an adult

[Anonymous No.9694700]

>>9692389
>>9692429
You only need a master's if you're a Euro (or Canadian?) where bachelor's are 3 year programs. If you're in the US or a country where bachelor's are 4 year programs then a BSc in an engineering field is totally adequate for basically any entry level engineering job, excepting those that are R&D or research. But those fields have less upward mobility anyway. People here might boast about "$100k starting salary" and that's not totally dishonest (You'll only make those wages in a turbo lib city where rent is 9 gorillion dollars a month, lel. Its way better to start a job $70k/yr in a medium size city with low living expenses).

What these "Masters in engineer, 100k/yr any job I want :^)" posters are not telling you, is companies are way more reluctant to hire someone with a master's degree and no work experience. Meanwhile, it's much easier to find your first job with a BSc. After working as an entry level engineer for ~5 years you can then specialize in pretty much anyway you want. Sales, Management, Specialize as an engineer in X, Y, Z systems, etc.

Maybe the BSc gets paid less their first year but they start working ~2 years earlier than the masters grad, and by the time the BSc guy has worked for a few years he's already getting bonuses and raises and their salaries are practically identical.

[Anonymous No.9695038]

>>9692544
£9250 (~$12k USD) a year for tuition.

>>9692550
thankfully there's no specialism or other requirements from the scholarship apart from the work placement

[Anonymous No.9695241]

>>9692519
fellow UK fag here. do the fuck out of that internship. I didn't like power as much the first power electronics class but once we got into generators and drives it got cool fast. our power prof is doing research for several billion quid right now and he says power is one of the most in demand fields currently. I landed an internship working on subsea generators and it looks dope as fuck.
i'm willing to bet the one you're doing will help you a lot nore than any of the shitty (((software))) ones being thrown around. digital is fun, but fuck being a codemonkey. the real utility (heh) is in power and control if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.9695246]

>>9692666
EEE who smashed brainlet filter year while also going out a good deal here. you can party if you want but you better be systematic about whatever time you put in towards studying. also stay away from anything other than coke and booze. yes, that includes weed. weed has been worse for keeping up with classes than the skankiest MD you could find. also the comedowns and hangovers suck. you should have plenty of time to lead a normal life if you dont have to wagecuck your ass all the time outside uni

[Anonymous No.9695405]

>>9692111
envious of your uni. Mine offers only EE ME AE CivE and CompE, no ChemE.

[Anonymous No.9695799]

>>9695246
anyone who's not a brainlet can easily drink and party and perform well academically. the point isn't that it's hard, the point is that it's degenerate.

[Anonymous No.9695838]

Depression hit me this semester plus anxiety of getting behind and ADHD and general temporary loss of interest in engineering. Probably going to fail a class and will have to retake in a year. Fuck. Wish I could go back to a couple months ago and start over and talk to the prof. Now I've failed both my midterms, maybe I can pull a c if I ace the final. At least I have an internship and job offer after senior year.

[Anonymous No.9695930]

>>9695838
what happened, anon?

[Anonymous No.9695940]

>>9692089
about to finish junior year Chem E with a 3.8 and feeling comfy

[Anonymous No.9695944]

>>9695246
>recommending coke over based weed

[Anonymous No.9695971]

>>9695944
chronic pot use literally destroys grey matter

[Anonymous No.9696130]

>>9695971
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.9696196]

I fucking hate electronics.

[Anonymous No.9696349]

Is ChemE worth it at all, or no?

[Anonymous No.9696389]

>>9696196
>He says, typing into a computer

[Anonymous No.9696402]

>>9696196
+1

>>9696389
Glad there's people willing to do it but the subject fucking blows.

[Anonymous No.9696410]

>>9696196
>He doesnt like circuit autism

Absolute brainlet

[Anonymous No.9696448]

>>9696410
I'm just fine at it, but this is actually driving me insane, slowly, but surely. I think I need to find something else to do.

[Anonymous No.9696640]

>>9696130
there's a study i can't be bothered to find where the group tested of a couple dozen multiple drug users were tested, but they primarily smoked pot. they had diminished grey matter but higher concentrations of neural pathways. meaning the brain, to compensate for the damaged areas, built more neural pathways to normalize.

i'm sure pot heads will cry foul and bitch about methodology or claim thats because they fucked up their brains on lsd and ecstasy and ignore the common variable.

there arent that many studies about the adverse health effects of chronic pot use and i wonder why hmmmm makes u think

[Anonymous No.9696666]

>>9696640
what about short-term or recreational usage?

[Anonymous No.9696854]

>decide to look up biomedical engineering jobs in my area
>absolutely nothing of interest shows up
>whatever jobs that are hiring ask for either an engineering degree, or a masters/phd in biomed, chemistry, matsci etc.
How depressing, I'm glad I didn't major in this.

[Anonymous No.9696861]

>>9696666

there's no such thing as short term pot smoking. you either develop it into a habit or drop it entirely.

short term use leads to long term through habit building/dependency. long term use leads to short term memory loss and anger issues and turning you into a dull and dim witted waste. no one who smokes pot long term retains the same spark of animation and curiosity and energy they had in their youth. they become soulless bug people.

maybe if you're 15 you might know a couple people who only get high every once in a while but after mid 20s people either drop it entirely and become productive citizens or they keep using it and it become wastes. of course on the internet every pot smoker is a 200k/yr earning CEO with a supermodel wife.

[Anonymous No.9696872]

>>9694700
This is true, but if someone is planning to get a MS or PhD and then go into industry they should also try hard to get a graduate level internship during the summer or maybe even part time during school if you can handle it or a company is close enough. MS and PhD also have higher lifetime earnings on average. If you want to go into sales or management then a BS is fine t.b.h, but if you want to stay in actual engineering and have first hand experience with cutting edge stuff then a MS or PhD is usually better. Also 2 years is not much time in the grand scheme of things and is better then leaving a job and pay to get one later or part time masters, especially if you get into a serious relationship or get a family

[Anonymous No.9696880]

>>9696861
I haven't smoked since august, and I plan on doing it again during my friend's birthday.
>>9696872
I've heard Engineers caution against pursuing a Master's right after completing your BE. I want to do an ME or MASc myself, but I'm probably gonna put it on hold until I can get my employer to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.9696885]

>>9696196
Same. I am an EE major and honestly hate studying anything digital and analog circuits, coding, and anything related to it. Which is why I just got the degree and switched to lasers/optics for grad school. Communications/signals and systems shit is even worse for me and looking back the only thing I liked about EE was RF/antennas and obviously the lasers/photonics shit. The education was still useful though as I actually enjoy doing many home projects involving circuits and coding, but doing it for school or a job would end it all

[Anonymous No.9696904]

>>9692519
>take internship, get paid
>good on resume even if you aren't doing power systems
Many engineering students (at least in the US) don't get internships until a year before graduation, you will have a big edge if you continue finding them.

[Anonymous No.9696925]

>>9696349
I mean, its harder but salaries are higher. If you aren't a brainlet its probably worth it.

[Anonymous No.9696933]

>>9696925
I know the salaries are higher, it's just that with O&G being a dying sector, companies are cutting back on process engineers, and I'd be worried that I'd graduate with no job.

[Anonymous No.9696936]

>>9696933
Oil and Gas is hardly dying, and everything you learn during your courses is applicable to semi-conductors, which is an even better field.

[Anonymous No.9696955]

>>9696936
Are you in the US? I can't find much in terms of strictly ChemE jobs on Indeed from where I live.

[Anonymous No.9697007]

>>9696872
>MS and PhD also have higher lifetime earnings on average.
I don't believe you. Whatever bloomberg article you read that cited this had flawed methodolgy. I'm willing to guess that the BSc grads were including the dumbasses they work for corps like google, apple, etc. that put their employees in direct competition with h1b visa laborers. If you remove companies that actively suppress wages and cuck their employees as much as possible there's hardly any difference between masters and BSc in lifetime earnings. Even if we assume people earn more with a masters or phd those jobs are more likely to be in big coastal cities where living expenses is ridiculous and its impossible to own any property. And again this is assuming you get hired having a masters degree. Theres tons of nu-males deathly afraid of starting adulthood who stay in college until theyre 29 and end up with two masters or even a phd. And there's a limited amount of spaces because as we all know boomers never retire. Being Overqualified isnt a meme.

[Anonymous No.9697061]

>>9697007
Anon google and apple etc. have inflated wages from high CoL themselves...I am not saying that a masters or PhD makes a job more secure to get than a bachelors, but it helps lifetime earnings in the US. Doing an internship during MS or PhD will help tremendously though and will help pay for some of the MS or supplement PhD salary. I don't suggest doing an MS or PhD just to put off adulthood or whatever but advise it for those that aren't content with typical BS work/want to be in more cutting edge work in their field.

[Anonymous No.9697934]

I dont know a lot about how uni works
If i get into ee, and then end up changing my mind about it, can i switch to a completely different program? Can i switch to a different school?

[Anonymous No.9698108]

>>9697934
No, the EE Stasi will break into your room and torture you until you change your mind and continue the program.

[Anonymous No.9698426]

>>9697934
>If i get into ee, and then end up changing my mind about it, can i switch to a completely different program?
this is called an internal transfer. your likelihood of have an internal transfer from EE to something like ME or CompE or AE will vary from university to university. some universities are picky about internal transfers within the engineering department. in some cases you have better chances getting into a different program if you apply for transfer to a totally different university.
>Can i switch to a different school?
yes, if you get accepted. this usually entails having a decent GPA.

but really you really shouldn't consider quitting EE because it pays a pretty penny and the classes are all passable so long as you study enough.

[Anonymous No.9698447]

Who here /engineering physics/ master race?

[Anonymous No.9698481]

Is mechatronics engineering a good choice? I heard that the market is kinda saturated

[Anonymous No.9698557]

>>9698426
Idk i mean after hearing how tough ee is i plan on studying as much as i can
But if i need to have a good gpa it kind of defeats the purpose, because only reason i would transfer to a completely different field (nutrition) is if the gpa sucks
What a retarded system

[Anonymous No.9698581]

>>9698426
The only area of interest to me in EE is in signal processing, and I'd much rather do something like Mechanical which has more interesting material anyways.

[Anonymous No.9698592]

>>9698581
Im the guy he was replying to
I was under the impression ee would be more interesting
Care to explain ur perspective

[Anonymous No.9698596]

>>9698592
Depends on what you like really. I didn't enjoy electronics as much as I thought I would compared to fluids, transport, and etc.

[Anonymous No.9698624]

What drives you guys to succeed and excel?

Personally, I'm driven by a deep-rooted fear of failure and mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.9698723]

>>9698581
"areas of interest" is meme. your only "area of interest" should be making money.

the whole "follow your dreams" platitude is a boomer lie they tell their kids and grand kids so they have an excuse to import 9 gorillion third worlders into their countries for cheap labor and inexpensive strawberries.

anyone younger than a boomer who spouts the same bullshit is a koolaid drinker and trying to rationalize their poor life choices of majoring in a dumb meme degree.

what i've written is 100% the truth but you're free to make your own dumb decisions. so when you're a dad and can't afford to buy shit for your kid and can't own a home, remember a stranger on the internet tried to help you.

[Anonymous No.9698726]

>>9698723
>t. A miserable failure

[Anonymous No.9698803]

>>9698726
literally not an argument

whatever, enjoy not being able to afford a down payment on a house because you bought into the hyper indivualism meme

[Anonymous No.9698931]

I'm in Computer Engineering and I want to do a minor but I can't decide between Mathematics or Computer Science. Which one do you anons think is more worth? I feel like the Mathematics minor will just teach me a bunch of math I'll never end up using (which I don't really mind cause I enjoy math) but at least with the CS I can learn some extra shit that isn't taught in my normal degree like Cryptography and Compilers or something like that. I can choose to take a compilers class through my major but I'd prefer to take more architecture and hardware courses and just take Compilers through the Minor. The math minor also contains a crypto course but I assume it will be less applied than the CS version. If I did the math minor I'd probably take: Applied Linear Algebra, Cryptography, Image Analysis, and Computational Complexity or Complex Analysis. If I did the CS minor I'd probably take Applied Cryptography, Compilers, some web dev, just more programming shit or SE shit. What do you think I should do?

[Anonymous No.9699146]

>>9698803
Nothing you said was an argument either you fucking sub 90 iq retard.

[Anonymous No.9699163]

Engineering is a hoax I studied engineering and its actuallt just introductory shit of every field with no deep whatsoever so yeah good luck with that

[Anonymous No.9699203]

>>9699163
>i studied engineering
You must have went to some shit school if you majored in "engineering" and not some sub-field like mech or ee.

[Anonymous No.9699212]

>>9699163
Damn, it's almost as if you have to spend several years doing actual engineering work before you really become an expert in your field...

[Anonymous No.9699231]

>>9698931
Minors are worthless.

[Anonymous No.9699236]

>>9699203
He probably did BME, I can understand his frustration.

[Anonymous No.9699632]

>>9698931
As the other anon said minors are worthless. Minor in something you enjoy as it won’t help your job outlook

[Anonymous No.9699734]

>>9699632
>>9698931
So minors do not help at all?

[Anonymous No.9700196]

I found out that some of the faculty in my department does fuel cells research. How do I go about teaching myself some stuff on this material, and having them give me a term as a RA?

[Anonymous No.9700434]

>>9698723
you should only follow you interest if your interest can lead to a lucrative career. since this is an engineering thread and not an art thread, basically everyone falls into that camp. you are a faggot if all you care about is making money, go study finance or some other gay shit
>koolaid drinker
that would be you, go back to /biz/

[Anonymous No.9700436]

>>9698931
minors are a waste of time. spend your time/effort on grades, internships, and research

[Anonymous No.9700489]

>>9692601
>Implying you have an inertial reference frame

[Anonymous No.9700660]

if you have an interest in electric motors, is it better to study mechanical or electrical engineering?

[Anonymous No.9700664]

>>9700660
either.

[Anonymous No.9700796]

>>9700489
Both.

[Anonymous No.9700941]

Starting a master's in EE next year. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.9701044]

>>9698931
tbqh im thinking about minoring in japanese. it wouldnt just be a minor, i'd get the highest competency level test i could. i figure thats better on a resume than some math bullshit.

[Anonymous No.9701047]

Is it possible to double major in ee/cs and get A's and not kms?

[Anonymous No.9701059]

>>9701047
double majoring is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.9701060]

>>9701047
>>9701059
also you shouldn't have used an apostrophe

[Anonymous No.9701309]

>>9701047
>Is it possible to double major in ee ... and get A's
no

[Anonymous No.9701318]

What is the name of that book with tips for engineers (how to work with people and stuff)?

[Anonymous No.9702039]

BiotechEng here. Convince me to not waste my life away in academia.

[Anonymous No.9702049]

>>9692949
If you want to do a real job and not be a faggot then do manufacturing.

[Anonymous No.9702131]

>>9694075
ChemE reporting in, it depends on what you want to do. If you want to get hard over columns, pipes and plants then ChemE might be the right fit.
Every ChemE job I've looked into, save Dupont or 3M, they list ChemE and MechE as desired degrees. Mostly MechE to be fair. I feel ChemE gets the shafts sometimes. I might be doing it wrong because I was to get into aero/defense.
T. Junior year ChemE

[Anonymous No.9702151]

>>9702131
If the economy was right I'd think I would major in ChemE, but it seems like it's a safer bet to stay with Mech.

[Anonymous No.9702157]

I'm looking for cool and interesting notes or articles to read on, in the style of

http://mysite.du.edu/~jcalvert/tech/techhom.htm

[Anonymous No.9702396]

>>9692949
ehh, if you are a quiet autist who just wants to be left the fuck alone with machines, then yeah its pretty good. most guys end up just sitting in a room with a CMM machine for $60 an hour. If you can get a gig running a full manufacturing cell, thats the real tits. got a buddy who does that and he hooks me up with some green light time.

[Anonymous No.9703150]

>>9701047

It depends how smart and hard-working you are. I knew a guy who triple-majored in math, EE and CS. He always got A's.

[Anonymous No.9703170]

>>9699203

I think Oxford offers a general engineering degree.

[Anonymous No.9703537]

how long does it take you guys to write the discussion part of a scientific report?

[Anonymous No.9703540]

>>9701309
kek

[Anonymous No.9703541]

>>9692089
do mech. engineers end up being lonely af with machines all day and turn into social degenerate autists (more than they already are)? tryna pick between Mech and EE

[Anonymous No.9703542]

Brainlet here
Can I just say I really appreciate you guys for being smarter than me and being able to benefit society, unlike myself, a worthless leech.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.9703548]

>>9703542
Don't be so hard on yourself. It's not your fault you majored in math.

[Anonymous No.9703626]

>>9692089

>Everybody saying that you're a dumbass if you don't do internships

Are internships not mandatory?

Currently finishing my Associate's degree in computer engineering in College( Quebec,Canada) and planning on going to University(ETS) next year to get my 4 year degree in EE.

From what I've heard, you need to do 3 mandatory internships during your studies where I'm going, is that not standard?

[Anonymous No.9703652]

>>9703541
I wish. Instead, the longer you go in engineering, the more you turn into a manager

[Anonymous No.9703686]

>>9703542

It's so weird to think about my work from a non-engineer's perspective because I remember so clearly wanting to become one and being a naive student.

The entire concept seemed so alien and out of reach. I remember having naive perceptions of what individuals in the field were like. Thinking that if you were a EE you basically knew absolutely everything there was to know about electricity.

I remember seeing this comic a few years back that I can't seem to find right now. I thought it was made by XKCD but I couldn't find it. The premise was basically an Expectation vs Reality sort of thing. Can't remember the exact details but it went something like this:

>First panel, Reality

Person: Hey, some equipment is fucking up, could you come look at it?
Expert: mmh, I'm an electrical engineer but my focus is in communication, I'll have to contact a friend who has more experience working with magnetism.


>Seconds panel, Movie logic

Person: We need you to analyse this data about quantum mechanics
Expert: I'm a marine biologist but give me a few hours and I'll crack this code!


The lesson here is to not mystify our work, we're just specialist. We're not like the movie scientist and engineers that somehow understand everything from quantum mechanics to cancer research simply by having a degree in mechanical engineering.

[Anonymous No.9703894]

>>9701047
Yes but it is a waste of time. You could spend the time getting one degree and doing research, internship, or even just part time job on the side and it would be more beneficial

[Anonymous No.9703910]

>>9703626
are internships mandatory???

I have worked in a professional non-industry role for 4+ years and currently half way to completion of an EE BA. The college I'm attending is not located in an opportune spot for internships. I may be able to get one, but its extremely competitive in the immediate area due to the city's smaller population and average student body. UF btw. I don't intend to take summers off until I finish, so moving temporarily is not on the table. Is snagging a research oriented position with a professor my best alternative? Do you think all those years in commercial insurance experience will speak well to potential employers?

From what I've absorbed online, internships are crucial and many people who say they can't get a job also say they found it extremely difficult to find an industry job. Could it be that these people just refuse to relocate? hmmmmm

[Anonymous No.9703947]

Are MS and PhD level internships easier to get than undergrad? Just because of less applicants and some pit grad students against undergrad, which I would think favor grad students. I am in EE and had good grades and clubs throughout undergrad but never got an internship, would like one during grad school though as I plan to go to industry

[Anonymous No.9703973]

>>9703626
Also forgot to answer your primary question, my mistake. Internships are not mandatory at my school, but they can serve as credit hours. It sounds like your programs are more comprehensive though because I had no option other than acquiring a standard AA with all the usual math,science, and rage inducing "time/money for nothing but credits" courses that didn't teach me anything more than I didn't already know with some added poison on top. This prevented me from taking more science/math/programming electives that I could of benefited from. It's really a shitty situation. The majority of "pre engineering" students at the community college I attended ran out of financial aid before the end of it because, typically, they begin at the near bottom of mathematics. So the elective credits really start to fill up fast and then you still need to get your mandated, multicultural ass reamings from Dr. Shekelstein.

I would propose, instead, setting a comprehensive list of books for the student to choose from and make it a requirement to submit X amount of papers(with clear guidelines) on said books to be reviewed and graded by a departmental board prior to graduation.

The same method can be applied to subjects of history, humanities, and social sciences.
Writing assistance labs exist on most campuses, so if students require additional help, it is available.

Given the circumstances of today, I think this is the best alternative to a true, classical education. Too bad the colleges admins are shits whose interests primarily lie in money.

[Anonymous No.9703984]

>>9703947
>PhD
>engineering
why? do you want to be stuck in academia all your life surrounded by grant babby scientists?

[Anonymous No.9703999]

>>9703910
>are internships mandatory???
Basically, yes. Technical skills are almost secondary, good communication and teamwork skills are more important, and not everyone with a degree has them. If you've done an internship, however, you're less likely to be a complete autist

[Anonymous No.9704059]

>>9703984
Research jobs in industry and govt labs usually require a PhD so that's what I am doing.

[Anonymous No.9704085]

>>9703999
Well that's really good news if widely accepted as truth with employers. Like I mentioned, I've held a full time job for 4+ years. I primarily work with a myriad of business owners and their agents to explain the nuances of insurance and to provide solutions. Hoping to pick up more technical skills related to engineering through self study. Its just seems tuff to learn that sort of stuff when there are so many commercial software programs/applications and such.
I see earlier in the thread, minors were regarded as useless. Can the same be said about an EE minoring in CS? seems pretty complimentary. No?
Then again, I guess everything taught in a computer science curriculum is pretty accessible to anyone with an internet connection. It would provide a bit of structure though..

[Anonymous No.9704087]

my friend is autistic and also gay. He just so happens to be studying engineering. Coincidence?

[Anonymous No.9704101]

>>9703686
Found the comic! wow I completely misremembered it, I knew I'd be wrong about the specific subjects and the exactitude of the dialogue but I could've sworn there were 2 people in the comic.

[Anonymous No.9704177]

>>9704101
>left to right

[Anonymous No.9704597]

motherfuckers i got a fluid mechanics/transport phenomena exam in 2 weeks and i haven't been to any lecture. what is this shit, it's so hard? i legit can't understand it. do you have any advice to understand this intuitively? my head hurts reading the lecture notes and i'm only in my first year of chemical engineering. how do i pass this

[Anonymous No.9704611]

>>9704597
Step 1: fail the exam
Step 2: retake the class and actually go this time

[Anonymous No.9704626]

>>9704611
nah i can't. need to pass now or never. im not a brainlet so i know i can learn this shit somehow

[Anonymous No.9704900]

>>9703910
I did CompE at UF. There are some local gville companies that do cool shit, but the great thing is that UF engineers are recruited like crazy if you are able to relocate for a summer. Yes, start doing research for some professors and if you do well they will pay you. Yeah dude if you refuse to relocate you are going to hinder your career unless you already live somewhere with lots of industry

>>9703984
I'm a PhD engineer. Most of us do not stay in academia.

>>9704059
Yeah that's what I'm doing. Where you planning to work?

>>9704085
Minors are a waste of time

[Anonymous No.9705169]

>>9703541
That's EE, MechE's go onto doing cool shit like researching fuel cells, building rockets and robots. EE's sit in their cuckbicle trying to design a multistage amplifier.

[Anonymous No.9705179]

>>9704626
>doesn't understand shit
>doesn't go to class
>not a brainlet
LMFAO the dunning-kruger effect hard at work with this lil toddler ass bitch

[Anonymous No.9705184]

>>9705179
internet tough guy alert

[Anonymous No.9705209]

>>9704597
how the fuck are you taking transport and fluids in 1st year? Where the fuck do you go?

[Anonymous No.9705312]

>>9704597
>>9704626
>freshman
>doesn't go to lecture
>thinks because he aced all his high school classes that he's not a brainlet and therefore doesnt have to try to understand the material

lol you're gonna be a business major by junior year

[Anonymous No.9705355]

>>9692089
I want to swallow my box of shaving razors right now. I'm too much of a pussy though.

[Anonymous No.9705405]

>>9704597
If you cant properly formulate a question, you're not cut out for engineering.
also >>9705312

[Anonymous No.9705584]

>>9692108
Update:
- No progress on FEM
- Presentation went ok, my professor even said "good" when I finished
- Turns out I didn't need to do 90% of the analysis I did this week, boss just didn't bother to tell me til yesterday
- Went for Torchic, Ralts and Slakoth, currently leaving Slateport

[Anonymous No.9705945]

>>9705584
my nigga.

[Anonymous No.9705952]

>>9705209
UCL

>>9705179
>>9705312
i haven't been to any classes for any of my modules and i just go through all the lectures a week before the exam. still get As. stay mad

>>9705405
fuck you idiot this isn't an assignment

[Anonymous No.9706320]

>>9698624

>Personally, I'm driven by a deep-rooted fear of failure and mediocrity.

Personally, I don't think being mediocre is bad as long as you're constantly being a better version of yourself day after day.

Failure isn't bad either as long as you learn from it, right anon? Hell, it even adds to your experience and isn't a waste of your time either.

[Anonymous No.9706329]

How important is it to know series and sequences in engineering? I just finished calc 2 and got an A but I really hated series and sequences. Can I just forget it now or do I need it for higher level engineering classes? Also is Calc 3 harder or easier than Calc 2? I keep getting mixed signals on this question.

[Anonymous No.9706421]

>>9706329
Calc 3 is easier than calc 2 if you understand calc 1 well and if you're good at 3D visualization. It totally depends. The material is a lot more related and isn't a bunch of random shit like calc 2; it's mostly calc 1 extended to 3 dimensions + vectors.

Also, series are seen in Partial Differential Equations, but many engineering disciplines don't take that math class. They're also used to simplify some calculations (small angle approximation, for example), but I haven't really used them extensively. If you see them you won't be doing the useless convergence tests and shit, at least.

[Anonymous No.9706515]

>>9692395
from what i know agnostic

[Anonymous No.9707574]

>>9706421
Not him but
>taking PDEs this fall
>haven't had a math class since 2012
>took calc 2 in high school (2010-2011)
Ruh-roh

[Anonymous No.9708044]

Any ME majors here? What concentration did you pick and why? Which offers the most jobs in the US?

[Anonymous No.9708774]

>junior year chemical engineering
>people still ask if they'll need to know this in real life
Christ I hate engineers. Post stories, I'm starting to enjoy my anger.

[Anonymous No.9708828]

>>9708774
my prof told me about how this pisses him off kek.

[Anonymous No.9709913]

Hey guys, I'm thinking of switching my major.

I came to college expecting that I would do poorly, and decided on a major with high starting wages, even for people without super high GPA. Early in my second semester I declared my major in Data Science, and made a 4 year course plan.

However, I've just finished up my freshman year with a all As in my classes and I've become fascinated by the idea of getting a PhD in physics and researching the hard sciences for a career. I made another course plan for my school's Engineering Physics program, and it looks a bit heavier than Data Science.

Which one would you choose? Are Physics majors employable out of college?

My career interests are Physics, securities trading, actuarial mathematics, software.

[Anonymous No.9709923]

>>9692089
>Industrial engineering isn't real engineering

DELETE THIS

[Anonymous No.9710022]

>>9701318


Unwritten rules of Engineering

[Anonymous No.9710104]

>>9710022
>Unwritten Rules of Engineering
YOU CAN'T CALL THEM FUCKING UNWRITTEN IF YOU WRITE A FUCKING BOOK ABOUT THEM

[Anonymous No.9710203]

I spend my free time arguing with flat earthers

I want to kill myself

[Anonymous No.9710210]

>>9709913
>Are Physics majors employable out of college?
Nope and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you and/or delusional. But you'll just disregard my advice and end up making 60k/yr as a professor at a community college or doing braindead lab work. Go engineering if you want to earn an actual wage.

[Anonymous No.9710222]

EE in the US nuclear industry for a few years, if any EEs have questions ask away

[Anonymous No.9710227]

>>9710203
You’re literally arguing with trolls 90% of the time, many of them probably from this very website

[Anonymous No.9710232]

>>9701318
As someone who worked as a technician and then started studying engineering (currently in second year of Mechatronics), my best advice is to not allow yourself to be convinced that you are a god among peasants. Be nice to people who aren't from yourbackground because chances are they know something you don't. I realise as I am typing this that most of this is general common sense, but in my year group (which mostly consists of autists) it will make you stand out.

[Anonymous No.9710233]

>>9708774
>Junior year ChemE
>School thinks its a great idea to put PChem, Separations and Mass Transfer in the same quarter because Momentum Transfer and Reaction Kinetics was "too hard"
>Has no idea the Mass Transfer Prof assumes you only study MT
>Homework solutions are 20+ pages
>I turn in 6 pages, ffs
Never fall for the UC meme, not even once.

[Anonymous No.9710236]

>>9709913
> I got all A’s in freshman college classes so now I want a PhD in physics

I’m sorry but you need to slow your roll. Have you taken a physics class? Do you even know if you’ll enjoy doing all that math?

[Anonymous No.9710268]

>>9710222
Is finding a job in EE as hopeless as everyone is telling me?

[Anonymous No.9710270]

>>9710268
No there a fuck ton of old geezers in the nuclear industry and presumable in like fossile etc I would imagine too.

What year are you

[Anonymous No.9710374]

>>9710236
it's honestly pretty funny hanging around college subreddits and forums. you see this attitude all the time from freshmen. "heh, my first year at college was so easy u gaiz, can't wait to finish with graduate early with a 4.0 in EE undergrad then get my masters at MIT and then start with a 200k/yr position at a fortune 50 company..." then 2 years later the same poster will write "ok so i had a mental breakdown junior year (always take care of ur mental health u gaiz!!) and quit my college's engineering program. i'm trying to decide if i should change to economics or accounting what do you guys think?"

it's like something out of a meme or a movie. these freshman so ridiuclously out of touch. its not their fault though, obviously. its the fault of the public school system. public school curricula makes anyone with 110+ IQ feel like a turbo genius. so these guys sign up for 18 credit hours of weed out classes junior year and get demolished. like anyone would. but public school didnt teach them how to persevere or deal with struggle, so they feel helpless and assume the material is too tough for them.

i try to convince these guys to slow tf down where i can but there's thousands upon thousands of them. public school is so fucked. my kids are gonna get homechooled tbqh.

[Anonymous No.9710409]

>>9710270
Currently finishing up 2nd.

[Anonymous No.9710639]

>>9710374
This is my fucking life rn, I wanna kms

[Anonymous No.9710799]

>>9698624
I went to the ghetto schools and I work retail cucking on the ghetto side of town close to a salvation army. Seeing all these sad fucks drives me to carry on so I don't end up like them

[Anonymous No.9710953]

>>9710799

I build mechanical instruments for health care and my co workers are "people who have wasted their life" and i certanly don't want to end up like them

[Anonymous No.9710974]

>>9710104
engineers are the type to need common sense taught to them

[Anonymous No.9711140]

Anyone work in NVH or acoustics?

[Anonymous No.9711168]

>>9710236
>>9710374
Christ guys, this was why I asked.

I've taken physics classes- my university requires them of freshman engineers. I didn't take them here, though- I was in IB HL physics in high school and got a 6 on the exam, with the Engineering option topics.

My 4-year plans don't involve taking 18 credits of weeders. I'm smarter than that. None of my semesters from now on are more than 14 credits, and they have a decreasing load as time goes on to account for increasing difficulty.

Do you have any advice that actually relates to my question?

I've known people to get a minor in a topic of interest (with a related major) and then go on to graduate study in that field. For instance, my calculus professor was aerospace/math minor. How does it sound to go for CS/Physics minor?

[Anonymous No.9711290]

Dropped my linear algebra. My professor thinks all we're taking is his class.

[Anonymous No.9711688]

Third year ChemE student here. Comfy with my big spreadsheet for designing heat exchangers. What are you guys designing?

[Anonymous No.9712036]

>>9710409
just search around for any internship you can get. I can give you the name of some various utility names around the US they may offer something. You have nothing of value to offer from a work experience standpoint while interviewing for an internship so work on interviewing skills if you aren't too hot at it, it will help. If you have an internship and do well there is a chance you will get hired on or offered a chance back the next summer.

[Anonymous No.9712053]

>>9711140
Doing my thesis on acoustics, but haven't been able to get a job in the field in my town, so I'm working as a stress engineer by day

[Anonymous No.9712060]

>>9711168
>IB HL Physics
I got a 7 on mine, and tried to double major in ME and Physics, but wound up dropping the physics major to graduate in 4 years. There's no way in hell I'd attempt a PhD in physics, just way too much autism. I was hoping having all these physics classes would help with my career, but I have yet to find an employer that had given a shit about them. While I enjoyed the physics classes, in retrospect, I should've just started taking grad engineering courses to get a headstart on my Master's.

[Anonymous No.9712262]

>>9712060
They let you transfer your grad courses from undergrad over for your masters?

[Anonymous No.9712277]

>>9712060
Cool, sounds like good advice. I'll try a physics course or two, I think I have the wiggle room.

I take it you did well enough in your physics courses that you could pursue a physics PhD if you wanted to? Do you think an undergrad Physics student with an engineering background could pursue a master's degree in a standard engineering field? (IE Nuclear, Mechanical etc.)

[Anonymous No.9712314]

>>9711168
>Do you have any advice that actually relates to my question?
i answered your goddamn question. but you replied to a post i wrote that i didn't even write in direct response to you.

dumb normie freshman.
>>9710210
>>9710210
>>9710210
>>9710210

READ IT

you won't be the next maxwell like you fantasize about being just because you get a phd in physics. you won't get to do fun and awesome and epic experiments all day and make mad cash. /sci/ is the only place on the internet that acts like physics masters/phd are the best degrees in the world. it's a meme. don't believe it.

are these degrees really fucking hard to attain? yes. but i can tell you with 99% certainty, you will not make a good wage after graduation. you'll be doing grunt work in labs or teaching. if you want to do R&D, get a master's in electrical or mechanical engineering.

but you won't follow my advice anyway because I WANNA BE THE NEXT CARL SAGAN ECKS DEE

[Anonymous No.9712320]

>>9698624
>What drives you guys to succeed and excel?
I want to be able to earn enough money one day support my future family , and support my future wife as a stay at home mom, who homeschools our 5 babbies.

This mental image is literally the only thing that motivates me to get out of bed every morning. Tbqh linear algebra, diff eq, signals, emag, all these turbo autistic classes aren't anywhere near as hard as finding a chaste woman who has a strong maternal drive. That's the hard part. These classes are designed to be passed. Our society isn't designed for the few decent young men and decent young women to find each other.

[Anonymous No.9712392]

I just graduate college and am about to take the Fundamentals of Engineering exam. What should I expect? I don't want to fail. I looked at the practice sample and it looks stupidly easy (there were only about 4 or 5 questions displayed). I have the practice exam on order now though.

[Anonymous No.9712395]

Can anyone recommend good youtube lectures for thermodynamics? (an ME approach)

[Anonymous No.9712411]

>>9712395
it's on the wiki.

[Anonymous No.9712438]

>>9712392
Very easy. Not trying to meme, but pretty much the only way to fail is if you didn't pay attention or do well in all of your major classes
Just remember that every question is worth the same amount of points, so don't get hung up on the 3 or 4 actually difficult problems on the test.
Back when I took it, I did 2 free practice tests from my university and refreshed myself on calc 1& 2 stuff for about 2 hours the morning of the exam.
Oh, also, get the TI-36x Pro (black one). It does definite integrals and tons of statistics that will save you time on the first half.

[Anonymous No.9712443]

>>9712438
>>9712392
It also does vector operations

[Anonymous No.9712460]

>>9712392

It's pathetically easy. They don't tell you your score if you pass, but I was fully confident in my answers to probably 90% of the questions and fairly certain of my answers on the other 10%. I know people that really struggled with undergrad engineering and still passed easily.

[Anonymous No.9712462]

Any anons willing to give me a quick rundown on electrical engineering? Things I should know, what to watch out for, etc. I'm planning on switching majors because my current one is a mistake

[Anonymous No.9712527]

>>9712462
>Any anons willing to give me a quick rundown on electrical engineering?
don't think too hard during lectures about the implications of properties of light and electricity otherwise you'll have an existential crisis.

[Anonymous No.9712539]

>>9712460
What about the PE?

[Anonymous No.9712581]

>>9712539
It's open book. The hard part about taking the PE is having to relearn all the random shit you haven't used in 4 years of being in industry

[Anonymous No.9712614]

>>9696955
bls.gov and search for whatever majors you are interested in. There is State and Area data that shows salaries, number of jobs, etc.

[Anonymous No.9712623]

>>9696861
Absolutely not true at all. Not only do I smoke marijuana often, I do DMT and remain one of the most productive employees at my work. Some people do turn into slobs, but it's more of a matter of working on your self control than anything.

[Anonymous No.9712628]

>>9712623
exception which proves the rule. lying. doesn't matter. that holds true for 99% of cases. but pot heads have to constantly argue for their gray-matter destroying habit.

your brain is being fried. it doesnt happen over night. you're already a lost cause, don't drag down naive dumb kids with you.

[Anonymous No.9712637]

>>9712628
You have sources for any of that?

[Anonymous No.9712657]

>2.5 years into EE program
>co-op and everything
>cancer diagnosis
>spend 3 years in treatment on and off, way too sick from chemo to study much
>full recovery recently
Not sure what to do anons. I have honestly forgotten 90% of what I learned since treatment started. I am terrified of going back to finish up and just failing everything because my foundation is gone. I don't even know where to begin now... sometimes I wish I hadn't recovered.

/shitblog

[Anonymous No.9712658]

>>9712637
there are studies done which show multiple drug users have warped neural pathways through diminished gray matter

good luck finding them though. that type of research doesnt get funded often. i wonder why? makes you think huh? like maybe a population constantly inebriated is desired? anyway i think it was an italian or spanish study.

[Anonymous No.9712679]

>>9712657
I'd honestly retake anything that matters if you're worried. Presumably most of the classes were core, no need to repeat English, so that might set you back a year. Honestly not a huge deal. You're lucky as fuck to have beat cancer dude, cheer the fuck up and get back in the game.

[Anonymous No.9712696]

>>9712657
In all honesty just talk to the EE chair or your adviser. Just chill out and explain your situation, explain your feelings, explain your concerns.
You just beat cancer, they will attempt to accommodate you. Our society needs more scientists and engineer and if you enjoy EE and had good grades before they will work with you to ensure you get back into the classes you need to take.

You're very worried about the short term picture but look at the long term; consider where you'll be when you're 45 years old. If you don't go back to school where will you be? If you do?

You'll be a couple years behind your peers but you'll have a career and be much better off that some dropout.

[Anonymous No.9712822]

>looking at mechanical engineering job listings
>they all require a minimum of five years of experience
Should I just cut to the chase and kms?

[Anonymous No.9712830]

>>9712822
getting hired as a white male with a <4.0 GPA after graduation, without ever having worked an internship, is literally impossible. if you don't have a family member/friend of the family/friend who can hook you up with a job right out of college, then, as a white male, you had better do everything it takes to get internships before you graduate. flirt with some gay recruiters if you have to no homo.

[Anonymous No.9712852]

>>9712262
>They let you transfer your grad courses from undergrad over for your masters?
I meant that I could've just graduated early and started my Master's early, but they do actually let you transfer 2 or 3 grad classes if you do the proper paperwork

>>9712277
>I take it you did well enough in your physics courses that you could pursue a physics PhD if you wanted to?
I'm not sure, maybe, but not at a very good school, I think.

>Do you think an undergrad Physics student with an engineering background could pursue a master's degree in a standard engineering field? (IE Nuclear, Mechanical etc.)
Probably. The school may require you to take one or two undergrad classes in the specific field first if they think you need it, though. I don't know how easy or hard it would be to find a job afterward, though, since that's kind of an unusual combo. Logic dictates that you'd be as hireable as any other engineer with a master's, but recruiters aren't exactly logical

[Anonymous No.9713116]

>>9712830
This is a massive exaggeration typed out by an inferior candidate.
If you're good enough, and not a social retard, than you'll easily be able to find a job.
Not saying it'll be a job where you're making 100k with 3 weeks of vacatio or anything, but you can find one.

[Anonymous No.9713123]

>>9713116
yeah as a janitor

[Anonymous No.9713163]

>>9692111
Smart move. I did CivE and specialized in Enviro. Would've been much better doing ChemE

[Anonymous No.9713332]

>>9713116
So how do I fucking get five years of experience straight out of college? They're very explicit about that.

[Anonymous No.9713415]

>>9713332
no engineer is gonna an entry level job if they have 5 years of experience.

[Anonymous No.9713419]

>>9712277
Thats what one of my TAs was. Undergrad physics masters electrical

[Anonymous No.9713431]

>>9712053
Im a sophomore right now and over the summer I'm going to be doing some research in acoustics. But I'm worried in the future that when i get to senior design i may be wasting whatever i gained from research. At my school there's no acoustics department but there's one professor that does it and other than his grad students that's basically it.

[Anonymous No.9713511]

>>9692799
I'm a ChemE Junior and in my opinion we cover the same shit as other engineers, but on steroids, and then add some chemistry. I think only EEs compare

[Anonymous No.9713512]

>>9713332
it's called bullshit. they do this shit purposely to weed out the people who don't have the balls to even try.

[Anonymous No.9713522]

>>9702151
That's what I thought about petroleum engineering... Chem E sounded like a safer bet, I'll let you know if I find a job

[Anonymous No.9713527]

>>9708774
I mean, brainlets will be brainlets

[Anonymous No.9713538]

>>9713512
I'm not sure you appreciate how specific they were about years of experience. I think you should look at some job postings.

[Anonymous No.9713539]

>>9711688
Pipes man, we are fucking plumbers ): kek

[Anonymous No.9713609]

>>9713538
Not him but I was always taught to never give a single fuck about years of experience. It has served me well. Worst case is that you don't get a hired. Don't avoid opportunities just because they may not pan out. We are all going to make it guys.

[Anonymous No.9713622]

>>9711688
Is it as cozy and warm as they say?

[Anonymous No.9713625]

>>9713511
what school?

[IIIrd I No.9713673]

>>9712320
wow anon, that is real spill.

[Anonymous No.9713681]

>>9712320
>I want to be able to earn enough money one day support my future family , and support my future wife as a stay at home mom, who homeschools our 5 babbies.
I've got some bad news for you anon...

[Anonymous No.9713734]

>>9713681
don't crush his hopes and dreams.

[Anonymous No.9713764]

In two weeks im flying across the country to intern at an automation company that specializes in material handling. I'll be programming PLCs and troubleshooting hardware.

In my 4 years of uni I've never even touched a PLC. How similar is the programming to something like C?

[Anonymous No.9713859]

Do you guys think a year of engineering science would be beneficial for someone looking to do Computer science and Software engineering as their main subjects? Or is a year too little time to learn anything useful?

[Anonymous No.9713952]

Incoming EE freshman, what do EEs actually do guys?

[Anonymous No.9713959]

>>9713952
Shitpost on /sci/

[Anonymous No.9713963]

>>9713952
Signal processing, automation, communication systems, computer architecture, micro electronics, power electronics, power transmission

the list is endless anon, three years from now youll find something that interests you

[Anonymous No.9713985]

>>9713332
>>9713512
putting "5 years experience required" for entry level positions happens all the time in US, Canada, Australia. These companies make open entry level positions only overly qualified people would apply to, so they can then go to their government and say,

"Golly gee, government! Here we are doing are damnedest to find a citizen to work this entry level job for us! But wouldn't you know! No citizens seem to want to apply to our perfectly valid entry level jobs :( So, mister Government, can you allow us to sponsor 3,000 indians and chinese h1b visa workers who we can pay 2/3s of the wages of what we would be forced to pay a citizen? :)"

And then government goes "lol k"

[Anonymous No.9713991]

>>9713681
Nah. I've come across women who want to do that. Finding one that doesn't look like a bridge troll is the hard part.

[Anonymous No.9713996]

>>9713859
What is engineering science? I heard of engineering physics but i have never heard of engineering science.

[Anonymous No.9714046]

>>9713963
Would it be a waste of time for me to try to go over all electricity and magnetism shit over the summer? My physics teacher this year got cancer and the sub was total shit so we didn’t really learn it, I fear being a retard.

[Anonymous No.9714047]

>>9713996
Its basically electronic engineering

[Anonymous No.9714085]

>>9713985
Literally nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.9714108]

>>9714046
Do you have to take an EMF course at some point? It couldn't hurt

Especially reviewing vector calculus

[Anonymous No.9714126]

>>9714085
yes, i am so grateful for all these corporations filling developed nations with 3rd worlders who drive up housing prices, while suppressing wages.

based corporate overlords.

[Anonymous No.9714294]

Name ONE (1) reason I shouldn't go to state university for mechanical engineering.

You can't.

[Anonymous No.9714295]

>>9714294
Can't really go wrong with a Mech degree.

[Anonymous No.9714320]

>>9714294
mech eng is a decent degree but you're only barely above civil engineer

t. EE

[Anonymous No.9714354]

>>9714294
Because engineering sucks dick and you won't succeed unless you legitimately enjoy the field.

[Anonymous No.9714507]

>>9714354
incorrect. i have a great GPA, attend a great college with a great program, and i hate the material i'm learning.

all it takes is "self-discipline", "not being a brainlet", and "really wanting to be able to afford a two story mcmansion in a quiet suburban neighborhood with granite countertops and hardwood floors and willing to do anything it takes to get there"

[Anonymous No.9714517]

>>9712696
>>9712679
Thanks for the (you)'s. I talked to my old advisor and he suggested soul searching and re-applying when I am ready. I might take a closer look at other engineering majors. EE was just what I chose as a freshman years ago and I hadn't ever considered anything else. Now that I have a soft reset, I think it's time to consider what I do want to be in ten years besides grateful for not being dead.

[Anonymous No.9714682]

>>9713431
I feel you, my school had no acoustics research, but when a structural dynamics professor got hired on, I (and the potential grants out there) eventually convinced him to start doing acoustics research with me. A year later, were up to 3 grad students and an undergrad. Dunno what I'll do onxe I graduate, maybe try to get a job in NDT (which involves a fair amount of acoustics)

[Anonymous No.9714689]

>>9713991
That wasn't the problem with your scenario: it was being able to support your family on $60k a year.

[Anonymous No.9714707]

>>9714046
I didn't study AP physics at all in highschool and did pretty shit,

taking it again in college it was much easier. If you've already had some intro calc in highschool it won't be too bad. Its much quicker though but thats alright

You dont need to go over electricity and magnetism in the summer, you will ease into that . It will jsut be better to learn in college

[Anonymous No.9714714]

>>9714354
You need to enjoy problem solving. 95% of the people here are going to use minimal amounts of shit they actually learned in their engineering courses. If you dont enjoy solving problems, finding solutions, and quickly teaching yourself shit on the fly, you wont enjoy engineering.

[Anonymous No.9714717]

>>9714320
ME is harder than EE.

[Anonymous No.9714719]

>>9710222
I'm still checking in this thread if anyone has questions still

>>9714717
ME and EE are the same if you ignore thermo , which every sane person should do

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>>9714717
blatantly false

[Anonymous No.9714756]

>>9698931
i'm an EE and a minor in CS helped me get my foot in the door for a software engie job, since they usually just hire CS grads

minors are pretty useful if you know how to combine em

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>>9692111
That subject has nothing to do, why wuld it be usefull in chem eng?

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>>9694653
same
>>9692666
>chem and not ME
ok satan

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>>9710374
this touched me lol. I really cant focuss going to classes, though, teachers in my uni suck dick explaining nad i understand better reading books, but cant do both at the same time. Also i cant change subjects constatly, i'd prefer 1 subject in one month, then other next month. Will i an in economics? lol i like that too, though... My drem is being an inventor and owner of a industry like h.Ford

[Anonymous No.9714822]

is CS gay

[Anonymous No.9714827]

>>9714756
I'm an EE undergrad, would a minor in something physics related (like QM) be a meme or can be useful?

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>>9714827
what do you plan on doing

[Anonymous No.9714832]

>>9714828
Communications

[Anonymous No.9714837]

What are the most brutal disciplines for undergrad? My vote is EE and CompE.

[Anonymous No.9714853]

>>9714832
Well I'm power so I don'tk now shit , fuck communications kek

Its not bad to learn more but get an internship or experience in the field if you can, it will matter more.

[Anonymous No.9714858]

>>9714837
Computer engineering is brainlet tier. ME, EE, and Aero are the self-inflicted suffering trifecta.

[Anonymous No.9715138]

I don't know whether to do ME or mechantronics technology.

I'm more interested in the mechatronics tech degree but ME will probably open the door to better-paying job opportunities.

Anyone know much about what kind of employment mechantronics technology graduates get?

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>>9715138
tech degrees are memes. if you're smart enough to get an engineering degree, then get one. if you're not smart enough then just go straight to trade school and start earning money and working 2 years early.

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>>9715143
Bad advice.

>>9715138
You'll make roughly the same amount of money either way. I say go for the technical certificate since it's less work, less competitive to get a job, and will let you do more hands on stuff.

t. ME graduate

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>>9714717
>>9714741

I've talked to ME/EE double majors and they say that EE concepts are more abstract but ME uses more math.

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>>9715148
tons of people with mediocre intelligence who can't cut engineering get tech degrees. but they're too prideful to go to trade school. "go to trade school" is great advice. you're just too busy drinking leftist kool-aid to see the worth in a trade school cert.

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>>9715164
This, I was just going to be a machinist or welder or something, but wound up getting a good scholarship. Now I'm a full-time stress engineer wrapping up a Master's.
>mfw it's tough to get a stress engineering position at my company, but they literally can't get enough machinists, mechanics, and assemblers through the doors

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>>9692089
i see all of my lecturers and tutors are all unmarried (in engineering)
am i going to die alone

[Anonymous No.9715415]

Approaching my graduation in ChemE. I started loving the field for the first two years but now it's just a drag and I constantly feel like the biggest brainlet. Anyone else go through something similar?

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>>9715410
Unironically yes. Women will never be impressed with your ability to take triple integrals.

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>>9715410
>>9715453
>engineers in academia have no gf/wife
>women are attracted to money because they are gold diggers
>academia pays piss nothing compared to private firms
I wonder why? Though getting married in your 20's is the stupidest thing you can ever do unless you are marrying a chick who is from a filthy rich family.

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>>9715453
>>9715462
but i AM the girl, and money doesnt attract men as much as it does for women

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>>9715410
Engineers are more sociable than other stem majors so probably not.

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>>9715476
>tfw no ladyboy waifu to bring home the bacon and to give cummies to after a long day

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>>9715495
im not a ladyboy and what the fuck

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>>9714858
>Computer engineering is brainlet tier.

delete this.

[Anonymous No.9715873]

Here's some info for all you young engineers from when I joined the workforce.
>Civil Engineering major
>White male, American
>61.5k starting salary, located in southern US
>10% yearly bonus

[Anonymous No.9716174]

So out of curiosity, does someone with an ME degree working in the space industry make about the same as someone with an actual AE degree working in it?

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>>9716174
That almost certainly depends on their actual position/title

[Anonymous No.9716191]

>>9716174
depends on what they're involved in, but the two are interchangeable.

[Anonymous No.9716266]

I really wish I majored in Chemistry, just fuck my shit up. Can Mechanical Engineers go onto do a masters and PhD in Chemistry?

[Anonymous No.9716301]

>>9716266
If you think the ME job market is bad, just wait until you try chem.

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>>9716266
You honestly seem like you don't have a clue how the real world works. Take your ME degree and go do whatever you want; it's extremely versatile.
What's all this talk about getting a Master's and PhD in Chemistry? For what? More debt and fewer job prospects?

[Anonymous No.9716323]

>mfw you retards will never even comprehend the nature of quantum fields
>mfw you will never even peek beyond the nature of reality while I observe phenomena like the quantum eraser experiment
>mfw I make 80k while being a PhD in quantum optics

wagecucking, not even once

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>>9716323
>PhD
>80k
Y I K E S

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>>9712658
Could have just said no

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>>9712657
You can see about short form classes too if you just need a little rejuvenation of the noggin instead of relearning from square 1. Don't know how comfy you are with the material though. The Dean will for sure be okay with you going back and all just let them know that you BTFO'd cancer.

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>>9716346
That's pretty typical.
About the same for a masters.

[Anonymous No.9716520]

>wrapping up freshman year in EE
>applied to a decent amount of jobs but basically given up by this point
>get a phone interview out of the blue and an offer the next day

Pretty excited to get some experience this early. Kind of a pain to sort out housing and such with this little notice though.

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>>9716346

80k a year for a phd isn't bad but there are also undergrads in engineering making 80k too so it's nothing to really brag about.

[Anonymous No.9716617]

Will a chem e degree grant me entrance to the civilized world? I'm from south America and I would like to get a job in the us or yurop.

[Anonymous No.9716653]

>>9705355


This is the engineering student mindset.

[Anonymous No.9716658]

>>9716617
That depends on a lot of other things, but I would say yes in most cases.
Make sure you prove you're up to snuff by pursuing licensure in either the US or Europe (not positive how it works there). Being able to prove that your base of knowledge is sufficient to meet US/Europe standards will go a long way.

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>>9706329
>series and sequences in engineering?
its literally the most important piece of math you will learn as an engineer. why? because numerical fuckin' methods thats why. you will never solve anything analytically, its going to be newton-raphson or rung-kutta or crank-nicolson.

[Anonymous No.9716675]

>>9710374
every mechanical engineering freshman thinks he's going to be Tony Fuckin' Stark.

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>>9714320

> ME is same as CE

Not only is that unfair, it's downright insulting. I happen to know several ME's that can breathe with their mouths shut.

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>>9716520
They're testing your ability to get shit done and settled on short notice

no joke

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>>9716675
It's a comforting thought.

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>>9706329
Series are to engineering students what algebra is to highschool students - only the smart ones will end up working with them.

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>>9702157
buuump

[Anonymous No.9716929]

>signed up to major in ChemE when I start uni in the fall
>aside from the normal route my college also has a "biotechnology/bioengineering" track
Anyone know anything about something like this? Wondering if it's any good and what the prospects look like.

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>>9714719
A ME ignoring thermo is like an EE ignoring electromagnetism

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>>9716915
so does that mean only grad, and PhD students use series?

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>>9716929
Just be sure you know what you’re getting yourself into with chem e. My best friend from high school majored in chem e and was disappointed to find himself learning mostly only to design processes for chemical plants. Only a few engineering disciplines are interesting and offer job security. Chemical doesn’t seem to fit that currently. I would even do mech e before chemical. At the end of the day do what interests you, whether that is chemical, biomedical, whatever. Just be sure you really know what you’re getting into

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>>9716995
processes sound like something I'd enjoy, but it blows ass that o&g isn't in a good position right now.

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>>9716715
>> ME is same as CE
i LITERALLY didn't say that. i LITERALLY said ME was different from Civ E. just not by much.

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>>9715161
>more math
EE takes more math, too. Typically speaking, MEs take the calculus sequence and differential equations and they're done (like most other engineering majors); EE usually has one or two more math classes to take, and the math usually shows up a tad bit more in class too.
Personally I rank EE higher than ME but EE is probably just barely more than marginally more difficult.

[Anonymous No.9717047]

>>9715415
I can't say the same anon. I love Materials and would fuck one if my dick were that small I mean don't get me wrong my dick is still pretty small...
You can come down to Houston and get ass raped by the humidity, heat, and Hispanics, but Chemical Engineers break fucking bank down here.. I think highest average pay in the nation according to bls.gov stats. That's if you're in USA of course. Stick through it and I'm sure you'll land a comfy job.

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>>9717047
>fuck one
should have specified that I work with semiconductors

[Anonymous No.9717051]

>>9706329
I majored in EE and had a minor in CSE so my experience is only applicable to them, but both included use of series.

The Fourier series is the basis for pretty much all signal processing in EE, while Taylor and Geometric series came up a fair amount in algorithm analysis in CSE.

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>>9716995
I don't think I'd be quite as interested in mech- I used to want to do a pure science major until I realized grad school is pretty much a must to be able to do anything with that.

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>>9716316
Please tell me more. I'm mechanical soon to move into electrical masters studying energy conversion and storage materials. What kind of industries should i shoot for after finishing my grad studies.

[Anonymous No.9717133]

Anyone have weeks or days where their brains don't fucking work?
Spent 2 days studying calculus for finals yesterday, couldn't process the information and made very little progress. Started studying the day before the final and now I'm picking it up easily. This shit happens on and off.

[Anonymous No.9717155]

Aero masters reporting in. feeling comfy about finals because I studied throughout the semester.

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>>9717133
no because i exercise regularly and don't consume toxins (drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, refined sugar etc.)

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>>9692089
>modern algebra final
>mfw international student from the Bahamas takes out his ti-84 and starts tapping away half-way through the exam

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>>9714719
If you don't ignore thermo you get a ChemE

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>>9692519
>>9692550
>>9695241
>>9696904

And there's people who think UBI is a good idea lmao