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Anybody here heard of telomerase ? Why isn't everybody talking about it?

>> No.9688707

>>9688703
Everyone has, it's a meme.

>> No.9688712

>>9688707
why?

>> No.9688769

>>9688703
Because (((they))) don't want you to live forever
Only the elite are permitted
You thought Barbara Bush died? Lol

>> No.9688830

We’re getting real damn close to immortal people and super soldiers. I’m glad I work on plants so I won’t ever have to deal with the ethical issues.

>> No.9688853

>>9688703
Not all cells keep shortening the telomeres until they reach the Hayflick limit.
They're called "cancers".

Apparently, there's a trade-off between aging and not being eaten by tumors.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4893918/
People SHOULD be talking about elephants.
>https://www.nature.com/news/how-elephants-avoid-cancer-1.18534

>> No.9688980

>>9688769
kek but I'm a nigger living in a far island somewhere in the ocean actually, who would care about a shitskin living forever ? I can help them if they needed anyway...

>> No.9689058

>>9688853
Good ol' p53

>> No.9689110

>>9688853
What if we just had every successive generation engineered with longer fucking telomeres? Seems to me that while aging sucks, and so do tumors, being able to keep one relative "youth" even into the "age" of say 50 or 60, seems like a good way to work forward. I'm sure governments around the world might be happier knowing a populace could work until they're 140 before retiring, thats a fuckload more months of income taxes. Living longer may also make people not have such a rush to have children before they "feel old", again. It would constrain economic growth, meaning fewer smaller changes, but wouldn't lessen it much.
(Devil's bargain: ones senior years would also be extended, making pension payments stretch on for more years until ones death.)

>> No.9689277

>>9689110
kys

>> No.9689318

>>9688703
Gracias, doctor!

>> No.9689344

>>9688703
It doesn't make you live forever you fucking highschooler it increases your chances of getting cancer.

>> No.9689418

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fop4B-Qr1i0&list=PL6SJktA-ecJRI7VrWf_-mT0z6lrN--Cvi

>> No.9689488

>>9689344
I'm a PhD chemist, kill yourself idiot

>> No.9689495
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9689495

>>9689488
explain this image then

>> No.9689507

>>9689495
I won't, Don't tell em what to do.

>> No.9689509

>>9689507
sure

>> No.9689692

>>9689509
no

>> No.9689751

>>9689692
?

>> No.9689988

>>9689751
kys

>> No.9690002
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9690002

We can't even cure the cold or migraine headaches. We're not hitting immortality anytime soon.

>> No.9690016

>>9688703
If we think about it, the idea of death would be much scarier if immortality was possible.

>> No.9690020

>>9688703
If a cell can't die you get cancer

>> No.9690021

>>9690016
Like in a "why am I missing out if I don't have to?" or like an awareness trapped in a decomposing body feeling pain-type scenario?

>> No.9690045

>>9689988
dont be so mean i never did nothing to yu dude have a good day

>> No.9690136

>>9690002
You don't generally die from colds or migraine headaches.
Discomfort can be lived with, death can't be.

>> No.9690166

>>9688703
>Anybody here heard of telomerase

Yes, since the discovery of telomeres in 1933. Fuck I hate it when normies come here thinking they've discovered some amazing truth.

>> No.9690173

>>9690020
No, cancers generally happen for cells that reproduce, like skin cells.

Heart cells don't reproduce, which is why heart cancers are rare.

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>>9690136
Immortality with migraines is far worse than any ancient definition of hell.

The point is, you really think that we'll learn to run the four minute mile as far as human life goes before we learn to crawl?

>> No.9690877

kek

>> No.9690889

>>9690166
you mean 1980? kys
>>9690002
>1900
>this guys great grand father
We can't even travel to the deep of the ocean we won't be flying anytime soon.

>> No.9690986

>>9690889
2009

>> No.9690994

>>9688703
>implying aging is caused by telomeres shortening.
>implying u know shit about mol bio
>implying that this is anywhere near as interesting as IPS cells

>> No.9690996

>>9688703
aging is more complex than telomeres

>> No.9690997

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE-og-W-7ps

>> No.9692485

>>9690997
kys

>> No.9693291

>>9688703
Doesn't solve ROS accumulation.
Doesn't solve organ-scale degradation.
The time that this *could* buy you, will be spent in an hospital ward, incapacitated and riddled with cancers.
I'd rather live a good life than a long one.

>> No.9693297

>>9688980
Then anon, you should probably kys. We want less niggers, not more.

>> No.9693620

>>9688712
To lengthen telomeres?

>> No.9693647

What about growing a copy of yourself in a lab then proceeding to a brain transplant? This seems easily achievable...

>> No.9694420

>>9693647
Good luck correctly attaching literally billions of nerve connections.

>> No.9694433

>>9688703
No you can't. Eventually you will get in a accident and die horribley. It's inevitable.

>> No.9694437

>>9694433
>Why bother living for 600 years instead of 80?
Hmm I wonder.

>> No.9694446

>>9694437
Nothing like working for eternity because you can never retire.

>> No.9694455

>>9694446
You really think people are going to have 9-5 jobs 600 years from now? Unless some major roadblock fucks technological development, it seems unlikely.

>> No.9694457

>>9694446
It's fine, you can go ahead and die. I've got stuff I want to do though.

>> No.9694472

>>9694457
Oooo 600 years of Netflix and jerking off. You aren't doing shit. Except being a complete pussy about reality.

>> No.9694482

Stopping telomere degradation doesn’t stop senescence, you fucking idiot. It will add a few decades, but that’s it.

>> No.9695369

>>9688830
but plants can feel pain
Ever ate some beans and then your ass is making fire? Thats plants being hurt

>> No.9695775

>>9694420
More like good luck doing it in time.

>> No.9695788

>>9688703
The CEO of BioViva has undergone a procedure to lengthen her telomeres.

Most people predict she we get multiple kinds of cancer in a few years because this process will likely interfere with the natural process of programmed cell death required to kill and remove defective cells.

>> No.9695789

>>9694472
lol

that's a satisfying amount of jerkin off

>> No.9695995

>>9690021
immortal life is more precious so many people will bunker up and live in basements using pcs to work and spend free time or something

>> No.9696000

>>9695788
she also got myostatin inhibition going on so shell turn into hulk anytime soon

>> No.9696028

>>9688703
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0053760
conflicting evidence on this but calorie restriction + tolemerase lengthening would avoid the extra cancer risk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYNADOHhVY

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>> No.9697709

>>9689058
dom neg mutations in p53 may cause cancer too nibba, maybe you don't want 7 copies