/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9672437]

Why is Euler Oiler if Euclid is not Oiclid?

[Anonymous No.9672443]

bratwurst isn't feta

[Anonymous No.9672445]

>>9672437
BRRRRAAAAAAAAP

[Anonymous No.9672447]

One's a greek name and one's a swiss name.

[Anonymous No.9672549]

>>9672445
>>9672437

[Anonymous No.9672551]

Euler is eww-lar. Swiss german pronounce it eu different than germans, and jewlar was Swiss.

[Anonymous No.9672555]

>>9672551
amerifat detected

[Anonymous No.9672558]

>>9672555
https://wikitravel.org/en/Swiss-German_phrasebook everyone repeats their "facts" without further verifying their knowledge. Pseuds everywhere.

[Anonymous No.9672567]

>>9672558
>wikitravel
also
>eu is pronounced like ä + u
fuck off retard, I live in bavaria, I think I know my german and swissgerman

[Anonymous No.9672576]

>>9672567
http://eldrid.ch/advanced.htm it's in all the references I can get.
http://www.nthuleen.com/papers/130paper2.html

[Anonymous No.9672584]

>>9672437
But Euklid is Oiklid

[Anonymous No.9672587]

>>9672576
your pronounce most words with a long ü sound but not euler

[Anonymous No.9672588]

>>9672587
Why?

[Anonymous No.9672743]

>>9672551
jesus christ, that's retarded
(and also incorrect)

[Anonymous No.9672747]

>>9672743
Read
>>9672576
>>9672558

[Anonymous No.9672782]

>>9672747
>amerifat trying to argue with germans over the correct pronounciation of a german accent

[Anonymous No.9672794]

>>9672782
So I should trust a random anon who says he is swiss over all the consistent answers I get by searching it? My interest in pronouciation and language is equivalent to some random amerifart ignornace and indiference?

[Anonymous No.9672795]

>>9672447
this

[Anonymous No.9672798]

>>9672794
>So I should trust a random anon
No, you should trust your own idiot intuition.

[Anonymous No.9672799]

>>9672447
Mountain jew and Turkish jew.

[Anonymous No.9672802]

>>9672794
amerifat, even tho the eu sound is pronounced differently, its not pronounced like "eww" but like a long german "ö".
also
>what are exceptions to the rule
its a fucking dialect, not a different language with pronounciation rules

[Anonymous No.9672832]

>>9672802
I was merely describing what I heard on some video explaoning the pronounciation, which is much more close to the familiae "e-w" pronouciation without getting too technical. Also, I'm not a fucking amerifat, I'm Mexican and I can tell you that en español, palabras que se escriben igual se pueden pronunciar differente en distintas regiones/paises hispano-hablantes, y aun que el cambio es sutil y principalmente enfocado en la entonación, si es notable (in spanish, words written the same can be pronounced different in different regions/countries that use the spanish language, and even if the change is subtle and mainly focussed on tone level, it is still notable). So while I also cannot assume that how Euler and everyone around him pronounced his surname (and that it seems swiss dialect wasn't ussed for official buisness) it is still not as easy and universal, because language is not a fixes concept with rules that cannot be broken as you say. Also, look up the etymology, it comes from a word that doesn't has the "oi" prefix, and I can't find anything as to when the change could possibly happen considering how much the languange changed since high german.

[Anonymous No.9672837]

In German and Austrian pronunciation, both are Oi.

[Anonymous No.9672969]

>eu > [y:]
>Leute is pronounced "Lüüt" - [ly:t], teuer is pronounced "tüür" - [ty:r], deutsch becomes "düütsch".

this is actually most convincing.

Üüler.

[Anonymous No.9672979]

>>9672437
because euler was swiss and his name is german. here eu is pronoinced like oy

so we dont say e-u-ropa, we say oyropa

[Anonymous No.9673013]

>>9672979
i hope you doy in a foyer

[Anonymous No.9673104]

>why do other languages have pronunciation rules unlike English

[Anonymous No.9673235]

>>9672437
more of the girl?

[Anonymous No.9673282]

>>9673013
the loyf of the woyf is ended by the knoyf

[Anonymous No.9673303]

Greekfag here, "Eu" in Euclid was supposed to be read as "Eff". Also his Greek name has an ending -es (same as Socrates'). So it should've been Euclides, pronounced "Effclidees".

[Anonymous No.9673310]

English is a slutty language that allows just about any other language to indiscriminately inject their essence into the English vocabulary. As a result, English is full of mongrelized rules and exceptions.

[Anonymous No.9673323]

>>9673303
but isn't it like that nobody knows today how the ancients spoke and pronounced their classical greek?

[Anonymous No.9673324]

posting sexual pictures on /sci/ should be a bannable offense

[Anonymous No.9673338]

>>9673324
yes, and there shouldn't be any excuses or exceptions, not even if someone actually posted Yourclid

[Anonymous No.9674058]

>>9672437
Euler is a German name while Euclid is a Greek one, and the eu is pronounced differently in these languages. Normally they get imported into English with the same anglicized pronunciation ("yoo") but the German name gets corrected for some reason to be more "accurate," while the Greek one doesn't. If we use the same logic for the eu in Euclid then it's actually a diphthong of those two simple vowels, /eu/.

[Anonymous No.9674064]

>>9673323
That anon is using modern Greek pronunciation actually, but that's valid too so it doesn't matter. Just don't say Oiklid.

[Anonymous No.9674105]

>>9672447
True, but this is not how Greeks pronounce "eu". It's just that in English, Greek "eu" is traditionally pronounced as "you".
In ancient Greek it was pronounced as it is written. "eh-oo"
In modern it is pronounced as "ef" or "ev" depending on whether the vowel (or consonant) that follows it is voiced or unvoiced.

[Anonymous No.9674216]

>>9672437
I would like tom oil her clit if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.9674234]

>>9672437
Idk wtf the gay prununciation is but im prununcing it Gayler from now on lmfao.

[Anonymous No.9674244]

>>9674234
kek nice one nigger

[Anonymous No.9676113]

>>9672437

[Anonymous No.9676937]

>>9674105
>"eh-oo"
>using the world's less reliable idiom in phonethics to describe phonethics
lol. Leanr 2 pronounce english faggots

[Anonymous No.9677587]

>irrelevant, attention-grabbing image
>one-line writing prompt one-post
>no source, argument, or context
>brainless trivia question easily answered by minimal research
Watch for, identify, sage, and ignore data-mining spam threads. Do not reply to bad OPs. Demand better content.

[Anonymous No.9677612]

>>9672445
this

[Anonymous No.9677616]

>>9674216
*eul her clit

[Anonymous No.9677659]

>>9673013
>>9673282
fucking californians

[Anonymous No.9678014]

>>9676937
Euler is not English, faggot

[Anonymous No.9678102]

>>9672437
because Euclid was greek and Euler schweizerdeutsch

dang murricunts with no sense of language diversity.

[Anonymous No.9678110]

>>9672437
I WANNA SNIFF BRAP ASS

[Anonymous No.9678146]

>>9672437
she's clearly underage

MOOOODS

[Anonymous No.9678164]

>>9677659
foyer is an classic KC meme

[Anonymous No.9678171]

>>9673013
>>9673282
And it all feeds the Tarmogoyf.

[Anonymous No.9678200]

>>9672969
No.

[Anonymous No.9678204]

>>9678200
Yes.

[Anonymous No.9678219]

>>9678204
No amerifat, your opinion on anything but mcdonald's is invalid.

[Anonymous No.9678259]

>>9678219
Döktu Üüler isch üs dr Schwyz und du bisch nüüts.

[Anonymous No.9678277]

>>9678014
Those characters you used as examples are not phonetic though. No language is phonetic. Use the IPA if you want to describe something, otherwise it's literally meaningless.

[Anonymous No.9678880]

>>9678277
>No language is phonetic
WRONG. Most europeans languajes are 99% phonetic. Latin and slavs specially

[Anonymous No.9679235]

>>9672799
>Turkish Jew
More like Gyro Jew or Zeus Jew.