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9655521 No.9655521 [Reply] [Original]

>real numbers
>exist nowhere in nature

>> No.9655659

>>9655521
>real numbers exist in human brains
>humans exist in nature
By the transitive property, fuck u

>> No.9656143
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9656143

>>9655659
>unicorns are real
>because they exist in my mind
Clearly, you’re a Ph.D. Student in philosohy.

>> No.9656166

>>9656143
You might have just inveted ontology, my dude

>> No.9656174
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>>9655521
>umbers dont exist in nature
absolutely brainlet answer.

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>>9656174
>repetitive patterns equate are numbers

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>>9656195
>repetitive patterns

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>>9656195
>>9656196
>>9656174
>numbres

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>>9656218
its literally numbers tho

>> No.9656223
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>Discreet vs Continuous

>> No.9656326

I was going to answer in this thread, but the brainlet reaction images get too out of hand some times. saged

>> No.9656578
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9656578

physics can be found in nature

>> No.9656589
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9656589

>the universe is continuous

>> No.9657079

>>9655521

if numbers aren't real how would we see?

>> No.9657089

>>9655521
no.. seriously.. how would we shitpost without relatively discreet number chunklets of relatively reliable size.

hate to offer you the proof of exactly what were doing but seriously. I am seriously here.

>> No.9657091

>>9656578

how is physics or natural law anything but the operations of nature?

the math only exists as the relatively reliable description of events.

>> No.9657095

>I have two feet
>two is a real number

>> No.9657112

>>9655521
The reality of numbers, like words other symbols, is a function of what they represent. What they represent (discrete packets of something and discrete packets of nothing) is real. That being represented with roman numerals in base 10 is arbitrary (the "base 10" part not being as arbitrary since we have 10 fingers).

Also OP is a faggot from /pol/ who likes to get cucked by BBC while he cleans black cum out of his mom's pussy.

>> No.9657138

>>9655521
>More closely approximate the way quantities work in nature
>Exist nowhere in nature

I mean, it's halfway true in the same way that a meter doesn't exist.

>> No.9658503
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>>9657112
>>9656195
>>9656218
>>9657079
>>9657112
>>9657138
No REAL numbers you physishits, not all numbers. Please go ahead and show me where in nature there is an infinite set of rational numbers.
lrn2analysis.
Jesus.Fuck.

>> No.9658507

>>9655521
They do, in Platonic space. Prove me wrong.

>> No.9658524

>>9658503
Pinch together your thumb and index finger, and then open it an inch.
Right there, there was a set of an infinite number of distances.

>> No.9658532

>>9655521
they exist in your brain, moron. or do you enjoy counting in arbitrary units along your finger?

>> No.9658541

>>9658524
Planck lengths are discrete.

>> No.9658542

>>9655521
You're using a digital representation of numbers.
You can use stones to represent numbers, Ancient greeks just used dots.
We'd have to find a way to represent numbers in an analog format in order for them to have a representation in our universe. And digital is on top of analog. It's a hierarchy, subjectiveness exists solely because the objective universe allows it to, whatever the objective universe is.

>> No.9658546

>>9655521
>t. fucking brainlet OP

The square root of 2 is a real number.
Aka the diagonal of a square with side 1.

Jesus Christ go back to elementary school

>> No.9658550

>>9658546
>Implying integer lengths exist

>> No.9658551
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[math]sq[/math]

>> No.9658554

>>9655521
[math] \sqrt{a^2+a^2}=a\sqrt{2}[/math]

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>>9658541
>the universe has a resolution!!
>planck lengths!!!!

>> No.9658700

>>9658690
But it does. It's even an issue in computer engineering.

>> No.9658702

>>9655521
>Hurr Durr conceptual model used to represent things of nature is not nature

Go back to sucking rocks and living in a cave if you don't love abstract reasoning. Can't believe i fell for this bait.

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>imaginary numbers
>really only exist in your imagination

>> No.9658960

>>9655521
>"Natural" numbers
>Exist everywhere in nature
Woah

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>>9658541
>Thinking plank lengths are the actual limit to how small something can be

>> No.9658978

What are orthogonal vectors?

Learn quantum mechanics you brainlet.

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9658979

-real numbers do not exist
-complex numbers exist

and it is a good thing

>> No.9658993

>Nature is a constantly flowing dynamic, there are no units.

>> No.9659063

>>9658993
Yes but you can compare things, and comparisons give ratios of real numbers.

>> No.9659299

>>9658979
>using [math]\equiv[/math] for definitions instead of :=
Wildbrainlet needs to kill himself as soon as possible

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>>9658978
>i need real numbers to have a vector space

>> No.9659355

>>9658978
Implying qm uses real vector spaces

>> No.9659356

>>9659306
let [math] \mathbf{v} [/math] be a vector in a linear vector space V
then by the scalar multiplication axiom, [math] a \mathbf{v} [/math] must also be an element in V where [math]a[/math] is any constant real number. let [math]a[/math] be an irrational real number, hence you need real numbers to have a vector space, otherwise the vector space is not closed under scalar multiplication

>> No.9659383

>>9659356
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_field

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>>9659356
>where a is any constant real number
holy fucking shit you're retarded

>> No.9659572

>>9658546
>implying diagonals exist
>implying right angles exist
>implying two line segments can be the same length
>implying that you can arbitrarily assign a number to a line segment, and use it as a measure of the line segment's length
fucking geobbys, i swear

>> No.9659586

>>9658507
They can't because you are RIGHT but these faggot brainlets refuse to accept it because it's "scary" to their moronic minds.

>> No.9659596

>>9659572
Actually kill yourself

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>>9659572
>>9655521

>> No.9660132

>>9659586
Thank you, anon, for your confidence.

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>>9658507
>>9659586

>nature

>I D E A of realism / A B S T R A C T objects

pick one and only one

>> No.9660885

>>9658524
>I magically create things in the universe by moving my fingers
No, faggot. The numbers are in my brain. They aren’t “real.” And nothing in nature is a “real” number unless we apply mind to it. And the universe is discreet.

>> No.9662206

>>9656174
Nothing to do with numbers shitstain

>> No.9663554

>>9662206
ITT: Platonism

>> No.9663604

>>9660885
>faggot
Why the homophobia?

>> No.9663641

>>9663604
Because this level of faggotry doesn’t exist in nature. It’s manmade by vaccines and radiation.

>> No.9663681

>>9658503

there is an infinite set of rational numbers between any two rational numbers on a number line of rational numbers.

To wit: Yo dawg, I heard you like infinite sets of rational numbers, so I nested infinite sets of rational numbers inside your infinite rational number line so you could could infinite rational numbers between 1 and 2.

>> No.9663687

>>9658546

DAAAAAAMN. That is keeping it real.
So much for the pythagorean mysticism and melodrama.

How is root two complex? Nigga just measure the diagonal of a square?!?

>> No.9663689

>>9658690

Yeah its fucking tedious but what if its TROO?????

(protip: its not)

>> No.9663692

>>9658700

First of all nice dubs and second how does planck length come up in computer engineering?

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>>9658700