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9642646 No.9642646 [Reply] [Original]

Would you rather get a million dollars every day for the rest of your life or a penny that doubled once a week?

>> No.9642657

A million dollars every day. After 10 days I wouldn't care. Also >brianlet

>> No.9642661

>>9642657
Dumbass

>> No.9642665

>>9642646
Id take a million dollars every day so that I dont have to wait years to make decent money.

>> No.9642671

>>9642646
if you believe this is a simple exponential problem youre a brainlet

>> No.9642692
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9642692

0,01cent at any time. will outpass $1m day in 210days.
>>9642657
t.retard
>>9642671
kys faggot

>> No.9642707

>>9642646
What the fuck kind of retarded question is that, of course I'd take the daily million. The magic penny would destroy our solar system within a couple years and the rest of the galaxy not long after. Worst of all you wouldn't even get to enjoy any luxuries in the meantime because it's all fucking pennies which will be a pain in the ass to turn into real money.

>> No.9642715

>>9642707
I messed about in wolfram for a few minutes. In about 90 weeks your pennies will have more mass than the earth and around the 110 week mark they surpass the sun.
You'd end up replacing the entire universe with pennies in a fraction of a human lifetime.

>> No.9642718

>>9642646
You break even at about 8 months, and by that time no normal person would care either way.

>> No.9642734

>>9642646
Rather just have a gf desu

>> No.9642735

>>9642734
found the only real brainlet in the thread

>> No.9642742

>>9642734
>not realizing you can buy a gf

>> No.9642744

>>9642646
>More money than you can spend in a day every day, starting today
vs
>More money than you can spend in a week every week, starting some time in the future
Hmmm.....

>> No.9642748

>>9642646
>1 million dollars a day
>nearly infinite un-spendable magic pennies that if ever traded, sold would make yours collectively worthless almost instantly.
I dont know anon, hard choice

>> No.9642762

>>9642646
you could invest some of millions per day into an investment which has a similar growth curve to the pennies, and you would have a linear income on top of that.

OP this is a fucking stupid question.

>> No.9642771

>>9642646
>a single penny doubles every week
>not stating that the children of the penny double
>gain 1 million a day or 1 cent a week
really makes you think.

>> No.9642784

>>9642665
It would take you three years to make a billion dollars with $1m a day, but only 30 days with the penny.

>> No.9642787

>>9642784
Whoops, missed that it was only once a week. So 210 days.

>> No.9642791

>>9642771
>>9642748
Between these two its pretty clear.

If op had said something like a bank account that couldnt be deposited into but doubled its value weekly, starting at $0.01 this might be sort of interesting.

>> No.9642796

>>9642646
I would take the $1m because if the penny kept multiplying after I had already used it to buy something, then it would inflate the world currency supply thus making it worthless.

>> No.9642819
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9642819

its not even close

>> No.9642822

>>9642646
Can I choose neither, so that I do not succumb to my materialistic desires?

>> No.9642827

It's a simple exponential of 2^#week. So after 27 weeks it would be $1,342,177.28. so the penny works better in the long run. But who the hell would need that much?

>> No.9642829
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9642829

The million. Not only is the penny weekly. Due to the question the penny doubles.
That would be only 2 cent every time not the complete amount doubling every time.

>> No.9642832

The new penny doesn't double...

>> No.9642847

>>9642819
Why would you ever want that much money?
The universe would overflow with money, killing everyone.
Just give me my million a day.

>> No.9642853

>>9642832
then pretending the first one "doubles" is false-advertising (if the second one doesn't have the same properties, it hasn't "doubled" per se)

>> No.9642859

>>9642646
Fuck off OP.

>> No.9642887

Million dollars because pennies are worthless in the great country of Canada.

>> No.9642893

>>9642715
>what is electronic money

>> No.9642898

>>9642715
I'll take that in Bitcoin please.

>> No.9642899

>>9642893
Not a penny, brainlet.

>> No.9642905

>>9642646
>a penny that doubled once a week
Coinstar is going to hate my ass.

>> No.9642930

>>9642905
>use coinstar to turn 20,000 pennies into a couple hundred dollars
>coinstar empties machines once a month
> two weeks later machine explodes killing sevral inoccent bystanders.

>> No.9642940

>>9642930
>>9642847
>>9642715
if I were suicidal, this is the way I'd wanna go: crushed by the sudden multiplication of billionth of billionth of billionth of billionth of pennies
Just imagine all the crisis and suffering that would occur in the world around those innocent pennies

>> No.9642941

>>9642646
Million dollars no fucking brainer
The individual penny doubles, not the total amount.
Gain one extra penny a week.. the fuck outta here

>> No.9642969
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>>9642940
>billionth

>> No.9642975

>>9642941
If we assume that all the pennies are exact duplicates and also double each time how does that affect your answer?

>> No.9642981

>>9642646
A million dollars a day.
Having all the money in the world is too much responsibility.
One has to question the organization that would be able to fund this.
I'd settle for three million now, and live off the interest.

>> No.9642989

>>9642646
Million dollars, obviously.
Get me that qt 18 year old hooker to lick my butthole now instead of somewhere in the future.

>> No.9642991

>>9642646
the pennies would eventually crush all life on earth if they doubled forever

>> No.9643007

>>9642735
>what is a joke

>> No.9643060

>>9642646
>a penny that doubled every week
wtf I'd have way too many pennies. a million in my bank account would be much more fun and less of a hassle

>> No.9643065

>>9642646
The doubling penny sounds good in theory, but that would mean you need to leave the pile alone and not spend it if it doubles. Id rather have the first option, much less volatile
Besides, the us dollar has about 10 years left maybe even less until the inflation hits

>> No.9643080

>>9642692
U mad

>> No.9643085

>>9642975
I would have counterfeit pennies at that point and they would be worthless.
Give me the millions

>> No.9643102

>have a penny which doubles every week
>pay someone else with one of the pennies (i cant just keep it, it has to go somewhere)
>they now have a doubling penny
>eventually, the number of doubling pennies far outclasses the number of any other type of currency, and they have spread enough so that most people have one
>the value of the doubling penny halves every week since everyone has one
>people stop buying things the day of, because they can wait a week and get it at half price
>retailers double all prices every week to counteract this
>eventually, doubling pennies are so widespread and worthless compared to all other forms of money that people start to find other uses for them
>"penny engineering" becomes the newest pop degree, finding ways to make free energy and structures out of some stupid copper-plated zinc disks
>human race advances on a wave of pennies to conquer the galaxy as they harness the power contained within this chemical anomaly

Stupid fuckers choosing million a day - you have no clue what you're doing.

>> No.9643121

>>9643102
>emision provokes deflation
t. retard

>> No.9643864

It's unclear exactly how the penny version will work. Potentially horrendous economic implications. Possibly a trick. Amount of money would quickly become unnecessary.

1mil/day is simple, no room for misunderstandings, still an obscene amount that is far more then anyone could put to use.

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>>9643864
yeah but ur dum becuz pennie will be bigger number after while???

u need to chose peny cuz it seems small but actually BIG

>> No.9643900

honestly I dont even care. Maybe the million because I wouldnt want to be too too rich. A million a day is too rich for me. I honestly only need $20 million max

>> No.9643956
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>>9642646
It’s the same thing you GENIUS!!

>> No.9644303

>>9642646
A million dollars a day. I'd have to wait 189 days before I had a million dollars with your penny shit, and by that time I'd have 189 million dollars if I had just chosen to wait. If I choose the million dollars a day, I have AT LEAST a million dollars to invest every day, even if I fuck up massively, meaning I could theoretically get a much larger multiplier on my million dollars simply by investing right.

I doubt I'd be able to even find a way to spend a million a day, meaning I'm basically just waiting for no reason with your penny shit.

>>9642692
>>9642661
Absolute brainlet answer.

>>9642819
>implying you're going to wait 50 years to spend your penny

>>9642771
The children of the penny retain the same attributes as the original penny since they're a perfect recreation of the original. One of these attributes is the ability to double.

>> No.9644305

>>9642646
The first, seeing I don't know how long I will live.

>> No.9644560

>>9643085
They still have the worth of their base material

>> No.9644563

>>9644560
It's illegal to melt down pennies.

>> No.9644565

>>9644563
I doubt that applies to counterfeit pennies

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>>9642646
obviously the million dollars a day. if the PENNY DOUBLES, then that means every week i'll only be getting ONE PENNY a week since it's ONLY THE PENNY THAT DOUBLES.

you didn't say i would start with one penny and that the total balance in this hypothetical account would double. you said that A (ONE) PENNY would double once a week. learn to read or get hoodwinked ya fuckin' retards.

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>>9642940
>billionth

>> No.9644606

>>9642853
This is why you bring a lawyer if you're going to ask a genie for money.

>> No.9644640

>>9642646
Heck I'd be fine with getting 1 million dollars once, afterwards I'd invest it in dividend paying stocks that net around a 5% return, make 50K a year before taxes, and continually reinvest until I make a 100k a year doing nothing, At that point I'd take 10% of my dividend revenue and allocate it to risky stuff like options and junk bonds, since any money I loose i;d make back the next year

>> No.9644671

>>9644640
>1 million dollars
Just how poor are you that you think 1 million is remotely enough to live off of? Maybe if it was 1970 money this would be a viable strategy, but $1,000,000 in 2018 money isn't super impressive, and investing, while a good idea, can only get you so far. You're not supposed to treat your investments like a source of income, anyway; it's counterproductive.

>> No.9644719

>>9642692
So? Who cares? You're uber rich beyond your wildest dreams either way. Fuck i'd be set with just for my lifetime with just 1 million dollars period.

>> No.9644746

I'll take the millions. I don't want to be buried under an endless pile of pennies, although it would be cool to see it happen.

>> No.9644776

>>9644671
Understandable, but I live a single frugal life, I only need 20k to sustain myself yearly. I dont need to be filthy rich just enough to leave the rat race and focus on my hobbies

>> No.9644778

>>9644671
It's 1 million a day you retard. That's more than enough. Virtually no one makes even close to that in a single day yet they survive, you fucking idiot

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>>9644778
Ahhahahaha

>> No.9644804

>>9643900
Give to charity and be a benefactor.

>> No.9644807

>>9644671
I've been living off of 10k a year, below the poverty live for the past eight years. I'm not part of any welfare programs, nor do I receive outside charity. I'm not going to lie and say I live like a king, but I don't starve. One million dollars, cash, would absolutely set me up for life.

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>>9642744
this

>> No.9645179

>>9642646
Chess-tier question

>> No.9645513

>>9642646
penny

>> No.9645886

>>9642771
You da real MVP

>> No.9645919

>>9642646
>Would you really have a virtually unlimited amount of money, or a pile of cheap metal that devalued the entire world economy simply by existing?
It really makes you think.

>> No.9645983

I would take a Clairo looking gf who also studies math thanks

>> No.9646125

>>9644804
I guess I could do that. I feel like it would make all money meaningless though. For this board people are ignorant of economics. At one point you would have so much money it would probably just make all money worthless

>> No.9646162

>>9644563
>It's illegal to melt down pennies.
who is going to stop you?

>> No.9646327

>>9642646
If you keep doubling the penny you'd eventually own 99% of the world's currency and pretty much crash the economy via inflation. $365 million a year is enough for me thanks.

>> No.9646549

>>9642646
I could literally own everyone and everything with the penny. I will acquire the most powerful army ever and forcibly move the entire world population except whites to Australia.

>> No.9646618

>>9644576
Infinite copper source?

>> No.9646711

>>9642657
brainlet

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/q5vcmquoba

>> No.9646748

>>9642646
the million. you could literally die within a month of doing it. at least with the million you can have a nice last few weeks

>> No.9646800
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9646800

>>9642646
Million dollars every day as to cause less inflation

Anyone who thought they were being clever choosing the penny option can sit down now

>> No.9646807

>>9642646
who is the girl?

>> No.9646979

>>9642646
Million Dollars.

Why would I want a currency that loses half it's worth everyday.

>> No.9646998

>>9642646
Million dollars, I've seen that monkey hand shit before and don't want to destroy the earth with an infinite amount of pennies.

>> No.9647011

[math]y=2^x[/math]

>> No.9647014

A million dollars every day assuming my first shipment comes today. My grandma got diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer a month ago so I want to at least fulfill one of her dreams before she kicks the bucket

>> No.9647021

>>9647011
[math]y=2^{x-1}[/math]

>> No.9647022

>>9644303
>The children of the penny retain the same attributes as the original penny since they're a perfect recreation of the original. One of these attributes is the ability to double.
Then you can't use the pennies as money, because you'd be giving away your only advantage. Then there's inflation, and beyond that the rather quick onset of a doomsday "penny goo" scenario.

>> No.9647027

>>9642646
Can the pennies be destroyed so that they won't double?

>> No.9647063

>>9642646
>all these brainlets
niggers
a penny that doubles once a week makes precisely 1 penny a week
no one said the doubled penny also doubles. all you "smart" faggots would be broke and trying to explain yourself to me on the docks of my private yacht while i kick back in the private yacht and laugh at you and tell one of my girls to throw your tattered-jeans wearing asses a $10k brick each just out of pure pity

>> No.9647067

All you inflation kids need to go back to school. Your money won't inflate the economy unless you spend it. Imagine if you could print real, legitimate money in your NEET houses right now but none of it could leave your mom's basement? Would it cause inflation?

>> No.9647070

>>9647063
Even if the penny did make a copy of itself then it would still be a bad idea as discussed on this thread.
>>9647067
They are saying that once you give the pennies to someone else they also have a penny that doubles baka

>> No.9647088

The million a day is better, no guarantee you will live long enough for the later option to pay out completely. Also the investment opportunity is greater since you can have your hand in everyone's company with those resources (think private equity firms).

>> No.9647198

>>9646807
Clairo

>> No.9647924

>>9647063
If it doubled it made another doubling penny
That's the definition of doubling you retard

>> No.9647949

>>9642646
million dollars because i don't know when i'll die and i don't have the time to find out

>> No.9647967

>>9642646
When the penny "doubles" does it produce another penny that "doubles" or does it produce a regular penny?

>> No.9647969

>>9642646
>Penny copies itself
>New penny is presumably a normal penny
>Earn a penny every week
Or
>Earn more money than you know how to spend in a week
Hmmm

>> No.9647970

>>9647967
>>9647969
nice meme

>> No.9647972

>>9646125
Not with a million a day. And it wouldn't become worthless, just worth less

>> No.9647990

>>9642762
Damn son all I have to do is find an investment that doubles every week. Genius! Anyone know where I can find that?

>> No.9648003

>>9647990
Easy as pie, you just need to invest something which increases by about 10.4% a day

>> No.9648023

ITT: Brainlets who understand basic math but who dont understand basic human reasoning and sociology. This confirms /sci/ is just another /autist general/
>>9642692
>>9642661
CBA REPLIYING TO THE REST BUT YOU ARE ALL BRAINLETS
>penny option the gov. would notice and would never allow a single person to eventually own 99.999% of all wealth in the world.
>any gov. would freeze your money
>IF the above doesnt happen, everything would be inflated and the world economy would collapse because everyone would to scared af that some random brainlet could buy everything in the world whenever he wanted, being able to crash every nations' economy
>1mill usd/day and you can live however you want forever and it would cause mass panic and it wouldnt end the world

>> No.9648028

The sheer inflation caused by the pennies would devalue the money to actually be worth less than the million while a 1 million a day is simply a rounding error for the securities market.

>> No.9648363

>>9642657
This. After 2 months I'll be set for life.
What the fuck would you even do with more than 365 million dollars a year anyway?

>> No.9648769

>>9642898
>it's just electrons in a compute-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelblitz_(astrophysics)

>> No.9648775

The only argument against the penny is "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH ALL THAT MONEY!?" that's not the question you nerds

>> No.9648798

>>9648775
you mean besides the fact that you'll already have all the money you will spend in your entire life with the million/day by the time the penny reaches a single fucking dollar

>> No.9648807

>>9647990
That's easy: all in LINK

>> No.9648815

>>9648775
If you read this thread you'd know there wasn't only one argument against the doubling penny my illiterate friend.

>> No.9648820

>>9648798
365*50 million dollars is a lot of money but it's really not that much for a non-private person

in 10 years you'd have 3.65 billion dollars, which is like 2 burj khalifas
in 10 years with the penny you'd have like all the money in the world
and obviously there is a lot more that can be done with all the money in the world than to build two sky scrapers

>> No.9648828

>>9648820
>and obviously there is a lot more that can be done with all the money in the world than to build two sky scrapers
Yeah, you can spend your whole life in a bank exchanging pennies (under the unlikely assumption that there is a bank which will even accept the amounts of pennies you are going to give them

>> No.9648844

>>9648828
OP didn't specify a physical penny
and if you had an exponentially doubling object you'd have a lot more problems than handling change

>> No.9648847

>>9648820
It's enough for me. The penny will take 245 days to make you richer than the million/day. The "what are you going to do with all that money?" is most definitely a relevant question because it strongly impacts which choice is superior.

If you aren't planning on buying a country or funding a war, the million/day will make you more money than you'll ever need faster than the penny will. So the OP's question is a simple choice:
>Do you want to be free to do whatever you want forever starting now, or do whatever you want forever starting a few months from now?
The million is clearly the best choice here.

>> No.9648859

>>9648775
What about the argument that within 2 years the mass of pennies exceeds the current mass of the earth, ending all life, and within 4 years is millions of times larger than the current mass of the universe?

>> No.9648860

>>9648844
Exactly. 1 million a day is a safe bet, it easily enough money to live off, and far from enough to cause noticeable inflation

>> No.9648868

If the pennies are physical, fuck that

I'm not rolling fucking pennies for the rest of my life

If not, whatever

Dumb hypothetical

>> No.9648877

>>9648847
Motherfucker, we're on /sci/
maybe megalomaniac plans like buying the USA are more dumb than impossible, but building particle accelerators, space programs, experimental reactors, funding AI research and biotech research and all the other stuff that is posted here every hour of every day of every week does not come on a 365 million dollar a day budget. Million a day is superior for about half a year, then doubling money is superior for the following 50+ years of your life.

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9649075

THE REAL ANSWER YOU DUMB SHITS
>THE REAL ANSWER YOU DUMB SHITS
FIRST OFF

>>9642771
>>9648868

thank you nigga everyone but these niggas in the thread spitting straight idiocy.

Id still take the 1 mill even if the children double
1.im not gonna wait to spend
2a.how do i plan on fucking paying with duplicating pennys
>inb4 bank/coin counting machines
you know that you are giving away your duplicating penny and thus losing potential money each time you cash in pennies
2b.Takes too long to convert pennies into a reasonable medium for spending cheap amounts let alone regular amounts

>> No.9649536

>>9642646
Pennies don't work in Canada anymore. You would effectively be getting 0 dollars, so I'd go with the million dollars every day.

>> No.9649541

>Brianlet test

>> No.9649884

>>9642646
A million a day. I don't want to crash the market with all my pennies.

>> No.9650070

>>9642646
neither, i will never need that amount of money

>> No.9650391

>1 million dollars a day
vs
>doubling the mass of the earth in 90 weeks

>> No.9650501

>>9642646
Million dollars. The doubling penny is a meme. Sure you can do a cool trick once a week but no one is going to pay you a million dollars for a doubling penny.

>> No.9650730

I take the penny.

>> No.9650738

>>9642646
Million dollars, the pennies will crush me to death

>> No.9650761

>>9650391
That would mean earth would reach the mass of sun in less than 110 days... unfortunately the resulting astronomical object would me mostly made of zinc which does not trigger fusion into heavier elements without outside energy and therefore could not function as a sun, which means it would most likely collapse into a black hole around the same time.

I'd definitely take the million dollars a day.

>> No.9650764

>>9650761
110 weeks*

>> No.9650812

I would rather have IQ that doubled once a week

>> No.9650856

After 26 weeks penny would start giving more than million dollars, 30th week would be the first week penny gave more money. That's pretty short time to survive, would go for penny.

>> No.9650859

>>9650856
on the other hand... so much money in lets say 3 years would cause massive inflation and crash economy if I started spending them

>> No.9651510

>>9642657
this, i need only the first day

>> No.9651537

>>9642646
a million dollars every day is also a large sum of money for a person op
this is rather a greedy kike test not a brainlet test

>> No.9652833

>>9650761
I'll just put the pennies in my bank account lot the federal reserve handle that shit not my problem.

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>>9650501
>no one is going to pay you a million dollars for a magical, entropy-defeating object

>> No.9653970

>>9642646
Well, if its just the one penny that doubles, I'll take the million, thanks.

>> No.9654745

>>9642646
Why take the money at all? Are you so stupid that you can be satisfied with just material possessions? What meaning is there to having infinite wealth? Do you really have so little ambition that won't work for even a minute. Truly pathetic you guys.

>> No.9654757 [DELETED] 

>>9654745
I sort of envy you naive idiots with "ambition." People are funny when they think they matter.

>> No.9654995

>>9642646
A million dollars a day. I don't need much more than that and I don't want to cause an economic collapse that makes all my money worthless because the supply doubles again tomorrow.

>checkmate atheists

>> No.9655029

>>9642646
million dollars every day
getting a penny that doubled once a week would quickly get out of hand. assuming that I'm getting literally 2^n pennies in physical form then quite quickly a quite literal mountain of pennies will be deposited on my house and crush it and kill me after some weeks. If it's not so bad and it's just a number ticking up in my bank account, eventually the increase in the money supply that this causes is going to cause such massive amounts of hyperinflation occur that whatever I have will be worthless anyway. Even if that does not happen quite soon it will break the bank's computer systems.

>> No.9655134

>>9642646
the repeated million because inflation would destroy the value of the money earned by the doubling penny

>> No.9655179

>Pulls up to bank with truck full of pennies for the third time that day

>Federal agents waiting to ask where you got all those pennies

>> No.9655217

>>9642646
A penny that doubled desu.
Then all you have to do is eat the penny.

If someone ever asks you "Do I look like I shit money to you?" you immediatly squat out a few quads of cash and leave them stunned.

"No... But I do."
Then immediatly walk away.

>> No.9655231

>>9646711
What if the poster was elderly or had a terminal disease?

>> No.9655451

>>9642646
million dollars easily, the penny makes all money in the world worthless due to inflation so you can't spend it anyway

>> No.9655462

>>9655451
>one individual's private unspent wealth will inflate the world's economy and make money worthless

brainlet detected.

>> No.9655465

>>9654745
>Are you so stupid that you can be satisfied with just material possessions?

yes. enjoy your poverty, pleb.

>> No.9655479

>>9648820
>in 10 years with the penny you'd have like all the money in the world
type 2^3650 into a calculator and see what you get. it's a little more than "all the money in the world"

you'd have more in two months with the doubling penny than you'd have in over 300 million years at 1mil a day.

>> No.9655483

>>9648023
>basic human reasoning and sociology apply in a magical land of doubling pennies and million-dollar-a-day fairies.

>> No.9655653

>>9642646
>a penny that doubled once a week
So after 5 weeks has passed, I'll have, yippee... 6 pennies. Having a single penny that doubles itself every week gives me one new penny per week. The new pennies aren't magical, obviously.

>> No.9655660
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9655660

>>9642646

A million dollars - how the fuck am I going to store billions of pennies?

>> No.9655665

>>9642898
>Take in bitcoin
>Be a poorfag again soon

>> No.9655686

>>9642646
>get a penny a week
>after a couple years, so much inflation causes all yours and everyone else's money to be worthless
Great job retards

>> No.9655688

>>9642742
>wanting a gold digger

>> No.9655700

>>9655479
>you'd have more in two months with the doubling penny than you'd have in over 300 million years at 1mil a day.
You wouldn't even have three fucking dollars by then. It doubles every week, not every day. The million a day will give you 245 days of living rich before the penny even catches up. The penny will start giving more passive money by day 210, but you already had 210 million by then so it won't surpass your total until day 245.

There's literally no reason to take the penny unless you have a good enough reason to spend all that infinite money and said reason is good enough to justify waiting more than half a year to even begin enjoying wealth. If all you want is to enjoy life to the fullest the million grants you that immediately while the penny grants you that later.

>> No.9655730

>>9642646
penny:
>become the richest man on earth in 40 weeks
>three weeks later you crash the world economy
million dollars:
>live comfy for the rest of your life
hmm i dont knos buddy

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9655733

>>9655700
its 35 weeks when the penny surpasses

>> No.9655739

>>9655733
Correct, that's exactly what I said.

>> No.9655746

>>9655739
theres no reason to take the penny not because you have infinite money, but because you have no money after a certain time

>> No.9655764

>>9642646
Hello Khalia

>> No.9655769

>>9655746
Unless you hide the money well. If nobody knows about your magic penny stash then only the money you actually spend contributes to inflation.

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9655776

>>9655769
>unless you hide the money well
kek
1 trillion on a bank account would absolutely get you rekt
1 trillion in pennies would weigh around 155 million tonnes

>> No.9655846

Would I rather be rich enough to do what ever I want, or break the economy?
I wonder.

>> No.9655851

>>9642898
It would quickly require an impossible amount of energy. And the inflation would make all gains useless anyway, even if your currency used a different double spend protection protocol(as opposed to the costly proof of work that bitcoin employs).

>> No.9655854

>>9642646
Penny that doubled once a week duh

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9656152

clairo is my gf, ama

>> No.9656521

>get the penny
>when you have like 10k worth of pennies go to the bank with half of it to get it exchanged for real money
>the bank has 5k in their vault that suddenly doubles the next week
good job now everybody knows about the magical pennies
there's no way to actually use them, even if you disregard the fact that they will destroy the universe

>> No.9656552

>>9642646
a penny obviously, id have like 1 million pennies in less than 50 years.

>> No.9656561

>>9642692
Idk. man, what if you die before this happens.
I want my porsche on day 1.

>> No.9656999

>>9642646
million dollars
cashing in all those pennies wouldnt be worth my time

>> No.9657010
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9657010

>>9642646
I'd rather neither as money is the root of all evil.
>t. wokest

>> No.9657049

Million dollars every day into my bank account.

Magic pennies are worthless, if you spend them everyone is gonna end up with one.

>> No.9657216

>>9642940
>t. Carl Thagan

>> No.9657227

>>9642646
The million each day.

The pennies would overtake the mass of the earth in less than 100 days.

>> No.9657239

okay, real mathematician here:
i take the 'million dollars per day' deal

why is the penny one a bad deal?
let's break this down
>a penny that doubled once a week
>(a penny that doubled) once a week
this means that every week you receive a penny that has at some point in its existence doubled. which means every week you get 2 cents. which means every year you get $1.04.

now, which would you rather get each year, $365,000,000 or $1.04 ?

>> No.9657242

>>9657227
Less than two years* I misread that as once each day, not week.

>> No.9657247

>>9652982
Not every day for the rest of your life.

>> No.9657267

>>9657239
The penny wouldn't actually double if the new copies had all the same property's of the old one.

I'd much rather have a million dollars every day though, instead of a penny that will eventually destroy the earth and our solar system. Also what happens once the large mass of penny's gets crushed under i'ts own weight deforming it into a mass of metal? Will they still be replicating itself?

>> No.9657272

>>9657267
what new copies? what are you talking about?

the penny doesn't reproduce through cell mitosis

you just get two pennies every week

please reread the op but actually read it this time

>> No.9657281

>>9657272
The penny replicates itself. So the new penny must have the same feature, otherwise it would just be a penny-making penny and not a doubling one.

>> No.9657309

>>9642646
The question is about whether you want to invest in american dollar, or british pound. Also, the question is about a grammar, and how to properly understand what OP is saying. Also, the question obviously hints on economical drawbacks of each choice, such as inflation, for example.

>> No.9657316

>>9657281
when you obtain it, the penny already replicated itself once before. nowhere was it ever guaranteed that it will keep replicating.

>> No.9657357

>>9657316
All op says is:
>or a penny that doubled once a week
So you get a penny that will double once a week. There isn't much to interpret here, anything beyond this would be speculation outside the scope of the question.

>> No.9657368

>>9657357
no, that would be "a penny that DOUBLES once a week."

"doubled" makes no contract with the coin's future behavior.

>> No.9657372

>>9642646
After about a year I would be getting over a million a day by picking the second option.

Sage.

>> No.9657394

>>9657368
It wouldn't really double itself it it only retained some of it's features though. At that point every thing that makes it a doubling penny is up for grabs.

>It isn't mentioned that the copy will be metal

yea, I think that is outside the scope of the question.

>> No.9657400

>>9657372
Which is exactly why you don't want it. These are physical pennies, weighing 25 grams each, and after a year you will have a total of 0.025 kg * 2^52 = 1.25 * 10^14 kg of pennies, doubling each week. You'd have a nightmare life of an exponentially growing metal pile gradually engulfing your house, then your street, then your city, your country, and in the end the planet, and YOU would be responsible for picking the tempting exponentially growing massive object rather than the reliable, linear digital cash transfer.

TL;DR your retardation destroys the planet within two years.

>> No.9657411

>>9657394
who are you quoting?

>> No.9657422

>>9657400
Nobody has stated that I would be given a physical penny in the original question.

>> No.9657425

>>9657411
It's an example of another feature of the penny that could be argued against if the penny does't retain all its features.

>> No.9657430

>>9657422
Even if it's not a physical penny, there will eventually be no computers that are capable of
even storing the value of your "penny". It's a shitty deal compared to a million every day.

>> No.9657432

>>9657425
okay.. i don't understand where you found the need to bring up examples like that: whether the coin is metal or plastic or whether it's symbolic.

i don't understand why you think this was a relevant point to the discussion.

>> No.9657438

I'd be satisfied with 1000$ per month.

>> No.9657440

>>9657432
You said that:
>"doubled" makes no contract with the coin's future behavior.
And I say that doubled then makes not contract with any of it's other features either. So now we seem to be way out side of the questions scope.

>> No.9657442

>After a year the whole universe will be engulfed by a penny black hole
A million dollarydoos a day is enough

>> No.9657452

>>9657440
i don't think you understand just how vast the only real semantic ambiguity present in the op is:

>a penny that (doubled once a week)
exponential growth

>(a penny that doubled) once a week
linear growth

>> No.9657455

>>9642657
This fails the Ponzi Scheme Test...if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

In the real world, I turn 360 degrees and walk away, unless I'm a Hedge Fund manager or sumsuch.


In a Social Context, either gives you little time to lawyer up, hire security, buy secure/secluded real-estate. The penny doubled daily method puts you at a weak cash flow situation while envious people are already hot to take control of your income (regardless of consequences to your life and those of your loved ones).

I'd take the million a day, and have a better chance of securing my family and myself against intrigue and full frontal attack.

If, however, I could find a white knight who would front me the line of credit to castle-up, then I'd go for that.

That being said, I must quote the King of Siam (Rodgers and Hammerstein): "If I count on other people to protect me, might they not protect me out of all I own ? its a puzzlement."

conclusion: this is a question that categorizes brains and brainlets... IQ, EQ, and StreetQ
You

>> No.9657458

>>9657452 >>9657440
notice how this is different to:
>a [hurr durr is it plastic or metal] penny that doubled once a week

>> No.9657478

>>9657452
This!
The terse proposition employs an expectation that it will be parsed by people familiar with previous statements of this problem, leveraging context to infer meaning, and break the ambiguity.

properly parsed, one might state

a account of money that increases by 100% each week, with an initial deposit of 1 cent.

I wanted to avoid confusion for anyone who also perved out on Lost in Space.

>> No.9657487

>>9657478
are you op?

>> No.9657490

>>9642646
A million dollar everyday. World currencies are about to tank.

>> No.9657503

>>9657452
Fine, if the point is that it can be read either way then I'm on board.

>> No.9657504

>>9657458
the value of currency everywhere is notional, barring currencies pegged to equivalent reserves in a securely stored precious commodity.

plastic vs. metal is not immediately relevant.

If however, the pennies were supplied by minting more plastic/metal pennies (and the metal is not precious) then inflation would result, decreasing the value of the money.

If the notional value pool of money in an economy, country or world, or region, vastly exceeds the value of precious stored reserves, and/or the value of goods traded in the economy (some derivative of GDP), then the value of the money will decrease.

Macroeconomically, both a million a day, or exponentially increasing compounding funds are both the death most regional/state economies.

A million a day is likely about what a Hedge Fund does in the West...so it might be OK...

In that case, I'll (still) take 1 Million $ per day.

It will take 3 years to approach the wealth of the wealthiest persons in the world, and that is plenty of time to Castle Up, and find productive ways to spend some of that money to keep the world and economy stable for generations to come.

Philanthropy, you see, is enlightened protection of Capital. If there is Chaos, Capital loses value...if there is stability, Capital maintains value and has pre-conditions for expanding its value.

Think of that OP.... $1million a day, no doubt.

>> No.9657508

>>9657487
no

and neither is this guy
>>9657504
>>9657478

>> No.9657515

>>9657478
>solving a new problem by immediately short-circuiting to something you've already seen before
you passed the brainlet test with flying colors and with extra credit

>>9657503
keep in mind that language does not have the associativity property

>> No.9657521

>>9643007
you

>> No.9657538

>>9657515
>you passed the brainlet test with flying colors and with extra credit

criticising someone for being open to a fresh assertion, then reacting with candor and pursuing analysis.....

I like what that says about a person.

>> No.9657540

>>9657515
>>solving a new problem by immediately short-circuiting to something you've already seen before


well waitaminnit....even though I alread reacted in a post...i realize i may not understand what you meant by that...

what do you mean, more exactly ?

>> No.9657570

So you receive a penny the first day, then you receive two pennies, then 4 pennies, &c. (?)

So that's basically the sum from k=1 to n of 0.01(2^k) where n is the number of weeks. Which means the amount of pounds equals: (2^n - 1)/50. Right?

That's £90,000,000,000,000 after a year.

Am I doing this right?

>> No.9657600

>>9657570
that computes the daily addition after 52 weeks...don't know about dollars to pound conversion, it will float, and with trump in the white house, nobody can predict that conversion one year out.

>> No.9657603

>>9657600
>daily
weekly....fixed

>> No.9657888

>>9642646
Neither, I'd rather have you OP everyday as my friend. Because you're worth more than both of those!

>> No.9658038

>>9650812
>tfw have 0 IQ

>> No.9658641

>>9642671
why is it not a simple exponential problem?
1,000,000(7x)
0.1^x

where x is the number of days??? what am i missing? Please help me Im trying to learn how to be smarter. Thank you

>> No.9658644

>>9658641
where x is the number of WEEKS***
I fucked up I fucked up I fucked up

>> No.9658649

>>9658641
1x^2
maybe i am a brainlet

>> No.9658770

A million a day. If I'd get too much money, the resulting inflation would put society into chaos. Especially since I live in a euro country, the whole continent -- And the whole planet -- would be fucked for a long time.

>> No.9659092

Real answer: neither

Inflation would in both cases result in a currency reform so that it all becomes worthless anyway.

The best course of action is definitely the million a day so you can sink it into gold, buildings and classical paintings or some shit before the collapse of the monetary system.

>> No.9660041

>>9659092
Dumbass. A quick google search tells us that there is money with the worth of $ 36.8 trillion in the world. That's 36800000 millions. In 3 years, you get a 0.000027 of that amount. If you live for a hundred years, maybe, just maybe, statisticians will notice that there is more money than there should be (then you would increase the money in the world by about a 0.0009th, assuming countries don't print more money than leaves the circulation in the next 100 years). I hope you don't seriously believe this would have ANY measurable effect on the monetary system

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9661165

>>9647022
Seriously overlooked issue. Penny goo. An unsustainable mess comes from doubling.

I intend to invest in anti aging. Live too long and you end up ruining the economy with the dubs.

>> No.9661179

>>9642646
>crashing the economy with pennies
>drowning the planet in a never ending and accelerating stream of pennies

>> No.9661194

>>9642646
>million every day
The fuck, of course I will take this.
I would have taken it if it was a million every year.

There is nothing said about the penny that spawned from the original penny so you might as well still get just one penny extra per week. If every penny doubles, then you are going to crash the economy and then spawn a black hole. Fuck that shit. Even if it was a fresh bank account with just $0.01 that doubled every week, you would still crash everything.

>> No.9661292

The million a day. Two reasons:
1.- After you've hit the ten million mark you can afford pretty much anything you want.
2.- If you choose the penny you have to wait a long time for it to escalate to that value while in the other scenario you get to enjoy a fortune from the get-go.

>> No.9661316

>>9657455

as always, best responses get ignored.

>> No.9661329

I would literally stop caring about money ever if I got either. The million dollars a day gives more immediate effects, so yeah, gimme.

>> No.9662775

>>9642646
Million a day. Even if I would get the penny to my bank account and the value of that would double weekly it would still be too risky. In one year it would make any other money completely worthless because there would be too much of it. With a million a day I could live a carefree life without any stress

>> No.9662811

>>9642646


It doesn’t take logarithms to know you’ll be dead before you can make up the money via exponential increase

>> No.9662829
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9662829

>>9642715
>implying pennies would be paid in physical currency

So would the million dollars be paid in $1 bills or $1 coins? Because that's about as logical as your pennies being paid in physical pennies.

>> No.9662887
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9662887

>>9642646
This must be where blackholes come from.

>> No.9663017

>>9642646

would somebody post c code for this?

i know the equation, but too new to programming, and want to see the solution in code.

thx.

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9663115

>>9663017

nevermind:

[code]

#include <stdio.h>
int main (void) {


int countdays = 7;
double deposit = 0.01;
int totaldays= 0;
double balance = 0.01;
double inputMoney;

printf("Please enter the amount of money you want to accumulate:");
scanf("%lf", &inputMoney);

printf("\n");
printf("DAY\t\tDEPOSIT\t\tBALANCE\n");
printf("---\t\t-------\t\t-------\n");

while(balance <= inputMoney)
{

printf("%3d %9.2lf %10.2lf\n", countdays, deposit, balance);
countdays = countdays + 7;
totaldays++;
deposit = deposit + (deposit * 2);
balance += deposit;


}
printf("\n");
printf("It took %d weeks to accumulate at least $%.2lf\n", totaldays, inputMoney);

return 0;
}

[code/]

I ripped the code off from someone else and tailored the logic to work better.

I'm sure there is a more elegant way to do this with a for loop in c, but I don't know c so..

I hope I interpreted the question correctly.

>> No.9663872

>>9642657
Pretty much this.
Sure exponential growth is neat and all, but either why you'll have more money than you can spend

>> No.9664078

>>9660041
Are you pretending to be retarded or are you seriously a brainlet?

Inflation happens within one currency, not within "all money on the planet".
If you take the doubling coin, you'd destabilize a local monetary system really quickly.

Statisticians won't notice it, but the market competitors definitely will.

>> No.9664083

>>9663017


double CalculateNetWorthGettingMillionDollarsADay(uint64_t numDays)
{
return numDays * 1000000.0;
}

double CalculateNetWorthGettingWeeklyDoublingPenny(uint64_t numDays)
{
return pow(2.0, numDays / 7);
}

>> No.9664346

>>9661179
>prevents the heat death of the universe

>> No.9664388

>>9642646
>take doubling penny
>after a month I have so much it eclipses the global economy and ruins everything
>eventually the pennies will cover the earth
Are the pennies the brainlet answer?

>> No.9664392

>>9642646
Do I want to have more money than I can spend starting today, or more money than I an spend at some point in the future?

>> No.9664394

penny, I don't have to spend it all at once and end the world
I'll just have essentially infinite money saved

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9664395

>>9642707
>>9642715

I love you guys so much.

>> No.9664400

>>9642646
>a penny that doubled once a week?

Does just that penny double once a week? OP said nothing about the new pennies generated by the doubling doing anything.

If the penny doubles once a week, after one week I'd have two pennies, after two weeks I'd have three pennies.

If that;s the option, I'll take the 7 million a week over the new penny every week.

Although, there is probably some way to make money displaying your magical penny to the world on ppv or something.

>> No.9664403

>>9642822
Buddha please go.

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>>9642853
Not if the first one doubles, and only the first one doubles, at the rate specified by op.

>> No.9664412

>>9642940
See a speech pathologist about the lisp. You can easily afford one now that you have a magic penny.

>> No.9664416

>>9643085
>I would have counterfeit pennies at that point and they would be worthless.

Interesting point.

>>9644560
>They still have the worth of their base material

Interesting counter point, though you might wind up in jail and you magic pennies confiscated as evidence on the counterfeiting charge.

You'd be unique, though, in being charged with massive counterfeiting of pennies. I doubt anybody has ever bothered doing that.

>> No.9664427

>>9646162
Side question -- if you melted it down, would the copper continue to double every week? If so, it becomes pretty worthless -- I can't think of any real applications for copper that doubles in volume and mass every week. Other than destroying universes and shit.

>> No.9664431

I don't think OP means a literal penny, just a value of one cent in a bank account that doubles every week because the literal penny way isn't possible.

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9664441

Ok, brainos, I have a question -- assume that we are delaing with a penny that doubles, then the both pennies double, then all pennies double, etc. Assume further that when the mass of pennies reach planetary proportions and they are crushed into a molten sphere of copper, that the mass of copper keeps doubling.

So we have an increasingly huge mass of copper.

At what point, if any does it collapse into a black hole?

At what point, if any, does it reach a mass where the internal pressure drives the heat in the core to the point where copper starts fusing? If that happens, do we get the universe's first sun made of copper?

Side question: would that be cool as fuck?

>> No.9664443

>>9664431
Is OP your first genie?

>> No.9664449

>>9664441
What if the penny was made of ice? Can we finally achieve /b/'s long-held dream of a sun made out of ice?

>> No.9664460

>>9664441
I don't know the math but when the mass gets to the point that the copper subsequently fuses into iron it'll either supernova or become a black hole, depending on how much mass there is. Or supernova then become a black hole if it's really big. Our Sun isn't scheduled to supernova I don't think. It's not big enough, but copper is way more dense than hydrogen so that's a lot more mass.
Any astrophysicists wanna chime in?

>> No.9664555

>>9642646
You would create a black hole with a Schwarzschild radius larger than the observable universe within three and a half years.

>> No.9664669

>>9664555
How did you arrive to that conclusion?

>> No.9664717

>>9642646
A million dollars everyday. Guaranteed I won't make it past 2 weeks with that amount of cocaine, hookers and either an airplane or Ferrari. Fret not, it's how I wanted to go..

>> No.9666576

>>9642646
The 1 million dollars. What if I do not live over two+ weeks? Besides, at which point my wealth alone causes some sort of hyper inflation that could colapse the monetary system beyond my control?

>> No.9666598
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9666598

A million dollars every day, so i wouldn't fuck up the whole economy.

>> No.9666613

>>9657430
But the number of pennies can be expressed as a function f(x) where x is the weeks since the penny was received. And since computers are currently capable of numbers greater than the number of weeks remaining in the lifetime of the universe, computers will never actually have a problem storing the value of the penny.

>> No.9666636
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9666636

>Brainlet answer: "Dollars. To not waste time"
>Intelligent answer: "Pennies. To cause an apocalypse and destroy the earth and the universe"
Did I get it right?

>> No.9666649

>>9644303
>The children of the penny retain the same attributes as the original penny since they're a perfect recreation of the original. One of these attributes is the ability to double.
You're retarded, the "doubling" isn't an attribute, it's just a thing that happens to the penny as stated in the OP, it wasn't stated that it's an "autodoubling penny", it was stated that the penny is going to be doubled every week.
You might as well say that the position in space is an "attribute" and therefore all the new pennies would appear in the same xyz position as the older penny

>> No.9666654

Who let this thread pass 100 replies again?

>> No.9666703

>>9642646
Million dollars every day. Money is only so much useless paper after an economy and society collapses, and the second option might lead to that.

Also, what this anon said:
>>9642665

>> No.9666834

>>9666636
More like "dollars and ignore the implications" or "pennies and don't ignore the implications"

>> No.9667112

penny sucks because if you want to buy something with the money you have to spend your magical pennies, leading to massive inflation. If you could stop them from reproducing by melting them down, you could make money from selling the metal, but it's value would probably go down as well

>> No.9667409

>>9642893
>replacing mass with energy
Not solving the problem

>> No.9667428

>>9643102
I'm fucking dying, kek.

>> No.9667432

2 much currency robs the world of burancy
this shit is making me unbumfortable

>> No.9667433

>>9644303
If the children of the penny double, it means if you spend any of them you will make the person you paid "rich", but in reality the magical money "from nowhere" would become worthless due to ooverabundance. In case of the pennies, the copper and other elements constituting the alloy become worthless.

>> No.9667439

>>9667432
with the increasing mass we turn in2 a black hole, with this knowledge that i hold i bicken back bein bool, whilst you kebumk unbumfortable

>> No.9667441

>>9667439
Bigg's Hoe's on

>> No.9667459
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Naruto pulls up his pants, he smiles at his LMS jutsu

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>>9667459
you put the pennies under a sled and you wait

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Comment needed, comment implied

>> No.9667498

>>9661194
>If every penny doubles, then you are going to crash the economy and then spawn a black hole.
/sci/

>> No.9667994

>>9667409
Because 2^((today's date - date I got penny)/7) uses a lot of energy.

>> No.9668754

>>9642646
Million a day. The exponential growth of wealth would crash through economy.

>> No.9670049

>>9642646
tfw your only getting 3 pennies a week

>> No.9670145

>>9656152
When are you gonna watch me fuck her?