ITT: ancient megalith archeology

[Anonymous No.9640117]

what's the /sci/entific explanation for this?

also why delete previous thread? Archeology is a fascinating field that's definitely /sci/ related. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.9640129]

>>9640117
What do you mean what's the explanation? Religious belief can make humans do crazy things, like build stone structures over the course of millennia.

[Anonymous No.9640134]

>>9640129
specifically, how did multiple cultures separated by continents all converge on the same stone masonry technology, then all loose that technology. And why can't we replicate it today, despite it being a convergent technology?

[Anonymous No.9640157]

>>9640134
>how did multiple cultures separated by continents all converge on the same stone masonry technology, then
Because masonry is a little bit more than stacking rocks in a neat way. It's not a very big coincidence. If an alien civilization ten gorrillion light years away has a system of mathematics and some engineering practices, they likely have converged on some of the same ideas of us.
They lost the technology because of wars, famine, invasion, etc etc. Take a course on ancient history. We can replicate them today. Hard=/=impossible.

[Anonymous No.9640182]

>>9640117
>>9640134
Fuck off with your god damn fucking >>>/x/ bullshit threads you stupid fucking cock sucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.9640208]

>>9640134
You're so fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.9640218]

>>9640117
The world has lots of rocks. They are handy for making structures. Stacking big ones makes a more stable structure, important both when you are building and when time s passing and some structures get demolished by events and others last.

Thread wll get deleted when it turns into an /x/ or /pol/ shitfest.

[Anonymous No.9640223]

Who built the pyramids? Cause we all know it wasn't niggers.

[Anonymous No.9640231]

>>9640223
yes it was
they were kangz

[Anonymous No.9640236]

>>9640218
>Thread wll get deleted when it turns into an /x/ or /pol/ shitfest.

Why not just delete offending posts?
Deleting the entire thread seems like it can be abused. Someone could have any thread they disliked just by making a few /x/-teir comments.

[Anonymous No.9640238]

>>9640157
Actually some of these structures have features we cannot replicate today in the way they were made without any visible tooling marks like many of these have.

[Anonymous No.9640250]

>>9640238
Even so, that doesn't prove humans didn't build them. The question becomes "what technology did they have access to that we do not know they knew about?"

[Anonymous No.9640268]

>>9640250
I totally agree, I just dislike the discussion being shut down on both sides by ancient alien types posting retarded shit and smug scientific types asserting this has all been solved even though there are many examples where it very clearly has not.

[Anonymous No.9640273]

This may seem like a stupid question but why don't we use high precision mortarless bricks in todays construction, aside from absurd costs? Judging by how long these structures last they must be just as strong or stronger than concrete. What's the compression strength of solid stone vs concrete?

>>9640250
>that doesn't prove humans didn't build them.
Back the fuck up there /x/-file. Mods have itchy ban fingers today. ixnay on the alienyay

[Anonymous No.9640276]

>>9640236
Don't ask me, I'm not a mod. Though I'd suspect at some point posting x-like threads begins to look like you are doing it a-purpose.

[Anonymous No.9640280]

>>9640273
No one gives a shit about long lifespans of buildings anymore. It's all about smashing up a glass and steel monstrosity as fast as possible.

[Anonymous No.9640282]

>>9640117
>also why delete previous thread?


This happens:

>>9640134
>>9640182
>>9640223
>>9640231
>>9640238
>>9640268

[Anonymous No.9640288]

>>9640273
Why should I go to /x/? They believe aliens built all that shit, not me.

[Anonymous No.9640309]

>>9640282
Jesus Christ fuck you. When I post in these threads It's because I want to know HOW some of these things were done. I get a few obnoxious retards like yourself replying with a picture of a brown man with a brass saw to tell me that everything has been solved yet will not come to any fair debate on some of these more complex things that were done at these places. I just get called an /x/ tinfoiler who believes in ayy lmaos, but all I want is some believeable answers which none of you fuckers can seem to supply.

[Anonymous No.9640315]

>>9640309
We WILL NEVER understand the precise method the used because we cannot go back in time and watch them do it. For now, a bunch of brown short people with copper and brass tools working over the course of generations is good approximation of what happening. What actually is your question?

[Anonymous No.9640320]

>>9640117
nobody with a stem degree does archaeology.
This question also is much more likely to illicit explanations based off of the supernatural or conspiracy memes ratger than actual science or math.

[Anonymous No.9640339]

>>9640320
>archaeology isn't science

[Anonymous No.9640353]

>>9640339
t. Archaeologist

[Anonymous No.9640358]

Science studies what is. And thus, would analyse the structure, designs...
Engineering creates what has never been. So problem solving to extreme in a way.
How about we get some problem solvers here come up with designs on building methods and tools that can explain the way it might have been built, rather then dump on the board with raw comments

[Anonymous No.9640771]

>>9640273
It's true that these structures are beautiful pieces of architecture and showcase superb craftsmanship. We are lucky that they were so well made so we can appreciate them today

Another way to look at them is that they were massively overengineered due to them not having access to our engineering tools, and that their culture would have been better served by more economical/cheaper buildings

[Anonymous No.9640913]

>>9640134
Yeah the fun thing is that we have those stones right there infront of us ready to be examined in all sorts of modern scientific ways but yet we still cant solve that mysterious riddle.

>>9640157
>wars, famine, invasion, etc etc.
But wars, famine, invasion, etc etc. don't appear worldwide at the same time viping out the entire knowledge in whole and for all times.

>>9640273
>why don't we use high precision mortarless bricks in todays construction
Because unlike that ancient culture, we have no idea how to soften and fit-shape hard stone.

>>9640309
You won't find the answer as long as you act like a bee trapped behind the half open window. Instead trying to go straight through the glas over and over until death, just try to circumvent it. Think around the corner, think unconventionally and you may find the solution.

[Anonymous No.9640935]

>>9640771
>Because unlike that ancient culture, we have no idea how to soften and fit-shape hard stone.


I have a theory. That these huge stones were not carried (by aliens or whatever).

These huge stones were made as today's Concrete / Mortar/ Cement Paste.

The fluid cement paste were molded in place. Hardened over time.

Romans used the same technique 2000 years ago.
Stone Age's Stonehenge were build in the same way, as Cement paste hardened into a Rock.

Cement paste is much easier to carry than Huge Rocks. And easier to work with.

That's how Egyptian made that Huge stones. With a type of fluid cement paste.

[Anonymous No.9640959]

>>9640935
That doesn't make sense when looking at those structures. If there'd been some fluid cement paste method used than why that unstandardised shapes. The romans used concrete but their stones were all standardised in manufacture to make the work as cost-/time-efficient as possible.
Also no impression marks of casting shells

[Anonymous No.9640986]

>>9640959
>Also no impression marks of casting shells
Actually the Inca, Aztec and Mayan complex carvings shapes can only be explained by casting shells.

When solid these rocks are too hard for chisels or any modern tool to carve. However these shapes are easily made today with concrete.

The guy in video explain it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJO8mD289hk

It was like working in Clay then hardened place.
That's eliminate completely the necessity of carrying immensely huge and heavy rocks.

And this is a much more logical explanation all shitty weird conspiracy bullshit theories about Alien High Tech.

[Anonymous No.9640989]

>>9640959
These sculptures in these Aztec Pyramid Walls were made with Concrete

or other Moldable ceramic paste solidified into a Rock

These rocks are too hard to be carved by chisels.

These were molded

[Anonymous No.9641001]

>>9640959
And sorry to say but Aliens don't built the Pyramids. Humans did.

Stonehenge was made by Anglos using the same method.

They put the Concrete paste inside casting shells. They shored it and waited until it solidified.

Stonehenge was built just like our modern Concrete buildings.

Just like many huge constructions in Antiquity.

[Anonymous No.9641008]

>>9640236
SO MUCH THIS

Why the FUCK does 4chan deletion work this way? Entire threads get nuked to hell because of one post. It's actually and unironically retarded.

[Anonymous No.9641031]

>>9640117
Rocks are part of the lithosphere

[Anonymous No.9641033]

>>9641001
stonehenge is a fake monument built by the british empire to create a cult of mysticism and boost tourism. It also allowed to study behaviour. Look up it says gullible.

[Anonymous No.9641042]

>>9640989
That looks like sand stone to me. Sand stone is way less hard to work with than granite or basalt like here >>9640273 or here >>9640117. You can use simple saws hammers and chisels to shape it.

>>9641001
Stonehenge has nothing to do with the precataclysmic megalith culture. It has been build at least six thousant years after the disappearence of the ancient culture from Peru and Egypt. Those boulders were carved out in a quarry that has already been identified some few hundred miles away. The technique that has been used to build Stonehenge is no big mystery and rather simple. Stonehenge itself was a simple calender used for agricultural needs some four thousant years ago.

[Anonymous No.9641048]

Gee what's with people tying sharp rocks to sticks and killing animals with them all across multiple continents.
No cultural exchange?
Must be aliens right?????

[Anonymous No.9641081]

>>9641042
>You can use simple saws hammers and chisels to shape it.
NO YOU CAN'T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6tOp8KLZnQ

It's impossible cut these stones with chisels. And very hard to do even with modern Power tools.

This plus the fact that Metal tools were not found nearby any of these megaliths.

Implying that they made it before metal tools were available.

But it turns out easily possible with Concrete.

[Anonymous No.9641131]

>>9641081
>Watch this video which proves my point.
>Wow some randumb guy talking over a bunch of pictures.
WTF I hate stone obelisks now.

The people back then made them, we know they made them because we can see them today. You can't just say it's magic or aliens because you yourself don't know how to make the same thing. So what if they used tools? Maybe the tools were ropes soaked in water and hard rock dust. That gives a similar effect to saws. Start with what you could conceive of them actually using and save the >>>/x/ shit for where it belongs.

[Anonymous No.9641225]

>>9641033
14th century depiction of a giant helping Merlin build stonehenge

[Anonymous No.9641248]

>>9641225
Seems legit.

[Anonymous No.9641752]

>>9641131
The thing is for a lot of this shit there is simply no way to conceivably do it. Take my pic related, it's a bit shit but there are better quality ones of it. How the fuck is this cut possible with any tool known to man short of a perfectly calibrated laser cutter/pressure cutter. But even then significant tool marks would be left, but there is nothing. The almost exact size cutout lies right below this particular picture. If a supposed jungle savage can figure this shit out, what the fuck are we missing?

[Anonymous No.9642531]

>>9640282
/x/ and /pol/ go together like bread and butter.

[Anonymous No.9642931]

>>9640117

[Anonymous No.9643107]

>>9640134
>can't we replicate it today
yes we could if we needed to, stop this meme.
They lost it because of wars, etc, just like the roman empire fall with all its engeneering culture. Come on, inca temples are 500 years old, right? Does that seem so old to you?

[Anonymous No.9643118]

>>9640273
>absurd costs
you replyed to yourself

[Anonymous No.9643256]

>>9640935
The issue is that lot of the stones which show traces of mechanical engineering are granite which is hardness 7/10. 10 is diamond. You would need diamond saw/drill to cut through them in such precise manner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmdqlQgyJfw
Of course there is always lot of speculation one way or another but I would love to see a scientific community to take a proper look as there is too many of these coincidences all around the world. Best examples in the video are here and there so please watch it fully and don't get offended by some of his remarks. The best evidence is still right in front of your eyes and the markings and the artifacts itself don't lie no matter what someone's opinion is.

[Anonymous No.9643300]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPn0NsZDtkk

Ancient indian temple, literally built with giant lathes. This isnt even disputed, and yet, no one knows why ancient people have giant lathes.

[Anonymous No.9643329]

>>9643300
>no one knows why ancient people have giant lathes.

They were, apparently, useful for making a temple.

[Anonymous No.9643430]

>>9640134
I'm honestly having a hard time believing someone can be this retarded

[Anonymous No.9643455]

>>9640250
>that doesn't prove humans didn't build them

You're the first person int eh discussion to even bring that up.

This board is so close minded that it can't even discuss an interesting topic without putting conspiracy theories into the OP's mouth. It seems like /sci/ has a deep obsession with /x/ but is in denial about it.

[Anonymous No.9643462]

>>9640986
>Alien High Tech.
>Fucking rocks

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.9643486]

>>9640986
>>9640989
this is the most likely explanation
humans were already masters of baking clay tablets and pottery way back so its not far fetched to assume they knew how to mold things larger than small pottery. learning to extract bronze then iron was the next logical step.
their specific mixture of clay/cement was probably lost after a collapse, just like roman cement. then the subsequent settlers that came along just built on top, like how major cities of today were founded on top older ones.

[Anonymous No.9643717]

>>9642931
A city built by whites ruined by blacks. So sad.

[Anonymous No.9643759]

>>9640117
ancient engineers

[Anonymous No.9643772]

Stacking rocks limits ones design parameters.

[Anonymous No.9644282]

>>9643462
Bro if I got my hands on alien super tech, the first thing I would do is makie a fuckhueg stacks of rocks to show the world how big my pee pee is.

[Anonymous No.9644452]

>>9640273
We could resume hauling huge chunks of stone to construction sites and then employ artisans to work on laboriously grinding and fitting them individually to construct a building that can last centuries but won't be easily modifiable (Laying new pipes and cables? Forget it.) and will need tearing down anyway after a few decades because developers had something else in mind for that piece of land...

Or we could continue using mass-produced bricks and beams that produce exactly the kind of buildings that we want.

[Anonymous No.9644915]

bump

[Anonymous No.9644991]

>>9640117
>Archeology is a fascinating field that's definitely /sci/ related
I think this is actually more >>>/his/ related

[Anonymous No.9645038]

>>9644991
But we are discussing the technology behind it.
Not only history.

[Anonymous No.9645070]

>>9645038
This.

If they could make the blocks so perfect its airtight, they could use this tech to build bases on mars out of locally sourced stones.

[Anonymous No.9645077]

>>9643717
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.9645403]

>>9644915
I don't think it was the aliens. It was the aliens.

[Anonymous No.9645483]

>>9643772
Unless rocks are what you got. Then stacking them actually gives you more options.

[Anonymous No.9645485]

>>9645070
>If they could make the blocks so perfect its airtight, they could...

If the Trojan Horse had foaled, horses today would cost much less to feed.

[Anonymous No.9645510]

>>9645070
>they could use this tech to build bases on mars out of locally sourced stones.
There's way more efficient ways of building than constructing everything out of giant boulders.

[Anonymous No.9645567]

>>9645510
Even when shipping building materials across the solar system?

[Anonymous No.9645636]

>>9645403 >>9644915
>I don't think it was the aliens. It was the aliens.

[Anonymous No.9647514]

>>9641248
Yo dawgs I heard you use lances to pierce your dragon so I used a lance that I used to pierce my dragon to pierce your dragon

[Anonymous No.9647533]

>>9640273
I used to be a mason, the reason is because loose stacking only works in very specific climates. Once you get on soft ground, or somewhere with winter it falls to shit after about 2 or 3 years. I would do loose stacked retaining walls for things like gardens, or maybe a patio accent, but I would never do that for something that actually needs to remain structural. Its also basically impossible to loose stack commercially available brick and have it be waterproof and insulated up to code. Even though brick&mortar will eventually crack as a result of the ground shifting underneath it, it at least remains held together.

Pic related is a pretty good example, even though Im pretty sure its falling apart because of all the joined, continuous seams on the bottom 3 or 4 layers right in the middle, eventually the right side of that wall would keep pulling away and collapse outwards.

[Anonymous No.9648743]

>>9641131
>concrete is magic or alien technology

[Anonymous No.9649221]

>using vibration, frequency, and harmonics
see video for demonstration, warning, rest of the video seems ..... weird
https://youtu.be/BsqOLCXYznE?t=110

This actually seems plausible. Basically they invented vibrating saws using sound waves from an instrument to vibrate water and sand made of the same material they were cutting.
If you're cutting granite use granite sand. Cutting basalt use basalt sand. Cutting dolomite use dolomite sand.
Using this method it would have been very easy to make VERY precise cuts with primitive tools.

As for how to move the stones. Well, just see next video below.
https://youtu.be/E5pZ7uR6v8c?t=90
It would seem using the method in the video above, the larger your quarry block, the faster you could move it, if you're constantly rotating the stone from corner to corner. This would explain why they used such large stones. Further in the video he shows how to raise the large stones using a system of counterweights which looks like it could have been the inspiration for the trebuchet.

The only mystery is, what purpose do the nubs on the bottom of the blocks serve as seen in >>9640273 >>9640117 and pic related.

[Anonymous No.9649263]

>>9643430
That's a creative way of expressing your lack of argument

[Anonymous No.9649313]

>>9643107
weee weoere enegeneeeeres aaaaaand sheeeeeeeeit

[Anonymous No.9649342]

>>9648743
>Concrete that sets to become indistinguishable from natural rock isn't alien technology.

>>9641752
>How the fuck is this cut possible with any tool known to man short of a perfectly calibrated laser cutter/pressure cutter.

Step 1 drill holes
Step 2 feed abrasive wire/rope/chain through hole.
Step 3 saw
Step 4 repeat until block emerges

[Anonymous No.9649464]

>>9640117
Most of this shit is bs, Kailasa temple in ellora, inda actually can not be built with modern tech. I'm sure there are others that aren't bs, that is one I'm sure of.

[Anonymous No.9650102]

>>9640117
Mainstream archeology says nothing's older than 4,000bc or so, and that early Egyptians/Incans/etc created everything at their sites with primitive tools and a lot of man power.
But c'mon, these sites are amazingly accurate and mathematically pure. And huge. And there's no way the Pyramids were built in only 30 years as a burial tomb. You think that kind of craftsmanship was rushed like that? The design even was so pure, riddled with ratios of pi, the golden mean, the Earth and Moon diameters, etc. It's all a little much for just a burial site.
But get this- there's an underground labyrinth under the Pyramids. Legends dating back to Heroditus say it was a cache of worldly knowledge and treasures, not unlike what the Vatican stores today, and modern testing maps out just such an underground structure with multiple levels.
But if you also look at the Pyramids, nothing else in Egypt matches the craftsmanship. Everything newer is much smaller blocks, different surface finishes, and despite being newer the stones don't for together as nicely, just meaning different eras built different buildings on the same site. But nothing matches the Pyramids. I firmly believe the Egyptians found them and settled there, eventually claiming then as their own, and later (as evidenced in most cases) simply carved out areas for royal burial. Of course they built their own too, but looking at what's in the truelly ancientest areas, again the surface finish is shit compared to the original structure.

Dead honest, as far as some pretty weird research goes (and yeah, fuck the ayy lmaos and giants, etc), I'm pretty convinced humanity existed before the great flood every ancient civilization has a story about. That flood happened 12,000 years or so ago according to modern archaeologist.
That kind of also explains those under water megalith cities they've found off India and Japan too.

[Anonymous No.9650105]

>>9650102
And just to throw in an extra weird factor, the pyramids line up with Ankor Wat, Easter island, the Nazca lines, Machu Picchu, and a bunch of other sites we have no clue who or how they built that I'm forgetting right now. Go ahead and look it up on Google Earth. It's a near perfect circle that is basically a tilted equator, with it's North Pole being somewhat close to magnetic north (which wobbles).
The Pyramids are also directly between the Vatican and Mecca.
Both Napoleon and Hitler visited first the Vatican, and then straight to the Pyramids.
I'm convinced the Pyramids were a cache of human knowledge at the time, built before the impending doomsday or wtvr. Not unlike what were building now with the seed storage in Scandinavia, or the Memory of Mankind project in Austria.

So yeah, this all sounds more fit for /x/, but if you've got a better scientific explanation than pre-prehistoric civilizations, well the Earth has been all ears for some time now. Teams of slaves or artisans in a rush job with no prior practice could not build something so magnificantly pure, exact, and colossal that still stands millennia later.

[Anonymous No.9650123]

>>9649342
Yeah just let me bust out my Craftsman 3000 with 3" masonry bits.
Either way, I'm not seeing how rope cuts a square cutout out of a wall.

[Anonymous No.9650191]

>>9640117
Africa is not a country, OP

[Anonymous No.9650209]

>>9641001
>And sorry to say but Aliens don't built the Pyramids. Humans did.

And this is how they did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c

[Anonymous No.9651148]

>>9650209
And this is how they quarried the stones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsqOLCXYznE

Video is guy cutting circular hole with a sonic drill. But why couldn't you cut a square "brick" shaped hole? They probably used giant tuning forks. Fast, precise cuts, primitive tech only, little effort expended to cut the blocks.

[Anonymous No.9651150]

What about the steel tower in India that the ayys gave us?

[Anonymous No.9651154]

>>9650209
It's not far fetched, considering the amazing projects the Romans and Greeks did during wartime like the siege of Tyre where they simply built a land bridge to a stronghold island.
But as inventive as this guy is, he doesn't offer a solution for lateral movement once the block is raised.

[Anonymous No.9651159]

>>9651150
Indians, Proto-Europeans, Iranians, or Aryans forged it. Not aliens.

[Anonymous No.9651172]

>>9651154
Ever see a washing machine move itself when it's resonating? Same deal.

They pump sound waves into the stone at a resonating frequency, create a standing wave under the stone which makes it easy to move the stone laterally.

[Anonymous No.9651244]

>>9651172
On what tho? The scaffolding required to hold multi-ton blocks is mind boggling.

[Anonymous No.9651308]

>>9640117
The lever, the pulley, the wedge and the inclined plane.

[Anonymous No.9652147]

>stonework that can't be made by modern man!!!!

[Anonymous No.9652178]

>>9651244
on top of other giant blocks. they might have used the method demonstrated in >>9650209 to lay the foundation, use vibrations to move the stone laterally ontop of this foundation into position.

Alternatively, they could create a temporary long stone road from quarry to build site using the very blocks they intended to use to build with. Then vibrate the rocks ontop the stone road to the build site and once all the stones they needed were in place they'd lift the 1st stone in the road (by quarry) and move that down the road to the build site, then the 2nd, and so on and so on.

[Anonymous No.9652184]

>>9651244
on top of other giant blocks. they might have used the method demonstrated in >>9650209 to lay the foundation, use vibrations to move the stone laterally ontop of this foundation into position.

[Anonymous No.9652186]

>>9652147
Yes because modern men use concrete/mortar.
Just like the ancients used concrete/mortar too.

Ayy lmaos did't build the Pyramids.
Humans built it. Case Closed

[Anonymous No.9652751]

>>9643256
Google "saw hard rock sand."

[Anonymous No.9652760]

>>9640134
Doesn't the picture you posted show different styles of masonry? They all look quite different to me.
Also it's "lose", not "loose."

[Anonymous No.9652769]

>>9647533
Solid explanation

[Anonymous No.9652770]

>>9650105
>And just to throw in an extra weird factor, the pyramids line up with Ankor Wat, Easter island, the Nazca lines, Machu Picchu, and a bunch of other site

I'm not sure we have no idea who or how for Angkor Watt, the Pyramids, Machu Pichu...

But yeah, those sites lie pretty much along a great circle. So what? Look at all the other sites that don't. The world is literally dotted with ancient sites of this and that. Some of them will lie along a line, and if you select only the ones that lie on that line it looks interesting and mysterious.

[Anonymous No.9652797]

>>9652770
This.

These "lining up" theories don't explain why many other megaliths don't line up.

For example Machu Picchu (n Peru, South America) lies outside that "alignment circle".

Stonehenge in England also don't align.

The reason that Megaliths seems to be aligned is same latitude because the Human populations in Ancient times preferred to live in hotter climates without Winter.

[Anonymous No.9652811]

>>9652770
Pyramids, Vatican, India, Mexico & Angkor Watt shares similar latitudes because ancient people preferred such climate.

Machu Picchu in South America don't line up.
Stonehenge in England also don't line up in the same latitude.

[Anonymous No.9653121]

you have to be a fool to think mountain dwelling indians wearing cloth on their dicks carved pic

[Anonymous No.9653802]

>>9640134
the same fucking way humans now are LOSING the ability to spell/have a grasp on language.

mongoloid

[Anonymous No.9653820]

>>9653121
>am smarter because wearing a suit
(You)

[Anonymous No.9653890]

>OP ask a question
>he never mentions gods nor aliens
>hurrrr you are stupid you really believe in gods hurrr aliens were I am so smart
Why you guys are so defensive about this topic? The same thing happened in the last thread. Are you so mad about not being able to explain this shit?

[Anonymous No.9653900]

>>9640986
It's make sense in the pic that you showed. But doesnt make sense when its about non uniform rocks just as >>9640959 said. Also:

I dont find better explanation ≠ This is the explanation

[Anonymous No.9653932]

>>9652811
>>9652797

Don't confuse "great circle" with "latitude." The Equator is the only place latitude forms a great circle.

But yes, cherry-picking those that happen to align in some way while ignoring those that do not it foolishness.

[Anonymous No.9653935]

>>9653121
What do you wear to cover your dick, oh wise one?

[Anonymous No.9653940]

The number of people in this thread who don't think concrete can be distinguished from stone is surprising.

[Anonymous No.9654142]

>>9653935

[Anonymous No.9654180]

>>9653121
>you have to be a fool to think the most successful and intelligent species we've ever witnessed, which is known primarily for its incredible feats of engineering, managed to carve a rock

[Anonymous No.9656237]

>8 foot in diameter
>16 tons
>carved out of granoduirite

never mind that these serve no obvious purpose, how were they even made? It's almost as if they were made just to prove that they could.

[Anonymous No.9656253]

>japan
a country
>india
a country
>peru
a country
>africa, which shows the pyramids created by non-subsharan africans
all of africa, a continent.

[Anonymous No.9656277]

>>9653935

[Anonymous No.9656441]

>>9656237
>nobody knows why they were made
bitches love spheres
I'm-a carve that bitch a sphere.

[Anonymous No.9656656]

Who deleted all the lovely pictures of stone spheres?

[Anonymous No.9656675]

>>9650102
i would guess the king that was alive when the best pyramid was completed just had all of the skilled laborers and engineers sacrificed with him when he died so they could build him another one in the afterlife, so much of knowledge was lost every time a pharaoh died

[Anonymous No.9656856]

>>9656656
Now they back.

[Anonymous No.9656896]

>>9653121
Amerindians had a higher development rate than europeans. Therefore Amerindians have more civilization potential than europeans.

How is this hard to get?

[Anonymous No.9657423]

>>9640134
>And why can't we replicate it today,
We can

[Anonymous No.9657762]

>>9643107
Well in due fairness much of Roman tech knowledge survives because of books.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_architectura

[Anonymous No.9657870]

>>9657423
This. We can move rocks, cut rocks, carve rocks, polish rocks, with an ease that the ancients would marvel over.

We don't build megalithic structures much any more. Our supply of megalomaniac absolute monarchs that need to keep their razors sharp has declined, and when we DO build big structures, that in fact rival or often dwarf what they built, we have better ways to do that now than stacking rocks.

[Anonymous No.9658028]

>>9657870
For the most part sure there are possible ways it could have been done (If you can reeeeally stretch your imagination), but as has been said many times throughout these threads, there are more than a few examples where we actually cannot do what was done, let alone without any identifiable tooling marks as is on many of these artifacts. I'm not saying that ayy lmaos built this shit but there is certainly some serious lost knowledge and if we cannot replicate what a bunch of illiterate savages in loincloths supposedly did with saws and plumb bobs then there are some hard questions to be asked and brushing anyone who asks off as /x/ is very narrow minded.

[Anonymous No.9658399]

>>9640134
If convergent evolution can exist, it's not a surprise that convergent technological development exists also.

>>9640273
Aside from the high cost, using only high precision mortarless bricks for construction would limit the kind of structures that you can build.

>>9640986
>When solid these rocks are too hard for chisels or any modern tool to carve.

The rocks are hard but they're brittle. As a proof of concept, you chip away at these stones with a regular nail and hammer.

[Anonymous No.9659539]

>>9640315
Fine cut granite using copper...

[Anonymous No.9659553]

>>9640273
Because it stagnates wealth by insuring buildings fall over after not long. I'm from the UK and all the new builds are visual abominations but loaaads of only 5 yrs old buildings are falling apart. Walls and windows seperating from exterior etc. It's a bad joke. But it means you can't preserve wealth through generations as easily, it's good for the economy (lol, mortgages, job creation, building industry)
Get back to work goy

[Anonymous No.9659558]

>>9657870
>Our supply of megalomaniac absolute monarchs that need to keep their razors sharp has declined,
Except Trump who wanna build a huge wall.

[Tinfoil hat man No.9659608]

>>9659558
>implying trump is for real and is not havin a barmy 24/7

[Anonymous No.9659626]

>>9640134

[Anonymous No.9659642]

>>9640134
>And why can't we replicate it today, despite it being a convergent technology?
Because building with modern Steel is Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger.

https://youtu.be/x84m3YyO2oU

[Anonymous No.9659655]

>>9640117
They were high tech civilizations that ended up not being advanced anymore.
They ended up, in order, Kawaii, poo-in-loo, nigger cases and ran over by Rally cars.

The lesson is, if you want your civilization to survive, just use bricks.

[Anonymous No.9659759]

>>9641001
It was definitely not made by anlgos.
The angles didn't arrive until around 500ad.
It was made some early bronze age pre Celtic culture.

[Anonymous No.9659785]

>>9640117
>Prove me wrong.

Not knowing the answer doesn't proves shit anon.
You'd make a bad scientist.


However, I personal believe (without evidence making it a hypotheses not a theory) that human civilization is thousands if not tens of thousands of years older than we have evidence for. There even could have been more than 1 world religion in that time span.

but again, I don't know therefore aliens is the typical conclusion from brainlet retards who start a conversation with "Prove me wrong"

[Anonymous No.9659806]

>>9650102
>nothing older than 4,000 years old
That's not right.
There are similar dolmens all over europe older than Stonehenge.
Yes the pyramids were massive scale compared to this but it shows with enough manpower, you can build large structures. I cbf finding it but i found very plausible explanations for the pyramids.
I think you're under estimating ancient civilizations. Much of their written works were likely lots and we're relying on accounts from other ancient cultures also.

[Anonymous No.9660275]

>>9649221
you don't have to lift it to put the pebble underneath, the pivot point is built in

[Anonymous No.9660564]

>>9647533
I read somewhere that they also used tar and bricks, instead of cement and bricks. Would that change anything?

[Anonymous No.9660579]

>>9649221
the nubs might be runners and gates that were purposefully worn down after being cast??

[Anonymous No.9660591]

>>9640309
>believes in retarded /x/ tier tinfoil ayy lmao bullshit
>I JUST WANT REASONABLE ANSWERS
Clearly you don't and you're either misrepresenting yourself as a retard on a lark, or you're actually just stupid. Either way stop making threads.

[Anonymous No.9660594]

>>9658028
>than a few examples where we actually cannot do what was done, let alone without any identifiable tooling marks as is on many of these artifacts

Could you name 5 works that we couldnt reproduce exactly as is today?

[Anonymous No.9660595]

>>9640117
They are actually monoliths. They actually sculpt those gaps so as look as if they were separate stones fitting each other

[Anonymous No.9660600]

>>9658028
Yes, t is said constantly in this thread and in similar threads on /x/, and in the comment son YouTube "Muh Aliums" vids.

It is nonsense, though.

We don't build much with giant carved rocks, not because we can't figure out how, but because we have better options. In most instances, we know what they did. In some instances we don't know which exact technique(s) they used.

That is a far cry from "We can't figure out how to cut rocks precisely and stack them."

[Anonymous No.9660603]

>>9659558
Wall doesn't sharpen razors.

[Anonymous No.9660604]

Fun Fact! There is a White Supremacists book that can be summed up as a big bloated blowjob to insecure Whites called "March of the Titans". According to the book, it states that Mesopotamia, Egypt and the Indus River Valley Civilization were exclusively "proto-Nordic" and White. This is literally the White Supremacists "We Waz Kangz" shit. This is what you believe in /Pol/, this is how fucking stupid you people are.

[Anonymous No.9661802]

>>9640134
We can replicate it.
But there's no reason to do so unless it's to make a theme park

[Anonymous No.9662040]

>>9640182
Ease up. He asks a valid question. He does not claim there are any supernatural causes.

>>9640117
>what's the /sci/entific explanation for this?
What you are looking for is "Zeitgeist" which has been with us since dawn of history.

Nobody knows why but the pattern is well known and has repeated itself numerous times.

[Anonymous No.9662570]

>>9640218
>The world has lots of rocks.
Sure. And the rocks have been there since before humanity. And that is the point of this discussion.

And humanity had also been around for a long long time, even had the time to spread across all continents but Antarctica without starting using stones for anything large scale.

An then, suddenly, at roughly the same point in time, humanity across the world started megalithic cultures, not knowing about each other. That is the strange thing, which is part of the Zeitgeist phenomenon. It is there. Nobody knows why. And nobody thinks it is supernatural either. We just do not know.