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SpaceX is targeting Monday, April 2 for an instantaneous launch of its fourteenth Commercial Resupply Services mission (CRS-14) at 4:30 p.m. EDT, or 20:30 UTC, from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida.

This launch will feature a used Block 4 booster. It previously flew on CRS-12. The Dragon is also used, having flown on CRS-8. The first stage will NOT be recovered.

Press kit: http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/crs-14presskit2018.pdf
Payload overview: https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/spacex_crs-14_mision_overview_high_res.pdf
Webcast: http://www.spacex.com/webcast
NASA TV: https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public
Weather forecast: http://www.patrick.af.mil/Portals/14/documents/Weather/Launch%20Info/L-1%20Forecast%202%20April%20Launch.pdf?ver=2018-04-01-133225-547 (80% GO)


>seven new ways to grow plants in space are onboard, it's pretty neat

>> No.9637482
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9637482

>Quick update from the previous F9 mission
even though the fairing parafoil failed, it appears that Mr Steven (fairing catching boat) recovered an intact half of the fairing.

>Elon news
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/980518020358463489
>"important news in a few hours"
It's April 1st do don't get your hopes up

>> No.9637582

Pre-launch conference is starting. I'll post updates

>20% chance of weather violation for launch; 77°F
>this dragon has additional water sealing, so it had less parts replaced during refurbishment
>Dragon 1 is qualified for max of 3 flights per vehicle

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go for good launch

>> No.9637597

>>9637582
>looking for additional opportunities for 1-year crew members
>Block 5 is expected to be reused for 10+ flights
>this particular mission will be expended, as it will be used to fly a trajectory towards the "limits" of the F9 capability for data collection

>> No.9637603

>>9637597
>no restriction on 2nd stage video stream

and that wraps up the Q&A

>> No.9637653

Will this be the block 5 falcon 9?

>> No.9637659

WHEREVER I GO I MUST ALSO SHITPOST IN SPACEX THREAD

>> No.9637661

>>9637653
Block 5 will fly first for the Bangabandhu-1 mission on the 24th. As stated in the OP:
>"This (CRS-14) launch will feature a used Block 4 booster. It previously flew on CRS-12. The Dragon is also used, having flown on CRS-8. The first stage will NOT be recovered."

>> No.9637668

>>9637661
Have they said if they are just going to be using block 5s from that launch onward? Would be cool if they work as promised and they chuck them back up after a quick inspection.

>> No.9637677

>>9637668
Iridium-6, TESS, and the in-flight abort test will all use block 4. Plus one more I believe.

After that it's all block 5, baby

>> No.9637729

>>9637597
>>looking for additional opportunities for 1-year crew members
What does this mean?

>> No.9637733

>>9637729
ISS astronauts who will stay onboard for an entire year

>> No.9637745

Friendly reminder that "space" is fake and the earth is flat.

>> No.9637756

>>9637745
(you)

>> No.9637784
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>>9637745
Friendly reminder that the "Earth" is fake and space is stacked.

>> No.9637792
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9637792

EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE OF SPACEX LANDING ON MARS

>> No.9637798

>>9637784

That's one of NDT's theories and I agree with it.

>> No.9638117

>>9637745

We are on a plane. Kurt Cobain, Frank Sinatra and Pewdiepie agree.

>> No.9638725

17 hours to go

>> No.9638760

This is Flight (Apparently names are disabled for the duration of the april fools event) Thank you for continued Space-X coverage. It's one thread type I intentionally avoided making, feeling it more fitting to stick with NASA manned spaceflight specifically, and to leave the Space-X coverage to those interested parties.

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>>9637482
Per elon, the fairing landed fine!

>> No.9638988

>>9638943
Oh nice they snagged half of it. Next tine theyll have solved the problem and will have the whole thing. Shits incredible man.

>> No.9639028

>>9638988
the question remains how they will recover both halves with only one Mr Steven. Two separate smaller nets? Delay one fairing and catch the other, then quickly get the caught half off of the net to make room for the other one? Or, just build another Mr Steven?

>> No.9639101

>>9639028
>Or, just build another Mr Steven?
This.

Fairings cost something like 3mil, so if they catch a few halves they can fund another Mr Steven.

>> No.9639108

>>9639101
cadence will be an issue. Boats can only go so fast, and if SpaceX is launching three times a week that means a quick turnaround with getting the fairings to shore.

>> No.9639132

>>9639108
The more they recover the more boats they can build.

>> No.9639160

>>9639132
This sounds like one of those"You see Ivan" jokes...

>> No.9639205

>>9639108
Build moar boats

>> No.9639239

>>9639108
Not really, how far are the fairings out there? 1000 km max? A ship can make it back to shore within a day or two.
Also they can go bigger for a more stable platform and catching 2 at once.

They aren't launching more than 2 times a month from each launch site either
And Dragon capsules don't need fairings.

>> No.9639464

>>9637597
>>this particular mission will be expended, as it will be used to fly a trajectory towards the "limits" of the F9 capability for data collection
cound you ad to this?

>> No.9639467

>>9639108
>>9639132
>>9639205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8T095mFdW8

>> No.9639479
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9639479

Where is the live stream for CRS-14?

The SPESSEX website is still showing the Iridium-5 replay?

>> No.9639483

Stop disrupting markets.

>> No.9639497
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>>9639479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPQHG-LevZM

>> No.9639504

>>9639479
It's not starting for another 9 hours or something anyway.

>> No.9639647

>Falcon 9’s first stage previously launched SpaceX’s twelfth resupply mission for @NASA last year, and Dragon flew to the orbiting laboratory in support of our eighth resupply mission in 2016.
Noice.

>> No.9639707

how long until spacex is launching once a week?

>> No.9639726

>>9639707
next week

>> No.9639754

>>9639464
They’re going to do some extreme testing of the core to see if their engineering predictions hold true

>>9639483
>t. Bezos

>>9639707
Late this year

>> No.9639758

>>9639754
Jeff who?

>> No.9639803

>>9639758
Kisses

>> No.9639806

>>9639464
Unless they explain further my guess would be doing a shorter entry burn, maybe a steeper entry angle, something that'll put more stress on the core as it reenters but would save them fuel.

>> No.9639911

>>9639803
Jeff Kisses who?

>> No.9639992

>>9639108
The catcher-type craft is fast-moving, and they can transfer the fairing-halves to a cheaper transport ship so the catchers don't need to return to port if there are multiple launches that day.

Plus they can build more boats as needed. It only takes a few catches to pay for a new boat.

>> No.9640003

>>9639911
you mom' lips

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>> No.9640118

Cape countdown clocks counting to 16:30:38 EDT (20:30:38 UTC) for liftoff

>> No.9640338

90 minutes

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9640409

Less than one hour to go fuckers

GET HYPE

>> No.9640463

Rockets make my peepee hard.

>> No.9640492

explode pls i'm from the eu and don't like the idea of falling too far behind

>> No.9640496

>>9640492
Go find your lost telemetry arianenigger.

>> No.9640500

>>9639707

Whenever Starlink launches get underway. 1-2 years.

>> No.9640505

>>9640492
>EU has a space agency

go away larping burger

>> No.9640506
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>music has started

OH SHIT NIGGAS

>> No.9640508

>inb4 no cams because noaa

>> No.9640513

>>9640508
Nah apparently they have the proper beauracrat approved piece of paper now.

>> No.9640515
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>>9640505

>> No.9640519

liv

>> No.9640521

Elon makes my peepee hard
also started

>> No.9640526

Why don't they land shit any more

>> No.9640528

>>9640526

They're getting rid of the old non-block 5 rockets.

>> No.9640529

camera whitebalance is fucked. The rocket looks blue where it should look gold and white

>> No.9640532

>>9640526
Older versions of the booster are not useful or cost effective to maintain.

They only land the new V5 set.

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MARS WHEN?

>> No.9640539

>>9640528
>>9640532
Seems like it's not very good to just dump them though.

>> No.9640540

Yo where is the anti SpaceX sperg? That guy is like clockwork normally with these threads.

>> No.9640545

>>9640515
>doubles down on his retardation


https://www.esa.int/About_Us/Welcome_to_ESA/ESA_and_the_EU2
>ESA is an intergovernmental organisation, whereas the EU is supranational. The two institutions have indeed different ranges of competences, different Member States and are governed by different rules and procedures.

>> No.9640548

>>9640537
Soon brother.

>> No.9640549

>>9640539
They are actually testing aggressive landing procedures with these boosters because there is 0 risk of damaging the droneship and the data will improve landings of V5

>> No.9640554

Looks windy.

>> No.9640558

>>9640554
Is wind a high risk for rocket launches? (sry I'm a brainlet)

>> No.9640560

>>9640558
What the fuck do you think

>> No.9640561

>>9640558
Wind is one of the most common reasons for launch scrubs.

>> No.9640564
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9640564

Why did he say they have contracts for 20 ISS missions?

I thought they've been awarded two CRS2 missions on top of the 20 CRS ones?

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>Nanoracks

Delicious flat chests

>> No.9640568

>>9640554
80% go for launch, doesn't look windy.

>> No.9640569

>>9640558
They check wind speeds with weather balloons within hours of launch to confirm it's within limit.

FYI Russia's Soyuz can launch in snow blizzards

>> No.9640570

>>9640558
Over a certain level, yes. Under that level, no.

>> No.9640572

>>9640569
Falcon 9 is the longest/stringiest rocket, that makes it most vulnerable to crosswinds blowing it in half. Soyuz is short and stubby.

>> No.9640574

its going to blow up

>> No.9640576

>>9640549
Where do you get this information?

>> No.9640579

>>9640574
Doubt it 2bh

>> No.9640580

ONE MINUTE

>> No.9640581

>>9640572
Don't forget the genital warts sideboosters

>> No.9640585
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>> No.9640589

It's getting a bit boring now. It's so reliable.

>> No.9640591

>>9640576
They just mentioned this on today's livestream.

>> No.9640592

>>9640574
hah not today my roscosmos friend :D

>> No.9640599

Was a clear explanation ever posted for the NOAA restriction last time?

>> No.9640603

>>9640599
NOAA considers the 2nd stage cameras to be an remote sensing system which require a film license.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/03/spacex-launches-a-rocket-but-noaa-prevented-some-of-it-from-being-shown/

>> No.9640604

>>9640599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxZ0sC8a7eY

>> No.9640606

>>9640589
kek

>>9640599
The official line is """National Secutity"""

>> No.9640612

>>9640604
>space x

>> No.9640622

>>9637403
HE'S DONE IT AGAIN

>> No.9640623
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>nominal

Why do Americans love spamming these tacticool phrases so much?

It's gay as hell

>> No.9640628

What are those array panels?

>> No.9640630

Welp, see y'all in another 2 weeks.

>> No.9640631

Next launch is TESS in 2 weeks.

>> No.9640632

Cool they made it once again.

When is the next Falcon Heavy launch, and what is it carrying?

>> No.9640633
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>>9640628
Solar panels

>> No.9640636

>>9640628
Solar panels

>> No.9640638

>>9640632
Next Heavy launch looks to be STP-2 for the Air Force, NET June 13. That should be a good one

>> No.9640640

>>9640623
Normalfags love them
That's literally the only reason

>> No.9640641

Is there going to be a press conference? And when?

>> No.9640642

>>9640638
The STP-2 (DoD Space Test Program) payload is scheduled to be launched aboard a Falcon Heavy in 2018. The payload is composed of 25 small spacecraft.

Included is COSMIC-2, a cluster of six satellites, with a mass of 277.8 kg each. The primary role of the COSMIC-2 satellite constellation is to provide radio occultation data with an average latency of 45 minutes. The six satellites will be placed on an orbit with an inclination of 24 to 28.5 degrees with six separate orbital planes with 60 degree separation between them. The payload stack will be integrated using EELV Secondary Payload Adapter. Two ESPA Grande rings will be used to mount the six COSMIC-2 satellites beneath the ESPA ring hosting the DSX payload and avionics modules. STP-2 will also host up to 8 CubeSat nanosatellites deployed with P-PODs (Poly Picosatellite Orbital Deployers).

Other secondary payloads include LightSail carried by the Prox-1 nanosatellite, Oculus-ASR nanosatellite, GPIM, and the Deep Space Atomic Clock.

>> No.9640649

>>9640632
If you don't want to miss it, download SpacexNow in the app store. It tells you when the next launch is due.

>> No.9640658

>>9640633
>that pic

Fucking hell man.

>> No.9640661

Did they land the 1st stage this time?

>> No.9640666

>>9640661
read

>>9640528
>>9640549

>> No.9640668
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Is this a dumb theory:
I feel like the Falcon Heavy will perform better with heavier payloads.

Since they never managed to get asparagus staging right, they throttle down the core booster until the side booster separate.

But rocket engines can't be throttled down below a certain number, and having the side boosters at 100% with the core booster at 30% when carrying a light payload (i.e. the car) would produce immense TWR that would be wasted in the thicc atmosphere after launch, and cause a lot of stress on the rocket.

Therefore, I imagine that on light payloads the side boosters are also throttled down, and this causes a loss of Delta V.
This is also why the core booster and the side boosters ran out of fuel so close to each other in the demo mission, they were both running at reduced thrust.

If my theory isn't dumb, heavier payloads will work better on the Falcon Heavy.

>> No.9640673

https://youtu.be/wwMDvPCGeE0

NASA is replaying launch footage from different camera angles they have around KSC. Pretty cool.

>> No.9640692

>>9640673
>KSC
I immediately read Kerbal Space Center...

>> No.9640729

https://youtu.be/wwMDvPCGeE0

NASA providing a LIVE update from Mission Control

>> No.9640921

post launch conf starting

>> No.9640941
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>>9640668
>Therefore, I imagine that on light payloads the side boosters are also throttled down, and this causes a loss of Delta V.
>This is also why the core booster and the side boosters ran out of fuel so close to each other in the demo mission, they were both running at reduced thrust.

they throttle down right around max q on every flight to prevent the rocket from destroying itself, f9 and fh can't actually carry anything near their stated maximum payload capacity without reinforcing them structurally to handle the high acceleration at that point in the flight.

pic related.

>> No.9641052

>>9640941
>f9 and fh can't actually carry anything near their stated maximum payload capacity without reinforcing them structurally to handle the high acceleration at that point in the flight.

I know for a fact that the FH's centre core and second-stage have been structurally reinforced in multiple ways, which is is why they are not interchangeable with single-stick Falcons; this is further reinforced by the fact that Elon has referred to the FH core as a 'frankenstage', and that the second-stage of the FH has already shown itself as superior to the normal variant due to it's ability to coast to GEO which a base Falcon 9 cannot do.

The regular Falcon 9 on the other hand has never flown and likely never will fly a payload heavy enough to structurally compromise it. This is due both to the Falcon 9's reusable nature, as the F9 can't carry anything over 12 tons and land; as well as the current satellite market, as currently there are hardly any satellites over 8 tons in weight being built by the commercial sector, with the industry also leaning towards smaller satellites for the future as well. The only way for the base F9 to carry to much weight would be a large satellite rideshare, but the F9 lacks a fairing to fit more than one bird of this size anyway.

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>>9640623
Nominal was chosen in its space meaning because it could be understood better than "normal" when using VOX-switch communications.

>> No.9641202

>>9641052
Drone ship landing only costs like 15% of payload off the F9
The fairing is gigantic, have you ever seen an image of the size of these sats? Even the big ones? They are tiny compared to the fairing

>> No.9641283

>>9641202
The Iridium stack fills the payload.

>> No.9641284

>>9641283
I mean fairing.

>> No.9641288

Next spacex launch is TESS, April 16th 2018, 18:32 - 18:33 EDT (22:32 - 22:33 UTC). It's an exoplanet searching probe

>> No.9641365

>>9641283
>>9641284
iridium stack is not particularly dense
And I believe its not totally full either, just that adding more sats would involve redesigns.

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>>9641365
I guess you're right, but then you also can't fill up the fairing completely either.
Although it looks like it, there probably isn't enough space for one more set of sats.

>> No.9641591

>>9641052
>the second-stage of the FH has already shown itself as superior to the normal variant due to it's ability to coast to GEO which a base Falcon 9 cannot do.
No, that's not particular to FH, the FH launch was just a good time to test it.

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>> No.9641996

>>9640668
Core booster didn't run out of main propellent, it ran out of reignition fuel, the stuff used to light the main propellent.

>> No.9642032

>>9640673

Fakest shit I've ever seen.

>> No.9643316

rip http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/03/family-4-killed-in-florida-crash-after-seeing-spacex-launch.html

>> No.9643583

>>9641552
I don't think its worth the effort to try to fill it up, and as your payload gets taller with a higher center of gravity, the max weight decreases rapidly.