/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9634576]

Pretty old but can anyone here explain why the majority of people can't see the correct colors of this image? The vast majority seem to see it as dark blue and black or yellow and white while only something like 10% can actually see the real colors the screen is emitting.

[Anonymous No.9634580]

>>9634576
I always saw it as sky blue and vomit brown/goldish.

[Anonymous No.9634586]

>>9634580
You're correct, those are the colors the screen is emitting. I think it's people that have been spending a lot of time on the pc/in front of a screen that can see it properly.

[Anonymous No.9634588]

>>9634576
In that image it's clearly a light blue and a dirty looking kinda brown. There were different pics floating around though, some more saturated than others.
I dunno how anyone saw light gold or white in any of them I though they were just memeing

[Anonymous No.9634592]

>>9634588
This is the original one. The saturated ones were made to highlight how other people see it. I remember this being presented in my class shortly after it just appeared and only me and 2 other students saw it as brown and blue.

[Anonymous No.9634604]

>>9634576
Because there were multiple, different pictures that were circulated. Additionally, the colors look different depending on where exactly you sample them.

[Anonymous No.9634646]

>>9634576
Peoples' brains are trying to adjust for the apparent colored lighting.
They are seeing the colors you are talking about, but they deduce that the original colors are black and blue.

[Anonymous No.9634653]

>>9634580
Anime girls can explain any concept better than sci

[Anonymous No.9634668]

>>9634576
You know, I hovered over the thumbnail once and saw white and gold for the first time. When I did it again it went back to black and blue.

I normally see the dress as black and blue.

[Anonymous No.9634673]

>>9634576
Most of it has to do with the lighting and the auto-color-correction of the mind. They see the exact colors you in your palette, however they are making allowances for the fact that the lighting of the original image would make some colors appear different than they normally would look in bright lighting. Basically, it is how colors start to disappear as light gets darker and darker. In the store, under bright lights, that dress may indeed by gold and white, but under that shitty light those two colors become off color. thus, you can get "black and blue", "brown and blue," and "gold and white", as answers. Other factors, which are less apparent, are how the camera images the colors(like the white balance being off) and how any screen you use also images the colors.

Think about that the next time you look at something red in dim light. It will look almost black depending on how dim the light is or how white, during evening fading light, will look a bluish.

Regardless, without seeing the dress in person under normal light, you won't be able to know its true color. You may even need a professional set of Grey/White Balance & Color Cards to know even then.

>>9634592
>I remember this being presented in my class

The teach/prof is an idiot. lol

[Anonymous No.9634674]

>>9634604
Perhaps there were. Doesn't change the fact that people would see the same picture in different colors though.
>>9634646
Could you go a bit more into detail? Why does this happen? What does this make of the people whose brains don't "deduce the original colors"?

[Anonymous No.9634677]

>>9634673
>The teach/prof is an idiot
Very true.

[Anonymous No.9634687]

>>9634674
Some people are literal. They do what the OP did and use a color picker to select the color as an individual color and not as a color interacting with ambient light in a photo. The other people try to deduce the original color because they instantly see that there's something probably different with the lighting causing the colors to be off from normal. So, you get some people saying brown/black & blue and others saying gold and white. I posted this >>9634673 and I only know about this stuff specifically because I'm a photographer and artist. When I need to have a company print a photo or art piece I have to make sure the colors are correct. Everyone uses color cards and grey cards to ensure what is being seen is exactly what will be printed even if you are not the one printing it. Otherwise, you have people printing up some very expensive mistakes. This even happens when people are 100% perfect in seeing colors on a variety of tests.

[Anonymous No.9634691]

>>9634674
>What does this make of the people whose brains don't "deduce the original colors"?
They use too many unnatural filters on instagram. They're losing proper intuition for how colored light affects things.

[Anonymous No.9634710]

>>9634691
Or, you know, being able to see the actual fucking thing that's on the screen.
>>9634673
>>9634687
I still don't get how lighting can make your brain react like this. The people that saw it weren't "deducing the original color", not consciously at least. They were convinced that what they were seeing was white/black.

[Anonymous No.9634725]

>>9634710
>Or, you know, being able to see the actual fucking thing that's on the screen.
Just as bad.
Inferring the correct colors of things is important, colors are often used for things like signals and warnings. Lighting conditions can change and if you can't infer the correct color that could make you a danger to yourself or others.

>I still don't get how lighting can make your brain react like this.
Have you ever been outside at night, especially in areas that have orange-yellow street lights?
https://youtu.be/CRW0q8i3u6E?t=25

[Anonymous No.9634727]

>>9634710
>make your brain react like this

It doesn't. It is a choice people make. There's no trick or brain difference other than one person being literal and the other trying to discern its originality from the photo.

[Anonymous No.9634735]

Also, I should point out that when the dress is posted the question is "what color is the dress?" not "what color does the dress look?"
People are trying to deduce the actual color of the dress, not just what it looks like on the screen, because that's what the question was.

[Anonymous No.9634745]

>>9634727
>It is a choice people make
It's literally not. All the people I've talked to about it didn't see it as brown and light blue then assume it's something else.
>>9634725
>Have you ever been outside at night
No b00s, I'm an upstanding citizen.
>https://youtu.be/CRW0q8i3u6E?t=25
Not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing, I've always seen the street lights as orange just like in that video.

[Anonymous No.9634757]

>>9634745
Those people are not introspective enough to understand and just brainlets.

[Anonymous No.9634760]

>>9634745
What color is the concrete? What color are the road markings? What color are the trees?

[Anonymous No.9634799]

When I first saw this it was clearly, vividly white/gold. After a while it "turned" blue/black. Right now, it looks dirty brown/sky blue (i.e I can see it accurately).

I suspect it's related to the display device and lighting conditions you first saw it in.

[Anonymous No.9634823]

>>9634760
>What color is the concrete
Brown-ish early on under those brighter lights then orange-yellow when he reaches the street lamps further ahead.
>What color are the road markings
Bright white when he's approaching them then greyish-white once he gets closer.
>What color are the trees?
Those under the streetlights? Orange and brown.
Checked with the palette again after writing this and they all seem right.
>>9634757
That's the most retarded thing I've read today. Thank you Anon.

[Anonymous No.9634833]

>>9634799
>I suspect it's related to the display device and lighting conditions you first saw it in
Not related, people were seeing it on the same screen and tried different perspectives to see if it would change.

[Anonymous No.9634841]

>>9634823
>That's the most retarded thing I've read today. Thank you Anon.

Oh, so you are one of those brainlets. lol

[Anonymous No.9634847]

>>9634823
Not "what color do they look", what color ARE they?

[Anonymous No.9634853]

>>9634847
How the hell am I supposed to know that? I can only make assumptions, I didn't see those objects under regular lighting conditions.

[Anonymous No.9634868]

>>9634853
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.9634934]

>>9634868
Not at all, the dress question is about how you perceive the color. The way we got it was something along the lines of "What colors do you see?". People legitimately saw it the way they did, not assumed what it could look like.

[Anonymous No.9634970]

>>9634934
I'm going to chalk it up to a difference in how people interpreted the question then.
I know you can argue that it's a straight forward question but people can easily just subtract the "gold tinted" from "i see a gold tinted black and blue dress".

[Anonymous No.9634988]

>>9634970
Well you can always ask this >>9634799
guy. But I can assure you it was not interpreted differently, even had a few people asking "where on the dress do you see brown?".

[Anonymous No.9635008]

>>9634576
All were right. It was white and blue at the same time.

>reason

Shading.

[Anonymous No.9636034]

>>9634576
I don't understand how someone can see white and gold, there's obviously ample lighting in the room

[Anonymous No.9636359]

>>9634576
Your brain corrects for things like shadows and stuff
Making darker things brighter and bright things less bright

That photo is taken in such a way that you can't see whether it's in the shadow or not

So for some people their brain assumes it's in the light and they'll see the correct colors

And other people's brains assume its in the shadows and their brains brighten the colours

[Anonymous No.9636409]

>>9634576
"The dress itself was confirmed as a royal blue "Lace Bodycon Dress" from the retailer Roman Originals, which was actually blue-and-black in colour"

It's blue and black, retards

[Anonymous No.9636456]

>ITT: retards spread misconceptions

[Anonymous No.9636686]

>>9634934
>the dress question is about how you perceive the color.

It isn't.

[Anonymous No.9636694]

>>9636456
>t. retard doesn't point out and correct said misconceptions

[Anonymous No.9636700]

[Anonymous No.9636721]

>>9636700
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.9636725]

All of the amazing things in this world and this is what you spend your time thinking about.

[Anonymous No.9636739]

>>9636725
grape, really isnt that hard

[Anonymous No.9636835]

You realize different monitors reproduce colors differently right?

[Anonymous No.9636875]

>>9634576
>>9634580
>>9634586
The question is not what color the screen is emitting you absolute autists, it's what color the dress is in reality

[Anonymous No.9636890]

>>9636739
Thank you for anonymously affirming your intellectual superiority over rick lax.

[Anonymous No.9636898]

>>9636875
why cant someone post how the real dress looked like

[Anonymous No.9636919]

>>9636835
They're all somewhere near sRGB anyway, the white point should be about the same.

[Anonymous No.9638041]

>>9636898
This is the original one

[Anonymous No.9638075]

I see it as white and yellow

[Anonymous No.9638421]

>>9636700
I've always been convinced that it's just the camera adjusting the contrast dynamically or something like this.

[Anonymous No.9638903]

>>9634576
The human brain adjusts the way it perceives colour based on the time of day and the surrounding light. If you look at the pic during the day with natural sun light coming through the windows your brain will see a different colour than if you looked at the pic at night time with no sun light. What you see depends on the source of surrounding light and the time of day.

[Anonymous No.9638918]

>>9634576
white and brown

[Anonymous No.9638925]

>>9638903
the colour of the light colours the the stuff that it hits?

NO WAY

[Anonymous No.9638938]

>>9638925
>the colour of the light colours the the stuff that it hits?
what?

[Anonymous No.9638954]

>>9634576
the brain automatically corrects for lighting

[Anonymous No.9638956]

>>9638925
This has nothing to do with the colour of the dress. It has to do with the brain's perception of the colour. The brain perceives colours differently depending on the time of day and the source of surrounding light. The brain has evolved to be like this over millions of years.

[Anonymous No.9638963]

>>9638956
maybe.

But I have noticed snow turns orange when the sun is setting, because the light from the sun is predominantly orange.

And photos confirm.

[Anonymous No.9638974]

>>9636875
Which the picture answers.

[Anonymous No.9639008]

>>9634576
People can easily see the correct colors. The devil lies in the double meaning on how you phrase the question and not clarifying what you actually want.

Half the people answered what color is visible on the picture (ie. the color value of the pixels on the screen), the other half answered what the dress actually looks like in real life, without any camera and/or lighting that changes the output.

It's just like those "math riddle" question clickbait shits, where the question itself is not how you get 8 billion replies, it's by intentionally leaving out information on the question that leads people down different thought paths.

TL;DR both answers are correct, frame of reference matters.

[Anonymous No.9639024]

>>9639008
but 2 + 2= 5 when I divide by zero in a fancy way so its true and math is a lie propagated by the jews in an attempt to mind control everyone stemming from an agreement made at area 51 in 1947.

[Anonymous No.9639071]

>>9636725
kumquat

[Anonymous No.9639191]

>>9634576
I never got this meme, shit looks different when under different colored light/filters, revolutionary.

[Anonymous No.9639195]

>>9634588
All i see is white and bronze/cream

[Anonymous No.9639197]

>>9638963
That's a completely separate thing you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.9639274]

>>9636700
seeing gold and white here is normal since it's hard to infer lighting conditions, whereas the pic in the OP shows it pretty clearly and people who do not see blue and black have inferior brains.

[Anonymous No.9639465]

>>9634576
The term you should be researching is "white balance" and "color temperature"
/p/ out

[Anonymous No.9639525]

>>9636875
Oh yes, I can 'see' light that isn't being picked up by my eyes.

[Anonymous No.9639940]

>>9639191
it will also look different after you look at it for a while