Should I feel optimistic or pessimistic about Space Travel right now?

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Should I feel optimistic or pessimistic about Space Travel right now? Anonymous Sat Mar 10 20:20:13 2018 No.9576339 [Reply] [Original]

Anonymous Sat Mar 10 20:28:01 2018 No.9576357

The price of going into low Earth orbit is probably going to go down.
Maybe someone will even build a moon base.

Still pessimistic about going further -- not with chemical rockets, anyway. That's always going to be marginal, an "Over Niagara Falls in a Barrel" stunt.

Anonymous Sat Mar 10 20:41:26 2018 No.9576379

Super pessimistic like it's a Sci-Fi tease that is forever dangled in front of your face because it keeps the profits rolling in

Space travel is less exciting and way more dangerous than exploring the bottom of the ocean.

And not only does space travel take forever, it only takes one crazy or complacent person to fuck something up and you left counting down the time until you die.

Space is best left to robots and wallpapers. Sorry buddo

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 10 20:43:31 2018 No.9576382 Space travel gets boring as fuck one you realize it's full of empty/broken promises and timescales that are longer than for how long you will live.

Anonymous Sat Mar 10 20:47:40 2018 No.9576390

>>9576339
Right now? Pessimistic. Because we can't do a good job under the pressure of all of our stupid political decisions. Right now it's really only being held up by Space x alone. I don't think it's as impossible as everyone in the thread would have you believe, but in any case to do it right we first need to take a long look at ourselves and decide it's more important than feeding the third world or something else equally as retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 10 20:51:05 2018 No.9576398 >>9576390 SpaceX hasn't done a single bit of space travel in their entire history.

Anonymous Sat Mar 10 21:44:04 2018 No.9576491
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>>9576339
>Still pessimistic about going further -- not with chemical rockets, ..

I am going to let you in on a little secret and because this is an anon board nobody will believe it: we already have FTL propulsion technology. Developed at least 50 years ago. ;)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 10 21:49:15 2018 No.9576504 >>9576339 I can't reconcile the reflection of the flight path in the water. Why doe the reflection go right, but the path go left?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 10 22:00:51 2018 No.9576523 spacex business is cgi and media products not actual space travel?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 10 22:43:58 2018 No.9576589 You'll never get anywhere with rockets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 10 22:45:21 2018 No.9576591 >>9576339 optimistic that we will go to mars ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... next century.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 10 22:54:32 2018 No.9576600 File: 184 KB, 962x642, Rusting Space Shuttles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9576339 >Should I feel optimistic or pessimistic about Space? Optimistic about SpaceX Pessimistic about NASA

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 10 22:59:20 2018 No.9576609 >>9576600 One in the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 06:32:08 2018 No.9577096 >>9576600 That's Buran, the Shuttleski The Shuttles are well-cared for tourist attractions. Still useless, though.

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 07:56:14 2018 No.9577151
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Pessimistic

Interstellar travel isn't realistic. We will have nuked ourselves into oblivion before we can reach that level of technology.

Of course we'll reach mars, but how will that help us in any way? Space dust?

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:04:40 2018 No.9577156

>>9576339
Pessimistic. Even if spacex is serious there will be huge backlash against what they plan to do because they are walking into big money turf with decades of entrenchment.
The cancelled martian capsule and the moon tourist flyby are good examples of backing away from conflict.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:10:47 2018 No.9577165 >>9576357 chemical rockets are sufficient for inner solar system travel, including Mars, Venus, near-Earth asteroids and maybe Ceres further than that and you need nuclear or fusion tough

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:11:39 2018 No.9577166

>>9576339
Pessimistic, humanity will never visit more than 0.00000000001% of the universe because everything is going away from us constantly.

It may be stupid but honestly it made me stop being sad I wasn't born at the right time, to late for earth exploration and too early for space exploration. Now I'm just glad I'm here at a time where we have enough knowledge to make good Sci-Fi books/movies/video games and dream about what could be out there.

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:13:39 2018 No.9577168

>>9577151
Interstellar travel is unrealistic but, a Mars base would make a decent staging point for missions further out into the solar system. You could take the BFR into Mars orbit and refuel it with the tankers, then head out towards the Jovian moons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:15:43 2018 No.9577171 >>9577151 Too many wealthy people who like the planet the way it is m8. Mostly poor people die.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:20:06 2018 No.9577181 >>9576357 This. Without unlocking the secrets of anti-gravity it is pointless to even try.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:24:32 2018 No.9577185 >>9576379 The only post in this thread that actually makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:25:52 2018 No.9577189 >>9576491 > FTL > havent used it yet weak bait

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:26:24 2018 No.9577190 >>9576339 Why do rockets launch at a curve? Is it because it's more efficient/easy to launch with the curvature/rotation of the planet?

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 08:31:16 2018 No.9577201

>>9577190
>Is it because it's more efficient/easy to launch with the curvature/rotation of the planet?
Yep. As some wiseguy once said: getting up there is easy, staying up there is hard. Our atmosphere isnt that large, most fuel is spend on achieving terminal velocity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 11:07:47 2018 No.9577410 >>9576379 Fuck off, faggot. I can go to space if I want.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 12:07:09 2018 No.9577469 time traveling will be possible in like 1000 to 1000000 years

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 12:16:20 2018 No.9577483 File: 1.57 MB, 417x307, cgi.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9577190 Because they don't actually go into space.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 12:20:38 2018 No.9577492 >>9577190 to go to space you need to go mostly sideways

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 12:22:48 2018 No.9577496

>>9576339

Pessimistic as fuck. Literally the most exciting things happening in the space is the James Webb telescope which will be launching soon, and the potential Breakthrough Starshot program which I hope actually happens. But both of these things are unmanned. We might send a man to Mars but who the fuck cares that's lame.

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 12:26:45 2018 No.9577505

>>9576504
If a mirror is lying flat on the floor and somebody is standing on the opposite side of the mirror, at an angle from you, their reflection will reflect at that angle for you, and your reflection will reflect at whatever angle you are at for them.

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:25:17 2018 No.9577834

>>9577190
The first priority is to get out of the thick atmosphere, reducing air resistance. Thus a vertical launch. However, the final orbit is horizontal. As you go up and encounter less resistance and gain speed, you start pointing horizontally: the priority gradually shifts from leaving an atmosphere to entering an orbit. Eventually, all your acceleration/velocity is horizontal.

The direction of the horizontal component is usually W to E to take advantage of the Earth's rotation. It's also why launches are best made from as close to the equator as (politically) possible, where the rotational speed is greatest. But polar orbits (or close enough for the missions) are also launched.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:34:29 2018 No.9577857 >>9577496 >James Webb telescope which will be launching soon nah, probably add a year+, not because of Ariane - but Northrop Grumman

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:34:56 2018 No.9577859 Optimistic. The real dark age was post-apollo. It's like the world ended as far as spaceflight went. But thanks to certain recent additions aerospace industry we are close to seeing that mistake undone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:35:48 2018 No.9577863 File: 802 KB, 1087x499, Reflections.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9577505 Geez.. do I have spell it out?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:37:07 2018 No.9577868 >>9576339 Space travel is such an irrelevant thing to even be discussing until we solve the energy crisis. I'm 100% serious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:40:10 2018 No.9577877 >>9577868 It's not as if we can't do both, you know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:40:13 2018 No.9577878 >>9577863 Lmao.

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:45:30 2018 No.9577893

>>9577877
I'm imagining a fully committed space program that would actually be reaching other planets and eating up ridiculous, unanticipated amounts of earth resources. Renewable needs to be the #1 source of common energy for home and transportation, and fusion needs to power our industries and cities before we start doing it for real.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:50:07 2018 No.9577904 >>9577496 >He's not excited about TESS

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 14:54:10 2018 No.9577914 File: 44 KB, 512x768, bdbDUs1qRsHDa29F6h1Y1bYL6J1yIPhQkbLIQ3g5Kfw[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9577863 It should look like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 15:29:03 2018 No.9577988 >>9577893 And that is exactly why the Apollo program came to a halt. People complained resources should go to the poor. So science pretty much ground to a halt. Everyone has their own agenda. And they're all the most important. Get in the queue.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 15:31:29 2018 No.9577990 >>9577914 Exactly! That makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 15:34:33 2018 No.9577994 >>9577914 Ummm... rocket-wise, yes. Now where's the Moon's reflection in the water?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 15:40:59 2018 No.9578005 >>9576339 As long as you understand we'll never ever leave our solar system

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 16:02:51 2018 No.9578039 >>9577988 >resources should go to the poor XD lmao upboat +1 totally what I said

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 16:53:13 2018 No.9578146

>>9576339
nope, Mars is a meme planet, we need to concentrate on the belt and the Jupiter/Saturn Systems. Trillions will be spent on the Mars boondoggle and nothing will come from it, and then it's only a matter of time till Kessler Syndrome occurs, and we're trapped here forever

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 22:47:45 2018 No.9578967

>>9577994
From the photographer:
>bassfaceglenn
>Thank you! Yea I was really happy with how this shot came out. Originally I was going to shoot a single 3.5 minute exposure but a few minutes prior I switched my settings to 30 second shots firing off one after another. Ended up having 7 frames worth of rocket streak data. I blended the streaks (sky and water reflection) with some targeted masks and the lighten blend mode. The stars are from the frame right before launch. The rest of the image is from the frame right at ignition when the sky was the brightest. I decided on the composite approach last minute because the moon light was creating some real gnarly banding issues in the sky when I took my test shots. When I dropped it to the shorter exposure I wasn't getting the banding problems as severely.

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 22:56:23 2018 No.9578992
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>>9576339
Pessimistic. Humans will never travel into space on a large scale. There may be very limited travel within our solar system for the purposes of resource extraction and possibly leisure for the ultra wealthy. Besides that not much.

And any space travel is essentially meaningless since we cannot travel faster than the speed of light and thus we can never reach distant galaxies or do much exploration. And by "we", I of course mean nobody here, nor myself.

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 23:01:57 2018 No.9579007

>>9577168
The logistics of a space colony located on Mars or even the moon would be insane. Any turmoil on Earth means there's a very real risk of resources being cut off and the colony will die. Furthermore, no government would be stupid enough to set up an actual colony off Earth anyway because a single shitskin suicide bomber/saboteur could destroy the entire thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 23:06:45 2018 No.9579018 >>9578967 I figured it out by comparing the shapes of the paths in the sky and reflection: the Moon's reflection is just off-frame, below the image.

Anonymous Sun Mar 11 23:09:42 2018 No.9579021

>>9576339
>Asking a fapanese bannana massage parlor how you should feel.

You dug past rock bottom. Found its molten core, dug through that. Popped out the other hemisphere on a pyroclastic flow and the sheer force of your autism has managed to shove you right into the depths of a black hole in the furthest reaches of space where only God can hear you scream.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 23:16:44 2018 No.9579039 >>9577469 Then why havent we seen them yet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 11 23:20:57 2018 No.9579046 >>9576357 >>9577165 >>9577181 >what are NERVAs >what are Nuke Pulse drives >what are laser highways It's like people here don't even Science and Futurism with Isaac Arthur.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 00:22:13 2018 No.9579240 >send scientists to Mars >that can't even lift a solar panel onto solar tracking rack Mars needs heavy labor.

Anonymous Mon Mar 12 00:44:09 2018 No.9579288

>>9579240
>2018
>weight of 2.3 pounds per square foot
>averaging 40 pounds per residential class panel
>Mars has the gravity of ~0.3g
>lifting 13 pounds
Yeah, nerds might be weak, but first nerds we send there will most probably be buff nerds from the military.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 01:21:28 2018 No.9579370 >>9577893 Well to do that you will have to get your government to stop funding the third world. Good luck with that. At this point, private companies are the only solution.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 04:22:35 2018 No.9579681 >>9577483 WHAT THEE FUCK

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 06:51:47 2018 No.9579862 >>9576600 >>9577096 The Buran was better than the STSs, but the USSR's economy obviously didn't do too well because of the economic reforms. It didn't help that they had Yeltsin as president for a while.

Anonymous Mon Mar 12 07:32:02 2018 No.9579910

>>9579862
Buran was... meh. Better on the avionics and control part, worse on orbital capabilities, to be honest. The best part of the Buran program was the Energia. That titanic thing was the best rocket of it's age. And we blew it. "Пpocти нac, Юpa, мы вcё пpoeбaли".

Anonymous Mon Mar 12 10:37:52 2018 No.9580202
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>>9576339
Depends on what you're expecting.
>Mars mission actually being planned seriously
>SSTO (planned) and reusable rockets
><2,000$ to LEO achieved,<1,000$ soon
>the 100 launches per year psychological barrier to be broken in 2018 for the first time since the cold war, 2018 might even become the year with the most launches in history
>biggest rockets since Saturn V being constructed, even bigger planned
>multiple earth-sized exoplanets with the potential for life being found
>actual (albeit expensive) LEO/Moon tourism soon
>return to the moon being planned
>various ion drives being used
>EMdrive might be the most important thing in modern space exploration (if it works)
>with negative energy being proven to exist, an alcubierre drive (FTL) becomes theoretically possible in the very far future
I'd say it's the best time since the 60s.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 10:50:10 2018 No.9580220 >>9580202 >this is your brain on pop-sci

Anonymous Mon Mar 12 11:06:21 2018 No.9580247
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>>9579910

Energia...overrated.

All the Energia-Buran money should have been spent on a larger capsule and cargo spacecraft for the Zenit and a larger next gen space station.

Today Russia's plans are for a larger 6 person capsule for a Zenit clone rocket. They still haven't caught up to where they could have been in the late 80s due to the strategic misinvestment in Energia Buran.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 12:11:45 2018 No.9580367 9580220 >STILL spamming buzzwords You don't get a (You)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 13:00:19 2018 No.9580446 >>9576339 There is a secret space program that is currently under black budget. We've had FTL since the 1970's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwOkzaqzog

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 13:09:34 2018 No.9580462 >>9577190 https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 14:25:15 2018 No.9580569 >>9577483 What am I meant to see here

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 14:29:05 2018 No.9580575 >>9578992 She has a really nice bum

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 14:35:01 2018 No.9580581 >>9578992 Cryo is a feasible answer to that for one-way sublight interstellar trips though

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 14:47:11 2018 No.9580606 >>9580581 >Cryo is a feasible answer

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 14:51:09 2018 No.9580615 >>9580606 Name a better option then you negative nancy

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 14:53:04 2018 No.9580618 >>9580615 >THAN Anyways it's just another hurdle that at this point isn't achieveable Not saying it won't I'm just saying feasible makes it sound like it's actually, uh... feasible

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 16:14:25 2018 No.9580758 I'm pretty optimistic about it now thanks to SpaceX. It's hilarious looking at the launch manifest for the year and seeing how hard they are destroying the competition. How can bezos even compete?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 20:20:54 2018 No.9581250 >>9576339 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL4yYHdDSWs

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 22:25:35 2018 No.9581600 >>9580758 >How can bezos even compete? At least Bezos is not like this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ-7nNw-04Q

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 22:38:00 2018 No.9581636 >>9577483 Flat Earth cumfurmed

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 23:02:29 2018 No.9581681 Is a fusion powered rocket capable of attaining 3,000 km/s? While also being able to constantly accelerate at 9.81 m/s? My idea is to use an afterburner fusion engine using Methane as the fuel for the afterburner(for its abundance). Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 23:03:50 2018 No.9581688 >>9581681 3,000 km/s for Delta-V in case anyone got confused on that

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 23:12:46 2018 No.9581710 >>9580618 I think "then" was the correct use friendo

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 23:34:14 2018 No.9581756 >>9580758 SpaceX cucks will never cease to make me laugh, keep it up please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 23:39:45 2018 No.9581767 Even if SpaceX can land many of their big fucking rockets on Mars a permanent settlement is just not feasible and would be almost entirely dependent on supplies from Earth. Extreme pessimism.

Anonymous Mon Mar 12 23:40:36 2018 No.9581769

>>9579046
>What is a technology humanity will ever make
>What is a technology humanity will ever make
>What is a technology humanity will ever make
>Isaac Arthur
>"""""futurism"""""
hopeless optimism is just as bad as pessimism retard, none of those can ever be built

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 23:41:11 2018 No.9581770 >>9581767 That's if they can even build the damn thing. They're already talking about tests next year despite not even having the engine built yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 12 23:50:05 2018 No.9581786 >>9576339 mars colony by 2040

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:06:14 2018 No.9581811 >>9581769 >What is a technology humanity will ever make >'''''''''contraption'''''''' We will never build your fancy heavier than air flying machine contraption. Boats and Trains are the pinnacle of technology you absolute Johnny flim flam

Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:11:47 2018 No.9581819

Insider here,

Be optimistic about SpaceX. Really optimistic. Blue Origin too, we're moving along slowly but surely.

Be pessimistic about SLS. Be pessimistic about anything NASA. NASA is making a multi billion dollar mistake right now with the SLS and sinking more funds into the Mobile Launcher and holy fuck it's going to end badly.

Everything is pretty much riding on BFR and New Glenn, which I am 100% sure are going to succeed by 2022.

t. BE-4 enginer

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:18:01 2018 No.9581836 >>9581819 Why foreign governments copy NASA with expendable rockets?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:20:31 2018 No.9581841 >>9581819 Has it been stated how SpaceX will deal with radiation for BFR during the Mars journey?

Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:24:59 2018 No.9581855

>>9581836
Lack of technology and resources. VTVL development takes a lot of time and very careful testing. SpaceX has been playing the long game for a while and sought not instant gratification or contracts like other foreign agencies. It's easier to "look competitive" by saying you'll have a rocket that can deliver 130 metric tons to LEO in 2 years, but in reality the costs of the fucking launch make the whole thing so pointless nobody but NASA will be able to afford to pay for transport (out of your pockets).

Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:28:30 2018 No.9581862

>>9581841
Not his problem, literally. Elon's main concern is making BFR and having it perform to requirements. Humans are always flaunted as the reason we make these rockets, but the seats you could sell on a BFR or NG to GEO then mars orbit would make you fucking nothing compared to the fuel costs. Money is entirely in transportation of cargo, which radiation isn't a concern for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:45:26 2018 No.9581894 File: 178 KB, 341x650, fag_ahoy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9581862 Wouldn't mining materials like Titanium n shiet net much more income than just blasting off to Mars?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:46:28 2018 No.9581898 >>9581894 Forgot to mention the part about the Titanium being on the Moon... Just go to the fucking Moon is what i'm trying to say.

Anonymous Tue Mar 13 00:56:00 2018 No.9581911

>>9581841
The ass of the rocket points towards the sun so all the engine mass and fuel tank mass is between humans and the sun. Apparently they are surrounding the crew cabin with a water tank blanket for non solar radiation. Supposedly there is also going to be a rad shelter too where they can pack them like sardines if the rads get too high.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:02:34 2018 No.9581927 >>9581911 >A jacket of H2O surrounding the living space Sounds heavy...for me

Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:08:26 2018 No.9581949
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>>9581819
>Be optimistic about SpaceX.
>Be pessimistic about SLS.
wew weee. Now this is some prime bait going on over here. You're not even trying to hide the fact that you're a shill aren't you? "BE-4 engineer"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:09:14 2018 No.9581950 >>9576339 Neither, you're not leaving the planet in your lifetime. Or your kids'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:09:53 2018 No.9581952 >>9581949 Not An Argument

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:11:15 2018 No.9581958 File: 1.14 MB, 480x358, 1504313422523.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9581952 You're some random SpaceX fanboy pretending on being an engineer so that your can spread FUD. I don't need an argument for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:19:35 2018 No.9581977 File: 674 KB, 2048x1536, IMG_20180312_221834.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9581958 How is highschool treating you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:24:08 2018 No.9581986 File: 133 KB, 1221x717, fbi_fuck_you.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9581977 I got you in my sights terrorist traitor

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:29:11 2018 No.9581997 >>9581977 lol, is the fact that you do work for them supposed to change anything? You're still some random cuck spreading FUD. It actually just makes you an even bigger shill since you're actually on the company's payroll.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:29:53 2018 No.9581998 >>9581986 Dr Pavel, i am FBI.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:30:26 2018 No.9582001 >>9581997 >spreading FUD about SLS I used to work on the payload integration team, you cuckwit. I left them for Blue. SLS is a sinking ship, my highschooling friend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:32:35 2018 No.9582002 >>9576339 If you weren't jacked up on sci-fi, pop culture, and other vapid nonsense, even the most minor advancement would be exciting and optimism-imbuing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:32:58 2018 No.9582003 File: 9 KB, 369x311, 61b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9582001 >I used to work on the payload integration team, you cuckwit. I left them for Blue. SLS is a sinking ship, my highschooling friend. pic related

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:49:14 2018 No.9582032 >>9582003 Is SLS not a sinking ship?

Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:53:53 2018 No.9582036

>>9582032
Unless you consider a rocket that is being actively tested and already under construction to be a sinking ship, no. I know Musk says differently, but he's a retard. Super heavy rockets are extremely difficult and costly to make. Would've thunk?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:55:24 2018 No.9582038 >>9582036 >1 billion dollar leaning tower of shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:57:07 2018 No.9582041 >>9582038 > Heavy mobile launcher being built in Florida has a lean well within predictions and will require no corrective action. oh no

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:58:01 2018 No.9582043 You shouldn't feel about space travel

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 01:58:49 2018 No.9582047 >>9582036 Oh look it's the SLS shill again. This is why that shitheap costs so much because they pay shills to make it look better online to try and save face being btfo so hard by SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:00:57 2018 No.9582050 >>9582047 Not An Argument :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:01:22 2018 No.9582054 >>9582036 Making 1 billion dollar vehicle only for one use is madness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:02:22 2018 No.9582057 >>9582050 20 cents has been deposited into your account.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:02:26 2018 No.9582058 >>9582054 >1 billion dollar vehicle lmao, they wish it's a 1 billion dollar TOWER for one use, multiple billion for the fucking rocket itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:02:35 2018 No.9582060 >>9582036 >Super heavy rockets are extremely difficult and costly to make. There is no technical reason why this has to be true. SpaceX is significantly reducing the cost of ~20 ton rockets, and the same will be done with ~150 ton ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:04:31 2018 No.9582063 >>9582060 Lmao, this shit again. Go shill somewhere else, God knows you've infested every spaceflight forum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:06:12 2018 No.9582066 >>9582054 >>9582058 I too enjoy reading Eric Berger articles on Arsetechnica. The information presented there is always so factual and is never biased or exaggerated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:06:20 2018 No.9582067 >>9576339 pessimistic - nothing ever advances, the Pope took a shit in the woods today and my woman washed my horse chaps in the stream. We only had 3 chickens laying eggs all winter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:07:51 2018 No.9582068 >>9582063 >t. increasing nervous ULA exec

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:10:22 2018 No.9582072 >>9576339 ISS stands for Idiot Slaves Suckered truly depressing get some meds before it's too late

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:12:24 2018 No.9582073 >>9582072 No mate, you need to take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:15:15 2018 No.9582078 >>9582073 im on 800ml ssri daily, what more can u do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:17:10 2018 No.9582081 >>9582073 hello are u going to help or did u turn your back like an asshole now

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:26:39 2018 No.9582092 You always hear about making concrete on the moon or Mars. Is concrete even air tight? Even if it is one crack and everyone dies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:30:02 2018 No.9582093 >>9582092 Isolate it with fabric from outside and inside.

Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:34:06 2018 No.9582102

>>9582092
Once the concrete has finished it's curing process it won't crack though because there is no seismic activity. Yes, concrete is airtight if poured correctly, and like >>9582093 says, you can always add layers of fabric/silion sealant/whatever to either side.

Anonymous Tue Mar 13 02:48:38 2018 No.9582120

>>9577156
They cancelled them because it's too much of a pain to get Falcon Heavy human rated.
Part of the process is having to launch the rocket seven times without making any changes to its construction, without mishap.
Potentially they could launch a single Falcon Heavy seven times, but Falcon Heavy probably needs more tuning before it would be ready for the same level of reuse the Block 5 Falcon 9 will be.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 13 04:50:04 2018 No.9582327 Are there actually people out there who GENUINELY don't like what SpaceX is doing?

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