/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9548794]

This is fine.

[Anonymous No.9548797]

lol think of the hellish nightmare all the normie's grandchildren are going to live through

[Anonymous No.9548802]

>>9548794
so is new york underwater now like that fucking moron failed politician Al Gore said?

[Anonymous No.9548805]

if the polar caps melted by that much and I've noticed no change whatsoever, why should i be worried about it in the future.

[Anonymous No.9548811]

Just put a fridge in there to make more ice.

[Anonymous No.9548817]

>>9548802
Sea ice already displaces ocean. We need to worry when Greenland and Antarctica start shrinkin.

Lack of sea ice means less albedo, and more solar radiation getting absorbed by dark oceans and raisin water temperatures.

[Anonymous No.9548821]

>>9548805
Sea ice, buddy. An ice cube melting in your cheap-ass long island iced tea isn't going to make it spill over.

[Anonymous No.9548827]

>>9548802
Underwater, no. It does flood all the time near the river tbough.

[Anonymous No.9548833]

>>9548802
big words, retard
lrn2read

[Anonymous No.9548837]

>>9548794
Earth is flat

[Anonymous No.9549146]

>>9548802
>so is new york underwater now like that fucking moron failed politician Al Gore said?

YES!

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28254-floods-that-hit-new-york-city-every-500-years-now-hit-every-24/

[Anonymous No.9549160]

>>9549146
>floods that hit nyc every 500 years
how old do they think nyc is

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>>9549203
Do you really think the public cares if some ice melts?

[Anonymous No.9549210]

>>9549205
>not grasping the bigger implications of this indicator

[Anonymous No.9549211]

>>9548817
>Lack of sea ice means less albedo

nigger where is the sea ice located

nigger what is the critical angle of water

fucking gullible "muh albedo" motherfuckers

[Anonymous No.9549212]

>>9549205
they will

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[Anonymous No.9549216]

>>9549210
>the public
>grasping anything

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[Anonymous No.9549225]

humans will be extinct in the next 300 hundred years anyway

[Anonymous No.9549228]

This is fine.

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[Anonymous No.9549230]

>>9549205
This is /sci/, not the public.
We are supposed to be a little less retarded than that.

[Anonymous No.9549232]

>>9549212

>measure the same thing twice
>100% correlation!!!!1!!!111

no shit

[Anonymous No.9549235]

we are actually so fucked, there is nothing that can save us now short of a virus that kills 99% of the human population

[Anonymous No.9549237]

>>9549230
Go to /pol/ and they will say that the images are fake.

[Anonymous No.9549239]

>>9549235

why do you think that (((we))) are fucked?

[Anonymous No.9549242]

>>9549228
>tfw humans cause bananas to rot

[Anonymous No.9549243]

>>9549237
>/pol/ is an accurate representation of the general population

[Anonymous No.9549247]

>>9549205
They do. Only americans are retarded enough to deny something as blindingly obvious as man-made climate change.

[Anonymous No.9549255]

>>9549247
Only yurops are retarded enough to believe in man made climate change and, worse yet, only yops have the hubris to believe in man preventing climate change.

I bet you're a cuck canadian anyway though.

[Anonymous No.9549258]

>>9549243
Trust me, it is.

[Anonymous No.9549265]

>>9549258
You really should leave the echo chamber.

[Anonymous No.9549274]

>>9549255
>CLIMATE CHANGE ISN'T REAL, AND IF IT IS YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.
You know that at this point you just sound like you'll claim anything just to have a reason not to even slightly consider your lifestyle? Because that's basically all that's behind climate change denial - all-American self-serving laziness. "Nah it ain't real cuz it would mean I'd have to do summin."

[Anonymous No.9549313]

>>9549274
Man made climate change isn't real, and man preventing climate change isn't real.

Learn to fucking read.

[Anonymous No.9549317]

>>9549205

The greatest mass extinction in history of Earth happened because average temperatures went up by 5 degrees.

[Anonymous No.9549328]

>>9549243

If that was true Trump would win with 90%, every European country would be ruled be neo nazis and EU wouldn't exist.

[Anonymous No.9549329]

>>9549317
>5 degrees is worse than a really big rock
Sure

[Anonymous No.9549333]

>>9549205
Not to be an asshole but, were these photos taken at the same time of year? Too little context for my taste.

[Anonymous No.9549339]

>>9549333
Glaciers don't really change size during the seasons.

[Anonymous No.9549345]

>>9549313
Same fucking thing to that effect, you being too lazy to even make an attempt. How do natural phenomena explain the currently spikes in data better than human influence?

[Anonymous No.9549363]

>>9548794

>Northwest Passage

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>>9548797
>rags

[Anonymous No.9549375]

>>9549328
if only

[Anonymous No.9549376]

>>9548794
Due to the thinner ice, the northern passage now exists, which is a shorter trading route for ships trading in the arctic.

[Anonymous No.9549379]

>>9549345
Either lies or misinterpretation of data, theres no real reason otherwise to believe humans are causing climate change. Climate change can happen and it can happen relatively quickly but it doesn't require man made carbon emissions to validate it. There was an ice bridge from antarctica to south america in the 1600s and had receded quite a bit before even the industrial revolution.
You're honestly either gullible and dumb for lies of muh carbon taxes, or you're incredibly stupid and don't understand that the planet goes through warming and cooling periods constantly.

[Anonymous No.9549382]

>>9549164
can you post the one that goes inward instead of outward? I think its ice surface area or something like that.

[Anonymous No.9549383]

>>9548833
The greatest mystery in this thread is that what fucking words were too big for you Al

[Anonymous No.9549385]

Lololol stupid faggots think oil is a limited resource when there's oil under the ice caps.

[Anonymous No.9549391]

>>9549205
When big cities start to be flooded on a regular basis they will.

[Anonymous No.9549392]

>>9549379
>There was an ice bridge from antarctica to south america in the 1600s
I'm sure you can provide a credible backup for that claim, because I can't find anything on quick glance.

[Anonymous No.9549395]

>>9549385
>a few additional undiscovered finite sources of something somehow make it unlimited

[Anonymous No.9549433]

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>>9548794
believing (((Nasa)))
its a chinese hoax, the president of the united states himself said so

[Anonymous No.9549451]

>>9549433
Nice try, that map is geographically inaccurate despite Magellan already having navigated the ice-free (!) tip of South America in 1520 and despite the Straight even being named after him in that map. It features a presumed Antarctic continent frequently featured on maps from the area, otherwise often called Terra Australis.

[Anonymous No.9549455]

>>9549451
The strait goes through the tip of south america, which was the only way to get through cause it was sealed by ice otherwise.

Fucking brainlet.
>nice try

[Anonymous No.9549461]

>>9549455
Oh sure, there was an ice bridge but conveniently a tiny straight just off South America was ice-free, instead of the map being simply wrong because it features a non-existent continent in place of Antarctica centuries before Antarctica was first discovered.

[Anonymous No.9549464]

>>9549160
>The floods hit the geographical location where NYC currently is

[Anonymous No.9549473]

>>9549160
somebody wrote this, folks. let that sink in.

[Anonymous No.9549474]

this thread is so cute. Global warming is still a joke no one should take seriously. Funny seeing you nutso alarmists go nuts.

>oh god it's a degree warmer
>oh god the water raised a little

Not a big deal

[Anonymous No.9549479]

>>9549461
I dont know if you're being retarded or what. Why cross the strait if the point of circummavigating is going around. Earlier maps didnt even give the west americas any detail or coastlines cause they couldn't make it there by sailing east from spain.

So again, why the fuck not just go around the southern tip of south america?

[Anonymous No.9549482]

>>9549464

>patch of land that is raised slightly above sealevel

>pheomenon such as waves exist
>people lose their shit

[Anonymous No.9549483]

>>9549395
Yes, but if through oil consumption, we are gain oil, how is this in any way limited?

[Anonymous No.9549484]

>>9549474
Except it won't stop at 1 degree

[Anonymous No.9549488]

>>9549484
what time frame are we talking where I would care?

[Anonymous No.9549492]

>believing in the global warming hoax
it's cold out you imbeciles

[Anonymous No.9549496]

>>9549488
You may never see the full effects, but imagine for a second that other people in the future still have to live here, garbage patched oceans and all

[Anonymous No.9549503]

>>9549496
if they had wanted to not have shit lives maybe they should have been born earlier.
fucking lazy entitled unborn generation. what gives them the right to inherit an earth.
we're got here first, we should get to ruin the planet.

[Anonymous No.9549516]

>>9549496
what other technology and changes will exist by that point to mitigate it?

[Anonymous No.9549526]

>>9549496
>science goes out of its way to prove god doesn't exist and there's no repercussions for your deed and no meaning to anything
>please care about muh future generations
no reason to

[Anonymous No.9549555]

>>9549496
Global warming sounds more and more like the rapture.
>It's coming folks! You better believe it so give me all your shekels so Jesus can save you!

[Anonymous No.9549559]

>>9548794
not nearly as bad as you're trying to make it appear

[Anonymous No.9549562]

>>9549265
I think he's right - maybe you should leave the echo chamber.

[Anonymous No.9549565]

>>9549559
Different year. Also, OP's map shows thickness. Yours does not.

[Anonymous No.9549570]

>>9549329
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian%E2%80%93Triassic_extinction_event

[Anonymous No.9549578]

>>9548794
>all that ice melted
>literally nothing about this has impacted my life from 1984 forward
So I guess it was bullshit all along then.

[Anonymous No.9549579]

>>9549228
Isn't there some disease that's supposed to wipe out the most popular type of banana soon?

[Anonymous No.9549605]

>not being part of a climate change doomsday cult that wants the antarctic and greenland glaciers to melt so that you can study the rocks hidden underneath them without any stupid ice getting in the way

T. Geologist who doesnt live by the coast

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>>9549363
wtf i love coke now

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>>9549164
The same pattern exists if you go back even further. Starting it at 1850 is meaningless.

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>>9550957
muh conspiracy

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[Anonymous No.9550992]

all memes
What's another field of science that's held to this standard?

[Anonymous No.9550993]

>>9550981
>the end of winter
>its warm
>"this is not how winter is supposed to feel"

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[Anonymous No.9550996]

>>9549211
>what is axial tilt

[Anonymous No.9551000]

>>9550969
I have no idea whether the guy posting all this believes in conspiracies. But nothing he's posted indicates a conspiracy. Nice red herring, though.

[Anonymous No.9551006]

The debate is no longer about whether climate change exists but whether humans are the ones causing it.
We're a tiny fucking blip on the radar in terms of our greenhouse output

[Anonymous No.9551010]

Large scale climate science is a relatively (very) new field of scientific research. Hell the grand unifying theory of geology (basically the foundation of all earth science) was only discovered a couple generations ago. My profs had profs that remember when things were completely different.
This is unfair.

[Anonymous No.9551017]

>>9551000
not necessarily
it's called an accusation

[Anonymous No.9551021]

>>9549455
Incorrect, there's 2 straits.

[Anonymous No.9551022]

>>9551010
Mah 97%

[Anonymous No.9551037]

>>9551022
wtf they knew about Martian canals in 1919?
maybe these are all just bullshit

[Anonymous No.9551041]

>>9548794

do you have a satellite image comparison of this

[Anonymous No.9551054]

>>9551041

NASA destroyed it sorry

[Anonymous No.9551089]

The Earth does need a clean slate, though.

[Anonymous No.9551107]

>>9551006
There is no debate that humans are causing it either, stop lying. Humans are the only net source of CO2 on Earth. Without us CO2 concentration would be going down.

[Anonymous No.9551110]

>>9550964
>The same pattern exists if you go back even further.
Proof?

>Starting it at 1850 is meaningless.
That's the beginning of the instrumental record.

[Anonymous No.9551117]

>>9550964
>>9551110
calibrating ice core sample geochemical temperature proxies (delta 18O etc) to the instrumental record does not show the same pattern (it shows the opposite)

[Anonymous No.9551137]

>>9551110
Starting at 1850 is fucking convenient because thats the period of the industrial revolution when burning fossil fuels started to become the norm, which the graph attempts to say "oh look ever since people started doing x, y has happened" even though the truth is "y has been happening for thousands of years and there used to be an icey area north of ancient rome square in fucking europe"

[Anonymous No.9551142]

>>9551137
>heard about a couple murders on tv news last year
>figure i'd record how many murders occur this year
>over 1000 murders this year
>murder has increased from 2 to 1000 because i started recording it
>humans are the cause of increased murders

[Anonymous No.9551143]

>>9551137
The point is to show the Earth has indeed been warming since 1850. It makes no reference to human activity so you are just making up a straw man.

>the truth is "y has been happening for thousands of years and there used to be an icey area north of ancient rome square in fucking europe"
And again, I ask for proof that this rate of warming was occurring before 1850 globally. But so far none have been provided, just the typical anecdotes.

[Anonymous No.9551151]

>>9551107
so ice age averted? thank god

[Anonymous No.9551153]

>>9549212
OMFG THE OCEAN MAY BE PH 7 IN 50-100 YEARS KEK

[Anonymous No.9551160]

>>9548794

How much carbon taxes do you want to pay sir?

[Anonymous No.9551162]

>ITT cucks posting squiggly lines and numbers to try and push a Jewish agenda.
Wow /sci/ how low will you fall?

[Anonymous No.9551163]

>>9549247

So sick of this tired game.

[Anonymous No.9551167]

OK what tax rate do you pukes want?

Are we going to make a committee to decide how to manage the means of production or will we just let existing government bodies do that?

How are you going to force india and china to do any of this crap?

Oh you mean that only the western world should have to pay carbon taxes, ok great.

[Anonymous No.9551171]

>>9549482
>extreme natural events which used to happen very sparingly are now happening an order of magnitude more often, now happening on a human timescale

[Anonymous No.9551173]

>>9551167
>wah wah other countries who haven't benefited from industrialization for the last hundred years what to industilize and we have to pay to clean up the mess we made wah wah

[Anonymous No.9551180]

>>9551173
How much faggot?

[Anonymous No.9551184]

>>9551143
The old world maps of south america clearly show that the only way to get to the pacific ocean was using the strait of magellan which cuts through the tip of south america. There was no going around the tip cause it was connected to antarctica by an ice bridge. Later maps still before the industrial revolution, the ice bridge no longer existed. Theres obvious evidence that glaciers have been melting and the world getting warmer, however theres no direct correlation that burning fossil fuels had anything to do with it. Its just a natural cycle of the world.

[Anonymous No.9551194]

>>9551184

Get on the right side of history, everything is the fault of capitalism.


We have to eliminate private business and allow the government to manage the means of production world wide that way we can keep the carbon levels at a proper rate.

How are we going to get that unless people think that fossil fuels are the cause?

[Anonymous No.9551196]

>>9548794
Blocks your path...

[Anonymous No.9551199]

>>9551196
That is just /pol/ fox news propaganda.

We have to pay to clean up the mess we made!

It is their turn!

[Anonymous No.9551208]

>>9551199
I'm sick of this climate change discussion. We should be cleaning the ocean for heavy metals and pollution, so we actually can eat seafood on a regular basis. BUT NO MUH CARBONTAX!

[Anonymous No.9551235]

>>9551151
>ice age in thousands of years averted
>just ignore the next 100

[Anonymous No.9551247]

>>9551167
The tax rate has to change with the rate of carbon emissions in order to maximize savings from mitigation. Economists have already modeled this thoroughly. Look up "optimal carbon tax."

[Anonymous No.9551253]

>>9551247
We have the optimal carbon tax now.

None.

[Anonymous No.9551278]

Can we see all these photographs now in winter 2017-2018 ?

Not considering sun cycles is a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.9551279]

>>9551184
>The old world maps of south america
Old world maps are not exactly known for their accuracy. They are however known for the persistence of quacks using them for pseudoscience.

https://badarchaeology.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/old-maps-the-americas-and-antarctica/

[Anonymous No.9551281]

>>9551278
No just pay up.

[Anonymous No.9551292]

>>9551279
You try guaging the exact details of a fucking coastline by just sailing around it. Old world cartography was a miracle in and of itself they they could have even come remotely close to the shapes of continents on scales of thousands of kilometers. Oh but suddenly they can't figure out that a mile wide strait is actually thousands of miles from antarctica to south america, and despite the fact that strait still exists today.

Absolute fucking brainlet. The amount of hubris required to blame humanity much less leave it up to humanity to solve any forseen problem caused by climate change is fucking astounding, you're not even fucking smart enough to read a map let alone solve a problem.

[Anonymous No.9551294]

>>9551196
>sea ice
Land ice melting is what raises sea levels.

[Anonymous No.9551300]

>>9551253
Basically every economist disagrees with you. But I'm sure that won't stop you from believing you know everything.

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>>9551300
Well then pay up faggot.

[Anonymous No.9551317]

>>9551292
At least I'm not fucking making up ice bridges, you fringe fucking shithead.

[Anonymous No.9551328]

>>9551292
By that logic it was not cold but rather extremely hot since many maps from that period show antarctica without its ice sheet. You have no leg to stand on here.

[Anonymous No.9551329]

>>9551312
I don't see how that responds to the argument. Have you given up?

[Anonymous No.9551334]

>>9551292
>The amount of hubris required to blame humanity much less leave it up to humanity to solve any forseen problem caused by climate change is fucking astounding
Stop protecting. It takes a massive amount of hubris to ignore what all the scientific evidence is telling you and instead substitute reality with a fantasy in which humanity cannot be to blame because that would make you feel bad. You are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.9551337]

>>9551334
>You are pathetic.

You actually want people to pay taxes for breathing, that is what is pathetic.

[Anonymous No.9551347]

>>9551337
>releasing carbon from fossil deposits is the same as the human metabolism
See, this is why no one can fucking take you people seriously. You persistently display selective ignorance to spin things into whatever you want them to mean.

[Anonymous No.9551349]

>>9551347

Look just because you don't want that and because that is not being openly stated right this second does not mean that is not the end goal.

It is.

[Anonymous No.9551362]

>>9549579
bye bye banana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gros_Michel_banana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_banana

[Anonymous No.9551371]

>>9549579

oh noes!

Some sort of taxation is clearly in order.

[Anonymous No.9551375]

A floating seawall connecting Russia to Alaska would cut off surface currents and keep ice from going South and melting. Which would make arctic Ocean surface temperatures lower and expand the year round sea ice coverage.

[Anonymous No.9551382]

>>9551294
I couldn't give less shits about raising sea levels. I want my fish mercury and plastic free. Along with my drinking water. Oh wait that kind of pollution you give zero shits about.

[Anonymous No.9551392]

>>9551375
Idk about all that, but it's really deep out there. My feet can't even touch the bottom.
>>9551382
Well global warming still matters for those things. Especially drinking water but it'll affect the range/health of your fish and probably aid plastic decomposition in ocean water (not a good thing - plastic soup). Also affects ocean currents.

[Anonymous No.9551409]

>>9551349
I looked up the definition of strawman argument in a 1606 dictionary and this post was illustrated there. Imagine my shock, but the ancients were indeed all knowing.

[Anonymous No.9551412]

>>9551371
>oh noes!
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.9551517]

>>9548794

> This is fine...
...ly tuned, managed and maintained.

[Anonymous No.9551823]

>>9551196
>sea ice coverage has grown
• no mention of land ice melting
• cherry has been picked

[Anonymous No.9551825]

>>9548794
lel, is no one going to comment on how the two Earths paired side by side like that look like an ass?
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
*sniff*

[Anonymous No.9551837]

>>9548794
Meanwhile in Italy

[Anonymous No.9551845]

>>9548794
Meanwhile in Rome, Italy

[Anonymous No.9551846]

>>9549503
I take it your a virgin?

[Anonymous No.9551848]

>>9548794
First snow in Naples (Italy) since 1956

[Anonymous No.9551849]

>>9549526
Your nihilistic views do not represent all of "science" you fucking pleb.

[Anonymous No.9551850]

>>9548794
1st snow in Naples (Italy) since 1956

[Anonymous No.9551854]

>>9551848 >>9551850
Snow in Naples Italy in 2018.

The 1st snow in Naples (Italy) since 1956

[Anonymous No.9551860]

>>9549379
>all the millions of scientists are just lieing to you for no reason anon
>but i definitely know what im talking about

[Anonymous No.9551862]

>>9551848
>>9551850
>>9551854

what's going on here?

[Anonymous No.9551865]

>>9548794
Snow covering beaches of the Frech Island of Corsica, in Mediterranean Sea (Southernmost French Territory in Europe)

The photo was taken yesterday
https://www.thelocal.fr/20180227/in-pictures-snowfall-turns-corsica-into-winter-wonderland

[Anonymous No.9551870]

>>9551862

1st snow in Naples (Italy) since 1956

[Anonymous No.9551872]

>>9551865
Corsica (French Mediterranean) Yesterday (Feb 27)

[Anonymous No.9551873]

>>9551870
>europe is the same as the whole world

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>>9551865
Corsica now.

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>>9551872
that's kinda cool

[Anonymous No.9551881]

>>9551876 >>9551872 >>9551865
For people wondering where Corsica is

Corsica is a Island in Mediterranean Sea located between Rome (Italy) and Marseilles (South France)

[Anonymous No.9551883]

>>9551880
Snow in a Mediterranean Island.

[Anonymous No.9551884]

>>9551881
https://www.livescience.com/61864-arctic-temperatures-record-high.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/28/europe-is-so-cold-now-that-the-arctic-appears-to-be-a-warm-escape/?utm_term=.aa1cdd31cae5
its warmer in the artic than it is in the uk!

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[Anonymous No.9551891]

>>9551884

Naples is blanketed in heaviest snow for 50 years | Daily Mail Online
>First Rome... now Naples is blanketed in snow as the Mediterranean city is 'whitewashed' by its heaviest downfall in 50 years
>Naples has seen its heaviest snow in half a century as a blast of Siberian weather continued to send temperatures plunging across Europe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440321/Naples-blanketed-heaviest-snow-50-years.html

[Anonymous No.9551893]

>>9551881
>A single weather event proves climate change wrong

[Anonymous No.9551897]

>>9551884
In Pictures: Corsica's beaches covered in blanket of snow
>On Tuesday, residents of Ajaccio on the French Mediterranean island of Corsica woke up to some 15 centimetres of snow on the beach, something not seen since 1986.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20180227/in-pictures-snowfall-turns-corsica-into-winter-wonderland

[Anonymous No.9551908]

>>9551893
>single event
>single

US shivers amid record-breaking low temperatures (Jan 6 2018)
>North America's East Coast is shivering in a record-breaking freeze in the wake of a deadly "bomb cyclone" that dumped snow as far south as Florida.
>In parts of US and Canada, temperatures were forecast to fall below -20F (-29C), with wind chill making it feel more like -90F (-67C) on Friday night.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42576978

[Anonymous No.9551923]

>>9551897
>jeez i wondering what is causing this unusual weather patterns? exxcon mobile said it had nothing to do with global warming

[Anonymous No.9551927]

>>9551891
>daily mail
>daily
>mail

[Anonymous No.9551932]

so what we are seeing is nice pics of snow but no actual evidence to contradict GLOBAL warming as in the average temperature for the year across the globe

[Anonymous No.9551933]

>>9551923
>warming causes freezing

So by your logic if I heat up my house burning wood in my Fireplace it must cool down instead of heating up?

[Anonymous No.9551940]

>>9551933
no actually its the AVERAGE temperature across the globe for the YEAR

anyway right now the artic is warmer than europe. so how do you explain that?

[Anonymous No.9551943]

my constant depression and feeling of hopelessness is somehow soothed by pictures like this letting me know everyone is fucked anyway

[Anonymous No.9551951]

>>9551927
>Note: BBC = British Broadcast Channel not Big Black Cock

BBC: Italy freezes
>Much of Europe has been blanketed in snow as cold weather spreads as far south as the Mediterranean coast.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43218229

[Anonymous No.9551954]

>>9551943
it sucks even more that we will all be old people when this shit becomes serious. we will be the ones not able to fend for ourselves

[Anonymous No.9551955]

>>9551908
mongoloid

[Anonymous No.9551961]

>>9551292
>throwing a tantrum because it turns out that the old maps you based your entire argument on aren't actually reliable
how did you survive learning that there aren't actually sea monsters around the edges?

[Anonymous No.9551962]

>>9551927


CNN - Rome covered in snow as temperatures plummet in Europe
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/26/europe/rome-europe-cold-weather-intl/index.html

>Note: CNN is Cable News Network not Cuck News Network

[Anonymous No.9551966]

>>9551955
Snow in Vatican

>Look it's the Global Warming!
>It's HOTTER than ever!
>The cold is an ILLUSION
>The cold is just YOUR IMAGINATION
>GLOBAL WARMING IS REEEEAL

[Anonymous No.9551967]

>>9551966
go to bed bp

[Anonymous No.9551969]

>>9549333
Glaciers are permanent features unless the Earth heats up. Under normal conditions they do not retreat in summer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za5wpCo0Sqg

[Anonymous No.9551971]

>>9551955
>The SNOW is an ILLUSION.
>Global Warming deniers are crazy people.
>The COLD is JUST IMAGINATION
>The Europe will turn into a Desert
>Venice will be underwater in 5, 10, 15, 20 years! (25, 30, 35 years (40, 45, 50 years))

[Anonymous No.9551973]

>>9551966
cognitive dissonance you have is amazing
what your doing is using one time when its cold as evidence that its cold all the time everywhere. the retarded thing is your too dumb to realise thats what your doing and all you can do is post pics of where it snowed today

[Anonymous No.9551978]

>>9551955
>Venice will be underwater in 2020
>I'd said 2025
>Oh wait my calculations predict 2030
>Venice will be underwater this time in 2035
>I'm sure that will be underwater in 2040
>Please stop CO2 before Venice is underwater in 2045!!!!
>This time is reeeeeal. Venice underwater in 2050!

[Anonymous No.9551981]

>>9551865
I have a question for you. Let's say I'm planning a trip to Florida next year for two weeks starting October 15th. What's the weather going to be starting October 15th for two weeks in Florida?

[Anonymous No.9551984]

>>9551978
god your stupid

[Anonymous No.9551989]

>>9551908
Meanwhile
https://thinkprogress.org/alaska-hottest-december-1e4effce0ad1/

[Anonymous No.9551992]

>>9551984
Floods in Venice happens since Medieval Times

[Anonymous No.9551994]

>>9551989

[Anonymous No.9552002]

>>9551992
https://europeforvisitors.com/venice/articles/acqua-alta.htm
>Already, the frequency of acqua alta has increased from fewer than 10 times a year to more than 60 times a year in the last century

also venice had flooding do to other human interference like extracting ground water and also the lagoon is dammed to protect it from rising sea levels

[Anonymous No.9552003]

>>9551845
>weather

[Anonymous No.9552010]

>>9552003
>Hotter Climate = Colder Weather

[Anonymous No.9552015]

>>9552010
your way too stupid to know how that might work. dont you have a oil leak to go clean up?

[Anonymous No.9552017]

>>9551933
>it's unintuitive therefore I can ignore scientific facts
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2016/dec/19/arctic-ice-melt-already-affecting-weather-patterns-where-you-live-right-now

[Anonymous No.9552022]

>>9551971
>my hand gets colder as my drink melts
>checkmate scientists
How much of your brainpower does it take to remember to breathe?

[Anonymous No.9552023]

>>9552003
>Coldest winter = Proves Global Warming

>Colder Temperatures = Proves Global Warming
>Hotter Temperatures = Proves Global Warming
>Normal Temperatures = Proves Global Warming
>Any Temperatures = Proves Global Warming

>Snow Storm = Proves Global Warming
>Droughts = Proves Global Warming
>Frost = Proves Global Warming
>Floods = Proves Global Warming
>Hail = Proves Global Warming
>Fires = Proves Global Warming
>Ice growth in Antartica = Proves Global Warming

[Anonymous No.9552024]

>>9551994
So Florida getting cold counters Alaska getting hot?

[Anonymous No.9552026]

>>9552010
Hotter climate = hotter weather, on average

Ice melting = surrounding area getting colder

It's not that hard, moron

[Anonymous No.9552027]

Snow in Sicily Is. (South Italy)

[Anonymous No.9552029]

>>9552023
Look at this point list of strawmen. Impressive. Now show me that you can go poo in the potty.

[Anonymous No.9552032]

>>9552023
literally only larpers say shit like that

[Anonymous No.9552034]

>>9552026
>So Global Warming will make the World colder and cause Glaciation

[Anonymous No.9552040]

>>9551992
>lol you predicted that Venice would be underwater and it's not
>oh wait, it is?
>yeah, so what? Venice is underwater all the time, big deal.

[Anonymous No.9552224]

>>9551961
>the map is wrong because they couldn't sail around the tip of south america so they had to sail through it
Really boils my beans
They made it around the tip of africa just fine. They circumnavigated islands too. They could squeeze through the mediterranean to the ocean but no, south america is special, they just had to go through it cause a tip smaller than italy for some reasom wrapped around the entire lower southern hemisphere. Makes so much sense. Lots of sense is being made here, great deduction skills. Better fucking cite a goddamn wordpress blog post with 8 reblogs. May as well just fucking source tumblr while you're at it.

We go multiple maps that show no way to get to the pacific ocean sailing west from europe before the strait of magellan but somehow i'm the one who is denying "facts".

How come dey didnt just go sail round da tip of south america???? Wuz dey dumb??? Like uh HELLO, theres OBVIOUSLY no ice bridge there! Ice doesnt melt that fast even though this fucking thread is literally chock full of mountain sized glaciers disappearing in only a century.

S u b h u m a n tbph [math]F \, A \, M[/math]
You fuckers dont even register on the conciousness scale. I bet you fail the fucking mirror test.

[Anonymous No.9552228]

>>9552023 >>9552003
So hot weather & fires in California (which happens every year) are evidences for global warming

But when the weather is cold & there are snow in Italy (which is very rare) aren't evidences against global warming

[Anonymous No.9552230]

>>9552023 >>9552003
So hot weather & fires in California (which happens every year) are evidences for global warming

But when the weather is cold & there are snowstorms in Italy (which are very rare) aren't evidences against global warming

[Anonymous No.9552251]

This is fine, it happens all the time. Nothing to worry about, just vote republican.

[Anonymous No.9552254]

>>9551337
>breathing
Breathing is carbon-neutral unless you eat coal. We should tax people who fart too much though.

[Anonymous No.9552288]

This is your ultimatum if you seriously wish to believe that climate change is caused by people:
World War 3

That simple.
If the western world suddenly decided to team up in ultraliberalism of enforcing change to energy sources for m-muh environment, it is now their responsibility to insure societies around the world ban fossil fuels too, where the only obvious way to actually insure this is simply genociding brown foreigners in shitty comparatively dirty-energy countries. Theres only about a billion people on this planet that live in countries that support liberal ideologies and also validate as "the west", so there will have to be a lot of dead chinks and arabs and latinos to purge the world of their dirty fossil fuel usage which constitutes 6/7ths of all fossil fuel usage. Oh you thought all it would take is the west cutting back and that'd save the world? That is only 1/7th of the world! Not even close to half! Not even close to scratching the surface of this problem you call man-made climate change. No, you have to force foreigners to fuck off from using fuels, which i'm sure they'll gladly defend with their lives in battle if their ultimatum is going back to riding horses and walking cause they're too poor to afford a fucking Tesla.

The most ironic part is that the required bleeding heart liberals to make this western front against fossil fuels a reality is that they're too pussy retarded to go to war.

Theres no functional reason to believe you can combat this concept of manmade climate change short of nuking china and waking up dead tomorrow after everyone hits their killswitch and blows up every major populated city on earth.

[Anonymous No.9552315]

>>9552288
This

But will China be in which side?
China produces many times more carbon than US.
EU accuses US, but never China

Will EU team up with China?

[Anonymous No.9552324]

>>9552315
EU will team up with the middle east.

[Anonymous No.9552327]

>>9551823
No it hasn't you delusional prick.

[Anonymous No.9552348]

>>9552324
Middle East is never accused. MidEast produces a lot of Oil.

But I never seen a Greenpeace protest in Saudi Arabia to stop Oil Production.

I never seen a Feminist fighting for Woman rights in Middle East.

I never seen an Atheist going to Middle East and telling them that Allah don't exist.

I never seen a Homosexual going to Middle East, then defending Gay Marriage there.

[Anonymous No.9552370]

>>9552348
Yeah, because those people aren't suicidal.

[Anonymous No.9552376]

>>9549205
If they don't then the vast majority of normalfags will die because most humans live by the coast.

[Anonymous No.9552381]

>>9548794
Laughing_Russians.jgp

[Anonymous No.9552382]

>>9549247
Retarded blame deflecting Euro, your public cares no more about the climate than the Americans do. People like you should be banned from /sci/ for your /intpol/ retardation.

[Anonymous No.9552386]

>>9549329
Those rocks killed because they made the climate drop.

[Anonymous No.9552393]

>>9550993
>February
>Literally the dead of winter
>"The end of winter"

[Anonymous No.9552398]

>>9551167
>muh taxes

Why is this argument so convenient to use against climate change yet zero shits are given when corporations get ridiculous tax breaks and ever widen the gap of wealth in the western world? Why are people so against their own best interests yet completely fine with getting fucked in the ass by corporate interests? Financial corruption is fucking RAMPANT in western society RIGHT NOW but yeah it’s always some fucking hidden Jewish agenda to want a cleaner greener earth cause your fat faggot ass is too lazy to ride a bicycle somewhere instead of driving a gas guzzling shitbox or turn off your fucking ac when you’re not home

God you’re all fucking dumb fucks and I’m glad your brainlet children will live in a shittier world than it already is

[Anonymous No.9552442]

>>9551862
A freakish heatwave in the arctic has unleashed a blizzard across Europe. People don't realize the freak storms in Europe are due to a warmer arctic. If you want to put it as simplistically as possible, imagine someone's air conditioner has broken and is now leaking on the neighbor's garden.

[Anonymous No.9552449]

>>9551966
It's not global warming faggot, it's called climate change and it's fucking happening. Wether it's man made or not, who the fuck knows.

[Anonymous No.9552485]

>>9548817
>more solar radiation getting absorbed by dark oceans and raisin water temperatures.
awesome, the beaches near me would be great about 5 degrees hotter

[Anonymous No.9552501]

>>9548794
And yet at the same time antarctica had record high ice levels

[Anonymous No.9552504]

>>9552485
Have fun in algae, jellyfish and squid filled waters.

[Anonymous No.9552506]

>>9552449
Drought happens = Climate Change™
Flood happens = Climate Change™
Year without large snow storm = Climate Change™
Year with multiple large snow storms = Climate Change™
Temperature is above average = Climate Change™
Temperature is below average = Climate Change™

Does the word unfalsifiable mean anything to you?

[Anonymous No.9552513]

Climate alarmists, what's the ideal temperature for life on earth?
Why I am supposed to assume the ideal is slightly less than what we currently have and not slightly higher?
How do you know the cost of adapting to global warming won't be cheaper than the cost of trying to prevent it?

[Anonymous No.9552514]

>>9552506
You have this imaginary target in your mind that you would go out of your way to obsess over and make yourself upset because you'd rather be angry and misinformed than to actually study the area and stop being small minded.

[Anonymous No.9552518]

>>9552514
Thinking you can read your opponent's mind is a sign you've lost the argument and been triggered into cognitive dissonance anon.

[Anonymous No.9552526]

>>9552518
That's ironic because you're assuming that's what I'm thinking.

[Anonymous No.9552528]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw

[Anonymous No.9552533]

>>9552514
So I'm the one imagining things? That's rich.

[Anonymous No.9552538]

Climate change is the reason for the instability in the mid - east.

you really think WMD or 'not isis!' would cause the US to go a TRILLION MORE into debt ?

these people in syria, iraq, egypt, etc are all losing GDP from fucking no damn crops growing

[Anonymous No.9552541]

>>9552526
>That's ironic because you're assuming that's what I'm thinking.
No I'm not. The entire sentence you posted is you summarizing the inner thoughts and emotions of a guy you've never even seen a picture of. Mind reading is not a thing.

[Anonymous No.9552545]

>>9552533

[Anonymous No.9552549]

>>9552538
How do bad crops yields make the US decide they need to invade the ME?

[Anonymous No.9552552]

>>9552545

[Anonymous No.9552554]

[Anonymous No.9552556]

uh oh, the denialist retard is here with his imagedump. Well, it was an ok thread while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.9552560]

>>9552549

So fucking bad that the crop growers start protesting in the street: arab spring

the government isnt giving them ANY Subsidies. and guess what else? those countries have no other income besides crops.

Tourism? who the fuck wants to take a vacation in cairo or anywhere else when ur hotel can be blown up by isis any day rofl

[Anonymous No.9552563]

>>9552556
>denialist
Nice Newspeak anon

[Anonymous No.9552566]

>>9552552
Just stop mate, I know they've been posted several times on pol and some weird blogs.

>>9552541
That wasn't mind reading, I've been in pol long enough to see this shit over and over again. To the lesser folk anything different seems like magic, so I understand.

[Anonymous No.9552578]

>>9552560
>So fucking bad that the crop growers start protesting in the street: arab spring
OK, why does that make the US want to invade, and why did they invade 10 and 20 years before that?
Also can you actually give data showing that crop yields have decreased?

[Anonymous No.9552594]

>>9552566
>that wasn't mind reading, I've just been in pol long enough to read minds
>you doubt my ability because you are dumb

[Anonymous No.9552602]

>>9549168
>>9549170
>>9549173
>>9549184
>>9549188
>>9549190
>>9549192
>>9549200
Ice is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.9552606]

>>9552594
I don't have any respect or patience for poltards.

Sorry not sorry.

>>9552602
Under what context?

[Anonymous No.9552612]

>>9552606
That's not the point, the point is you lost the argument.

[Anonymous No.9552618]

>>9552612
Lel sure. Whatever makes you happy.

[Anonymous No.9552762]

>>9549379
Ah yes its much more likely you are a wizard who has scryed the truth of the matter and has to fight against the evil non profit conspiracy involving 10s of thousands of people than it is you are a fucking retard. Nevermind all of the work thats been done in strategic forecasting and planning directly related to climate change by virtually every nation of any means.

[Anonymous No.9552763]

>>9549483
AMERICA EVERYONE!

[Anonymous No.9552774]

>>9552370

[Anonymous No.9552779]

>>9548794

[Anonymous No.9552786]

>>9552393
>march
>winter

[Anonymous No.9552839]

>>9552513
It isn't really about that.

>How do you know the cost of adapting to global warming won't be cheaper than the cost of trying to prevent it?
You could be right. The problem is that right now too many countries are doing NOTHING.
Reversing what we have caused in the near (hundred years) future may not be possible but there is no harm in reducing emissions because if we are going to accept we are causing it then we should at least try to be in control of it.

The problem is that a large portion of our world population is near shorelines. It was convenient for us to build cities there. Rising sea levels could definitely bring infrastructure and property issues in the coming decades. We need to start dealing with this as soon as possible but many countries are dragging their feet on even accepting global warming.

Current prime farmland could become desert, California is still in a massive drought if I am remembering right. For a lot of farmers their farms are their livelihood. They can't up and move unless they can sell their farm but they won't be able to sell it if you can't farm there anymore. Maybe there needs to be policy made so that the government can take these farmers and move them over there.

There's mitigation we could be looking at now, that would be good to do even if the worst case scenarios don't happen but instead they're doing basically nothing. Wasting time on things like fucking carbon credits.

Whose fucking idea was carbon credits anyway? It's just shifting money around and paying to pollute. I seem to recall in the greatest irony the carbon credits got so cheap that it was cheaper to buy them than it was to implement carbon reducing measures.

[Anonymous No.9552842]

>>9552786
Vernal Equinox is 20 March, retard

[Anonymous No.9552957]

>>9548797
>water rises 1m
>like, 1 more typhoon per year in 3rd world shitholes, such as florida, texas or SEA
>some irrelevant meme animals go extinct
Whoa, how will humanity ever recover?

>>9548802
>new york underwater
Wtf, I love global warming now. Brb going out to burn a can of fuel oil.

[Anonymous No.9552969]

>>9552957
Global warming actually doesn't lead to more typhoons. The stronger winds at high altitudes actually kills a lot of the weaker storms.

But the big storms get bigger.

[Anonymous No.9552980]

>>9552957
If you don't understand climate, why are you in a climate change thread? Just to flaunt how stupid you are?

[Anonymous No.9553039]

>>9552034
>So Global Warming will make the World colder
No. If all you're going to do is make up straw men then you've lost the argument.

[Anonymous No.9553041]

>>9552230
>So hot weather & fires in California (which happens every year) are evidences for global warming
Stop lying you scum.

[Anonymous No.9553052]

>>9552224
You are a certified idiot. The reason no one initially went east around South America is because both the wind and the current in that area are flowing westward (which would be impossible of there was an ice bridge blocking the current). But they did manage to do it in 1616, only 10 years after your bogus ice bridge appeared on a single map. Get fucked.

[Anonymous No.9553066]

>>9552513
>Climate alarmists, what's the ideal temperature for life on earth?
Whatever causes the least harm to humans and the ecosystems/infrastructure we rely on.

>Why I am supposed to assume the ideal is slightly less than what we currently have and not slightly higher?
See above.

>How do you know the cost of adapting to global warming won't be cheaper than the cost of trying to prevent it?
Because economists agree that it won't. Any more questions?

[Anonymous No.9553075]

>>9548794
Who cares about CGI?

[Anonymous No.9553079]

>>9552554
>I learned everything I know about climate science from a Dilbert comic that first even understand how model ensembles work
Jesus Christ you are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.9553086]

>>9548797
>Having kids

Lol, good one.

[Anonymous No.9553091]

>>9549274
Learn to read cuck. Climate change is real but there's not enough evidence to suggest its man made.

[Anonymous No.9553092]

>>9552839
Want to reduce CO2? Stop breathing Faggot.

[Anonymous No.9553099]

>>9549555
Even godless people need to believe in apocalyptic fairy tales.

[Anonymous No.9553128]

>>9553091
So which of these is not enough evidence?

1. Radiative spectroscopy shows that the change in incoming heat received from CO2 is about the same as the net change in incoming heat received by the Earth.

2. Humans are the only net source of CO2 on Earth. Natural sinks absorb more CO2 than natural sources.

[Anonymous No.9553158]

bump

[Anonymous No.9553275]

[Anonymous No.9553313]

We should start making lists of people who opposed anti-climate change measures, so once the world starts turning uninhabitable, we can blacklist those people and their offspring from underground/space habitats.

[Anonymous No.9553323]

>this retarded italian ITT who thinks that extreme weather patterns have nothing to do with climate change

The fucking irony.

[Anonymous No.9553386]

>>9553323
He's not even Italian, he's just grasping at whatever nonsense he can come up with. It's pathetic. Despite being shown that the cold weather front is due to Arctic melting, he still spams pictures as if he is proving something.

[Anonymous No.9553403]

>>9548794
I am okay with the events that are unfolding recently.

[Anonymous No.9553435]

I've managed to convince few people that unless we ban co2 this weather will be just the start and things will get worse with each year.

What have you done to fight climate change, /sci/?

[Anonymous No.9553440]

>>9553435
I don't drive, I only take the bus
I haven't bought new clothes or anything manufactured in ages

[Anonymous No.9553491]

>>9553435
>ban co2
This would be more harmful than simply making it more expensive.

[Anonymous No.9553515]

>>9549379
>>9549455
>>9549479
>>9551184
>>9551292
>>9552224
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Horn

Cape Horn was discovered in 1616 by Willem Schouten when he sailed around it. At that time it was known as the most treacherous passage in the world, which is why it was only navigated late. Your map simply made up an ice bridge in a spot that was only seen for the first time 10 years later. Admit it you fucking crackpot.

[Anonymous No.9553546]

>>9551849
Your views full of meaning are not scientific at all.

[How can she slap??? No.9553563]

How much did sea level change due to the ice change shown here?

[Anonymous No.9553565]

Just stop eating meat

/thread

[Anonymous No.9553590]

>>9553565
Animal agriculture is only a small portion of GHG emissions.

[Anonymous No.9553615]

>>9553565 >>9553590
Stop Air travel
/thread

[Anonymous No.9553620]

>>9553275
>>9553158
It snows in the Sicilian mountains pretty much every year (and a lot too). There are even two (shitty) ski resorts on the island.

[Anonymous No.9553631]

>>9553565 >>9553590 >>9553615
Cut Natural Gas Pipelines to EU.
Stopping EU's heating during Winter
oh ... wait.

You Europeans don't wanna freeze to death right?
You know. Russia can cut down Natural gas pipelines

But Heating releases carbon. People dying in Winter = Less People = Less CO2 emissions, right?

[Anonymous No.9553662]

>>9553615
Why air travel specifically? Just make anything that emits GHGs more expensive. That will lower consumption.

[Anonymous No.9553987]

>>9553092
Or I could stop your breathing.

[Anonymous No.9554297]

>>9548794
Really good news!
Weather heats up, deaths drop.
https://web.stanford.edu/~moore/HealthBenefitsofWarmer.html

[Anonymous No.9554337]

>>9554297
Too bad about 5 million people die every year due to air pollution from fossil fuels. Otherwise that might actually be relevant.

[Anonymous No.9554367]

>>9554337
>due to air pollution
more like due to poverty, bad nutrition and no drinking water.

[Anonymous No.9554372]

>>9554367
No, more like due to air pollution from fossil fuels.

[Anonymous No.9554432]

>/sci/ board
>still full of climate deniers

[Anonymous No.9554812]

>>9552224
who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.9554817]

>>9552398

[Anonymous No.9554841]

>>9553066
but economists start with the assumption that 2% inflation for all eternity is "optimal"

[Anonymous No.9555183]

[Anonymous No.9555499]

>>9549212
What kind of retard made this graph and decided to separate the X axis?

[Anonymous No.9555558]

>>9554841
https://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/09/economist-explains-7