/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9548218]

>global warming exis-

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/world/europe/rome-snow.amp.html

[Anonymous No.9548220]

kill yourself brainlet

[Anonymous No.9548223]

>>9548218
Kill yourself brainlet

[Anonymous No.9548226]

>>9548218
The Arctic is leaking
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=14.39,68.78,671/loc=14.073,74.206

[Anonymous No.9548230]

>local fluctuations are representative of the global mean
k

[Anonymous No.9548233]

>>9548220
>>9548223
>>9548226
>>9548230
>sci actually belives in the climate change jew

/pol/ here. Kill YOURselves

[Anonymous No.9548235]

>>9548233
You claim to hate jews but you'll believe whatever the Koch brothers or fox news tells you to?

[Anonymous No.9548240]

>>9548233

kek
>>9548226
is a live weather map
seeing is believing

[Anonymous No.9548245]

>>9548235
Not to mention /theirguy/.

[Anonymous No.9548250]

>>9548245
They only hate the jews when it's convenient. Otherwise they're "white and based" because they happen to align to /pol/'s opinion. Despite the fact they could be acting as subversive agents by /pol/'s own logic.
And yes, /pol/ is one person, thanks for asking.

[Anonymous No.9548254]

>>9548218
I don't know if this is bait or you're just too braindead to understand climate is not simple and linear

[Anonymous No.9548275]

>>9548218
It's blazing hot in Europe right now Goyim. Hotter than Ever.
The snow & cold in Italy are just an Illusion, it's your imagination Goyim.
Now pay your Carbon taxes (except India & China)

[Anonymous No.9548282]

>>9548226
As someone who loves frigid temperatures, snow blizzards and storms, I welcome this change. Global warming can't happen soon enough

[Anonymous No.9548285]

>Confirmation Bias based on anecdotal evidence

It's sad that this thread pushed other thread out. We really need to think about ways to improve /sci/

[Anonymous No.9548286]

>>9548250
>And yes, /pol/ is one person, thanks for asking.
Ha! Finally, an emergent consciousness out of a collection of shitposts. That nobel is going one way, baby. Better not try to tack on some gooks who were doing "parallel research."

[Anonymous No.9548289]

>>9548275
Ok mr. unbiased and unpolitical scientist. Shall we also send billions of $ to 3rd world shitholes to help them cope?

[Anonymous No.9548293]

Climate scientists predicted in the 1990s the planet would be like venus by now

Funny how their predictions dont come true and always change

[Anonymous No.9548296]

>>9548286 >>9548285 >>9548289 >>9548293
It's funny that now Mass media is saying that the cold & snow in Italy was caused by Arctic (((warming))).

Lmao.

[Anonymous No.9548301]

>>9548296
it's funny how italy usually never gets snow

[Anonymous No.9548311]

>>9548301
This is officially top 3 most retarded sentences I've read on /sci/.
Is this one of the burger delusions that Italy = Sicily, I'm genuinely trying to understand. Italy has fucking Alps, no snow my ass.

[Anonymous No.9548313]

>>9548296
Is it global or arctic warming then? Can these (((scientists))) make up their made already?

[Anonymous No.9548318]

>>9548311
I'm so painfully ashamed of my countrymen. It just has to be an American, though.

>checks 311

[Anonymous No.9548322]

Old biz here how can we make money off this? Can we trade carbon credits or something?

[Anonymous No.9548327]

>>9548311
Rome isn't in Alps.

Alps are further North in Italy's border with Switzerland and Austria.

Rome is in the Middle. Sicily is in the South.

[Anonymous No.9548328]

What I never understood about the Jewish global warming conspiracy is; wouldn't that hurt profits for the elite Jewish overlords that control the energy sector?

[Anonymous No.9548330]

>>9548282
Once the big freezer has lost its albedo, there won't be this amount of cold to spare.
Enjoy while you can.

[Anonymous No.9548331]

>>9548330
>albedo
Sounds delicious.

[Anonymous No.9548333]

>>9548313
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=14.39,68.78,671/loc=14.073,74.206

[Anonymous No.9548339]

>>9548331
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[Anonymous No.9548343]

>>9548328
Jews own oil companies. Yet Jews fund environmentalists ironically with the profits of the oil companies owned by (((them)))selves.

Why they do that?

I guess that CO2 is tied tightly with the Industrial production.
If you generate manufacture goods you have to generate CO2 as result.
Taxing CO2 is an indirect way to tax Industrial production.
By taxing heavily Western Industry, West can't compete well with the China & India's low prices.

[Anonymous No.9548346]

>>9548339
Can you teach how to make rainbow gay color on Latex senpai?

[Anonymous No.9548347]

>>9548339
Niggers, probably.

[Anonymous No.9548350]

>>9548339
wizard

[Anonymous No.9548354]

>>9548346
right-click >> show math as >> tex commands

[Anonymous No.9548360]

>>9548354
thanks senpai.

[Anonymous No.9548365]

>>9548327
Thank you fellow redditor for that pointless explanation!
If you only weren't a nigger and could read the conversation chain.

[Anonymous No.9548376]

>>9548330
By that time i'll be dead anyways, so frankly my dear I don't give a damn

[Anonymous No.9548383]

>>9548365
Snowfalls are rare and highly unusual in Rome.
Snow didn't fall every year in Rome.
The last snowfall was 6 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MMiFR4JywA

[Anonymous No.9548396]

>>9548376
didn't know septuagenarians read 4chan

[Anonymous No.9548404]

>>9548365
haha! dumbass

[Anonymous No.9548406]

>>9548330 >>9548396
20 years ago It was predicted that New York would be underwater 10 years later.

Nothing happened. Summer is hot & wnter is cold as usual. Arctic melt in summer then freezes again in Winter.

Alarmists and scare mongers should shill less & stop spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous No.9548443]

>>9548218
>gulf stream

SHUT DOWN

Seriously though, how fucked would all of Europe be if the Gulf stream changed course?

[Anonymous No.9548460]

>>9548406
>2018 a 4chan shitposter predicted a miracle would happen and this trend would magically change

[Anonymous No.9548470]

>>9548443
>gulf stream shut down

This is why we need net neutrality.

[Anonymous No.9548493]

>>9548285
>We really need to think about ways to improve /sci/
I mean, keeping /pol/ in /pol/ would cause an immediate improvement in the quality of /sci/

>>9548293
[citation needed]
You know deniers are full of shit because they have to invent strawmen to beat. You never seem to see them arguing against a prediction that climatologists actually made...

[Anonymous No.9548499]

>>9548460 >>9548383
20 years ago It was predicted by Al Gore (Bill Clinton's Vice President) that New York would be underwater 10 years later.

Al Gore is a high rank left wing US politician not a 4chan shitposter.

[Anonymous No.9548500]

>>9548293
>always change

[Anonymous No.9548505]

>>9548499
learn to read, idiot

[Anonymous No.9548517]

>>9548500
>Predictions never chan--

[Anonymous No.9548535]

>>9548517
yes, the 3% of scientists exist...
so what?

[Anonymous No.9548556]

>>9548517
>Warns Hare: "I don't believe
that the world's present population is sustainable if there are more than three years like 1972 in a row."

Only 1972 was fine and they are morons. The only thing that happened was the Russian did a shit job with grains. Farming skyrocketed from 1970 onward. Russian had to buy grain for the USA to support their people and cattle. The latter of which they had an explosion of farming, but relied to heavily on their grain without any sort of buffer.

[Anonymous No.9548565]

>>9548517
>Time Magazine
Try again retard.

[Anonymous No.9548583]

>>9548396
>winters won't be a thing within the next 50-60 years
wow you truly are RETARDED

[Anonymous No.9548590]

>>9548443
Northern US and Canada deal with harsh winters every single year. Don't know why you think we would be "fucked up" by it.

[Anonymous No.9548596]

>>9548583
you're retarded if you think you'll live to 130

[Anonymous No.9548610]

>>9548289
That "send them money" policy was proposed seeing how a lot of third world shitholes will only get shittier. The middle east already imports half their caloric intake and they've built dams all over the place to divert the little glacier water there is to farming and consumption, while those developing shitholes are usually the ones that go full carbon and oil because they can't afford cleaner and cheaper ways to produce the power they have to double each year. So, let them be or even ban them from building power plants, you'll get droves of immigrants. You think Europe's refugee problems are big now? Imagine that but world wide and with bigger numbers.
Shilling clean development projects is cheaper and more sustainable than building walls and training militias to fight the immigrants.

[Anonymous No.9548623]

>>9548610
>That "send them money" policy was proposed seeing how a lot of third world shitholes will only get shittier.

[Anonymous No.9548632]

>>9548623
While I'd love government to stop funding gibs and welfare and dump it all on research or infrastructure, SpaceX won't solve the demographics side of the global warming.
Want a better world? develop Africa, that'll drop their growth rate overnight. It doesn't even have to be "send them food", it's been demonstrated that food aid destroyed most of the local food producing capabilities.

[Anonymous No.9548677]

>>9548590
Farming will be shit for a while until they get more cold hardy cultivares. Spain's greanhouse sea will get far far larger than it is now. Food prices will skyrocket for a while. That's just 1 thing. It just depends on how long the growing season will be after that.

[Anonymous No.9548683]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_phosphorus

Why isn't this discussed?

[Anonymous No.9548698]

>>9548632
A lot of people don't seem to understand this. For the human race to advance, third world countries (mostly Africa) need to advance too with the help of first world countries.
Yes, we have established that third world countries have lower IQ. /pol/ loves to circulate videos that show mass immigration is terrible in the long term (which is true), but they don't do anything with that information besides "muh high IQ better than urs shitskin, u need 2 go back". Finding a solution is complex and going to be expensive, but I'm pretty sure not helping them develop is terrible in the long term also. Not even mentioning that developing Africa will actually raise their overall IQ over time.

[Anonymous No.9548702]

>>9548632
>We send food to areas affected by drought because they won't be able to grow as food.
>drought continues (at this point without aid many people would try migrating and most would die)
>We decide to keep sending aid until drought is over
>Drought caused by centuries of 1st world countries burning fossil fuels
>1st world /pol/fag "muh muney"

[Anonymous No.9548710]

>>9548245
I honestly could be a brainlet, but how can Trump not be bought? Like how do they rule out an actual businessman as not being bought by "the powers that be"?This is a genuine question btw, I'm not even baiting.

[Anonymous No.9548713]

>>9548230
>accurately measuring global temperature

K

[Anonymous No.9548714]

>>9548710
don't be silly, the chosen one is obviously incorruptible

[Anonymous No.9548731]

>>9548713
what if the same method and quality of instruments have been used for the last 100 years at exactly the same places to make those measurements and they all have been reporting higher temperatures overall, even with their calibration checked?

[Anonymous No.9548738]

>>9548713
https://skepticalscience.com/surface-temperature-measurements-advanced.htm

[Anonymous No.9548776]

Global warming causes colder weather

t. scientists

[Anonymous No.9548808]

>>9548776
https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-cold-weather.htm

[Anonymous No.9548840]

>>9548296
>it's getting so hot, we're freezing!
climate science everyone

[Anonymous No.9548853]

>>9548776
So will warming cause ice age?

it does not make sense.

[Anonymous No.9548869]

>>9548218
>The cold front has struck Europe as the Arctic is experiencing record heat, with repeated readings above freezing in the dead of winter.

[Anonymous No.9548881]

>>9548296 >>9548776 >>9548840 >>9548853
Climate science is now more Political Ideology than Science

[Anonymous No.9548893]

>>9548218
>>9548853
>>9548881
>global warming? pah, look how cold it is right now in these inhabited human cities!

[Anonymous No.9548898]

>>9548698
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[Anonymous No.9548907]

>1980s+
We're heading for a massive ice age!

>2000s+
We're heading for large scale warming!

>2010+

We're heading for climate change! Anything goes!

Smart people: You've just been measuring the weather all this time dumb fucks and making ridiculously useless predictions

[Anonymous No.9548949]

>>9548907

>We're heading for a massive ice age!
>>9548535

>warming, climate change!

Think of a bath tub with water. Height of water at a certain spot is analogous to the temperature at a certain spot on earth.

Global warming = average height of water
Climate change = how splashy the surface is

the terms aren't conflicting, you can have a local cold snap even if there is a faucet pouring more water into the tub, raising the global average water level.

[Anonymous No.9548983]

>>9548949
>the terms aren't conflicting, you can have a local cold snap even if there is a faucet pouring more water into the tub, raising the global average water level.

All you're doing is describing how the weather works.

Do you know it's practically impossible to measure global temperature? You would have to measure every nook and cranny of the earth to get an accurate temperature. It's a complete fraud to call it an average global temperature.

[Anonymous No.9548996]

>>9548983
most of the places where measurement has been taking place for a century and a half have all been reporting higher temperatures consistently, are you proposing that the exact places not covered by any of those stations have been getting cooler at the same rate as the measured ones have been getting hotter? because that's the only scenario in which temperatures would be stable on average, but then of course you'd have to explain why some specific places have been getting hotter and other places have been getting colder for no reason

[Anonymous No.9549001]

>>9548983
>measure every nook and cranny of the earth
Don't Lewd Earth-chan !

[Anonymous No.9549009]

>>9548996
>taking place for a century

Oh yeah I bet it was very accurate in the 1800s/1900s.

Have these older temperatures been scientifically confirmed as legitimate or are they taken on faith?

[Anonymous No.9549019]

>>9548996
>>9549009
https://skepticalscience.com/surface-temperature-measurements-advanced.htm

[Anonymous No.9549020]

>>9548233
>/pol/ here

[Anonymous No.9549024]

>>9548983
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#References

[Anonymous No.9549025]

>>9549009
Anon the first thermometers were invented in the 1700s. More primitive ones before that.

This isn't like the Bible, there's no faith in measurements.

[Anonymous No.9549047]

thermometers are LITERALLY the bible, you have no argument

[Anonymous No.9549056]

>>9549019
>>9549024

The data is definitely accurate because we say it is. To understand how absurd of a statement it is to say they know it's accurate you need wrap your head around the infinite variables involved in taking a "global" temperature. Answer me this, how large of an area has been covered to produce this "global" temperature?

>>9549025

What do you mean there's no faith in measurements? Instruments can malfunction, they can be used improperly, their readings can be recorded incorrectly, or they can simply be made up and you'd be none the wiser.

[Anonymous No.9549081]

>>9549056
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat

[Anonymous No.9549088]

>>9549081
>I believe global temperature measurements dating back to the 1800s and earlier are accurate. That's called science.

[Anonymous No.9549092]

>>9548853
Global warming causes more extremes in weather, for now.
Once the arctic regions heat enough we will no longer get these freak cold events.

[Anonymous No.9549099]

>>9549088
https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/schmidt_01/
do you even know how they determine this temperature data from a long time ago? it's not that complicated and has nothing to do with "thermomter readings" recorded by some nigga a few hundred yrs ago

[Anonymous No.9549108]

>>9549099
>implying you can convince a retard with logic

[Anonymous No.9549120]

>>9549092
>Global warming causes more extremes in weather

Ohhhhhhh, how convenient. Making this shit up as you go along. What next? Global warming killed JFK? Global warming hacked Clinton's emails? Global warming created the universe? Oh no wait, that was more down to global cooling, pay no heed.

[Anonymous No.9549132]

>>9549099

Fuckin' gibberish the lot of it.

[Anonymous No.9549181]

>>9549088
Science is public databases and methodologies.
Feel free to pick at the details.
- The data and software used to produce these reconstructions are publicly available
- The software has been successfully tested outside of NASA and CRU, and it works as advertised
- Similar results can be obtained using different software and methods

https://skepticalscience.com/surface-temperature-measurements-advanced.htm

[Anonymous No.9549186]

>>9549120
Who knew climate would be so complicated.

Have another beer and pass out at the sofa as usual.

[Anonymous No.9549197]

>the end of the titanic just rose 20m, how could it be sinking?!

[Anonymous No.9549240]

>>9549181
>reconstructions

I don't want "reconstructions", are you mad?

>>9549186
>Something is complicated therefore it's true

It's usually the opposite.

[Anonymous No.9549248]

>>9549240
beats shitposts any day, all day

[Anonymous No.9549252]

>>9549120
Yeah, it strangely turns out that when you get higher high pressure zones you also get lower low pressure zones and their attempts to equalize can be more dramatic.

[Anonymous No.9549261]

>>9549020
holy fuck that pic lmao

[Anonymous No.9549278]

>>9548233
You know you can believe in anthropogenic climate change without having to give money to jews, right? If you believe in blood and soil, why are you poisoning the soil just because fox news jews tell you climate change doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.9549302]

>>9549248

Okay pseudo-science lover.

>>9549252

Do you realize those pressures co-exist side by side with the vacuum of space? Makes you wonder why they don't just equalize out there, it'd be much easier.

[Anonymous No.9549309]

>>9549302
>Makes you wonder why they don't just equalize out there, it'd be much easier.
Because there's no gravity.

[Anonymous No.9549321]

>>9549302
>what is gravity
too scientific for you? "it's only a theory"

Rebcunts Say The Darndest Things

[Anonymous No.9549344]

>>9549309
>>9549321

Do gases equilibrate in a vacuum because of gravity? Are gases more attracted to the earth's gravitational pull, or more attracted to a vacuum?

[Anonymous No.9549355]

>>9549344
all matter is effected by gravity. don't be a FE tier buffoon

[Anonymous No.9549368]

>>9549344
>Are gases more attracted to the earth's gravitational pull, or more attracted to a vacuum?
Vacuum doesn't attract.

[Anonymous No.9549444]

Anyone have the /sci/ archive link of the thread where some poltard posted a screesnshot of a Russian anon saying incredibly stupid things against AGW; and the /sci/ poster refuted every single point of it?

I remember it was complete destruction of the poltard.

Sorry if this post makes little sense.

[Anonymous No.9549463]

>>9549355
>>9549368

Gases and vacuums are attracted to each other, but you're saying gravity is strong enough to stop this attraction. That's baloney.

[Anonymous No.9549466]

>>9549463
How do you think a star retains its shape and structure?

[Anonymous No.9549475]

>>9549302
>Do you realize those pressures co-exist side by side with the vacuum of space? Makes you wonder why they don't just equalize out there, it'd be much easier.
This has to be bait. No one is this stupid.

[How can she slap?? No.9549480]

>>9549444
The Truth About Climate Change
http://vixra.org/abs/1309.0069

Climatology occupies the intersection of science policy and public understanding of science. In such a prominent position, the wide spectrum of climate opinions is remarkable. Society has achieved a paradigm in which global warming subscribers and non-subscribers are largely segregated by political affiliation. Since science is non-political, only a misunderstanding of the science can facilitate such a segregation. In the first section we analyze a recent study by Cook \emph{et al.} finding overwhelming scientific endorsement for the greenhouse theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW). We find the popular reporting on Cook's result is not accurate. The aim of the following section is to clarify the science behind the most popular climate arguments and introduce the reader to some evidence that is not widely publicized. Even the astute non-climatologist should come away from this report with an enhanced understanding of relevant issues in modern climate science.

[Anonymous No.9549490]

>>9549466

They're not made of fucking gases on fire.

[Anonymous No.9549512]

>>9549490
What's stopping plasma from dissipating in space?

[Anonymous No.9549517]

>>9549490
What? They're not burning, it's literally nuclear reaction trying to rip apart the star with its sheer force.

But its held together by gravity.

You said that vacuum would attract the gases to itself, and other anons and I have told you already with clear examples that gravity keeps them in check.

All you're doing is being insistent on denying AGW and the science behind it and when someone disproves you, you search for another avenue to raise your point until you're disproved again.

Rinse and repeat.

[Anonymous No.9549529]

>>9549480
Wow. This has got to be worst pile of shit I've ever read, and I've read some fucking garbage in my life.

[Anonymous No.9549548]

>>9549463
Gravity is what determines how varying pressure cells will react to each other.

In a vacuum you don't really get high and low pressure coexisting. A vacuum is a (near) 0 pressure cell, effectively so in a vacuum you can't have a high pressure cell without some other force acting.

Vacuum has no attractive force, pressures just want to equalize. This is part of the reason our atmosphere stays put but decompression is a danger in space. There is no force acting on the air inside the station to keep it inside if you open the door, so it equalizes with the low pressure outside.

Matter, including gases, have mass and thus gravitational influence. This is why clouds of gas condense and form stars, bursting into life as their sheer mass causes the hydrogen in their cores to start fusing into helium.
In a way stars also demonstrate this same phenomenonin reverse. The high pressure cell created by the fusion in the core overcomes the force of gravity attempting to condense the star into a much smaller object.

[Anonymous No.9549563]

>>9549480
>Since science is non-political

[Anonymous No.9549573]

>>9549529
>>9549563
Don't feed the schizo.

[Anonymous No.9550186]

>>9549463
>Gases and vacuums are attracted to each other
anyone on /sci/ who unironically believes this should commit kakuro