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>> No.9547832

yes

>> No.9547835

No

>> No.9547837

maybe

>> No.9547838

could you repeat the question?

>> No.9547842

depends

>> No.9547845

math is applied CS

>> No.9547850

>>9547831

It's applied philosophical logic.

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9547861

>>9547831
No.

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>>9547831
>is Medicine just applied anatomy?

>> No.9547927

Yes.

>> No.9548009

CS is applied street shitting

>> No.9548089

>>9547831


Eh, very basic math, narrowed to a very specific ruleset. It is rather stemming from applied logic itself and therefore rather running parallel to general mathematics, not necessarily derived from them.

>> No.9548091

>>9547861
This is from a presentation about why there aren't many women in Codemonkey Studies.

>> No.9548096

>>9548091
And?

https://www.maa.org/news/math-news/terri-oda-debunks-women-in-math-myth

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>>9547861
What are the axes? What is this even measuring?

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>>9548104
Math IQ of all animals

>> No.9548113

>>9548104
X axis: IQ, right is better
Y axis: number of people with that IQ

>> No.9549520

>>9548104
>he doesn't instantly recognize the IQ curve

I hate to break it to you anon, you got the brainlet

>> No.9549542

Mathematics is applied autism.

>> No.9549589

>>9547831
>>9547850
>>9548089

no, because bugs like spectre, air gap hopping malware, cold boot attacks can rely on physical phenomenon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_malware
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack

>> No.9549596

>>9549589
this is not part of CS you brainlet

>> No.9549619

>>9549596
computer security and cryptography are most certainly computer science.

>> No.9549694

>>9549619
How is anything specific to hardware CS and not computer engineering?
The whole point of CS is not to think about anything physical.

>> No.9549728

>>9549694
not anymore lol:
https://wingolog.org/archives/2018/01/11/spectre-and-the-end-of-langsec

Spectre means that many of the approaches to prove the correctness of programs to demonstrate they are secure without considering the real world are moot at this point.

>> No.9549797

>>9549728
This guy nailed it:
>Bob Bishop says:
>23 January 2018 2:50 PM
>Langsec: "let's avoid vulnerabilities in the programs we write", this post's title and mood: "there are vulnerabilities elsewhere, langsec is dead". Non sequitur, and such an argument didn't even need Spectre. The post itself doesn't quite say what the title says though, did I get click-bitten?
The fact problems in software can be caused by hardware doesn't mean everyone who programs should have to start learning how to be engineers. That's stupid. We already have engineers, they can work on the hardware themselves. It's not like Spectre rendered the concept of abstract programming obsolete. I still develop software for a living and nobody at my company has told me I need to stop writing code and start learning how to patch mechanical problems yet.

>> No.9549810

>>9549520
>doesn't recognize the normal curve

I hate to break it to you anon, you got the brainlet

>> No.9549816

>>9549619
And computer security and cryptography are also a major subject in Computer Engineering.

>>9549728
>Spectre means that many of the approaches to prove the correctness of programs to demonstrate they are secure without considering the real world are moot at this point.

Jesus, there's no limit to the stupidity of CS majors.

>> No.9549819

>CS
>computer science
>computational science
>(machine that does computations) science

>Is CS just applied applied math
Yes

>> No.9549821

>>9547831
It's programming with some easy discrete math sprinkled in (read: it's for dummies)

>> No.9549827

>>9549619
>computer security and cryptography are most certainly computer science
brainlet detected

all the babby tier vulnerabilities exist at the abstract level

>> No.9550124

>>9549728
>correctness
static typefags BTFO!!!!!!

>> No.9550128

It's much closer to pure math than the natural sciences are.

>> No.9550129

>>9549819
the computer is just the tool, though. You don't say astronomy is telescope science

>> No.9550178

>>9550129
Oddly enough you don't need a computer to do computer science. Just ask Ada Lovelace.

>> No.9550291

>>9549589

Computers are based on digital logic which is derived from logic used in philosophy. Therefore CS is applied analytical philosophy.