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What would a society with an average IQ of 130 look like?

>> No.9510397

>>9510383
the same, because of the Poisson distribution, you 110 spaz

>> No.9510422

>>9510397
130 relative to us.

>> No.9510425

It would only last a generation before regression to the mean fucks it all up.

>> No.9510429

>>9510425
That's not what regression to the mean means. This means that in a totally random event, for example the roll of a dice, if you roll the dice often enough, the average result will be 3,5 eyes. This has nothing to do with a society being smarter than another.

>> No.9510480
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More good shit would start to appare. Less war less crime less hunger less conflict. Better living better things better joy more happiness better life.

>> No.9510486

There would only be a single generation because everyone with a high enough IQ is male.

>> No.9510502

>>9510486
You obviously wouldn't belong there. Average IQ means all males can have 160, all females 100, brainlet.

>> No.9510505

>>9510502
Im sorry i dont work with statistics, you must major in the social sciences. Statistically that would make you more likely to be female. And you are defending low female intelligence...

Case closed.

>> No.9510507

>>9510383
it would only have white men in it

A perfect utopia

>> No.9510508

>>9510425
Not if the mean is 130 you brainlet. That's literally what the OP asked and yet you're too dumb to process it.

>> No.9510515

>>9510429
He is just a brainlet. Very smart and very dumb people will tend to have kids that are closer to the mean because IQ is the result of a fuckload of different genes and environmental factors, just like a dice roll - so regression to the mean applies. The problem is, of course, that in OPs hypothetical scenario the mean itself is different - 130 relative to white americans. This would mean that the expected IQ result from all the genes and shit in this population would be 130, and this would be what the mean tends toward.

The anon you replied to is a brainlet because he thinks "regression to the mean" is a be all end all argument against intelligence differences between populations, but there is in fact no reason whatsoever to think that "the mean" is some cosmic quantity that HAS to be what it currently is for white americans.

>> No.9510582

>>9510507
It would be jews and you know it

>> No.9510629

>>9510383

White.

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9510647

>>9510629
>ya guise it wud be white cuz we wuz master race n shiet
Have you heard of chinks or jews?

>> No.9510657

>>9510383
>>9510422

what you're asking is almost exactly like comparing our current society with society ~100 or so years ago.

we're getting smarter.

>> No.9510659

>>9510505
>Statistics
>A subset of math
>Social science
Wow

>> No.9510667

>>9510383
What does this have to do with science or math

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9510942

>>9510397
That's complete horseshit. Just compare Equatorial Guinea to Hong Kong.

>> No.9510945

>>9510647
Asians on national tests in order to look better than everyone else. Jews tailor the tests to reflect their type of intellect.

>> No.9510949

>>9510945
>Asians *cheat

>> No.9510956

>>9510942
both of those places are still on the same scale of an average 100 relative to the whole world, the person you replied to is saying if the avg was 130 then that 130 would be equal to our 100 because the scale would be shifted. what OP meant was that everyone on his earth would be considered equivalent to our 130.

>> No.9510962

It would look like the person who only ate fat.

> dead

>> No.9510963

>>9510945
you could make that same argument (the Jew one) for white people

>> No.9510987

>>9510945
Yeah we should tailor the test to include a hundred meter dash to show that the real 130 iq supermen are the Jamaicans

>> No.9510994

>>9510956
Also, Hong Kong, just like Singapore, has the added benefit of being right next to the world's busiest shipping lane.

>> No.9511071

>>9510515
It's not clear to me that the human brain is anywhere near the limit of it's intelligence
Hence I don't see why you think regression to the mean would apply

>> No.9511088

>>9510383
Same as today, while all of the average citizens are entertaining themselves and wasting their time the elite with 180 iq rule everything and everyone woth no one suspecting a thing

>> No.9511090 [DELETED] 
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>literally hundreds of thousands of people living in the world right now with an IQ above 160
>still haven't figured out a way to improve others intelligence

YOU'RE KEEPING IT ON PURPOSE, AREN'T YOU? DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW PAINFUL IT IS TO BE A BRAINLET?! OF COURSE YOU DO, BUT YOU DON'T CARE! IN FACT, YOU'RE GLAD! GLAD THAT YOU'RE SUPERIOR! WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? CAN'T BE SUPERIOR WHEN YOU'RE DEAD! YOU CAN ONLY PUSH US FOR SO LONG, GENIUSES! I SWEAR, IF IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS THERE WON'T BE TREATMENT TO RAISE IQ, I WILL PERSONALLY KILL EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT'S SMARTER THAN ME, UNTIL I AND ONLY I HAVE THE HIGHEST IQ ON THE PLANET!

>> No.9511097

>>9510507
And East Asians. They also have high IQ.

>> No.9511099

>>9510383
Imagine a world without niggers...

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>>9510383

>> No.9511117

>iq
Not science.

>> No.9511157

>>9510945
Do jews also tailor maths and science to make it easier for them to succeed in?

>> No.9511178

>>9511157
'Math' is not a plural word.
>hurr durr it is in the third world where I am
No, it's not.

>> No.9511195

>>9510942
>a foreign and soulless nightscape
>a comfy tropical town

>> No.9511197

>>9511178
>American education

>> No.9511238

>>9510942
An avarage iq of 59 seems impossible.

>> No.9511245

>>9511238
Do not underestimate the niggers.

>> No.9511250

There would be a lot more smart people cleaning toilets

>> No.9511252

>america before 1492
>land full of prosperous civilizations
>america after 1492
>shithole
"white people" is the answer 9/10 times why a country is fucked up

>> No.9511255

>>9511245
He's right though. The current country IQ estimates are based on HDI, GDP, PISA scores etc.- basically everything but an IQ research. I'm pretty sure the average nigger, after all the /pol/ memes, is more capable than a drooling retard.

>> No.9511265

>>9511238
their IQ score was based on a handful of schoolgirls IIRC

>> No.9511279

>implying IQ means shit in the real world

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>>9511279
>problem solving doesn't mean shit in the real world

>> No.9511321

>>9510383
Average IQ is by definition 100. If the average test responder had an IQ of 130, then the scale would be readjusted to 100.

> We are getting smarter.
We are becoming more specialized. There's a difference. A lawyer might earn 6 figures, but he still needs a garbage man to take out the garbage.

>> No.9511328

>>9510383
Dystopian to an insane degree because the sociopathic oligarchs would actually be competent.

>> No.9511336

>>9511279
>implying
>means
>real world

>> No.9511338

>>9511321
>Average IQ is by definition 100. If the average test responder had an IQ of 130, then the scale would be readjusted to 100.
How is this an argument? I've seen multiple brainlets post it in this thread already. Do you think that the score of everyone would magically readjust to the new scale and be the same as it was before?

>> No.9511342

>>9510383
You already have such societies in America. Look at rich suburbs.

>> No.9511348

>>9511321
>We are becoming more specialized. There's a difference. A lawyer might earn 6 figures, but he still needs a garbage man to take out the garbage.
The difference being that the lawyer, if he needed to, could take out the garbage, but the garbageman could not like a lawyer.

Stop being an inteligence denier.

>> No.9511359

>>9511348
Not that guy, but if the lawyer had to spend all his time taking out the trash and mowing the lawn he'd have less time to lawyer things.

>> No.9511366

>>9510383
Well we certainly wouldn’t be having people using crowbars to brain people in the head with

>> No.9511382

>>9511255
You should come visit me here in Brazil. I have so many things to show you, your opinion would change in a heartbeat.

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>>9511342
>Rich suburb
>Communicate with the people inside
>They think just like me and I live in a lower middle-class neighborhood

What kind of shit is this?

>> No.9512752

>>9511279
>iq
Not science.

>> No.9512762

>>9511195
>be in hong kong
>get mugged by Triad gang bembers, left in giant clean streets broke, police will probably help me
>be in Shithole town africa
>get mugged by nigger gang member
>left in disgusting trash and littered filled streets in the same soup as all the other poor niggers
>there are no police, and or any police will tell me to fuck off

>> No.9512817

>>9510942
now this is bait
I really hope

>> No.9512831
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>>9510383

Cape shit movies wouldn't be the norm. People would smile at each other more. Valuable things with no utility would become less valuable. Religion wouldn't be as big, inb4 tips fedora and ebin memes. I know plenty of religious people many times smarter than me, but I still think religion overall would be smaller.

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>>9510383

>> No.9512894

>>9511348

Not him but there's a lot more to a garbage man's job than just simply picking up the trash. Despite the title it is a branch of waste management and health control which means that they have specialized knowledge to handle hazardous material (they don't just pick up trash from resident neighborhoods) while maintaining personal health/ preventing risk of infection from the waste they collect in getting into the general populace. A lawyer without such proper training/ knowledge will catch himself and others getting infected or sick. This is on top of the fact they have to practice safety measures in dealing with external weather conditions for long periods of time.

So as the other anon said we are becoming more specialized.

>> No.9513123

>>9511117
Ok kid

>> No.9513139

>>9510383
I don't want to be racist, but it would be brighter.

>> No.9513140

>>9510942
You just forgot one simple thing: Hong Kong is/has been right next to the PRC for the last 100 years. It was the only way to get goods in and out of China due to the embargos and all that other shit. It had great relations with the West due to the British prescence.

Yes, New Guinea is full of dumb midget niggers, but it's also just not that strategically placed. I can think of another area that is full of dumb midget niggers, yet it is strategically placed that has fared much better: Morocco.

>> No.9513141

>>9510383
If avarage was 130, it would mean, there is one 9000000000 guy, and a lot of more stupid people.

>> No.9513144

>>9513140
They are not that much stupid and unsocialized.

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9513147

>>9513140
also related

>> No.9513148

>>9512762

>get mugged in hong kong
>locals hurry past you so as not to be drawn into your business
>police arrest you for vagarancy
>mugged in african town
>your family and friends, of whom you have many, quickly rush to your aid
>your brothers form a vigilante squad to raid the village of the tribe who mugged you and reclaim your honour, as well as rum and fine shoes in compensation

>> No.9513152

>>9513148
>living in hong kong
>not being a kung fu master with a CCW as insurance
you deserved it

>> No.9513154

>>9510383
lots of unneccessary technology

>> No.9513156

>>9513148
>light the village next door on fire cause if beef
>wildfire burns for months
>crops fail
>everyone dies
based on a true story

>> No.9513309

>>9510480
if you haven't said C or R and the hangman is nearly finished, you fucked up indeed.

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>>9510942
The 59 IQ world looks like Pic related

>> No.9513328

>>9511157
Unironically "Yes, they do".

>>9511252
>this

>> No.9513332

>>9511279
This is correct. However despite the NSA the news still goes past US intelligence.

In the rest of the world (except India maybe lol) nobody gives even half a shit.

>> No.9513463

>>9511157
aren't they high verbal and around 100 in math?

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>> No.9514430

>>9510582
There are more whites with an IQ of 130 than all Ashkenazi Jews combined.

>> No.9514433

>>9513147
>still 30% of the GDP is private
>you probably missed or ignored that part about post-2005 on purpose because it doesn't fit your agenda

>> No.9514436

>have only IQ 130 in group
>no one wants to do labour
>end up living like monkey bums
Ask me how I know the OP is sub 80 IQ

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>>9514455
member that gray beanie I wore at Occupy Atlanta?

>> No.9514684

>>9513315

most of africa is shit because the same sort people are in power, and 70% of the countries are in massive historical debt

go back to /pol/ you cretin

>> No.9514689

>>9514423

Israel is full of morons and religion is involved heavily in the state, definitely no where near to 130 IQ, closer to 70

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>>9510383

>> No.9515673

>>9514689
>religion is involved heavily in the state
it's why it exists in the first place

>> No.9515888

>>9510383
people would probably live like aliens at that point; can biologically engineer themselves and will most probably be asexual for efficiency, already colonies on multiple planets, world peace and individuals work together, capitalism barely exists, only one race on a planet and so on...

>> No.9515889

>>9512894
Are you implying that taking out the trash is equivalent to understanding the full complexity of a country's legal system?

>> No.9516036

>>9510383
Probably would be no society since humans that smart no longer require civilization to survive. Our school system only works due to most humans being brainlets without that then school is pointless since anyone can pass it on drugs. The job system would have to be reworked since anyone could get a Phd without trying, it would lead to the collapse of society as intelligent humans would view our economic system as monkey stupidity and create a society that has no economic loads at all.

>> No.9516038

>>9510647
If jews are that smart on average they would have conquered the planet centuries ago, but without whitey the jew is helpless, I repeat WITHOUT WHITEY THE JEW IS HELPLESS. Ashkenazis are also European blood so its still white supremacy.

>> No.9516044

>>9514684
No its shit because the majority of humans are feral retards, every fucking country has corrupted sociopaths for a parliament yet African countries always are the greatest shitholes in human history due to its subhuman majority population. Sure the PM of Nigeria robs the country blind but that doesnt give Nigerians an excuse to kill or rape eachother at ridiculous rates now does it?

Remember cuckold when people say Africa is shit they arent referring to the economies they are referring to the niggers who make living in those countries hell on earth.

>> No.9516052

Much more technologically advanced and humanitarian. Less crimes against humanity and safer to live in.

>> No.9516060

>>9516052
>and humanitarian
High IQ people would be above pathological virtue seeking behavior they would be obsessed with studying shit instead.

>> No.9516071

>>9516060
>humanitarianism = pathological virtue-seeking behavior

To be fair this high IQ civilization might slowly collapse because they would want to allow mass immigration.

>> No.9516083

>>9516071
No they wouldnt infact they would have god complexes that make jews look sane and consider the rest of us inferior primitives who are not on their level period.

>> No.9516148

>>9513309
Dude, C and R were respectively the second and third letter they said. Plus, starting with C and R is stupid, you should always start with vowels.

>> No.9516149

Lol I can tell by the responses that most of the people in here most likely have a 100 maybe 105 IQ. I saw someone say we all have a specialty like lawyers and garbage men. All of these will be replaced with robots in the near future, as will soldiers. If you are a dumb fuck that doesn't understand human psychology like a NAZI or a religious nut you will be wiped out.

>> No.9516178

>>9515133
Apparently smart people can live a comfortable life alongside train lines.
Probably all that noise and vibration stimulate their neural activity.

>> No.9516181

>>9510507
no retard, it would be 60% asians, 25% whites and 15% jews

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>hurr it would look like this because high IQ people do this and like that
kys

>> No.9516224

>>9516181
This. 60% East Asians, 25% Indo-Europeans and 15% Askenazi jews.

>> No.9516365

>>9510383
We need low IQ workers and laborers, does no one realize this? Literally nothing would be constructed, nobody would take your garbage every week, nobody would maintain your sewage systems. Until we have competent automation, these jobs are very important to keep society running.

>> No.9516445

>>9516149
Why wipe them out? Brainlets like me are dumb animals without smart guys to invent crap for them, all it takes to destroy human civilization is for smart people to never exist.

>> No.9516451

>>9516365
You could replace them with robots much more efficient and no need to feed them to keep them alive. A high IQ society would realize being human limits them too much and try to become transhuman so they wouldnt need to eat or shit anymore.

>> No.9516776

>>9511359
>Not that guy, but if the lawyer had to spend all his time taking out the trash and mowing the lawn he'd have less time to lawyer things.

I get what you mean, but there are some people who would take an inordinate amount of time to even get on an education level that'd allow them to attend college. These people will never be successful lawyers, but they can easily become garbage men.

So, to sum up: The typical garbage man could not take over for the lawyer, but the typical lawyer could definitely take over for the garbage man.

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>>9510383
Would the 0,2% of said society still have 160 IQ or rather 208 IQ? Would this IQ distribute among various intelligences so a surgeon with very high motor skills could perform a more precise cut than a remote controlled cutting edge extension of arm can do today?

Now a surgeon with a better control of his body is a desirable trait that is probably objectively positive to the society regardless of his "better" opinions. If we are going wild with your hypothesis I just can't empathize with a person who has 208 IQ. That's so far away from even today's genius. My IQ is 152 and all of my close friends are very intelligent and it's not just because average person wouldn't "get me" but because (and this is maybe even more important) the emotion doesn't carry as much weight to them. This would create even deeper valley between the privileged few and the rest because you can still be a factory worker at 130 IQ and in fact you are needed as a factory worker, not everyone can be a creative flower. And so the ultragenious few, detached even more from the general population feeling all alone in the crowd would have to design a system producing IQ 130 unfulfilled factory workers full of sadness.

Now a more interesting question than this IQ thing is, what a modern society with mandatory single oral dose of 20g of psilocybin mushrooms or vaporized 80mg of N,N-DMT as a rite of passage into adulthood would look like? What if cannabis instead of alcohol was legal?