/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9492048]

Apologize.

[Anonymous No.9492093]

Sorry you're an attention whore.

[Anonymous No.9492115]

this autist put a car in space

[Anonymous No.9492153]

>>9492115
He is literally living the dream.

[Anonymous No.9492258]

>>9492048
The stream cut before the core landing, which is publicity speak for failure

[Anonymous No.9492308]

>>9492153
Only if your name is Ford Prefect.

[Anonymous No.9492317]

>>9492258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

[Anonymous No.9492385]

the core died lol

[Anonymous No.9492787]

>>9492317
Cartoons sure are flat these days.

[Anonymous No.9492818]

>>9492385
'no'

[Anonymous No.9492827]

>>9492048
why is he allowed to do this just because he has money

[Anonymous No.9492857]

>>9492258
If it was a failure I feel like Elon would have said something by now. Most likely its status isn't known.

[Anonymous No.9492866]

can one of you nerds explain what I'm looking at behind the car in this glitch in the livestream?

[Anonymous No.9492985]

I'm sorry for calling you a soyboy meme Elon, that was a bretty gud launch.

[Anonymous No.9492993]

>>9492866
that was at the end of the livestream where they showed the fearing deploying from the inside. it is the inside of the fearing

[Anonymous No.9493063]

>>9492866
It is a camera of the CGI studio set. We've never been in the stratosphere. Earth is flat.

[Anonymous No.9493159]

>>9492985
Hopefully while Musk is sending cars to Mars, Amber Heard is blowing a busboy in an alley.

[Anonymous No.9493229]

only when you do something that's not fanservice

[Anonymous No.9493278]

It's absolutely appalling how much money is wasted by being poured into building rockets instead of things that will actually help people. In an ideal world that money would have went towards affordable housing and free breakfasts for children from low-income families instead

[Anonymous No.9493306]

To the mars. Perfect

[Anonymous No.9493428]

>>9493278
Go away troll, you posted the same shit in yesterdays thread.

[Anonymous No.9493436]

>>9493063
lol, this disease spreading like ebola

[Anonymous No.9493460]

>>9493306
Surreal.

[Anonymous No.9493466]

"no"

[Anonymous No.9493477]

>>9493428
I'm not a troll, just someone who's angry over the misallocation of resources under crapitalism

[Anonymous No.9493492]

>>9493436
>the earth is round

[Anonymous No.9493524]

>>9493477

A Commie troll, phahahah

[Anonymous No.9493547]

>>9492048
thank you elon
i'll finally be able to get the fuck off this gay earth
;_;

[Anonymous No.9493559]

>>9493278

Children from low-income families love rockets.

[Anonymous No.9493560]

fresh meme

[Anonymous No.9493595]

>>9493524
Your vision would help to boost the ego of a billionaire, mine would stop poor children from going hungry. Who's really in the wrong here?

[Anonymous No.9493615]

Dream on, mars man

[Anonymous No.9493620]

>>9493615
Why is he so comfy?

[Anonymous No.9493641]

>>9493595
I'd much rather have my tax dollars go towards cool space shit than feeding some poor losers.

[Anonymous No.9493653]

>>9493306
>>9493615
its not going to mars, its just gonna cycle between earth and mars orbit

[Anonymous No.9493673]

>>9492048
NO.

[Anonymous No.9493678]

>>9493641
You know that that "cool space shit" will never benefit you, right? Because it benefits literally no one. It means literally nothing if humans land on mars.

Actually, it does mean something, it represents a colossal amount of money, time and resources going towards something that helps nobody. A society is best reflected by how it treats its poor and vulnerable.

[Anonymous No.9493717]

>>9493678
>society should spend its resources on keeping failures and sacks of genetic garbage alive and letting them breed/import even more pieces of shit

yeah, nah, 100% science & engineering.

[Anonymous No.9493722]

>>9493678
Dumbass pratically ALL the modern plastic material came from material research for Apollo missions.

[Anonymous No.9493729]

>>9493678
.t "social" """""""sciences""""""" major

[Anonymous No.9493740]

>>9493678
take your shit bait back to r e d d i t, leftypol, or wherever else people are dumb enough to take you seriously

[Anonymous No.9493771]

>>9493722
>Dumbass pratically ALL the modern plastic material came from material research for Apollo missions.
And how the fuck is that a good thing? Plastic waste is now an enormous environmental problem.

[Anonymous No.9493788]

>>9493771
>plastic isn't a useful material because there are problems associated with it

[Anonymous No.9493819]

>>9493717
>I am an upper middle class white guy: the post

[Anonymous No.9493821]

>>9493788
>"it's okay to use stuff even if it has problems because it's useful XDXD"
That's the exact line of thinking that's gotten our planet to the state it's in today

[Anonymous No.9493859]

>>9493819
>>9493678
>"I'm a useless sack of shit with no valuable contribution to make to humanity"
kys already, some medical students need to practice dissection, your only time to shine

[Anonymous No.9493867]

>>9493821
So I guess we should go back to our caves then? Good luck with your shit quality of life, short lifespans, rampant disease, and struggle for survival.

[Anonymous No.9493902]

>>9492857
>status of a rock engine isn't know
its probably kill

>>9493867
ignore and hide, that's all we have to do

[Anonymous No.9493909]

>>9493859
I refuse to live in a world where we allow underprivileged children to go to bed on an empty stomach so an egotistical businessman can launch rockets into space for his own amusement. Fuck me, right?

[Anonymous No.9493929]

>>9493867
>he still holds the Hobbesian view of pre-agricultural human society

[Anonymous No.9493953]

>>9493909
>launch rockets into space for his own amusement.

Chill man, it's a test flight. You're just butthurt that the mass simulator is a car, and not the usual hunk of concrete and steel.

[Anonymous No.9493968]

>>9493595
>mine would stop poor children from going hungry
>except when it it didn't but it's okay because it wasn't real socialism

[Anonymous No.9493969]

>>9493306
>Australia

I can see the shitposting 2000 km up.

[Anonymous No.9493971]

>>9493909
yes fuck you, go away

[Anonymous No.9493985]

>>9493968
>wanting to invest more in social welfare programs is the same thing as wanting a centrally planned economy

[Anonymous No.9493987]

>>9493560
Ahh ahh ahhh AAAAAHH aaah ahhhh

[Anonymous No.9494003]

>>9492048
sorry for the idiots of /sci/

[Anonymous No.9494005]

>>9493971
This will be the inevitable fate of all rightist tory scum

[Anonymous No.9494029]

>>9493595
>he thinks giving money to international relief funds actually helps the people in need of relief

Oh you poor sweet child. It goes to the local warlord or corrupt """""""socialist democratic""""""" government and never actually improves anything. In fact, by babying and enabling them you are insuring that they won't improve their country because they can get more gibsmedats that they can squander on frivolous shit instead of rebuilding the infrastructure they fucked up.

[Anonymous No.9494042]

>>9493985
Millions of children died of hunger under socialism in the sovjet union and china because of misallocation of resources supposedly meant to provide social welfare in the capitals.

It's time for you to go back to plebbit, Timmy.

[Anonymous No.9494044]

>>9493909
Yes, fuck you and all your ideological kind. Humanity advances through competition, and a bottomless urge to improve and perfect. That means getting rid of failures and defects. That means we need winners and losers. If everybody gets a prize for "participating", then nobody wins, so nobody will bother to try to win anymore.

Every billion spent on "helping the poor" is a billion that's not being spent on "helping humanity". It's settling for perpetual mediocrity, it's refusing to give mankind the positive/negative feedback it needs to change. And without change, there is no evolution, and without evolution, a species dies out.

[Anonymous No.9494049]

>>9493929
Nature is straight up evil m8, the only noble path for humanity is separating itself from nature as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.9494056]

>>9494042
The Soviet Union and China weren't socialist, they were state capitalist

[Anonymous No.9494062]

>>9492857
>status isn't known
It landed in the water right next to the launchpad and sank.

You heard it here first lads. Screencap this if you don't believe me.

Also, logically thinking, if it isn't on the launchpad then do you really think that it's intact?

[Anonymous No.9494063]

>>9494049
Literally the exact opposite of the truth m8

[Anonymous No.9494064]

>>9493821

> "We can't use anything unless it's absolutely perfect"

Feeding and inoculating billions of people so their children don't die has also fucked our planet but you're for that you retard.

[Anonymous No.9494070]

>>9494056

[Anonymous No.9494085]

>>9494044
>2018
>Social Darwinism

Literal B R A I N L E T, all the historical evidence point clear that it's cooperation what brought us here form the caves, not competition. Not even OP btw.

[Anonymous No.9494100]

>>9494070
>I'm a libertarian

[Anonymous No.9494101]

>>9493985
then in that case in the US alone there's already
~900 Billion is SS
~500 in Income Security
~500 Billion in "Health"
~500 in Medicare
and that's just on the federal level at ~14% of GDP, and that's not including similar programs across all the states

>>9494056
>"it wasn't real socialism!"

[Anonymous No.9494109]

>>9494063
You're watching too much Black Mirror there mate.

>>9494085
You can't force cooperation. And cooperation works best on the small scale. It breaks down when you get to the scale of nations.

[Anonymous No.9494118]

>>9494085
Cooperation in order to better compete, you nincompoop. Every nation's space program was in order to be able to drop nuclear Armageddon down on their enemies.

[Anonymous No.9494121]

>>9493678
>Implying something is more important than leaving a trace of our existence
Kys egoistic cunt

[Anonymous No.9494122]

>>9494101
If the US spends that much on healthcare then why can't it have healthcare free at the point of use like in the UK or Scandinavia?

And I'm saying it wasn't real socialism because it literally doesn't fit the definition of socialism. It's like how the Ottoman Empire claimed to be the descendant of the Roman Empire, didn't mean that they were

[Anonymous No.9494123]

>>9494100
>get arseblasted
>the perfect refutal is a neckbeard fedora shrek meme
Explain how a proletar revolution seizing the means of production in the name of the people is not socialism instead of strawmanning

[Anonymous No.9494139]

>>9492048

What waste of resources, time, and a opportunity actually put something useful into orbit.

[Anonymous No.9494145]

>>9494121
Who the fuck are we leaving a "trace of our existence" for, you blithering idiot? And everything that humans have made will eventually disappear with the passage of time so it's not even a point that makes sense

[Anonymous No.9494148]

>>9494109
>It breaks down when you get to the scale of nations.
>Sauce: my ass believe so.

You really need to study medieval and renaissance history.

[Anonymous No.9494157]

Centre core ded

[Anonymous No.9494163]

>>9494139
>What waste of resources, time
They were not yours to complain about. Your "tax dollars" were already used to put other payloads in orbit.
>a opportunity actually put something useful into orbit
They literally were not sure whether it would clear the tower

[Anonymous No.9494177]

>>9493819
Spoken like a nigger.

[Anonymous No.9494179]

>>9493492
>the earth is flat
>everything that says otherwise is CGI

[Anonymous No.9494185]

>>9494148
>period of european history when nations were beginning to solidify
>is also the same period with shitloads of wars

Thanks for proving the point.

[Anonymous No.9494187]

>>9492048
What was the top speed of the falcon heavy?

[Anonymous No.9494215]

>>9494187
Thirty

[Anonymous No.9494231]

>>9494063
How can you possibly believe that? Look at the difference between a handsome, rich actor bathing in pussy and a starving, disease-ridden villager and tell me nature isn't evil. The only way you can get around this is by some hilariously delusional religious value system where you pretend the rich handsome actor somehow earned their existence and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.9494235]

>>9494157
Partial Success/Failure in that case

>>9494187
about tree fiddy

[Anonymous No.9494237]

>>9493819
Literally back to rebbit, fruitcup.

[Anonymous No.9494252]

>>9494185
>is also the same period with shitloads of wars
>don't consider commerce, cultural and technological advancement, even scope of the wars that followed each others, every one broader than the previous and possible thanks to the cooperation of ever bigger factions.

Thanks to showing your ignorance on the subject.

[Anonymous No.9494261]

>>9494231
The difference is that socialism converges into everybody being starving, disease-ridden villagers after every mean of production has been seized and then driven into the ground

[Anonymous No.9494277]

>>9492993
>it is the inside of the fearing
what the hell are you trying to say retard

[Anonymous No.9494286]

>>9494231
So you think that the bottom pic is superior to the top?

[Anonymous No.9494312]

>>9494286
Not him, but if the quality of life is better, sure.

[Anonymous No.9494322]

>>9494286
No, I think humanity's goal should be to leave nature behind to whatever extent is technologically possible. Nature is fucking evil, this planet and universe are hell.

[Anonymous No.9494329]

>>9494312
You can't just pull shit out of your ass without sauce, Timmy

[Anonymous No.9494331]

>>9494163

>they were not yours

spoken like a true brainlet, those resources belong to the future of mankind. Unless we aren't using them to better man into space exploration, which is the next vital step to human evolution, you are a detrimental brainless parasite to the future of man kind.

TLDR, just because you think you own something, you can still waste it's potential, you stupid fucker.

[Anonymous No.9494343]

>>9494261
>that socialism converges into everybody being starving, disease-ridden villagers after every mean of production has been seized and then driven into the ground

Funnily enough in most of est-europe exactly this happened after the end of USSR. Romania is a prime example of this, they had a massive irrigation canal system for farming, all gone to shit because after 1989 people stolen canal lock for selling the iron.

[Anonymous No.9494349]

>>9494312
You need at least some level of nature in your life to retain a healthy mental state. There's a reason that people call places like pic related depressing

[Anonymous No.9494364]

>>9492048
Under what rock did we find this autist under. He's almost singlehandedly making our sci-fi dreams a reality.

[Anonymous No.9494365]

>>9494343
>after living with it for decades, tumour metastasizes
>it's not my fault that i got cancer from smoking

[Anonymous No.9494373]

>>9494322
Your worldview is so warped and twisted that I genuinely don't know what to say to you. You don't think that this picture is even remotely beautiful?

[Anonymous No.9494378]

>>9494331
If they had put a "useful payload" and they lost it, you would be chimping out even more. Today they just proved a tool as useful without damaging anything valuable.

[Anonymous No.9494386]

>>9494349
I mean, I'm not the guy that said nature is evil. And I recognize you can't do away with organic life altogether, up until full on mind-uploading, but that's a different topic.

[Anonymous No.9494391]

>>9494343
>people steal things in the unruly aftermath of massive geopolitical collapse

>>9494349
i wouldn't call it too soon the problem with SpaceX , and really a lot of Musk's companies, is that it has rather thin profit margins if they have them at all

[Anonymous No.9494409]

>>9494365
>wrong methaphor
>somehow it prove my point

Well I guess you didn't understand. It was the USSR system that prevented canals degradation, by having them maintained and guarded. Gone it, gone people paid to take care of canals, locals brought all to shit.

[Anonymous No.9494416]

>>9494277
He means faring

[Anonymous No.9494420]

>>9494373
Obviously I'm not referring to aesthetic beauty, but to the fact that within the borders of that image there's most likely an animal with a developed nervous system (and pain response) literally being eaten alive.

[Anonymous No.9494422]

>>9494409
If you wanna argue that the USSR was socialist, then you'll have to accept that socialism starved to death millions of people, as millions of people starved to death in the USSR

[Anonymous No.9494425]

>>9494391
The point is not that, it's that a mean of production was productive under a socialist system, and after that it went to shit, and it's shit today yet after 30 years.

[.. No.9494430]

>>9493909
Unironically kill yourself then.

[Anonymous No.9494445]

>>9494420
>there's most likely an animal with a developed nervous system (and pain response) literally being eaten alive.

The fact that the food chain is horrifying to you proves nothing other than how sheltered you are. If your morality is incapable of accepting the way life on earth is able to function, then the problem is with you, not the earth.

[Anonymous No.9494464]

>>9494425
>a mean of production was productive under a socialist system
It wasn't sustainable, as sustainability is profit, and socialism doesn't believe in profit; liabilities can be externalised via even more seizing. When you run out of property to seize, you collapse and run into the ground, with all of your "productive means of production" that were actually balancing on pinheads.

[Anonymous No.9494467]

>>9494422
USSR was not a real socialist system, and of course millions starved to death under it, famine, war and purges. Beside this, population grew from 180 millions in 1950 to 290 in 1990.

[Anonymous No.9494490]

>>9494467
>USSR was not a real socialist system

>Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics
>accepted as socialism by all contemporary mainstream schools of socialism
>embraced as a model by all contemporary socialists
>until it collapsed, because in the socialist model the socialist model doesn't collapse

Come on, post that plebbit gif stating that socialist-run Venezuela isn't socialist, I double dare you motherfucker

[Anonymous No.9494501]

>>9494445
Jesus, what a dumb post. You deserve to have a wild animal devouring your abdomen without ending your consciousness first.

[Anonymous No.9494540]

>>9494501
You're the one arguing that natural events can somehow be morally right or wrong. An action can only be considered moral or immoral based on the intention of whatever is responsible for the act. Thus, a person who commits rape or murder is doing something immoral because he is exercising his free will to commit an evil action.

On the other hand, nature is not sentient and does not have a system of right or wrong, so anything that occurs in nature can not be considered moral or immoral. Augustine of Hippo debunked your retarded line of thinking two millennia ago.

[Anonymous No.9494576]

>>9494540
Obviously I'm anthropomorphizing nature to illustrate a point (that it is evil), not actually implying that nature is an entity which makes choices.

[Anonymous No.9494583]

>>9494576
What's wrong with balance? Too much of a good thing is too much of a good thing.

[Anonymous No.9494602]

>>9494583
Really? There is no balance for the individual, and individuals are the only thing that actually exists in terms of beings with experience. All other distinctions are references to groups of individuals. How is Brad Pitt's effortless, luxurious life "balance" for the person starving to death with ebola and HIV? Or even to 40 year old kissless virgins in the west merely waiting to die? That's only "balance" in the eyes of some third party pontificating cunt, making no point of actual substance.

[Anonymous No.9494605]

>>9494576
But still, you're assigning moral values to something to which they are not applicable. You only think that a lion eating a gazelle is evil because you were born and grew up in a late 20th/early 21st century first world human environment. Try telling a hunter-gatherer that everything he's ever known and experienced is some kind of grotesque abomination

[Anonymous No.9494613]

>>9494602
>How is Brad Pitt's effortless, luxurious life "balance" for the person starving to death with ebola and HIV? Or even to 40 year old kissless virgins in the west merely waiting to die?

I'm not the guy you were replying to, but I find it very silly how you're ascribing to nature a situation that is purely the fault of humans (societal inequality).

[Anonymous No.9494621]

>>9493678
>>9493909
Nigga someday we're gonna live in space stations in orbit while Mars is terraformed into an agricultural planet. This shit is PROGRESS and it is going to save us when our species threatens to overpopulate Earth.
You wanna fix those fucked up poor-ass countries? Then go learn politics and economics so you can fix their corruption and infrastructure issues so people don't have to keep giving them handouts. Everyone donates water to Africans without realizing that they wouldn't need the water if they had functioning water utilities. Teach a man to fish.

[Anonymous No.9494636]

>>9494621
>Nigga someday we're gonna live in space stations in orbit while Mars is terraformed into an agricultural planet. This shit is PROGRESS and it is going to save us when our species threatens to overpopulate Earth.
Will literally never happen, naive fantasy

[Anonymous No.9494648]

>>9492048
Did he just prove the earth is flat like a pancake?

[Anonymous No.9494650]

>>9493678
Literally every overpriced starbucks "coffee" drink you buy would be better put into the hands of a "poor cold innocent homeless man"
but you drink that shit anyway

[Anonymous No.9494653]

>>9494621
We will never do anything with Mars sadly. Asteroid mining will be cool and a long time from now we might find a way to travel space faster and go to useful places.

Mars is completely useless.

[Anonymous No.9494675]

>>9494636
Pessimism is just as dangerous as optimism buddy, right now we're taking baby steps in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.9494685]

>>9494653
Mars would make a good testbed for terraforming experiments. But for the same effort, you could probably build thousands of habitats inside asteroids instead.

[Anonymous No.9494690]

>>9492115
But people got what they wanted lmao.

[Anonymous No.9494698]

>>9494636
Trying is better than giving up like a faggot.

>>9494653
Yeah the Mars thing was overly optimistic. We'd need a fuckload of atmospheric gases and water just to get started, not sure how long it would take to develop the tech just for extracting and transporting that much gas not to mention the cost of the effort.

[Anonymous No.9494700]

>>9494605
Any human that doesn't immediately put captured prey out of its misery and suffering is evil and deserves the same fate. Nature is similarly evil because it has given rise to a system where most of its predators aren't even aware of others' experiential phenomenon. Humans CAN be evil because of their choices; nature just IS evil. There are no choices, it has simply given rise to, for example, lions, which will eat gazelles as they writhe in pain and fear because they aren't intelligent or empathetic enough to know to do otherwise.

Contrast the nature we know against a hypothetical version designed deliberately by a benevolent creator and what would you find? You certainly wouldn't find prey being tortured to death as an inherent feature.

[Anonymous No.9494710]

>>9494685
>testbed for terraformong.
Indeed. We would need to do absolutely everything to make it earth like. It pretty much only has a solid surface in common with earth.

Even the soil contains toxins that would poison all crops grown there if you fixed everything else about the planet. The plants would be okay but your bone marrow wouldnt.

[Anonymous No.9494718]

>>9494685
getting the core molten again is gonna take some doing, hopefully we haven't used all the nukes on ourselves by then.

[Anonymous No.9494720]

>>9494698
By the time we have the tech and the materials to do ANYTHING with Mars we will be doing better things elsewhere. Space habitats, orbital mining and manufacture. People in suspended animation going to useful places. Etc.

[Anonymous No.9494792]

>>9494718
you'd be better off just trying to make an artificial magnetosphere instead of trying to reheat it with nukes

>>9494698
and para-terraforming would be better than trying to remake the entire atmosphere
just dome over a section of ground with some transparent metal (or equivalent) and make a breathable atmosphere inside that

[Anonymous No.9494810]

>>9494139
Like fucking what, anon

[Anonymous No.9494836]

Could someone please, PLEASE, explain to me what the fuck it's all that shit flying around in SPACE in the Starman livestream?

[Anonymous No.9494863]

>>9494836
probably just ice that's broken off, you usually see it flying around the second stage, it comes from the tanks

[Anonymous No.9494866]

>>9494836
Dust and particulate from the car

[Anonymous No.9494875]

Is that a satellite that's flashing behind it like that?

[Anonymous No.9494887]

>>9494875
nah it's just stuff floating around behind the car catching the sunlight

[Anonymous No.9494888]

>>9492048
Sorry

[Anonymous No.9494901]

>>9492048
>>9494467

[Anonymous No.9495003]

>>9492048
Sorry for doubting you musk. You are the man.

[Anonymous No.9495036]

>>9493678
Your fucking pc you used to type this useless fucking comment was born because one dreamer wanted his nation to overcome the other and set foot on the moon first, go fuck yourself you're not better than 14 yo chicks tweeting #resistcapitalism from their newest iPhone their dad got them.

[Anonymous No.9495039]

>>9492048
I will be the first one man enough to say it. I admit I was wrong Sir. Elon Musk I Apologize.

[Anonymous No.9495052]

>>9494490
Venezuela literally isn't Socialist by any fucking metric. It's Social Democratic with a mostly private economy.

USSR is considered "Socialist" by Leninists and nobody else. The USSR literally called itself "State-Capitalist" but Leninists think "State-Capitalism = Socialism" because it's on the "path" to Socialism.

>accepted as socialism by all contemporary mainstream schools of socialism

Literally only by Leninists and their offshoots.
Anarchists, Leftcoms, Marxists etc would not consider the USSR Socialist.

[Anonymous No.9495056]

>>9495052

[Anonymous No.9495069]

>>9495056
>means of production have been seized.

Fucking kek. Most European countries have a larger public sector than Venezuela. Venezuela's economy is mostly private.

[Anonymous No.9495071]

>>9492048
No, Tesla is a financial joke, and the hypermeme is bullshit

[Anonymous No.9495082]

>>9495069
I'm not the guy you were arguing with. I just think the gif is funny and this was a good chance to post it.
Also
>Venezuela
>Having an economy

[Anonymous No.9495083]

>>9494863
>>9494866
To me it doesn't have sense that those thing fly away like rockets.

[Anonymous No.9495087]

>>9495052
>>9495069
>Venezuela literally isn't Socialist by any fucking metric
>except being run by the united socialist party of venezuela, everything being run by the state, social communes, or "private" companies reporting directly to the state, being called socialist by socialists for a decade...
That 24% by 2014 is grossly underrepresentative

[Anonymous No.9495102]

>>9495056
Also "seizing the means of production" isn't Socialism if the structure of society is still just the production of commodities to produce profit. It's literally State-Capitalism.

As I already explained. Leninists ADMIT it's State-Capitalism, they just think "Duur muh State-Capitalism will eventually become Socialism because historical development" that Capitalism is Socialism.

>>9495087
Because a party calls itself "Socialist" doesn't make it a Socialist party. Is the French "Socialist" party Socialist? No, it's center-right Neoliberal. Is UK Labour "Socialist"? Nope, Center-Neoliberal (and center-right under Blair), what about the Australian Labor party, literally part of the Third Socialist International, nope, Center-right Neoliberal.

>everything being run by the state
27% of the economy run by the state.

>Social communes, or "private" companies reporting directly to the state

Still not Socialist. The economy is still private with production to produce profit. At best, part of the economy is State-Capitalist, but barely anyway.

>being called socialist by socialists for a decade...

Because Leninists are fucking dumbasses who think Capitalism is Socialism? Water is Wet.

[Anonymous No.9495128]

>>9492048
he is an autist and doesnt like public transport.

[Anonymous No.9495135]

>>9495102
Timmy, you and your fringe friends over plebbit aren't mainstream socialism. Mainstream socialism accepted and embraced Venezuela and the whole Foro de Sao Paulo as socialist, just as they in turn did with the Soviet Union, Cambodia, China and Cuba. You hiding your head under a rock after everything [COLLAPSED] won't change reality.

[Anonymous No.9495142]

>>9492048
Sorry for what? Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks.

[Anonymous No.9495171]

>>9495036
Capitalism didn't produce my PC, workers did.

[Anonymous No.9495204]

>>9495102
>27% of the economy run by the state.
You don't actually believe that, do you?

[Anonymous No.9495263]

>>9493678
Fuck the Poor.

[Anonymous No.9495278]

>>9495135
Venezuela's economy is NOTHING like the economy of Leninist states.
Where in Leninist states did they keep private business and just throw certain price controls on certain good?
If Venezuela is Socialist, then Nixon America during the 70s was Socialist due to the fixed wage and price controls.

[Anonymous No.9495299]

>>9495102
>27% of the economy run by the state.
holy fuck

[Anonymous No.9495328]

>>9493678
Oh my god you are fucking retarded.

Distribution of wealth means nothing if we can't reassure our survival.

[Anonymous No.9495330]

>>9495299
Come out with world bank data that says otherwise.
Venezuela has a smaller state run economy than most European countries.
Even if it had 100% state run economy, still wouldn't make it Socialist.

[Anonymous No.9495334]

>>9495328
>Distribution of wealth means nothing if we can't reassure our survival.

Then why are billions being wasted on useless shit like sending a car into space rather than Climate Change mitigation or fusion power generation?

[Anonymous No.9495375]

>>9495334
>concentrating all money and research in the fields YOU think are important
>instead of spreading it in a reasonable manner over the fields rocket science & astronomy, physics, biology, ecology, humanitarian sciences and the rest
Sorry, that 'cool space shit' made the whole complex fucking thing we're using for this discussion possible, cheap, available and now kinda necessary.

[Anonymous No.9495389]

>>9495375
Literally what point is there sending people to Mars?
What is the point? Sure there is cool scientific ideas about the geology, possible life etc. But that's really just sating our curiosity.

The FACT is, there are far more important issues on earth and Space is largely just countries and (and not private individuals) stroking their own egos and wanking over themselves.
Beyond Satellites, Space is pretty much pointless.

[Anonymous No.9495464]

>>9495389
1. Resources on Earth are limited. Once it's economically viable (and it seems we're going that way), even without actually living in space, we can get stuff from it instead of drilling your beloved Mother Earth till there's nothing left.
2. Space on Earth is limited. Yes, a decently planned arcology system might allow us to house trillions on Earth without suffering hunger. But there'll be no arcologies on Earth in the next few millennia - it requires the scope of planning we as a species are not capable yet. And building the said planet-spanning arcology will require resources and energy from space - we probably don't have enough here.
3. Long-term survivability of Earth is limited. We either establish permanent self-sustaining bases everywhere we can reach as soon as possible - or we'll be fucked by time and space, figuratively. An asteroid might hit one planet or moon, but not another at the same time. Same goes for solar CMEs. Same (but on the scale of solar systems, not planets) goes for GRBs, nearby supernovas, aging of the Sun and so on.
We should solve problems on Earth for sure. But concentrating on Earth ONLY will lead to our downfall. If not in a century, then in a millennia. Not in a millennia - in a million years.
If early humans never left Central Africa - they probably would've been wiped out by the first thing (animal, weather pattern, disease, you name it) they couldn't adapt to rapidly enough. Spreading out allowed us to survive and prosper; and the history will repeat itself again and again.

[Anonymous No.9495471]

>>9494621
LMAO this redditor actually believes this

[Anonymous No.9495473]

>>9493615
Will they have higher quality of it later?

Also the guy that oversaw cameras during launch, that showed the same booster twice and didn't show fairing deployment when music hit, should have been the passenger here. No suit required.

[Anonymous No.9495517]

This will make you think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY

[Anonymous No.9495541]

>>9495517
That was the shittiest 'song' I've heard in years, even without regards to it's intended message, which is:
>WHY DON'T THEY SOLVE MY PROBLEMS FIRST ALTHOUGH ALL I DO IS COMPLAINING

[Anonymous No.9495601]

>StarMAN
>not StarWOMAN

[Anonymous No.9495667]

>thread got derailed by a commie troll
I can't believe you guys didn't just report him and moved on.

[Anonymous No.9495695]

>>9495667
>reporting people
Hola Reddit

[Anonymous No.9495727]

>>9495667
Communists can post too you faggot, that's the whole point of this website, EVERYONE can post WHATEVER they want (accept cp)

[Anonymous No.9495732]

>>9495727
>accept cp
no brother we deny cp

[Anonymous No.9495734]

>>9495732
oh wow I'm a fucking brainlet

[Anonymous No.9495737]

>>9495732
>>9495727
>he dosen't post cp

[Anonymous No.9495752]

>>9495734
It's just a freudian slip. Happens to the best of us, bud.

[Anonymous No.9495779]

>>9495727
CP stands for Communist Party though

[Anonymous No.9495800]

>>9495779
wrong

[Anonymous No.9496043]

>>9493678
>implying feeding the poor benefits me

[Anonymous No.9496055]

>>9493278
Gr8 b8 m8, I'd r8 an 8.

[Anonymous No.9496090]

>>9494621
I can't tell if you are trolling but I will respond. What you just described is a minimum Thousand-Year process to which we have no technology or any means of getting there. Not to mention the astronomical amount of money it would cost. Last Leaf we ever got to that point I can guarantee you if it actually benefited anyone it would be all funnel towards the elite. Everything you see in here is a lie, and I know that is a cliche and a tip Fedora comment but ill be damned if it isn't right

[Anonymous No.9496098]

>>9492048
I apologize.

[Anonymous No.9496136]

>>9496098
But algorithms from Google cant apologize...

I don't know what the hell is going on with this thread, but I know that and you real person on this board wouldn't click on this thread just post some dumb comment like that apologizing to a billionaire. What the hell is going on here is this some kind of mass push for everyone to like Elon Musk as he sucks up more money to go to the fake Mars planet?

[Anonymous No.9496178]

>>9494378

>If they had put a "useful payload" ...

But they didn't. So it was a waste from the start.

Musk should shoot himself into the asteroid belt next time.

[Anonymous No.9496180]

>>9492866
>>9493063

[Anonymous No.9496183]

>>9492048
>lose your main rocket
b-but the 2 side boosters successfully landed. Mission Success!!

Back to the testing phase Elon, this accomplished nothing considering the side boosters were already capable of re-landing

[Anonymous No.9496226]

>>9496183
but aren't the three boosters the same?

[Anonymous No.9496229]

>>9496183
being this retarded

[Anonymous No.9496235]

>>9496183

[Anonymous No.9496237]

>>9496183
weaboo faggots trolling as usual

[Anonymous No.9496243]

>>9496183
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.9496250]

>>9492827
Why shouldnt he be?

[Anonymous No.9496252]

>>9492827
This is what peak capitalism looks like, friend. It's beautiful.

[Anonymous No.9496255]

>>9494139
Early big rocket prototypes usually carry ballast because of the risk. Look at the first Titan 3 launch, or the block 1 Saturn 1.

[Anonymous No.9496258]

>>9494056
They weren't state capitalist, they were true socialist. Not only that but over 100 million people dead due to mass killing and starvation wasn't "socialist accident", it was planned from the start and basically main goal of the socialism. That's what you get when you build ideology on malevolence, bitterness, jealousy and hatred.

[Anonymous No.9496259]

>>9492048
test

[Anonymous No.9496273]

The crossboarders yesterday were fucking disgusting
can't say I remember when I last felt so much retention, all the brainlet troglodytes jerking off at that pathetic display, fucking kys

[Anonymous No.9496299]

>not wanting socialism
>still hanging onto emotional baggage such as pride, 'deserve'
We really do deserve to burn

[Anonymous No.9496306]

>>9493678
Could you say the same thing about the voyages of Columbus?

[Anonymous No.9496312]

>>9493678
>It means literally nothing if humans land on mars.
It means God lied. We were never destined to worship Him. We were destined to BE worshiped by others.

>You know that that "cool space shit" will never benefit you, right?
Implying that space R&D has never benefited me and never will is like saying the advent of accessible clean water has and will never benefit me.

>Actually, it does mean something, it represents a colossal amount of money, time and resources going towards something that helps nobody.
Again, imagine that we never figured out nuclear physics, plastics, aerodynamics, or rocketry. All of those were developed from causes that didn't benefit the poor or the needy, such as war and space exploration.

>A society is best reflected by how it treats its poor and vulnerable.
That is exactly what the Soviet Union thought, and then they had nothing but absolute success when it came to feeding their citizens, preventing cancer spikes caused by well-maintained and astutely-observed nuclear reactors, and a steady flow of industrial products being produced for a marker that needed them.
Oh wait.

Bleeding hearts will one day finally bleed out and I can't wait for that day.

[Anonymous No.9496315]

A guy from Canada says....
Elon Musk is pretty cool guy. Keep up the good work man!

[Anonymous No.9496321]

>>9493819
>I am an upper middle class white guy: the post

I'm on the verge of poverty in Memphis and I can agree with the guy you're trying to discredit. Fuck off back to whatever commune you crawled out of and realize that throwing money at a problem won't fix it.

[Anonymous No.9496324]

>>9496321
And I'm Alberta Einstein, tranny Einstein from a parallel universe

[Anonymous No.9496325]

>>9493821
>That's the exact line of thinking that's gotten our planet to the state it's in today
Well, ideally we'd be using clean energy for everything and creating an infrastructure that facilitates or demands recycling like in Japan, where your garbage is and must be divided by variety. Try working on the larger issues and not telling everyone to dump money into gimmedats so people can be fed and still remain virtually economically useless beyond what manual labor their body could be used for.

[Anonymous No.9496337]

>>9493909
>Fuck me, right?
Yes. Fuck you.

Your sales pitch for encroaching on economic viability isn't getting eaten up by the masses and your halfhearted pass at emotional outrage with "muh starving kids" and "poor people" isn't making it look any better. The systems we have no practically demand that food go to waste. We produce more food than we could possibly need at this moment as a species, and yet people starve to death every day.

It's not the fault of funding. It's a fault in the system. Don't pretend that dumping money into a problem is going to magically fix it.

You're telling us to give a crutch to a guy with a broken arm. Don't fix the right problem with the wrong tools, mate.

[Anonymous No.9496363]

>>9492048
I'm sorry mister Musk.

[Anonymous No.9496370]

>>9494122
>then why can't it have healthcare free at the point of use like in the UK or Scandinavia?

UK: 63,181,775 people
Scandanavia: ~20,000,000 people

Both countries have relatively homogeneous societies, high population density, and the VAST majority of citizens speak the official state language with proficiency.

USA: 325,719,178 people
Regional values, dialects, and cultural norms are different from state to state, but there are no less than six distinct regions grouped together. Many citizens cannot speak the official state language with proficiency. The country spans an entire continent.

Gee, I wonder why small, densely-packed nations are able to produce affordable healthcare and this gigantic, continent-spanning one isn't able to get its shit together. It's like administrative networks break down when they're the size of North America and 90% of their population doesn't live on a straight fucking line along the 49th parallel.

[Anonymous No.9496377]

>>9496370
>homogenous societies
muh race
>speak the language
esl
other than that I agree

[Anonymous No.9496383]

>>9493560
wouldn't have been a better way in history to experience first contact

millions people watching a car in space with cameras for a stunt
SWOOOSH alien space vessel the size of new york zooms into view
Already displayed DON'T PANIC becomes ironic
>Aliens just abduct the car and leave

[Anonymous No.9496388]

>>9492048

I hereby and formally apologize. You're >>9492115 right to hate the meme-car, and the "don't panic" panel was extra-reddit, but that's not the real takeaway.

The real takeaway was how smoothly and perfectly the boosters landed. That is the pertinent object lesson.

I apologize. May you never get a girlfriend again, Elon.

[Anonymous No.9496389]

>>9492048
Elon is my hero. You naysayers are just mad jealous. Anyone who didnt get hard watching falcon heavy today has no business on this board.
>hurr Elon didnt build the rocket durr
No shit. When it comes down to it though, we would not be landing rockets right now if it wasnt for our lord and savior Elon Musk.

[Anonymous No.9496392]

>>9494378
>Every test should be treated as if it's going to be a wild success, so we should load up unfathomably expensive items into each and every one on and ignore the chance that the entire payload could be destroyed.

There's the real waste, anon. Think before you look at the keyboard and peck out another reply.

[Anonymous No.9496396]

>>9496392
Fuck, that was meant for >>9496178

[Anonymous No.9496399]

>>9493678
Or, hear me out. We could let all the poor people starve to death and get on with our lives. Once they are gone we wont need to spend money helping them. Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.9496404]

>>9496377
>muh race
Culturally, you twit. I don't give a fuck about race. If two people have the same values and customs, it shouldn't matter what color they are; they're both of the same culture.
>esl
As a second language that would be great. The fact of the matter is that there is a large portion of American society that cannot understand/speak/write in the language accepted by the state with enough proficiency to maintain their lives themselves.
>other than that I agree
Thank you, anon.

[Anonymous No.9496406]

>>9494540

The guy that you've been arguing with (not me) is basically right, and you are basically wrong. Nature is fucking evil. The only meaningful or useful criteria for good and evil, from the only relevant frame of reference, the human one, eventually require a hedonic view of things. If

There is some 18th-ish century quote which puts all this very poetically, how the minute nature treads into animal life, it's constant pain and suffering everywhere, all the time, without end.

Nature is god-damn evil. To state such is a perfectly valid philosophical view. If you reject the anti-hedonic image of the crocodile tearing open the zebra's bowels, then you lose the argument by default. The zebra is feeling that, all the time.

[Anonymous No.9496408]

[Anonymous No.9496420]

>>9496383
>Hey thanks for the sweet ride Earthfags see you later

[Anonymous No.9496426]

>>9496404
>If two people have the same values and customs, it shouldn't matter what color they are; they're both of the same culture.

[Anonymous No.9496516]

>>9496426
race does not denote culture
culture does not denote race

This is basic logic here, anon.

[Anonymous No.9496549]

>>9494373
Pic related is cooler

[Anonymous No.9496580]

Elon, the absolute mad man

[Anonymous No.9496581]

Have we really gone this long without a Heavy Metal reference?

[Anonymous No.9496741]

>>9492866
the rocket thingy opening was on repeat at the end of the stream you tard

[Anonymous No.9496836]

>>9496370
Not really. Most of the cost is probably due to thinks like...

>Americans suing the hell out of doctors every chance they get.
>Lack of price controls, so providers set any price they want
>Less emphasis on preventative care, so Americans wait until the problem gets worse until they end up in the hospital with unpayed medical bills
>Inefficiencies that come with insurance companies. Like spending on advertising and denying preventative care

[Anonymous No.9496861]

>>9492048
I'm getting vibes of major dad issues from this guy.

[Anonymous No.9496863]

>>9496861
Are you sure you're not just projecting yours?

[Anonymous No.9496867]

>>9496863
No I'm going by the many interviews where he sperges out and starts crying when asked about his dad, yet cannot clearly articulate what the problem is. Also the way that people who know both have described him as a carbon copy of the old man. Driven with his eyes on the horizon to the point of being mechanical.

[Anonymous No.9496884]

>>9494062
Tough luck faggot, it impacted the drone ship which is why the live feed got btfo'd. Keep trying next time

[Anonymous No.9496896]

>>9496229
>>9496226
>>9496235
>>9496237
>>9496243
He is right you know. The core, the main point of this test was lost. We already knew that Heavy is capable making it to the orbit from previous tests.

From technical standpoint the launch is a failure, fuck back to kekkit to gulp your PR semen

[Anonymous No.9496898]

>>9496896
Nice butthurt, ULA shill. Keep my cup filled with your tears

[Anonymous No.9496905]

>>9496896
Keep crying Bezos

[Anonymous No.9496912]

It's absolutely appalling how much money is wasted by being poured into welfare and GIBS instead of things that will actually matter. In an ideal world that money would have went towards building rockets instead

[Anonymous No.9496921]

>>9493560

[Anonymous No.9496946]

>>9492048
Will they ever recover?

[Anonymous No.9496967]

>>9493466
That's pretty sweet

[Anonymous No.9497075]

>>9496921
Can I get a post-apo setting?

[Generation Z No.9497133]

>>9493278
>feeding niggers
>implying they won't multiply and breed more

>not investing shitload of money in space and human immortality

[Anonymous No.9497287]

>>9496946
Their best hope is Vulcan Heavy with engine recovery and ACES

[Anonymous No.9497347]

>>9496896
Well, all the cores used were previous generation models that they weren't going to reuse further so it's not a catastrophic loss. Hopefully they got some useful data from the crash.

[Anonymous No.9497370]

Give it to me straight, lads. Will Elon Musk make Neo-Venezia real?

[Anonymous No.9497397]

>>9496516
Give it up. Some people will never understand what truly connects human beings, and the irony is that that is what separates him and his kind from those he hates so much.

[Anonymous No.9497608]

>>9493278
Maximum bait

[Anonymous No.9497863]

>>9493678
why live? it's a waste of money, time and resources

practice what you preach and kill yourself my friend

[Anonymous No.9497874]

>>9494085
>cooperation
voluntary cooperation

and you can still compete against other cooperating "teams"

[Anonymous No.9497882]

>>9493278
>implying space research won't allow increased housing in the future
>implying there aren't BIGGER and more wasteful activities humans do

[Anonymous No.9497889]

Round Earthers can put a car in space but flat Earthers can't even get a rocket off the ground.

[Anonymous No.9497971]

>>9492258
during the live stream I *think* i heard someone say "we lost the core", i rewinded (saw it on youtube), and that's what it sounds like - but who knows?

Most likely it crashed or failed in some manner, otherwise we would've known it by now.

Regardless this was just a test, landing of the Core was not the main objective at all - SpaceX considers this a success and I am inclined to agree.

Both the car, space suit and boosters had excellent performance :)

[Anonymous No.9497982]

>>9492827
? what do you mean?

Why is he allowed to create a space program company?

Why is he allowed to hire enough people to successfully launch several rockets and deliver supplies to space stations?

Why is he allowed to fund development to create rocket parts that return back to earth in order to drastically reduce cost of sending stuff to space?

Why is he allowed to put hardware (in this case, his old car) on a path for deep space in a test for his new rocket with self landing parts?

Just what exactly is your objection?

[Anonymous No.9497998]

>>9493278
Spoken like a true retard that has no idea about the actual costs of things.

Protip: its *not* the cost of space exploration that's keeping people poor, hungry and exploited.

[Anonymous No.9498012]

>>9493477
If your anger leads you to space exploration, then you're being red herring'd

[Anonymous No.9498023]

>>9493595
So, are you actually doing something about it - or are you just being self righteous to sate your own ego?

[Anonymous No.9498026]

>>9493678

[Anonymous No.9498030]

He's more of a successful and lucky enabler. I don't like people idolizing him because if government policies weren't retarded it wouldn't need him to achieve this.

[Anonymous No.9498035]

>>9495171
Did the USSR or Venezuela produce PC equivalent technology?

[Anonymous No.9498041]

>>9496180
From the stream.

[Anonymous No.9498045]

>>9493953
this.

The amount of butthurt\outrage over "A CAR LAUNCHED TO SPACE!!!1111oneoneonezerone!!" compared to any other mass is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.9498047]

>>9496252
A better one

[Anonymous No.9498049]

>>9496252
javascript:quote('9498041')

[Anonymous No.9498068]

>>9494139
retard, this was a rocket test - you think its better to put something worth billions on a test they're not even sure is going to launch?

the car was just there to provide some weight for the test, if they didn't use a car they would've used something like a plain ol'e concrete block.

[Anonymous No.9498085]

>>9494331
This is strange, you're hating on this launch yet you want better space exploration?

Have you any idea what the purpose of this *test* flight was?

If you want Space Exploration and the next step of human evolution, you should be celebrating this...

[Anonymous No.9498097]

>>9496178
confirmed retard.

you're seriously suggesting they put billion dollar payloads in something that they have no idea would explode or not? on something that's not much better then a prototype?

You clearly have no idea, ability or interest in understanding the importance of this flight.

[Anonymous No.9498129]

>>9495334
the fact that you think that sending a car into space is "useless shit" just shows how incredibly ignorant you are.

I suggest you sit down and read about the purpose of the mission.

A hint: the fucking car was just a cheap and minor pr stunt, a mass simulator for the *test* of this rocket.

[Anonymous No.9498147]

>>9496321
so throwing money at you won't fix your poverty? got it. will refrain.

[Anonymous No.9498151]

>>9496370
aaaand there it is; the good old "muh country too big!" bullshit argument.

[Anonymous No.9498156]

>>9496392
The amount of people that don't understand that this was a test to see if this shit would even work at all is staggering

[Anonymous No.9498162]

>>9496836
from a foreign perspective its amazing how the American health system is so well designed to utterly fuck over absolutely everyone

[Anonymous No.9498196]

He should apologize for using CGI and making people believe it is actually possibly to do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ht9JgI8hpY&feature=youtu.be

nly a Sheep will believe a car can go into the vacuum of space where temperatures reach over 3,000 degrees and survive without a scratch.

Nonsense.

[Anonymous No.9498240]

>>9492827
>why is he allowed to spend his money on something that advances technology and science?

i don't know because people can do whatever they want with their money.
Why are you allowed to spend your money on an internet conection if youre gonna post questions as retarded as that one

[Anonymous No.9498255]

>>9494490
Can't wait till you hear about China

[Anonymous No.9498314]

>>9493477
communist countries do space exploration too, while they're people starve

chrischins 1
athetits i

[Anonymous No.9498428]

>>9498314
>communist countries do space exploration too, while they're people starve
fun fact: the ussr had much less comfort but they were much better in every basic development index they had considerably less malnutrition, homelessnes, analphabetism and many more.

the problem is that basically this:

socialism: glorious system in which the proirity is that all children are well fed and have access to good education

capitalism: system in which the priority is that a bunch of people get pointless luxuries even if it means many children starving in a horrible way

this is still true of cuba, check the statistics by the united states controlled united nations, which doesnt lie

[Anonymous No.9499464]

>>9498428
I wonder why then, so many people were fleeing WARSAW pact countries and not the other way around...

>Yeah people pretty much lived slightly above squalor but at least they didn't have fidget spinners.

[Anonymous No.9499483]

>>9498428
Capitalist countries are objectively more successful than socialist countries even though Socialism might be better for the overall welfare of society (which it isn't really). You may not like how reality is, but I prefer more of my money going into rocket launches than funding poor people's high birth rate.

Rockets (that even though fail from a technical perspective but inspire people to say 'hey, if this retard can do it, so can i') > Welfare of poor people (who will be more of a reason for commies like you to say muh poor people aren't getting funded to pursue their degenerate polygamous lifestyles no ree crapitalism bad).

[Anonymous No.9500625]

>Come to /sci/ for the first time
>Expect logic and reasoning
>Get a bunch of niggers shouting about politics and capitalism
>Back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.9500647]

>>9499483
Further explanation on this?
Informationlet 18yo Anon here

[Anonymous No.9500673]

>>9493678
Why is everyone so homo for mars? I find this highly illogical. Shouldn't mankind first construct a spaceport on the moon?

[Anonymous No.9500675]

>>9498428

>socialism: glorious system

As someone from a post-socialist country, there was nothing glorious about socialism. It is a corrupt and grossly inefficient system that retarded our development by decades.

You dont need fucking socialism to provide access to education, food and healthcare. That is just a welfare state.

>pointless luxuries

Those "pointless luxuries" is what pushes humanity forward. If there is one thing that definitely trickles down, it is technology.

[Anonymous No.9500680]

>>9500673
Moon probably lacks volatiles such as hydrogen, nitrogen and carbon. A big issue if we want a self-sustaining colony.

Still, I agree that a moonbase should be the first step. Even Musk has said that we ought to have a moonbase by now.

[Anonymous No.9500737]

>>9496388
What could have been a better message to put into the panel? BENIS?

[Anonymous No.9501172]

>>9493678
Fuck off utilitarian monkey brained down syndrome. Who cares if some people are starving, only the advancement of the human species as a collective should be a priority.

I'll rephrase your phrase:

You know that that "poor children not being hungry" will never benefit the human species, right? Because its benefits are literally zero. It means literally nothing if some poor people eat instead of starving.

This is how retarded you sound.

[Anonymous No.9501188]

>>9493678
It's crazy how some people will always critizise Space Exploration SO TIRELESSLY and out of context. Why come you only shout about this "misallocation of resources" when regarding space? Do you realize way much more, and I mean WAY much more is spend every year in making stupid fucking movies, the military, or literally everything else? Why won't I hear you complaining about how much movies cost and how that money should be used to feed children?

Why do y'all niggas (whoever your crew is) have such a hateboner for space?

[Anonymous No.9501193]

Appologize? To a complete fraud!? Are you mad? This whole space industry is total bullshit this car is sitting in a child bathtub you morons bubbles and graphical glitches everywhere in the live stream. And how the hell does a rocket make it out in space with its nose pointing down 30 degrees!?!

[Anonymous No.9501203]

>>9493819
El monstro...

[Anonymous No.9501217]

>>9496312
your hubristic mindset will be your undoing mark my words

[Anonymous No.9501281]

>>9493821
if we didn't have plastic you wouldn't be on your stupid fucking computer, and have half the shit you have. End your own life brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9501329]

The dude has twins and triplets, and is running multiple companies.

[Anonymous No.9501378]

>>9493678
>a colossal amount of money, time and resources going towards something that helps nobody
Reminds you of anything?

[Anonymous No.9501463]

>>9493278
>we need mo money for dem programs for da community
>how iz tyrone gonna buy new nikes when white peepole be dumpin money in space?

[Anonymous No.9501468]

>>9493278
think about the money we spend on sports.

Even worse, think about how much we spend on sports in education.

There is no reason a "school" should be allowed to waste 80% of its budget so a bunch of niggers can accumulate brain damage and a bunch of thots can become paraplegics.

[Anonymous No.9501478]

>>9493678
poor people were a mistake

I would literally be ok with an additional 30% tax that went to "poor" people to provide a basic income for food/housing/medical. Even though I know full well that no matter how much money you throw at poor people, they will always be poor. Being poor is literally a lifestyle choice.

That way I would never have to hear people whining about "muh poor people" ever again. If "poor" people still fuck it up from that point they deserve it and I can rub it in the faces of people who thought that poverty was not a choice.

Hopefully we just genocide poor people someday.

[Anonymous No.9501513]

>>9501468
Those programs bring a lot of money into the schools as well.
Education is in a pretty messed up state for a bunch of reasons. The teachers union, as well as shitty political influence on both sides just makes the whole thing a mess.

[Anonymous No.9501609]

>>9493819
>>9493771
>>9493678
fuck off to leftypol or even better, reddit

[Anonymous No.9501611]

>>9493063
earth is square like the moon and the sun

[Anonymous No.9501616]

>>9501478
There should be something like China's Hundred Flowers Campaign, but with welfare users instead of dissidents.

Expand welfare massively, encourage lazy bums to get on the dole, set up a welfare registry, wait 5 years. After 5 years, execute everyone that is still on welfare with death squads.

[Anonymous No.9501621]

>>9501281
>not replacing it with wood
weew lad
>>9501378
GIB ME MONY NO MOR SIENZ ZTUFF WIT BITCH

[Anonymous No.9501680]

>>9501478
Fuck you ya fuckin douche. Nobody chooses to have retarded ass parents. Being poor is fuckin hell and you wanna deny the fact that you're ignorant but you've never had to deal with the bullshit that comes with being poor. You can do everything right and have a full ride to an ivy league and your dumbass parents will still fuck it up, then die and ruin your credit with their debts, then you'll get screwed by people left and right without any recourse, and by the time you've finally gotten your shit together, some nignog will steal your shit cuz you live in the ghetto or some retard will tbone you and if you're lucky you will just die right there because the medical bills that aren't being paid by his no insurace having ass will fuck your ass until you have no ass.

Or a million other shitty things of course. But I'm sure you could get yourself out of a mess like that in record time without killing anybody or doing anything illegal oh and short ugly dudes can get super models etc etc fuck you bitch

[Anonymous No.9501866]

>>9493821
well, do you have solutions without any bad consequences whatsoever??

[Anonymous No.9501889]

>>9495171
>produce
built.

and who designed it??

[Anonymous No.9501893]

>>9492866
ur retarded.

[Anonymous No.9501895]

>>9500737

Yes. Benis would literally have been better.

[Anonymous No.9501902]

>>9501378
>billion dollar for space, pennies for the hungry.
hum... that's it, honey.
what about it??

[Anonymous No.9501904]

>>9501378
>a colossal amount of money, time and resources going towards something that helps nobody
>Reminds you of anything?
hmmm... wellfare??

[Anonymous No.9501922]

>>9494621 >>9495464 >>9494042
If you kill all Black Africans, there will be no starving people in Africa

[Anonymous No.9502098]

>>9493278
>>9493477
>>9493678
>>9493909
Of all the things you could criticize capitalism for, you complain about a guy launching his car into space?

>just feed the poor
Welfare only serves to buy the complacency of the working class and prolong their suffering. And publicity stunts like this is how Elon perpetuates his cult of personality and makes it easier to squeeze even more money out of investors and the government. It's much much more in line with his personal interests and the interests of his class than throwing money at some liberal-owned charity organization.

>>9501889
Computer engineers, who are also workers.

>>9499483
>Capitalist countries are objectively more successful than socialist countries
More successful in terms of what, GDP? :^)
>even though Socialism might be better for the overall welfare of society (which it isn't really)
In case you consider Marxism-Leninism to be socialism proper, here's a friendly reminder that one of Cuba's main exports is doctors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_medical_internationalism
>commies like you to say muh poor people aren't getting funded to pursue their degenerate polygamous lifestyles no ree crapitalism bad)
How much political corruption, gambling, fraud, exploitation, hard drug use, or prostitution do you think the average trailer-dweller from Appalachia is involved in? How about compared to the average Wall Street venture capital firm executive?

[Anonymous No.9502293]

Repent.

[Anonymous No.9502318]

>>9502098
>It's much much more in line with his personal interests and the interests of his class than throwing money at some liberal-owned charity organization.

I don't think a guy like Elon thinks in outdated categories like "social classes".

>Computer engineers, who are also workers

Not really though, since they have an income big enough to save up big amounts of money, they are probably also capital investors of some sort.

>More successful in terms of what, GDP? :^)

In terms of the populations of socialist countries migrating into capitalist countries, and not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.9502322]

>>9502293
He should hold an electric car in his other hand.

[Anonymous No.9502332]

>>9493909
You fucking idiot. Direct your anger towards multinational companies eho avoid paying tax instead.

[Anonymous No.9502428]

>>9493678
>A society is best reflected by how it treats its poor and vulnerable.

No.