retarded offspring of five monkeys having butt sex with a fish-squirrel!

[Anonymous No.9487663]

every carbon/nitrogen/hydrogen atom - not conscious
every nucleic acids/protein... - not conscious
every virus/cell - not conscious
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human - conscious

No mater how large, this series is finite, meaning - at some point in time, massive chemical reaction running on earth (life) rearranged matter in a way that it became conscious. The set of properties differentiating this form from each predecessor (ordered chronologically and evolutionary) in this list is, by definition, consciousness and any physical system having this set of properties must be considered conscious.

[Anonymous No.9487684]

>>9487663
>>9487663
going from top
you're conscious
your mommy is/was conscious
her predecessor was conscious
going down that path on the genealogical tree at some point, specific node had to be unconscious one, and somehow gained it or produced conscious offspring, could one of differences in their genomes be a gene of consciousness?

[Anonymous No.9487697]

>>9487663
>every carbon/nitrogen/hydrogen atom - not conscious
>every nucleic acids/protein... - not conscious
>every virus/cell - not conscious

Why? Are they not moving matter seeking bonds via pressure mediation? A carbon atom "knows" what it wants to bond to and what it doesn't. It's the very means of the method these elements use to rearrange themselves into something else. It's all emanation.

>No mater how large, this series is finite,

From nothing comes nothing. Something that has motion, has motion forever. Nothing "dies" it simply reverses the cycle. Integration, disintegration. Implying finite implies a start and/or end, which does not happen anywhere in nature. Your existence is never "started" nor "ending", you change constantly, like an atom with "no consciousness".

[Anonymous No.9487701]

this is revolutionary idea, faggots!

[Anonymous No.9487717]

>>9487697
Stop with this Alan Watts nonsense!
Nope, the key to consciousness lies in interaction between unconscious parts, it is emergent phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.9487734]

>>9487717
>Nope, the key to consciousness lies in interaction between unconscious parts, it is emergent phenomenon.

Oh you mean like between the inert bloch wall (inert,unconscious) and magnetism(radiant, emergent) found in every single thing in the universe?

[Anonymous No.9487742]

>>9487734
u wot m8?

[Anonymous No.9487746]

>>9487663
Define conscious and tell me why it is important.

[Anonymous No.9487753]

>>9487742
What the fuck do you mean "U wot". Name one thing that doesn't have a magnetic field (and therefore a blochwall by default). If you don't know what "bloch wall" "domain wall" or "dielectric field" is then don't continue because your pic will really be related to (((you))).

[Anonymous No.9487791]

>>9487663
be born - not conscious
1 month old - not conscious
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30 years old - conscious

Woah!

[Anonymous No.9487832]

>>9487791
be fresh red, smoking hot piece of new rock
1 day old - not conscious
1 month old - not conscious
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30 years old - not conscious
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3B tears old - not conscious

Damn...

[Anonymous No.9487846]

>>9487746
>>9487746
its hard, I wont define it by listing it's properties.

But you can assume that people are mostly conscious when alive and fully functional (lets not fuck with solipsism and boltzmann brain ideas) so they have the set of necessary properties.

Second assumption - simple, unstructured matter has no consciusness.

When simple unconscious matter start to undergo this funny local entropy minimising reaction called life for a while it can land on the conscious. And it is almost certain that the ability to have it is genetic and maybe the genes can be found.

[Anonymous No.9487851]

>>9487746
>>9487746
its hard, I wont define it by listing its properties.

But you can assume that people are mostly conscious when alive and fully functional (lets not fuck with solipsism and boltzmann brain ideas) so they have the set of necessary properties.

Second assumption - simple, unstructured matter has no consciusness.

When simple unconscious matter start to undergo this funny local entropy minimising reaction called life for a while it can land on the conscious. And it is almost certain that the ability to have it is genetic and maybe the genes can be found.