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Anonymous Sat Jan 27 00:44:07 2018 No.9464033 [Reply] [Original]

Does anyone have information about teaching kids math on a fast track? I want to homeschoole my kids when I have them and I know there must be ways much more efficient than how they're taught at school. In particular I remember an article where a tutor used a teaching method on an ADHD first grader that she says would have got him started on calculus by fourth or fifth grade. Any info or input would be helpful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 02:30:58 2018 No.9464211 >>9464033 There is this 10'000 hours theory. Polgar used it and his 3 daughters became world class chess players, Judith by far the best woman ever, and the only woman so far ho could compete with men. Take a look at polgar may be worth it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 02:33:26 2018 No.9464215 File: 92 KB, 725x944, 1515070830321.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9464033 I remember someone posted what you said. Search in the archives?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 02:41:41 2018 No.9464225 >>9464215 Was it this one OP? >https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rave-mehta/reclaiming-our-world-rank_b_6413910.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 03:12:19 2018 No.9464276 >>9464225 No, but that's a good article.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 03:23:12 2018 No.9464293 >>9464225 >>9464276 Actually yes, this was the article, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 07:29:53 2018 No.9464587 File: 240 KB, 509x583, ale karelin2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9464033

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 07:45:30 2018 No.9464621

>>9464225
>How I Taught a 6-Year-Old Algebra in Four Months
>I was asked to tutor a 6-year old boy named Brad, who was starting first grade, for an hour a night for four nights a week
>4 months = ~120 days
>120 * 4 / 7 = ~69 hours
It's a made up story and you should feel bad if you believe it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 07:48:39 2018 No.9464626 >>9464033 Don't homeschool your kids. It's vital to your kid's emotional development that he is out there experiencing the real world instead of being sheltered by helicopter parents.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 08:39:24 2018 No.9464726 >>9464626 >School >Real world Pick one

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 11:33:39 2018 No.9465059

>>9464626
100% valid. if you want your kid to like math, get him interested in problem solving video games so that he wants to do it in his free time for fun. For example, Dragonbox is a great app for little kids. Teaches literal Algebra 1 topics through a very fun, very well disguised game. If your kid likes minecraft, have him try out Feed The Beast or other engineering packs to get him interested in science topics. An early introduction to easy sudoku / kenken puzzles can make kids more receptive to puzzling and math facts.

By making it school, and forcing them to learn a ton of math, you make sure that they'll be autistic, asocial, and unpassionate about the subject. The best mathematicians and scientists are born out of those who gain a love and excitement for the subject from a young age, which drives them to take initiative and learn more for themselves.
Maybe AFTER they love the subject, you can teach them some calculus and stuff and move straight into abstract math for junior high school. No one ever forced me to do math and I had a good grasp of Calc 1 by the end of 8th grade, and should have continued to Calc 2 and beyond. Instead I sat there and didn't take Calc 2 until junior year. Just make sure that stupid shit doesn't happen and they'll be done with undergrad before undergrad. But I really, REALLY would not homeschool your kid at least through Elementary School, unless you want them to have absolutely no social skills.

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 11:42:47 2018 No.9465072

>>9465059
The dragonbox website right here:
http://dragonbox.com/
Would highly suggest the Math Starter Pack, Algebra 5+ is especially good. My younger brother played it as a 5 year old and was able to understand everything very well. Now that he's 10, he's pretty obsessed with learning "real algebra" (which he could have done far earlier had we just have gotten the next one, 12+. I playtested the beta versions of 5+, 12+, and Elements and they were all super good).
Elements goes through basic geometry proofs, which I think is more important as a place to start with kids before you get into calculus stuff. Geometry is the first time that a kid learns what math is really about, building new results from old ones.

One big suggestion for further down the line. Between Calc 2 and Multi, STICK IN DISCRETE MATH. It's just so important to have good foundations in those topics and so many people wait until post Lin Alg / Diff Eqs to learn basic proof, combinatorics, probability, and logic. With some discrete math you can have them do a MUCH better Linear Algebra curriculum using something theoretic like Axler, as opposed to applied trash. In this sense, you're swapping between Solving and Proving classes.
Algebra, Geometry, Trig/Calc, Discrete, Multi, LinAlg, DiffEqs, and then of course your kid should decide whether to go for group theory or real analysis first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 13:44:29 2018 No.9465359 >>9464626 Fuck off brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 13:46:11 2018 No.9465361 >>9464626 homeschooling doesn't necessitate parents being helicopter parents

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 15:31:13 2018 No.9465652

>>9464726
>"I'm so glad I got really good at school subjects at the small cost of being a no friend weirdo for the rest of my life" -totally every homeschooled kid
when your kid inevitably kills himself when he realizes his dad traded his social skills and future happiness for sick calculus skills remember this thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 15:43:01 2018 No.9465692 Well-planned homeschooling + adequate social interaction with other kids (small community and/or lots of extracurricular activities). Possible but requires great parental skills.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 15:54:43 2018 No.9465718 >>9465652 When your kid inevitably kills himself after being bullied by public school niggers for sick calculus skills remember this thread.

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 16:32:36 2018 No.9465803

>>9464621
Through tutor:

1 hr. per night
4 nights per week
4 months total = ~120 days.

~120 days * 1/7 weeks/day = ~17 weeks
1hr/night * 4nights/week = 4hrs/week
4hrs/week * ~17weeks = ~68 hours total

In school:

~180 day school year
(typically) 45 min of algebra per day
60 min/hr

45min/day*180days/60min/hr = 135 hours total

68hrs vs. 135hrs means that the tutor teaches him math ~2x as fast as the school system. Given that the school system focuses on groups of students rather than individuals, and tutoring focuses on the specific abilities of the student, the story seems believable to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 16:51:50 2018 No.9465848 >>9465803 Most homeschool parents report that they give about 4 hours of instruction a day and public school lasts 8 hours so that 200% figure does seem accurate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 19:42:02 2018 No.9466166 File: 548 KB, 700x4180, 1st algebra.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9464033

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 19:43:26 2018 No.9466170 >>9464621 >t. butthurt CS major who took till the 2nd year of university to pass college algebra.

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 20:02:33 2018 No.9466219

>>9465803
>(typically) 45 min of algebra per day

Ha. In the first grade (and up to the 6th grade) you're luck if you get 45 minutes of new instruction per WEEK. The other days are spent drilling the same arithmetic worksheets. I fucking hated it and vividly remember complaining about it often (and being ignored).

My elementary age nephews report similar experiences today.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 20:33:19 2018 No.9466298 >>9466219 That's what happens when you have to work at the same pace as the dumbest nigger in the class.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 20:34:56 2018 No.9466300 >>9466166 >Fake news: The blogpost

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 20:55:52 2018 No.9466338

>>9464033
Teach them basic logical reasoning first, then teach them about set theory then teach them about arithmetic with the knowledge behind why cuz you can already explain it with logic then teach them algebra which you can also explain and show with both set theory and logic again then you can go the geometry route which would be pretty for them to understand considering the foundations from there you can go on to basic trig and further expand upon it after you teach them about law of sines cosines ect.. then precalc then calc with an emphasis on proving why they are doing what they are doing I would recommend spivak for that specifically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 20:59:59 2018 No.9466345 File: 119 KB, 1216x970, sci education reform.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9464033

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 21:32:42 2018 No.9466404 >>9466345 I like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 21:43:41 2018 No.9466424 Is the classical method the best for homeschooling? Does anyone have experience with homeschooling?

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 21:54:15 2018 No.9466431

>>9464626
>If you don't send your kids to the state-run retard holding pen then you're a helicopter parent and your children won't be socialized.

sure
You know there are ways for children to be exposed to other children other than school right? Like sports and such as an example.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 21:56:14 2018 No.9466433 >>9465652

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 21:57:16 2018 No.9466437 >>9465652 >>9465652 When someone finally teaches that your preconceived notion of homeschooling is far from the truth, think of this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 21:58:18 2018 No.9466438 >>9466300 Call things I dont like fake news Did you mean to go to /pol? 5

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 22:01:07 2018 No.9466440 >>9464033 >ADHD first grader is that a new description for american school kids?

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 22:08:38 2018 No.9466448

>>9466404
I think there could be modifications to it to make it better.

For example, 1st and 2nd grade could easily be combined... you have a whole year to teach it.

10th grade and up seems like a lot to take on and would probably need a couple extra years or more to fully understand it... not like it that even matters because they are going to be extremely far ahead of their peers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 22:09:35 2018 No.9466452 >>9466440 ADHD is the medical term used for young white males. It necessitates heavy drugging in America.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 22:15:25 2018 No.9466461 >Sit child in front of Khan Academy >Tell them they need to get a certain amount done a day >??? >Profit

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 22:52:38 2018 No.9466505

>>9466448
>For example, 1st and 2nd grade could easily be combined... you have a whole year to teach it.

True but you have to remember their reading skills are still coming in so you don't want to do proofs earlier than ~5th grade.

>10th grade and up seems like a lot to take on and would probably need a couple extra years or more to fully understand it... not like it that even matters because they are going to be extremely far ahead of their peers.

Also true but if that ever did become the standard, math pass 9th grade would probably be an elective (as it is sadly now becoming).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 22:55:05 2018 No.9466514 >>9466448 >1st and 2nd grade A lot of that stuff should actually be taught in Kindergarten or earlier too.

Anonymous Sat Jan 27 23:23:43 2018 No.9466560

>>9464033
>I want to homeschoole my kids when I have them and I know there must be ways much more efficient than how they're taught at school.
yeah, when they pick up basic math in a day because they aren't retarded, move onto geometry. Then a week later onto algrebra, then a week from that onto algebra 2, then 2 weeks from that onto precalc, then two weeks from that onto calc 1, then a month from that onto calc 2 and 3.

>In particular I remember an article where a tutor used a teaching method on an ADHD first grader that she says would have got him started on calculus by fourth or fifth grade.
Yeah, she didn't didn't have to try to drag him down to the sub-human's level. Children should have calc 2 mastered by second grade.

>Any info or input would be helpful.
Teach, drill, test, drill, test, judge competence. If competence has been achieved, move one. Include review in the drill and tests or else they'll forget.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 23:29:52 2018 No.9466569 >>9466560 Is this supposed to be funny?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 23:38:37 2018 No.9466587 >>9466569 No. You can easily fit all of non-meme math into two years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 27 23:59:38 2018 No.9466614 >>9466587 >>9466587 You genuinely believe you can get a child through calc 2 by second grade? Do you have any figures to support this?

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 00:33:15 2018 No.9466669

>>9466614
>Do you have any figures to support this?
My experiences in public school, the absurd amount of time wasted, the amount of math that was incorrectly taught, the increased efficiency of home schooling and 1:1 education.

Do I have actual numbers, no. But I don't have any doubts that it is possible. There is no hard non-meme math, the only time math is hard is when you don't remember something. Children are very good at learning and memorizing.

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 00:34:29 2018 No.9466671

>>9466614
Different anon, but I have read of a study that showed delaying teaching any math at all until 6th grade had no long term negative effect on student's math performance, and actually improved their comprehension of word problems. I'll see if I can find the source.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 00:44:41 2018 No.9466708 >>9466671 So what you're saying is that from kindergarten to 6th grade, the equivalent of zero math is taught on average.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 01:49:19 2018 No.9466821 >tfw when you want to raise intelligent human beings but you have to balance your parenting correctly so they come out the right amount of autistic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 01:52:23 2018 No.9466826 >>9466671 >>9466708 Even if this is true, can a second grade brain really understand Calc II? I'm asking because I honestly don't know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 02:32:14 2018 No.9466882 Bump

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 02:52:47 2018 No.9466899

>>9466826
Can anyone really understand calc 2? Who knows?
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding a limit? Yes.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding variables? Yes.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding non-cartesian coordinate systems? If you skip over 2d polar obfuscation faggotry, yes.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding calc applied to trig fn's? Probably not, but next to no one does because understanding it provides basically no insight into anything else and just memorizing them is better for you.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding derivatives? Yes.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding nth order derivatives? Yes. Just show them a set of graphs and how increasing the order tends to a linearization.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding slopes? Yes.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding partial derivatives? If you teach them the greek alphabet and are perfectly consistent with your notation.
// I mean, I finished calc 4, and from calc 2 and on and in my engineering courses, what has fucked me up the most from a conceptual standpoint is differential notation and its use as a pesudo-variable half the time and an operator the other half.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding double integrals? Yes. Just be smart and cover exactness beforehand.
Is a second grade brain capable of understanding multi-variable calculus? See above about derivative notation.
etc etc etc

>tl;dr
Yeah, probably. Not like you can do any worse than the public school system.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 02:52:56 2018 No.9466901 >>9466437 When youre 43 and childless and remember how you used to talk about the manner in which youd teach the kids you never had, think of this thread

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 02:58:06 2018 No.9466909 [DELETED]

>>9466901
That's a risk reward I'm willing to take. The child of an autist engineer is likely to be an autist engineer, so social skills don't matter.
I intend for my male children to have become calculus gods, thermodynamics masters, and material science experts by age 12.

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Anonymous Sun Jan 28 02:59:26 2018 No.9466911

>>9465652
That's a risk reward I'm willing to take. The child of an autist engineer is likely to be an autist engineer, so social skills don't matter.
I intend for my male children to have become calculus gods, thermodynamics masters, and material science experts by age 12.
I intend to have drilled logic into my female children so much that by age 12, they won't be leftist whores.

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 03:04:18 2018 No.9466915

>>9466671
>Different anon, but I have read of a study that showed delaying teaching any math at all until 6th grade had no long term negative effect on student's math performance, and actually improved their comprehension of word problems. I'll see if I can find the source.

Flawed study. They tested regular kids that learn that shit years ago with kids that just learn it and saw who was faster. Obviously, the more recent kids were better. Most of /sci/ will be slow at long division problems too.

Kids in yester-decades learned more and got better grades than kids who "delay their education". Pick up any old textbook and see for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 03:07:01 2018 No.9466919 >>9466915 >Pick up any old textbook This, old shit is scarily fucking rigourous. Modern education is a meme.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 03:54:29 2018 No.9466964 >homeschooling your kids Yikes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 09:33:28 2018 No.9467322 >>9466431 This is retarded. Kids are relentless bullies who want to put down anyone who is not like them.

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 09:38:28 2018 No.9467332

>>9465692
>>9465718
What you will end up with is a kid who doesn't know how to handle adversary, a kid who WILL throw tantrums when he is not the centre of attention, and who has trouble making friends or connecting with people his age. But hey, he has sick calculus skills man.

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 09:56:04 2018 No.9467352

>>9467332
>a kid who doesn't know how to handle adversary
This meme is bullshit. Public schooling didn't teach me how to 'handle adversity', not being a faggot did.

>a kid who WILL throw tantrums when he is not the centre of attention
Proper parenting solves that.

>who has trouble making friends or connecting with people his age.
Sibilings have a far greater impact on the socialization of children than the number of strangers they are exposed to.

>But hey, he has sick calculus skills man.
Not just calc, but also physics, thermo, statistics, matrix math, material science, ochem, pchem, vector statics, spelling, non-marxist (read as: non-revisionist) american history, the history of small arms development, manufacturing principles, circuit anaylsis, basic supply side economics, engineering principles of space design and colonization, amateur rocketry, c++, html, karate, muy thai, and semaphore.

Basically I want to train my kids to be able to hand a 22 unit workload in engineering without a drop of sweat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 09:57:24 2018 No.9467353 >>9467332 >>who has trouble making friends or connecting with people his age. Also just don't be a faggot and take the kid to the park and on play dates once in a while. And make them do at least one sport.

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 11:32:47 2018 No.9467574

>>9465803
But he supposedly didn't only teach the kid Algebra, but also the basics of math (it's a 6-year old)

Those are 135 hours PER YEAR, for 5-6 years until you actually learn Algebra in school (around age 11 or 12), for a total of 135 * 5.5 = ~740 hours
So he would have been more than 10x faster than in school

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 11:46:01 2018 No.9467598 >>9465652 Enjoy your kid bringing home the plague of the week every fucking week, also there's other ways to socialize kids rather than sending them off to the local liberal factory.

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 11:57:41 2018 No.9467617

>>9466452
While this is true, the heavy drugging lets me pass off as a normie instead of a hyperactive super autist with his face to the ground in the middle of the sidewalk exploring the details of cracks, or not spending 30 consecutive hours researching the crusades only to be fall asleep in my chair and then spend another 30 hours learning latin to be able to read contemporary documents.
It's worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 11:59:41 2018 No.9467620 >>9466461 >khan academy Fucking trash. Try this at 1.25 speed instead: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoHhuummRZaIVX7bD4t2czg

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 12:16:08 2018 No.9467652 File: 70 KB, 470x470, 1515748365576.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9467617 >Taking prescribed methamphetamines for a hormone imbalance instead of just correcting the fucking hormone imbalance

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 12:22:01 2018 No.9467669 >>9467352 Would you like to breed our kids, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 13:04:15 2018 No.9467763 >>9467652 I don't eat soy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 13:06:29 2018 No.9467769 >>9467669 Are you a mechanical? I'm chemical so my knowledge is limited and need someone with more design experience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 13:12:07 2018 No.9467788 >>9467769 I meant have our kids breed with each other, not us.

Anonymous Sun Jan 28 13:16:45 2018 No.9467795

>>9465652
public school is fucking garbage. you can put your kid in sports and homeschool them and you'll get the best of both worlds. public curricula are slowed down so every idiot can keep up.

of course, if you're rich enough this isn't a problem. private schools aren't glorified daycare centres

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 13:42:21 2018 No.9467835 >>9466448 Kids can't learn as fast as older teens, so you have to remember that and take it into account.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 13:45:12 2018 No.9467842 >>9467835 False.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 14:12:36 2018 No.9467914 >>9467835 >>9467842 Argue pls.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 18:32:03 2018 No.9468545 >>9464626 Homeschooled kids get far better results and don't end up socially stunted though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 28 21:39:20 2018 No.9469124 >>9468545 This.

Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:16:00 2018 No.9470421

>>9467652
It's interesting - I know you're implying that ADHD meds like Ritalin (methylphenidate) and Adderall (a racemix mixture of dextroamphetamine and levamphetamine) are similar to methamphetamine, and should perhaps be viewed as ""legal" or
"pharmaceutical" meth, but there's more: actual methamphetamine can, and occasionally even is, prescribed for the treatment of ADHD under the brand name Desoxyn. (E.g. see https://www.rxlist.com/desoxyn-drug.htm))

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:18:09 2018 No.9470423 I wonder which one of those li'l buggers has a higher IQ. Socioeconomically speaking, of course. :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:29:45 2018 No.9470445 >>9464626 Modern public school and many private schools are just busy work to keep black kids off of the streets. There's plenty of other ways to get kids socialized.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:43:42 2018 No.9470478 >>9470423 >iq Not science.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:46:23 2018 No.9470487 >>9465361 Then why is parent who homeschools crazy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:46:37 2018 No.9470488 >>9470478 >my feefees say what science is You're going to really love it when we start comparing genes associated with educational attainment lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:48:02 2018 No.9470495 >>9470488 It's up to iq supporters to demonstrate iq is science. Which it isn't. Therefore iq is not science. Iq is pseudoscience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:48:49 2018 No.9470497 >>9470478 Quick, you're gonna have a baby, and you get to pick an embryo with an expected IQ of 85 and one of 100. Which do you-- Oh wait, he says it's not science, toss a coin. :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 13:50:41 2018 No.9470501 >>9470495 You remind me of someone.... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6WjTo33ksZs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:04:17 2018 No.9470525 >>9470497 Yet iq is still not science. Sorry not sorry. >>9470501 Huh? It's funny seeing brainlets revealing their interests involuntarely after hiding them for so long. Have you given up already?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:12:20 2018 No.9470537 >>9470525 >brainlets >involuntarely Troll harder.

Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:47:37 2018 No.9470615

>>9468545
Citation?

The early years (starting at 2) determine a child's sociability. This process hasn't stopped by the age of six and kids need a lot of social interaction with kids their own age - they socialise each other more than their parents do at that point (sharing, setting social/interactional limits, etc.).

If you homeschool your kids, make sure they make lots of friends in a sports club or similar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:55:39 2018 No.9470630 >>9470497 :^) give him the 85 I take the 100

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 15:00:17 2018 No.9470646 >>9470537 >troll Iq is still not science, anon. Good job for spamming your opinions though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 15:45:42 2018 No.9470737 >>9470497 >Discriminating embryos based on IQ That's a new low, even for /scipol/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 15:48:33 2018 No.9470744 >>9470737 >implying a hypothetical can be discriminatory tell me, where did the imaginary man touch you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 15:53:42 2018 No.9470761 >>9470744 >I'm was only hypothetically pretending to be retarded Nice defense

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:44:13 2018 No.9470878 >>9470615 >being a cuck and only have a single wife's son WEW Don't be a failure in life and the problem solves itself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 21:43:08 2018 No.9471632 >>9468545 Anecdotal evidence of mine suggests I've always found homeschooled kids weird and autistic seeming compared to all the kids I met at school.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 06:17:45 2018 No.9472410 File: 176 KB, 640x3030, education.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9467574 >implying schools are teaching at maximal speed rather than minimal speed >not knowing that the only thing keeping schools from teaching less are standardized tests

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 09:57:22 2018 No.9472666

>>9465652
Emotional skills should be learned through sports and the community, especially if 8 hours a day aren't wasted in something as counter productive as public school. I distinctly remember getting punished in 2nd grade for going ahead in the math textbook by myself. Lets take a look at the first 5-6 years of public school:
>can only go as fast as the slowest kid in the class
>waste time on busywork and glorified coloring books
>deal with catlady teachers less intelligent than many of the students in the class
>practically no outdoor time, boyhood is often punished
>0 class choice until teens

>>9472410
Have you ever read the blog educationrealist? Seems like it's up your alley.

>not knowing that the only thing keeping schools from teaching less are standardized tests
I despise out of touch state "educators" as much as the next person but there is much more at play than standardized tests. Holding back intelligent students because of a refusal to address potential importance of IQ as well as the misconception that higher education is much more damaging imo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 09:58:47 2018 No.9472669 >>9472666 *misconception that higher education is for everyone phoneposting was a mistake

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:09:05 2018 No.9472803

>>9472666
>Holding back intelligent students because of a refusal to address potential importance of IQ as well as the misconception that higher education is for everbyone much more damaging imo.
This.

>>deal with catlady teachers less intelligent than many of the students in the class
Also this. "Pi is 3" "but teacher, that gives the wrong answer" "3 is close enough"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:44:53 2018 No.9472985 >>9467322 >Not enrolling your kid in BJJ so he can beat the fuck out of anyone who touches him I guess you don't want your successor to succeed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 14:09:47 2018 No.9473138 >>9464033 Cute twins you posted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 14:11:58 2018 No.9473142 File: 585 KB, 780x879, 1512372010423.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The only people I know who are homeschooled are total spergs and despite being "ahead" in education from me never went on to do anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 14:26:39 2018 No.9473178 >>9473142 It's pretty funny the only arguments ani-homeschoolers can use now is "But I knew someone homeschooled once and he was kind of weird."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 00:59:51 2018 No.9474386 Bump

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 01:02:01 2018 No.9474388 >>9473178 I knew one girl who was homeschooled she was good at french and went to uni abroad but idk what she studied so, doing better than me she had like 80 million pets that were all adopted

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 01:25:03 2018 No.9474418 >>9474388 Sounds qt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 15:27:27 2018 No.9475668 >>9474388 What animals were they, anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 16:02:23 2018 No.9475768 >>9464033 What's with the leftist propaganda pic ya cuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 21:23:21 2018 No.9476438 >>9475768 Retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 21:29:08 2018 No.9476448 >>9465652 I went to public school all my life and I have poor social skills. >tfw no gf ever

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:15:21 2018 No.9477588 [DELETED]

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>>9464626
>Send your kids to indoctrination machines

Nope. My daughter will not go to public school. Maybe private, but since I can work from home most days I will probably home school her. No fucking kike will tell my daughter to fuck niggers and terrorists. Whites only.

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:25:44 2018 No.9477606

The trick is doing what Obama’s mother did

When they lived in Thailand or whatever, she didn’t trust the education he was getting at school, so every morning she homeschooled him before his regular school

Voila, socialization and premium education; it also shows the kids the inferior standards of the general population

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:02:47 2018 No.9477752 >>9477606 "Socialization" is a fucking meme. Schoolkids are taught from an early age to be narcissistic, scared of authority, easily guiltable, and afraid to speak their minds. Is that the way you want your kids to be socialized?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:09:01 2018 No.9477769 >>9477752 I don’t disagree but should the child be Mensa-tier they’ll see what’s goin on around them and the way their peers are being effected

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:11:53 2018 No.9477776 >>9477769 So the kid will start to hate school and dread every moment of it. Doesn't seem ideal for any kid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 19:08:30 2018 No.9478483 >>9466899 >Finished calc 4 Begone engineer, you don't know what you are talking about

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 19:30:23 2018 No.9478540 >>9478483 >he doesn't call diff eqn's calc 4 Get a load of this guy

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 21:23:41 2018 No.9478787

>>9464033
>I remember an article where a tutor used a teaching method on an ADHD first grader that she says would have got him started on calculus by fourth or fifth grade
this is obvious. I remember as a kid i had no problem at all with maths, i was not learning shit. I could have done elementary in one year

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 21:25:27 2018 No.9478796 >>9464626 fuck off lefty god i hate redditors here

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 21:30:28 2018 No.9478808 >>9466345 >2nd grade >inequalities >not even knowing equations first

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 21:33:25 2018 No.9478819 >>9466560 >sci homechool READ THE FUCKING CALCULUS 3 BOOK BRAINLET -dad i am 6

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:36:29 2018 No.9479272 Bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:03:10 2018 No.9479303 >>9466826 Can the average nigger? If not, no.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:06:30 2018 No.9479306 >>9470646 Dick size is not scienze

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 05:01:20 2018 No.9479493 File: 1.39 MB, 4958x4437, 5-Imbecile-Scale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9479306 We have knockout studies on nigger dick size. >>9479303 See pic attached, you are short changing children.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:19:28 2018 No.9480334 >>9479493 Nice pic.

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:24:31 2018 No.9480347
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>>9464626
This guys is sort of right. Kids need to be exposed to the dirty, corrupt nature of man to function well. They need to learn how to compete for social status, how to secure mates, how to avoid bullying and how to bully others into submission. When to speak their mind and when to shut the fuck up. Otherwise you'll end up with a recluse, or a wide eyed naive idiot who gets his head stomped in by the first gang of feral niggers.

You don't really learn much in school academicaly, but it exposes to the realities of life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:27:44 2018 No.9480352 >>9480347 I'm sure there's a much more efficient way to achieve this. I seriously doubt years worth of academic skill is worth experience with black people.

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:32:22 2018 No.9480360

>>9480352
The usual way to do this is for kids to grow up in communities surrounded by other kids. But that requires massive sweeping changes to our social organization. Besides, so long as the bureaucratic state exists there is no better preparation for life than the tyrannical hellhole that is the public school

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:35:19 2018 No.9480365 >>9475668 Dogs, cats, birds I think at least one ferret

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:53:47 2018 No.9480397 >>9479306 Is there a negative correlation between dick size and iq? Do you know any research?

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 16:08:23 2018 No.9480431
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>>9466166
I encountered the same situation when I was teaching my student piano. So many different ways of incorporating different methods to teach music theory as well as practical application. And since I'm also a math tutor at one college, the kid's last words to him gave me feels, cause I've experienced that as well. Nothing like being thanked for helping someone become better, honestly. Nothing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 16:18:53 2018 No.9480465 >>9467617 Mfw you are that super autist

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 16:48:06 2018 No.9480529

>>9480347
>wide eyed naive idiot who gets his head stomped in by the first gang of feral niggers.
anon see: >>9467352
>non-marxist (read as: non-revisionist) american history
>the history of small arms development
>karate
>muay thai

the 21 foot rule and situational awareness are integral components of the modern philosophy of small arms

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 20:05:07 2018 No.9480942 >>9464225 I think the main reason why it worked so good was probably that he had private lessons. They are probably much more effective than lessons in a class, if the teacher is equally qualified.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 20:16:47 2018 No.9480963 >>9479493 Niggers are on average on the Medium Imbecile level.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 20:25:24 2018 No.9480991 >>9478540 It's not about what I call it. Who gives a fuck what it's called? I'm mocking you for being scum

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 21:34:50 2018 No.9481122 >>9480991 >I'm mocking you for being scum Sorry I decided to be more than a pair of hands / lab tech.

Anonymous Sat Feb 3 08:28:17 2018 No.9482014

>>9480529
You can teach your kid skills all you want, he still needs to know how to deal with stupid normalfags, especially stupid normalfags in positions of authority. If you are a burger and live innawoods, ok sure. But if you are like most people on 4chan and live in the suburban sprawl, you're fucking your kid up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 17:59:11 2018 No.9483230 >>9478540 >Calling DiffyQs Calc 4 >Calc 3 is just multivariable Calc with minimal vector calc >Calc 4 is all that barely got touched on in calc 3 (i.e. vector calc)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 18:15:39 2018 No.9483258 >>9483230 >Calc 3 is just multivariable Calc with minimal vector calc Sounds to me like you are describing calc 2 >Calc 4 is all that barely got touched on in calc 3 (i.e. vector calc) Sounds to me like you are describing calc 3

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 18:24:31 2018 No.9483269 >>9482014 >he still needs to know how to deal with stupid normalfags, especially stupid normalfags in positions of authority. Would not a non-cuck coach be able to accomplish this?

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