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9462317 No.9462317[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

What s the name of the scientific experiment that proves that bodies of water are convex?

>> No.9462339

>>9462317
The fuck off experiment

>> No.9462343
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9462343

>>9462339

>> No.9463813

>>9462317
>>cilinder

>> No.9464395
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9464395

>>9463813
Almost 24 hours and not one person here can post a link to an experiment that demonstrates and proves that a body of water is convex.

>> No.9464398

>>9462317
>are convex
define your terms before Science disproves them you sniveling retard

>> No.9464403
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9464403

>>9462317
the take-the-boat experiment?

>> No.9464406

I'm sorry but I didn't catch the name of the experiment that proves they aren't, your images just read about "experiments" in general.

>> No.9464424

>>9464395
this
>>9464403

>> No.9464427
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9464427

>>9464398
>>9464406
I live by the ocean.
I go outside and I m looking at a 30+ mile flat line.
I did the math and it dosen t make sense.

>> No.9464433

>>9464427
It's not flat, it curves toward you. It's a radius with you in the center.

>> No.9464434

>>9464427
>I did the math
Which math?

>> No.9464443

>>9464427
Yep
>>9464434
Show math and we will rate math

>> No.9464446

>>9464434
It s above.
8 inches a mile times the distance squared in miles.

>> No.9464448

>hurr durr I'm fucking retarded
>listen to me or my church buddies will start a movement

>> No.9464449

>>9464443
It s above.

>> No.9464452

>>9464446
I think you may not be very smart.
Or any good at math, for that matter. That statement has units of [inches]x[miles].

>> No.9464455
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9464455

>>9464452
I m starting to think the experiment I asked about dosen t exist.

>> No.9464465
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9464465

>>9464446
>>9464455

>> No.9464468

>>9464455
okay so this website uses terrain data and a little bit of basic geometry to show you what you should be able to see from any place on earth and any altitude.

http://www.heywhatsthat.com/

>> No.9464471

>>9462317
When you are looking out over water, the curvature bends away from you equally over the entire body of water. So the horizon appears level. So you look out over the middle and the ocean curves away at 8 inches per mile, then you look 45 degrees to your right, the ocean here ALSO curves away from you at 8 inches per mile. Then 90 degrees to your now left, the ocean, again, still bends away from you at 8 inches per mile. So over that 90 degrees of view of ocean, you see it bending away from you at the same rate at every point on the horizon, so a flat line.

This is as you would expect. If instead when you look to your left or right the ocean suddenly was bending away from you more than that rate, then you would see a curve that was higher in the middle and lower to the left or right. But this would mean the water was uneven (that there would be a "hill" in the water) as you would if you saw a hill out on the horizon.

>> No.9464484
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9464484

>>9464471
I m not looking left or right.
I m looking at one line, straight on.
I ve checked physical maps and Google maps and the distance is 30 miles.

That's a 600 feet.

I can t find any anything online about the convex nature of bodies of water or the name of the experiment that proves it s even possible.

If you guys could just post me the links to the information about convex bodies of water, I would appreciate it.

>> No.9464487

>>9464406
Yeah, I know. I can t find information on them so I came here.
I ve googled it and can t find anything.

>> No.9464492
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9464492

>>9464484
Oh so you mean pic related

>> No.9464494

>>9462343
>every time such experiments have been conducted, however, standing water has proven to be perfectly level
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment

>> No.9464498

>>9464494
>1870
Repeated and found to show no curvature. The videos are on YouTube.

Can you sight something modern with better equipment?

>> No.9464501
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9464501

>>9464492
Go watch the video that still is from.
The creator is posting fake videos and asking for money.
If it was real you could post numerous examples along with the name of the modern scientific experiment that demonstrates and proves that standing bodies of water are convex.

There s real pictures of those transmission tower, here s one, give the rest a google

>> No.9464502

>>9462343
>>9464403
>>9464465
The problem with these is that they basically don't take into account the atmosphere.
The atmosphere has an affect on light. Cold air bends light in a different way than hot air. I think we have all observed the affect of hot air on light so there's no point denying that the effect exists.

The real problem with these amateur experiments is that they don't take into account or mitigate as many variables as they can. They just make an observation and if it fits their desired result they accept it.
When faced with opposing observations they make up explanations for them, often using the same reasoning that could be affecting their own observations.

Scientists aren't perfect, but there is enough opposition in science to keep them mostly honest, unlike the Flat Earth Society. An echo chamber doesn't make for good science. None of them are looking for flaws in each others work. Anything that fits is acceptable. Anything that doesn't fit doesn't count.

>> No.9464503
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9464503

>>9464492
>>9464501
Here a clearer still than the one you posted...

>> No.9464505

>>9464498
>they took out the markers Wallace used to prove the refraction of the light
Nicely done.

>> No.9464507
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9464507

>>9464492
>>9464501
>>9464503

>> No.9464508
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9464508

>>9464505
Could you post the link to science experiment they demonstrate and prove the that standing bodies of water are convex in schools and universities, please?

>> No.9464509

>>9464507
I sure hope you posted that image supporting the curved Earth, or else I have some bad news for you.

>> No.9464510

>>9464508
Sure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment

>> No.9464512

>>9464510
See >>9464498

>> No.9464513

>>9464512
See >>9464505

>> No.9464515

>>9464509
No you don t.
Please post the link to information I requested.
http://epod.usra.edu/blog/2014/11/photographing-the-curvature-of-the-earth-trickier-than-you-think.html

>> No.9464516

>>9464513
So you don t have anything modern or more scientific than from 1870?
https://youtu.be/XUjMytEgLyw

>> No.9464517

>>9464515
I have some bad news for you then.
There's a clear curve in those pylons as they reach the horizon.

>> No.9464518

>>9464516
See >>9464505 again.

Wallace specifically put markers of even height at measured distances along the canal so that if any refraction were occurring it would be visible in the relative heights of the markers.

They did the test without markers.

>> No.9464531

>>9464515
That talks about curvature from left to right across the field of view.

See >>9464471

>>9464501
This pic is taken from too high up. The ~8 inch drop per mile squared is undetectable at this distance because the curvature does not obscure the pylons in any way, as you are well above the height of the pylons. Even if the curvature was enough to complete obscure the last pylon at the distance that pylon is from the camera, the camera being well over twice the height of the pylon from the ground would still clearly be able to see the entire pylon.

In every picture taken from below the height of the pylons: >>9464503 >>9464507 the curvature is clearly visible.

>>9464508
https://www.astro.princeton.edu/~dns/teachersguide/MeasECAct.html
Here is one meant for like kids I guess. Curvature isn't really something that is needed to be taught in universities because experiments aren't needed.. You can just go watch a ship sink below the horizon or go look at a far away building and see how the bottom is hidden from view. And the sun set experiment also benefits from all but removing the errors in the Bedford level experiment since change in atmospheric distortion would be minimal over such a short period of time, so would be basically identical for both observations. Also wear sunglasses and dont look directly at sun or even better any left over eclipse glasses

>> No.9464534

>>9462317
>What s the name of the scientific experiment that proves that bodies of water are convex?
What does this even mean? Why is this being used like some sort of trump card? This is just meaningless word salad. This is just asking the wrong question.

>> No.9464582

>>9464534

What experiment proves water can conform to the exterior of a solid sphere? Can't get much clearer than that.

>> No.9464590

>>9464582
Still the wrong question, faggot. Your retarded question comes from a position that assumes that liquids adhere to a surface without some external forces involve. It's still a question that doesn't make any fucking sense.

>> No.9464596
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>>9464582

>> No.9464602

>>9464590

Globalists state that the oceans conform to the exterior of the spherical earth due to gravity.

Science requires observable, repeatable and measurable experiments to prove such claims. If you don't have any, it's not science.

>> No.9464605

>>9464582
>What experiment proves water can conform to the exterior of a solid sphere? Can't get much clearer than that.
Experiments that prove gravity.

>> No.9464608

>>9464602
Take a drinking glass and hold it 1 meter above the floor. If it doesn't become shards of smaller pieces of glass on the floor at approximately 9.8 seconds later, then you win.

>> No.9464625

>>9464596

Is condensation surface tension or gravity?

>>9464605

Not asking for experiments that prove gravity (no that there are any), but an experiment that proves gravity can hold deep bodies of water to the exterior of shapes.

>>9464608

That's a totally unrelated "experiment" to proving oceans are being held to the exterior of a sphere due to gravity.

>> No.9464629

>>9464531
https://youtu.be/L93WyZ01V24

>> No.9464632

>>9464625
>That's a totally unrelated "experiment" to proving oceans are being held to the exterior of a sphere due to gravity.
How? Gravity pulls objects towards the center of a mass. What makes you think that fluid particles are going to behave differently?

>> No.9464637

>>9464625
>Not asking for experiments that prove gravity (no that there are any)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment
Gravity exists and it holds the oceans to the planet.

Your argument is invalid because you have no argument, just denial of facts.

>> No.9464638

>>9464629
>flat earther is faced with argument
>lacks the capacity to think for himself and just posts a video hoping that it would contain his arguments

>> No.9464640
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https://youtu.be/3oz7k7Wn_vo

>> No.9464645

>>9464632
>Electromagnetism
>Surface tension
Gravity is not the only force in this system

>> No.9464655

>>9464645
>Electromagnetism
Only significant when it comes to shit like difference in polarity.
>Surface tension
Only if the volume is small enough that their mass doesn't get overwhelmed by something like gravity.
You're also, probably, under the assumption that all forces probably have some sort of linear behavior.

>> No.9464667

>>9464629
I see one of us is far more willing to have a conversation than the other.

>> No.9464668
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9464668

>>9464638
The ships you think are going over the horizon come back with the p900 when you zoom in.

YouTube has lots of videos.
I m going to buy a p900 to see for myself.
Have you ever heard of The Socratic method?

Thanks for your ad hominem
Have a nice day

>> No.9464669

>>9464645
You're right, it isn't the only force.

Glad to see you aren't denying gravity anymore.

>> No.9464671

>>9464668
>socratic method
>thinking that posting a video is equivalent to asking questions as an argumentative tactic
try harder, kiddo

>> No.9464683

>>9464637
Is there a modern version in operation we can observe? In a science exhibit or university? Could you post the link?

>> No.9464686
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9464686

>>9464668
Ships are small, though. What about big structures that actually sink below the horizon?

>> No.9464691
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9464691

>>9464671
So the answer to my question about the experiment that demonstrates and proves bodies of water are convex is an 1870 experiment that s been repeated with mixed results, up until it s on YouTube with flat results.

No modern scientific experiment exists proving a body of water, such as the ocean, is convex.

Got it.

>> No.9464693

>>9464683
It's an experiment whose only aim is to find the gravitational constant. It's operating under the assumption that gravity exists.

>> No.9464696

>>9464691
NOBODY FUCKING ASSUMED THAT BODIES OF WATER JUST NATURALLY FORM AS A SPHERE WITHOUT ANY EXTERNAL FORCES. THAT IS A FUCKING RETARDED QUESTION COMING FROM A POSITION THAT HAS A FUCKTON OF FALSE ASSUMPTIONS.

>> No.9464698

>>9464686
There are vids on YouTube of atmospheric lensing experiments that are interesting as well if your interested in the topic

https://youtu.be/w24KqhKjHxY

>> No.9464700

>>9464691
>proves bodies of water are convex is an 1870 experiment that s been repeated with mixed results, up until it s on YouTube with flat results.
Because they didn't use markers to measure if any refraction was taking place.

They didn't even try to remove KNOWN variables. Did they even read the wikipedia article before they attempted to recreate the experiment or were they just trying to fall into the same trap as the first person who did it?

>> No.9464701

>>9464693
10 minute mark to the end if you don t want to watch the whole video
https://youtu.be/JKHUaNAxsTg

>> No.9464704

>>9464686

Same thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oBmNe13AVE

>> No.9464706

>>9464693
Well, if gravity didn't exist then there would be no gravitational constant to measure.

Seeing they were able to measure the gravitational constant clearly gravity, or at least a force that acts like gravity, exists.

You can call it whatever you want. So long as it is acting like gravity then it's just gravity.

>> No.9464710

>>9464701
>rounding error exists
Imagine My Shock™

>> No.9464712

>>9464700
And there is no modern scientific experiment you can post that demonstrates and proves water, such as the ocean is curving.

I or anyone else can go and observe and measure it. Where I am, the apex of the curve should be 600 feet and clearly visible. It s flat though.

See >>9462317
>>9464395
>>9464465
>>9464455

>> No.9464715

>>9464712
Luckily we have observations for that
>>9464503
>>9464507

>> No.9464721

>>9464704
Maybe this guy should use a filter next time so that what we're seeing is actually the sun and not a glare.

>> No.9464727
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>>9464715

Those pictures have been debunked already.

>> No.9464731
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9464731

>>9464727

>> No.9464732

>>9464698
Why do flat earthers always post videos without explanations? It's almost like something done intentionally to make it more difficult to argue with them. Giving us a task of deducing and explaining what their arguments are supposed to be.

>> No.9464736

>>9464727
Why would there be tilting left or right when it is going away from you? Are you actually retarded?

>looks like they're floating on water
Oh, he is retarded.

>> No.9464737
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9464737

>>9464715
The math completely refutes it.
There is no modern experiment that proves a body of water is or can be convex, at least that no one has posted yet.

The fake image you just referenced, go to the author's still images and videos (which look like CGI, more so when compared to real photos of those transmission towers) and post the towers from the side view so we can all see the curve clearly.

Other examples should not be hard to find.

>> No.9464743

>>9464737
>There is no modern experiment that proves a body of water is or can be convex, at least that no one has posted yet.
>>9464696

>> No.9464745

>>9464727
>red arrow to left
See >>9464471

>tilted on angle
It is tilted away, but hardly a measurable amount at this distance. Also would not be noticeable from this camera since, you know, AWAY.

>arrow on right
See the 8 inches per mile squared stuff. If the further from you the distance is squared, then the closer the distance is square rooted. The right most pylon is closest to camera, so curvature near it is exponentially less than the ones further away.

>floating on water
I mean, because you can't see through the water to see that they aren't.. But what does it matter if they are floating or not? They are all the same height above the water either way

>> No.9464750

>>9464737
The curvature is 8 inches per 1 mile
That's only ~16 feet of curvature.

>> No.9464753

>>9464750
8 inches per mile per mile. The curve increases exponentially the further you get, otherwise you would get a straight line slope downward.

>> No.9464754
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9464754

>>9464750
You have to square the distance.

>> No.9464757
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http://www.strawpoll.me/14938555/r

>> No.9464759
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9464759

>>9464750
The chart is posted above at >>9464395

>> No.9464762

>>9464737
There is no missing curvature.
That photo is taken from high above. As your point of view rises the distance you can see increases. Even you argue that.

>> No.9464765

>>9464753
>>9464754
>>9464759
okay then, riddle me this, would that 380ft of curvature even be visible at that angle?

>> No.9464769

>>9464737
The math completely justifies it. On a perfect sphere under constant atmospheric pressure with a single dominant force pulling all mass equally towards the center, enough water would evenly cover the entire sphere with constant depth. Even if the sphere wasn't completely smooth, the surface of the water would be.

Math, logic, and reality all completely and entirely supports this. You aren't even (really) denying that math supports it, even though that is what you so foolishly declare. What you are REALLY asking, is that if observations made on Earth support level water on a giant ass imperfect sphere, or if they support a level but not perfectly smooth plane. And observations clearly support the former. If you with to respond with some quickly made YouTube video by someone who clearly doesn't know what they are talking about, go right ahead. But they fail to prove, and more importantly disprove, NOTHING.

>> No.9464781

>>9464765
Unlikely. If you take a rope around the entire circumference of the earth (perfect sphere version), measure it, then take another rope around the entire earth at 1m height, the difference in length between the 2 ropes would only be 6.28m (2pi). And we aren't even close to a significant percentage of the circumference at 380ft curvature. I'm too lazy to do the math but it would be even less noticeable because the camera angle is almost completely in line with the curvature of the structure. As in, the tilt would appear as a slight shrinkage of the apparent height of the structure (from the structure's base, which is hidden from view) compared the structure with no rotation (there would be no non-rotated reference near by, so you would have to calculate what the non-rotated's structure's height should be at that distance and compare to that). So I assume it would be incredibly hard go detect the tilt that results from the curvature

>> No.9464787
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>>9464765

When you start measuring things the dimensions of Earth and the math for it aren t observable or repeatable.

If you don t feel like leaving the house, look up aerial photography of your area, identify two landmarks 20 miles or more apart and then check the posted trig chart above.

There are online earth curvature calculators and horizon calculators as well to compare your results to.

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>>9464762
You can watch the bridge be built from the ground up on Mega Structures on you tube.

There is no measurable or observable curvature from any height.

>> No.9464803
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9464803

>>9464762

>> No.9464828
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>>9464800
Here let me go to the mega structures YouTube channel and quickly browse the video.

Hmm, yep. No curvature whatsoever you got me

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9464843

>>9464828
Glad you found the missing 200 ft of curvature. Hard to believe what difference two inches can make.
>>9464787
>>9464800

>> No.9464844
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9464844

>>9464828
>>9464843
>>9464787

>> No.9464848

>>9464800
They build the bridge to match the curvature of the earth, such that it remains a constant distance above the water at all points. "Accounting for the curvature of the earth" means they DON'T build it like in the lower half of your image.

Also, (you), I guess.

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>>9464844
>>9464848
>>9464843

>> No.9464854
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>>9464850

>> No.9464855

Honest question to flat earthers: what's the motive behind making us believe that the earth is spherical? It's not like there is a round earth tax we have to pay or anything of that sort.

>> No.9464856

>>9464843
>Glad you found the missing 200 ft of curvature. Hard to believe what difference two inches can make.
This is so stupid it's physically painful to read.
Do you not understand the difference between the height of a bridge and the width of a bridge?

>> No.9464858

I miss the time when nutjobs were talking about 911 and not about earth's shape

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9464859

>>9464843
>>9464844
>>9464848
>>9464850
>>9464854

>> No.9464866

>>9464850
>>9464854
>>9464859
Is there some point to all this image spam?

>> No.9464872

>>9464498
>sight

>> No.9464877

>>9464855

No point exploring, we've found it all. Keep people contained to one area for easy control. Finite resources etc.

>> No.9464882

>>9464858
This. I honestly hope we're all being collectively trolled and the flat earth movement will be revealed as an epic ruse somewhere down the line, but I doubt it.
>>9464866
That's the flattard modus operandi.
>post youtube videos
>post pictures/inforgraphs supposedily showing the earth is flat
>call everything CGI

>> No.9464887

>>9464625
>That's a totally unrelated "experiment" to proving oceans are being held to the exterior of a sphere due to gravity.
No it isn't, it shows what you asked for, that water will adhere to the Earth under the effects of gravity. Obviously there is no way to replicate the experiments with the entire ocean, but there is no reason to think a larger body of water would behave differently.

>> No.9464895
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>>9464843
The two inches is the difference between the length of span at sea level, and the length of the span at the height of the bridge.

The engineers literally admit to accounting for the curvature in the very video you post as "proof" of no curvature.

The curvature of the other end of the bridge is not viewable from 1 end of the bridge to the other because there is a significant bump near the middle. Pic related. Which would obscure the other end before the earth obscures it.

You aren't even trying anymore. Repeating the same shit, talking without understanding even the bs you say. What started as a genuine (still bait) search of scientific nature into properties of our planet has devolved into YouTube spamming, and the repetitious posting of the same images that borderline avatarfagging. What used to be intelligent conversation has turned into some retard posting internet crap in hopes it will argue for them. There is no point in continuing this thread any longer.

Thanks for the thread, it was fun while it lasted

>> No.9464905

>>9464395
You can see that it’s curved in the pictures, conspiratard

>> No.9464914

>>9462317
ISS water droplets.

>> No.9464928

>>9464877
>No point exploring, we've found it all.
Except we haven't - there's still big chunks of the world that not very much is known about. Plus there's space exploration.

>> No.9464970

>>9464877
You're the one contained and trapped in your conspiracy nightmare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-khULLjtgU

>> No.9464998

>>9464668
>The ships you think are going over the horizon come back with the p900
bullshit

>> No.9465005

>>9464866
Yeah the math and dimensions don t match reality.

>> No.9465007

>>9464895
See >>9464803 >>9464800

>> No.9465010
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9465010

>>9464887
Except for 30+ mile flat ocean lines missing 600 feet of curve

>> No.9465014

>>9465005
>Yeah the math and dimensions don t match reality.
They do though. You've completely failed to point to a single example otherwise.

>> No.9465015
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9465015

>>9464882
We can measure the Earth to confirm the dimensions

>> No.9465026
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9465026

>>9464998
https://youtu.be/ppHSyTzd9e8

>> No.9465034

>>9465010
THE OCEAN DOESN'T HAVE WALLS BESIDE IT YOU FUCKING RETARD. THAT IMAGE IS LITERALLY USELESS FOR YOUR ARGUMENTS.

>> No.9465035

>>9464928

>there's still big chunks of the world that not very much is known about

Yeah, like Antarctica.

>space exploration

It's a meme, I'm sorry.

>>9464970
What's that video supposed to prove?

>> No.9465037

>>9465035
>keep spamming videos in hopes that it would argue for them
>someone else does it to him
>"hurr durr y u do dat?"

>> No.9465042

>>9465014
See
>>9465026
>>9464854
>>9464850
>>9464844
>>9464803
>>9464800
>>9464737
>>9464508
>>9464484
>>9464465
>>9464455
>>9464395
>>9462343
>>9462317
>>9465015
>>9464787

I did.

>> No.9465047

>>9465015
Atmospheric lensing.
See, I can say it too.

>> No.9465048
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9465048

>>9465034
Typing in all caps dosen t change the math

>> No.9465050

>>9465042
Posting screengrabs from youtube videos does not constitute presenting an argument, you absolute mongoloid.

>> No.9465054

>>9465010
Who told you water works like the third example?
I'm sure no one did.
I mean, there's an ocean because the earth curves down in that part, not because it curves up.

>> No.9465055

>>9465048
BECAUSE OCEANS DON'T HAVE WALLS BESIDE THEM AND YOU'RE ASKING THAT FUCKING RETARDED QUESTION AS IF THAT'S WHAT THE CASE IS. IT ISN'T, YOU FUCKING RETARD. ADDRESS THIS. ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT YOU ASKED THE WRONG FUCKING QUESTION.

>> No.9465057

>>9465026
I can't see the lower part of some of those ships.

>> No.9465060

>>9465055
Does typing in all caps demonstrate and prove a body of water such as the ocean can be convex?

>> No.9465062
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9465062

>>9465015
How the fuck did you manage to post an image from a site that has information that completely refutes your own point?
https://beyondhorizons.eu/visibility-facts/refraction/

>>9465035
>It's a meme, I'm sorry.
Are you completely retarded?
You wrote:
>No point exploring, we've found it all
If "they" want us to believe that, then giving us a enormous space to explore is more than sightly counterproductive. Whether or not space is real is entirely irrelevant.

>>9465042
Half of those are photos of bridges without any text or context, and the other half have already had someone explain to you why they're bullshit / don't mean what you think.

>>9465048
It's a bit hard to tell, but I think the curvature of the Earth might be just barely visible in that image. Look at the gap between the horizon and the red line, it's slightly larger at the edges of the image than the centre.

>> No.9465063

>>9465060
OCEANS HAVE NO FUCKING WALLS. YOU'RE ASKING THAT RETARDED QUESTION AS IF I HOLD THE POSITION THAT IT DOES.

>> No.9465064

>>9465057
Look into water lenses and atmospheric lensing.
See >>9462317

It can t be flat on one axis and curved on the other and still be a sphere. Not that cconvex water bodies have proven.

>> No.9465067

>>9465064
>convex
CAN YOU FUCKING STOP WITH THIS CONVEX SHIT? THE OCEAN DOESN'T HAVE ANY WALLS THAT ARE ENCLOSING ON IT.

>> No.9465071

>>9465062
It doesn't t.

There s hundreds of missing feet of curvature of the line in that image is really 30 miles. That bridge is 24 miles and I ve posted the measurements above.

Anyone living near an ocean can go and confirm these results.

I can observe a 30 mile flat ocean line missing 600 feet. It s part of reason I choose the image.

>> No.9465075
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9465075

>>9465064
>Look into water lenses and atmospheric lensing.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING

>> No.9465078

>>9465054
I live near the ocean.
There s 600 missing feet.
Any sci anon living near the ocean can go confirm themselves.

>> No.9465079

>>9465064
>look into [random terminologies] so that I don't have to think for myself and formulate my own arguments

>> No.9465083

>>9465064
You do realize the horizon is at the same distance in every direction, don't you? Of course it appears flat at sea level.

>> No.9465088

>>9465050
I be provided all the necessary information for any sci anon to go and confirm or disprove
Ad hominem dosen t change that.

>> No.9465094

>>9465088
>I have provided material with no arguments of my own
>it's up to you to formulate my arguments for me for you to disprove them

>> No.9465097

>>9465071
>It doesn't t.
What doesn't?

>There s hundreds of missing feet of curvature of the line in that image is really 30 miles.
What do you think "missing feet of curvature" are? What do you expect them to look like?
You seem to have a bizzare idea of what a spherical planet would look like.

>>9465088
>I be provided all the necessary information for any sci anon to go and confirm or disprove
No you haven't. You've posted pictures of bridges and barely-readable rants where you don't understand geometry, perspective or what the word "curvature" means.

I'll give you a hint:
CURVATURE IS NOT MEASURED IN FEET

>> No.9465098

>>9464877
But those things are not in any way implied by a flat earth. We are still told there are other planets (flat or not), and about big empty places on earth. And why has no flat earther reached a place not shown on the sphere yet?

>> No.9465103

>>9464736
That s debunked fake image from someone asking for money. Real photos of those towers were posted earlier.

>> No.9465108

>>9462317
>>9465048
Image is taken from too high up for the curvature t be noticed along Z and the X distance isn't actually correct.

>>9462343
>>9464508

Eye height 15 ft is a joke that picture is taken from a helicopter much higher than 15 feet

>>9464395
Implies that you point your camera using a level instead of whatever looks best for the photo.

>>9464501
Picture from higher than the top of the towers is not low enough to see curvature.

>>9464727
The "debunking" literally misses the entire point of the image and points at unrelated things.

>>9464737
Too high

>>9464803
Too high

>>9465010
dumb

>>9465026
Unverified observer height

>> No.9465109
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9465109

>>9464625
>>9464596

>> No.9465111
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9465111

>>9464602
True.

>> No.9465124
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9465124

>>9462317
>>9465111
https://youtu.be/7dCh19dLGlQ

>> No.9465130

>>9465111
>>9465124
>The shape of a body of water depends on the forces acting on it.
Who could have guessed.

>> No.9465133

>>9465111
>>9465124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G91IU8cFJ7o

>> No.9465143
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9465143

>>9464803
>>9465108
How about 100,000 feet?
The math never matches reality.
Anyone can confirm for themselves outside or with aerial photography.

>> No.9465145

>>9464877
>Keep people contained to one area for easy control. Finite resources etc.
I'll take your rejection of photographs of the planet from the space seriiously, if you prove the existence of a global conspiracy that has survived multiple generations, and somehow not had a single whistleblower, and somehow silenced all sea and air navigators and explorers, and all of the scientists and engineers whose discipline is tangential to the matter are in on the conspiracy, silenced, or tricked.
From your arguements and evidence, I expect the same rigour you are demanding of others in proving gravity and the curvature of the planet.

>> No.9465160

>>9465143
You can't even see the horizon in that image because of the clouds. how would you determine the distance?

>> No.9465162

>this whole thread
Is there a doctorate level course in identifying b8 I could refer you weenies to?

>> No.9465163
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9465163

>>9465143
>The math never matches reality.
Stop.
What makes you think the math doesn't match reality? You've plugged some numbers into a website and taken a screenshot. Nowhere have you actually pointed to any kind of contradiction with what's in that picture of a bridge.
You're still just posting random crap and hoping it will convince people, rather than making an argument.

>> No.9465166

>>9465162
You can't prove that bait exists.

>> No.9465180
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9465180

>>9465145
All you have to do is measure outside and /or aerial photography to find out the dimensions and math are incorrect and don t match reality.

/Sci/ should have a project to prove the Earth is a <25,000 mile circumference sphere covered in flat/convex water spinning over a 1000 miles an hour.

>> No.9465183

>>9465180
>All you have to do is measure outside and /or aerial photography to find out the dimensions and math are incorrect and don t match reality.
WRONG

>> No.9465202
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9465202

>>9465163
You can prove a body of water is convex?
The Earth is 70% covered in water.
Here s a pic of the whole body of water.

>>9464803
>>9462317
>>9462343
>>9464508

>> No.9465213

>>9465202
https://youtu.be/FER0tnEFzLc

>> No.9465226

Lmao this thread is fucking autistic. I don't actually understand how flat earthers can even take themselves seriously if they had actually ever done an ounce of real science in this their lives. There is literally an entire field of science that takes for granted the idea that the Earth is a fucking sphere called astronomy which is founded upon physics. Astronomers which include some of the most intelligent people in the world utilize the Earths curvature on a regular basis to do their work and don't even discuss this absurd idea because it's so fucking retarded. You people are only insulting yourself. I wish we could put you all in a giant space cannon and shoot you into space so you could suffocate and watch your own beliefs crumple before you die. Please, neck yourself. The idea of a flat Earth would miraculously shatter a majority of the basis for physics. Fucking inbreds.

>> No.9465237

>>9465202
Do you even read the posts you're replying to?
I said that you haven't bothered to make an argument, and now you're asking me to make one for you. That's pathetic.

>Here s a pic of the whole body of water.
All of those pictures are taken from places where you wouldn't expect to see significant curvature.

>>9465213
What a retarded video. Of course making a bunch of assumptions and not measuring anything will get you stupid results.

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9465243

>>9465213
>>9465226
>>9465237

>> No.9465246
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9465246

>>9465010

>> No.9465251
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9465251

>>9465243
https://youtu.be/hIHPi2rVVOw

>> No.9465260

>>9465237
no, he doesen't.

>>9465202
>>9465180
>>9465143
>>9465124
>>9465111
>>9465048
>>9465026
>>9465015
>>9465010
>>9464859
>>9464844
>>9464843
>>9464828
>>9464803
>>9464800
>>9464787
>>9464759
>>9464754
>>9464737
>>9464727
>>9464691
>>9464668
>>9464640
>>9464508
>>9464501
>>9464484
>>9464465
>>9464455
>>9464427
>>9464395
>>9462343
>>9462317

this guy just spends all day creating flat earth threads and spaming his shit. he does NOT listen to arguments against him. he does NOT reason logically.

>> No.9465262

>>9465243
They weren't actually looking at Ireland, so all those numbers are wrong.

>>9465251
I've already responded to this stupid shit. Taking advantage of unusually strong refraction to photograph things that would normally be beyond the horizon is the whole point of that website. It's literally called "beyondhorizon".

Just stop.

>> No.9465265
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9465265

>>9465251
>>9465260
Math and observations prove the Earth has to be flat. If it s a sphere it has to be much bigger than we ve been lead to believe.

>> No.9465267

>>9465265
REFRACTION

>> No.9465274

>>9465251
>>9465265
no, if it were a sphere with no refraction it would only have to be about 1/7'th larger.

you have to account for refraction.

basically, refraction curves light downward. this makes the earth's curvature behave as if it's radius were 1/y'th larger than it actually is. if you take this into account, everything works out. it's called the 1/7'th rule. its used quite frequently in long distance surveying.

funny enough, refraction would cause a flat earth to be slightly concave looking, like you're standing on the inside of a bowl. and even funnier, in order for the earth to appear flat the earth would have to be slightly curved. I REPEAT: IF THE EARTH LOOKED FLAT, THAT WOULD SERVE AS PROOF OF CURVATURE.

also, take a look at this.

https://www.metabunk.org/soundly-proving-the-curvature-of-the-earth-at-lake-pontchartrain.t8939/

this explains your lack of side to side curvature. now please stop being such a retarded phone poster. you've proven again and again that you have no capacity to reason logically, please leave before you get banned like you did on /x/ for incessantly spamming your shit.

>> No.9465275
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9465275

>>9465262
You can t prove the ocean is convex. It is observed as flat and measures flat.

Horizon
Horizontal

>> No.9465293
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9465293

>>9465275
you, this entire argument. you provide literally no evidence. you just continually say one thing and don't provide your reasoning.

what's funnier is that there are plenty of pictures in this thread that DIRECTLY PROVE and SHOW IN FULL VIEW the curvature of the earth, but you are somehow just ignoring them and continuing on your happy way proving no arguments of substance. you're not even arguing. an argument requires a back and forth exchange of refutations, etc... you don't even do that. no matter what you just try and push a single point over and over again, despite being proven wrong every time with actual fucking pictures of the earth's curvature.

>> No.9465299

>>9465275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKYpMl0gJGE

>> No.9465302
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9465302

>>9465274
>>9465274
Those videos and images are clearly fake as discussed earlier and real photos of the transmission towers have been posted.
If they weren't you would have other examples. Numerous examples.
I guess that s the only place on Earth where the water is convex in one direction.

The observations and math are there, and I just posted two videos using metabunks curvature calculator to prove it s flat.

>> No.9465309
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9465309

>>9465145

The flat earth debate was still happening in the 1900s, it was only until NASA came along that "settled" things.

If you look at the "scientists" who peddled the globe theory, they were all freemasons (pic related).

In terms of pilots and scientists being in on the conspiracy, they weren't and aren't, they've been tricked like everyone else.

>> No.9465315
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9465315

>>9465302

>Those videos and images are clearly fake as discussed earlier and real photos of the transmission

again, you can't just say "FAKE!!" at images that clearly prove you're wrong. i can just as well yell "FAKE!!!!" at YOUR images but i won't, because they don't prove me wrong.

do you seriously not understand how looking at something from right at its edge as opposed to above it magnifies EXISTING curvature?

>> No.9465320
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9465320

>>9465299
Thanks for helping prove my point.
How long do you think that flat horizon line is?
He measured out 7.19 miles for us.
Sure is flat.

>> No.9465327

>>9465180
I'm still waiting for your rigorous evidence and analysis of a global conspiracy that involves hundreds of millions of co-conspiators, whereof not one blew the whistle, yet you know of this conspiracy by some means inaccessible to us.

>> No.9465337
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9465337

>>9465327
This is the math and science board. You should go ask x.

>> No.9465338

>>9465302
>Those videos and images are clearly fake as discussed earlier
Earlier where? You don't get to assume images are fake because you don't like them.

>If they weren't you would have other examples. Numerous examples.
There ARE numerous examples.

>I guess that s the only place on Earth where the water is convex in one direction.
Learn basic geometry.

>>9465309
>The flat earth debate was still happening in the 1900s
The flat earth debate has been settled since Aristotle. By AD 150 Ptolemy was drawing atlases and discussing different map projections.

>>9465320
>How long do you think that flat horizon line is?
>Sure is flat.
I still have no idea what the fuck you're on about. As best as I can tell, you seem to think that, if the Earth was round, then every long object would visibly curve when viewed from every direction at every distance. Which is retarded.

>> No.9465340

>>9465327

It's nowhere near that number. See >>9465309

>> No.9465343

>>9465309
HAHAHA This is so fucking entertaining though. Thanks for keeping the gradient extreme, brainlet. You make this memelife worth observing.

>> No.9465346
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9465346

>>9465315
His videos and images have been debunked.
He collecting money for them as well.
Since he s on metabunk here a link to their earth curve calculator
https://www.metabunk.org/curve/

You can use it to prove the Earth is flat like the videos I posted.

>>9465265
>>9465251
>>9465243

>> No.9465347

>>9465338

>The flat earth debate has been settled since Aristotle. By AD 150 Ptolemy was drawing atlases and discussing different map projections.

Old people remember the debate was still happening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Fg17NBWI4

>> No.9465354
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9465354

>184/27
Do you know what the definition of insanity is?
Stop beating your fucking head against the brick wall of willful ignorance.

>> No.9465356

>>9465346
>His videos and images have been debunked.
No they haven't.

>>9465347
>Old people remember the debate was still happening
Dumbasses shouting stupid shit isn't a debate. Flat Earthers are a subset of dumbasses.

>> No.9465357

>>9465346
>His videos and images have been debunked.

again, all you're doing here is just saying "NUH UH!!" and expecting people to take you seriously. and how the fuck do you debunk a pool Que appearing more curved the closer your eye is to one of it's ends? it's a basic property of perspective. have you seriously never checked to see how warped a piece of wood is by putting your eye up to it? also also what's the point of calling it fake when you can literally just go there yourself and take a look? nobody will stop you.

i don't understand why you just flat out ignore arguments against you. like >>9465274

you didn't address the core of his argument. you just took the one teeny tiny bit that you actually had prerehearsed material on and you decided to just deflect to that issue instead.

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9465367

>>9464727
>where is he curve in this direction?
I will never not think that flat earthers are trolling

>> No.9465372
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9465372

>>9465357

The picture of the pylons supposedly going over the curve of the earth is easily explained by perspective (pic related).

You also have to remember that the water creates a miraging effect which covers the bottoms of the pylons, adding to this effect as pointed out here: >>9464731

>> No.9465384

>>9465372
>easily explained by perspective
>Doesn't know what perspective is.

Whew lad.

>> No.9465391

>>9465309
>>9465340
>The flat earth debate was still happening in the 1900s, it was only until NASA came along that "settled" things.
Wrong. You're arguing it here.
Anyways, no evidence of global conspiracy.
>If you look at the "scientists" who peddled the globe theory, they were all freemasons (pic related).
And? Where is your evidence that they were all in a concerted conspiracy to peddle a lie, when they knew otherwise?
>In terms of pilots and scientists being in on the conspiracy, they weren't and aren't, they've been tricked like everyone else.
Navigators assume the roundness of the planet. And then they end up at their destination. Scientists assume the roundness, and their calculations work out. If it be trickery, then deft trickery it must be.
I want you to describe this trickery. I want your evidence and analysis on how they are tricked. The mechanism of their trickery. How they have not noticed it, but you did. How you came by its evidence. Who maintains this trickery, and how, and how you came by its evidence.
I'm still waiting for your rigorous evidence and analysis of a global conspiracy that involves hundreds of millions professionals and experts tricked flawlessly, yet you know of this conspiracy by some means inaccessible to us.

>> No.9465392

>>9465384

>makes claim
>doesn't back it up

>> No.9465393

>>9465392
Why are you quoting yourself?

>> No.9465395

>>9465372
>The picture of the pylons supposedly going over the curve of the earth is easily explained by perspective (pic related).
No it isn't. That's not now perspective works.

>You also have to remember that the water creates a miraging effect which covers the bottoms of the pylons
The tops of the pylons also have viable curvature, which is apparent before the pylons sink low enough the mirage has any impact.

>>9465392
Learn what perspective is. Start with Wikipedia.

>> No.9465397

>>9464503
that is so obviously shopped holy duck is this your first day on the internet?

>> No.9465413

>>9465391
>And? Where is your evidence that they were all in a concerted conspiracy to peddle a lie, when they knew otherwise?

Because that's what secret societies do. The heliocentric model is advantageous to those in power.

Navigators use maps (which are flat). What calculations do scientists do that involve the spherical nature of earth? You've said it yourself, the matter has been settled, so scientists don't bother experimenting to prove the shape of the earth, that's not going to get you any grant money now is it?

By the way, architects and bridge builders don't take into account the curvature. Pilots do not account for the curvature. But if they said the earth was flat, they'd be ostracised and seen as crazy.

>> No.9465418

>>9465395

Perspective doesn't make objects appear smaller and smaller until they merge into a central point known as the horizon? This is such a simple fact that I can't believe you don't accept it.

>> No.9465428

>>9465413
>Navigators use maps (which are flat)
I'm done.

>> No.9465433

>>9464608
>9.8 seconds
lmao sci

>> No.9465434

>>9465428

Great argument.

>> No.9465436

>>9465418
>appear smaller and smaller
Yeah but how does that explain the curve?

>> No.9465440

>>9465436

You're not looking at a curve, you're looking at objects getting smaller as they go off into the distance.

>> No.9465460

Jesus, I hope commercial space travel becomes a achievable reality soon so these retarded mongoloids can look for a different topic to attack
already

>> No.9465463

>>9465460

Not going to happen, we'd already have it by now.

>> No.9465467
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9465467

>>9465440
Wow look at that, a curve.

>> No.9465469

>>9465463
Well then I hope for your sake that you live long enough to realise you're wrong about the vast majority of things you're fantasising about

>> No.9465479

>>9465467

Don't be tricked by the mirage, it covers the bottom of the pylons adding to the illusion.

>>9465469

Same to you.

>> No.9465487

>>9465413
>Because that's what secret societies do. The heliocentric model is advantageous to those in power.
Where is your evidence, man? Stop wasting time!
>Navigators use maps (which are flat).
And? How is this trickery? Flat maps are projections of geodetic coordinates. Have you seen paths of shipping lanes on flat maps? They're curved, because shortest paths on the globe appear warped when projected onto a flat map. I recommend that you study geodesy.
>What calculations do scientists do that involve the spherical nature of earth?
You betray extreme ignorance with this question. How do you even know how the scientists are tricked if you don't even know what they do?
Everything, from climate, forecasting, earthquakes, hurricanes, navigation, telecommunications, satellites, military manoeuvres. I work in modelling and simulations, and have to account for the curvature when combining geodetically referenced satellite images and aerial photographs in the computer model. Please describe to me how I'm being tricked and how it's carried out.
>You've said it yourself, the matter has been settled
Did not.
>so scientists don't bother experimenting to prove the shape of the earth
Wrong. Models are constantly updated for accuracy. Surveys are done all the time. I know this. Or am I being tricked? Please provide evidence and analysis.
>By the way, architects and bridge builders don't take into account the curvature. Pilots do not account for the curvature.
Just flat out wrong. If you disagree, please provide evidence.
You have still yet to describe the mechanism of this trickery. Or to provide evidence of a mass global conspiracy.
Even you must see that your arguements are orders of magnitude weaker than the evidence for global earth.
I'm STILL waiting for your rigorous evidence and analysis of a global conspiracy that involves hundreds of millions professionals and experts tricked flawlessly, yet you know of this conspiracy by some means inaccessible to us.

>> No.9465496

>>9465479
>it covers the bottom of the pylons
Then why do they curve downward and not upward?

>> No.9465502

>>9465302
are you the fucking autistic retard that keeps spamming /srg/? man you have some problems.

>> No.9465507
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9465507

>>9465479
you realize that mirages over water cause things to appear upwardly curved, right?

anyway, it doesn't matter. pic related. no matter how much you cry and scream "WAAAAH FAKE!!!!! IT CANT BE REAL BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN I AM WRONG WAAAHHHHH!!!" like a retard, just consider for a moment that the picture, which ANYONE can take just by going there, PRECISELY MATCHES the curvature expected on a globe model.

>> No.9465515

>>9465487
>By the way, architects and bridge builders don't take into account the curvature.
They don't have to, if the structure is small enough.
>Pilots do not account for the curvature.
They use a global coordinate system. You're literally assuming things in favour of your arguement- not that the fabrication even helps your arguement.

>> No.9465517
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9465517

i would encourage everybody to save this and use it every time you come across a flat earth retard.

>> No.9465525

i would encourage everybody to get a life holy shit aren't you embarrassed?

>> No.9465566

>>9465487

The heliocentric model is masonic sun worship, removing the earth from being the center of things to having the sun being the center of the solar system.

Flat maps are projections of flat earth made spherical, not the other way around.

>climate, forecasting, earthquakes, hurricanes, navigation, telecommunications, satellites, military manoeuvres

All these things work on a flat earth, although satellites are science fiction both literally and in literature (they began in science fiction magazines).

Please show me a real photo/video of a satellite in orbit.

Please explain how your work proves to you that the earth is spherical.

>Models are constantly updated for accuracy.

Provide evidence.

What is the mechanism of this trickery? Control the education system and its syllabus. The education system is designed so that you can only progress within it if you pass the exams. If you don't memorize and regurgitate what's been given to you, you will not progress both educationally or career wise. When you control that, you can control what people think and believe.

>> No.9465582
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9465582

>>9465517
>>9465507
>>9465467
Weak proof. The proofs I posted are better and the math with them can be applied anywhere to prove it s flat.

I ll go a link to the video so everyone can see how real it looks.

If it was real, you d be able to post other examples.


https://www.metabunk.org/a-side-view-of-the-curvature-of-the-earth-at-lake-pontchartrain.t9268/

>> No.9465588

>>9465566
>Please show me a real photo/video of a satellite in orbit.
literally just look into the night sky and watch for the blinking and moving dots

>> No.9465589

>>9465566
>The education system is designed so that you can only progress within it if you pass the exams. If you don't memorize and regurgitate what's been given to you, you will not progress both educationally or career wise. When you control that, you can control what people think and believe.

>he actually believes this

i think we got to the bottom of why this dude is so butmad. He failed school and he thinks that maybe if he proves "they were wrong all along" then he doesn't have to feel bad about being a retard.

i'll give you a hint for soul searching purposes: tests aren't regurgitation. to YOU they are regurgitation because literally all you know how to do is have information spoon fed to you. you can't actually think critically. and if you think you can you are hilariously delusional.

>> No.9465593

>>9465582
>Weak proof. The proofs I posted are better and the math with them can be applied anywhere to prove it s flat.
Weak proof. The proofs I posted are better and the math with them can be applied anywhere to prove it is round.

>> No.9465595

>>9465566
>Please show me a real photo/video of a satellite in orbit.
The moon.
You have provided ZERO evidence of this insane paranoid conspiracy.
To me, evidence is stronger that you are the one tricked by the conspiracy theory, than that there is a flawless global conspiracy over multiple generations that had no whistle blowers and tricked hundreds and millions of experts and professionals.
I'm still waiting for your convincing evidence of global conspiracy and how it all works so well. No need to be so secretive with it. Do share with us.

>> No.9465597

>>9465582
do you have some kind of disorder where you are somehow unable to remember things effectively? you do realize that that the metabunk page i linked provided numerous examples that WEREN'T at the lake ?

how many extremely long structures that go over water at a constant altitude do you think there are?

>> No.9465605
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9465605

>>9465582
Looks fake and he s been debunked.
Become a Patreon
https://youtu.be/kADO7nkt-rk

>> No.9465610
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9465610

http://www.strawpoll.me/14941910

>> No.9465613

>>9465588

Could be anything. You think you can see a satellite the size of a bus hundreds of thousands of feet in the air when you can barely see a 747 at 30,000 feet?

>>9465589

I have a Masters degree (freemasonic), I have been through the education system, not that it matters, as you are clearly dodging the argument.

>>9465595

>The moon

Very funny. I've already told you, government control of the education system. What's your argument against that?

>> No.9465616

>>9465613
>claims to have a masters degree
>doesn't even say what it is in

i'd love to hear about your masters thesis.

>> No.9465617

>>9465613
>Could be anything.
like what?

>> No.9465623

>>9465597
It s been debunked
In part, the same way you think it proves the curvature.
https://youtu.be/PqFN-_xwyF8

>> No.9465627

>>9465613
http://www.isstracker.com/
Had an app that let me know when it was coming overhead and looked up and it was there.

>> No.9465634

>>9465616

I bet you would because you're ignoring the argument.

>>9465617

Anything that can fly and project light.

>> No.9465638

>>9465623

so you admit that the pictures aren't fake?

you do realize that the claim that they are fake and the claim that they are turning slightly are incompatible statements, right?

anyway, the mere fact that the exact same phenomena appears on both sides of the transmission lines completely shatters this dude's argument.

https://youtu.be/ojMctpxCon8?t=1m22s

>> No.9465640
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9465640

>>9465610
My favorite Earth Ball is the one with sex in the clouds
The one where north america changes shape is second
Third is the Russian one where the forgot to take out the Photoshop hand

>> No.9465642

>>9465525
You have no evidence of people having a life existing.

>> No.9465643

>>9465634
>I bet you would because you're ignoring the argument.

if you can't tell me even the tiniest detail about WHAT you did to obtain your supposed masters degree (or even what school it's from) then it's just another one of your completely empty claims with exactly zero actual evidence to back it up.

>> No.9465646

>>9465597
Metabunk has been debunked

>> No.9465648

>>9465634
>Anything that can fly and project light.
But you say that satellites are fiction; what would orbit (I'm sorry, fly circles) over a flat earth and why?

>> No.9465650
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9465650

>>9465640

I like Pluto personally.

>> No.9465654

>>9465646
yeah, i'm going to need a little. you know... evidence? you know, a little bit of logic that supports your position and backs up the central point?

>> No.9465657

>>9465648

Hmm, if only we had the technology to make things fly in the air.

>> No.9465661
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9465661

>>9465640
>Random clouds formed something similar to letters
>It's a conspiracy!

>> No.9465665

>>9465657
avionics are a lie by the deep state. wake up.

>> No.9465667

>>9465613
Is it difficult to imagine that man-made satellites orbit the earth the same way the moon does EVEN with your flat earth model?
>I've already told you, government control of the education system. What's your argument against that?
There's nothing to argue. The government enforces standards in the education system to teach correct things. The government is not a conspiracy. It's the government.
Maybe you can give EVIDENCE of how the conspirators introduce falsehoods in the curriculum, with so many people involved in the system. How the conspirators trick them. And describe how everyone who uses the global coordinate system in their profession stays tricked, instead of discovering the flatness for himself.
To be clear, I'm not asking for your conjecture. I'm not interested in your personal fantasy. I'm asking for evidence.
I'm STILL waiting for your EVIDENCE of a global conspiracy, that remains undetected, and tricks many but you.

>> No.9465674

>>9465654
>>9465646
>>9465623
https://youtu.be/nQXGuNc72fg

>> No.9465684
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9465684

>>9465595
How did NASA measure the size and distance of the Moon?
Post the link please

https://youtu.be/6Myf7oH0n9g

>> No.9465685

>>9465667

Pic related is supposedly real video footage of the "moon" "orbiting" the "earth". Pathetic, isn't it...

> The government enforces standards in the education system to teach correct things. The government is not a conspiracy. It's the government.

You must be very naive to think that. That's also complete conjecture. If you don't think the government lie for their own benefit, then I don't know what else to say.

>> No.9465688
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9465688

>>9465685

>> No.9465693

>>9465684
>What is focal distance and depth of field?

>> No.9465694

>>9465674
hole christ this video it litterally misinfo.

just skipped to a random point. it claims that the north star never moves and is NOT 1 degree off center. has this person EVER seen the north star in their lives? it DOES move and i have seen it do so over the course of a night.

>> No.9465700

>>9465684
>NASA
When do you think NASA was created?

>> No.9465704

>>9465700
don't even try to get into that.

flat earthers do not understand that every single thing they dispute about astronomy was known to be a fact far before NASA was created.

>> No.9465715

>>9465685
>If you don't think the government lie for their own benefit, then I don't know what else to say.
So you finally admit no evidence, and to making a claim without evidence? Are you giving up?
Then I'll do the same: If you think there is an evil global conspiracy that remains somehow undetected, and that the earth is flat, then I don't know what else to say.

By the way, that moon footage looks perfectly reasonable given the low frame rate and the lack of atmospheric scattering in the vacuum of space.
Is it difficult to imagine that man-made satellites orbit fly overhead in the same mechanism the moon does EVEN with your flat earth model?

>> No.9465720

>>9465715
All the evidence you need for a flat earth is right in front of you. The next question is who is responsible for the deception of a spherical (sorry, oblate spheroid) earth. There's your task for today. Try and work it out.

>> No.9465722

>>9465720
Nopt that anon, but if the earth is flat and globes are a distortion of its true nature, then where the hell is the seam?

>> No.9465732

>>9465722

Why would there need to be a seam?

>> No.9465738

>>9465720
>All the evidence you need for a flat earth is right in front of you.
All I got was pseudoscientific garbage spewed by somebody who is not aware to which extent professionals and experts all over the world depend on the global coordinate system.
Where is your evidence of a conspiracy that produces fake images of the planet from space? Don't give up now.

>> No.9465740

>>9465732
Because the Earth is finite, and the representation is faithful. A finite plane is not homeomorphic to a sphere('s surface).

>> No.9465743

>>9465738

>professionals and experts

As if that's any accolade. Their salary depends on what they are taught, not what they actually know.

>>9465740
>Because the Earth is finite

How do we know that's true?

>> No.9465745
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9465745

>>9465694
https://youtu.be/tp6UkqIwVfk

>> No.9465748

>>9465745
are you seriously trying to refute my claim that Polaris moves in the sky by posting a video of Polaris clearly moving in the sky?

>> No.9465752

>>9465740
plot twist: earth is a moebus strip

>> No.9465753

>>9465743
I knew you would attach yourself to that.
If it were not finite and you were to cut a piece out of it, you'd have the same problem as before (finite plane to surface of sphere).
If it were infinite, considering the globe you wish to map it to is finite, you'd still need a seam wherever you put the point at infinity.

>> No.9465755
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9465755

>>9465738
https://youtu.be/NV1X6JOnmQg

>> No.9465760

>>9465752
That's actually the moon, that's why we only see one side of it.

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9465762

>>9465745
>>9465748
https://youtu.be/5WtSTPodQ60

>> No.9465767

>>9465753

Considering the horizon always remains at eye level no matter how high you go, is evidence that the earth is infinite, or at least far far bigger than we're being lead to believe.

>> No.9465772
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9465772

>>9465762
this is a new level of retardation. trying to disprove something so plainly obvious as the fact that Polaris moves over the course of the night.

literally google "polaris star trails" and notice how polaris is not a single dor amidst a bunch of streaks, rather, it is also a streak it'self.

>>9465767

honestly i do not understand how you could see direct evidence against you and simply go back to believing a simple lie. pic related.

>> No.9465778

>>9465767
Okay, but going back to what I said earlier: seeing as a seam is required to exist (as globes, wrong as they may be, are still usable), where is it located?

>>9465752
Laughs aside, how would it orbit the Sun? How would it even rotate? Someone should simulate that.

>> No.9465779

>>9465743
>Their salary depends on what they are taught, not what they actually know.
Irrelevant. Their daily operations DEPEND on the global coordinate system. They would FIND OUT immediately if the earth was not round. I, in my profession, would know if I were given satellite imagery that fit onto a plane, not an oblate spheroid.
You claim that ALL of these people are tricked simultaneously, flawlessly. Where is your evidence of this global conspiracy? All you did was repeatedly sidestep the issue that you have no evidence of an evil conspiracy that fabricates photographs of the Earth.
I'll have to believe that you don't have convincing evidence until you provide them.

>> No.9465787

The artifical seam would be Antarctica which surrounds us. The North pole is at the center. This is how compasses work. They point to magnetic north, the central circle of the earth, so any direction you go opposite to it, you go south, to Antarctica. This is also why flights go east to west rather than north to south.

>> No.9465789

>>9465779
And yet it is admitted that the globe map isn't accurate either. As someone has already pointed out, adjustments are constantly made to it. So it doesn't seem as if they are dependent on something that's 100% accurate.

>> No.9465797
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9465797

>>9465789

>> No.9465798

>>9465787
How were Amundsen and co. able to doctor their images in the '10s?

>> No.9465802

>>9465772
https://youtu.be/S2subVaRUfk

>> No.9465807

>>9465802

Polaris moves in the sky. i don't know how else to put it. i have seen it move. i have taken time lapse pictures showing Polaris moving in the sky. i have showed you star trails showing Polaris moving in the sky. but for some reason you seriously won't stop latching onto the belief that Polaris stays perfectly still.

you are literally insane. you are incapable of accepting evidence, no matter how strong.

>> No.9465810

>>9465789
>adjustments are constantly made

stop saying things that aren't true just so you can convince yourself that your obviously false and decrepit web of beliefs is actually true.

>> No.9465812

>>9465789
I was the one who pointed it out. Do elevation surveys and more accurate measurements for different applications make maps inapplicable for flight navigation? Please stop if you don't know what you're talking about. You're rambling and grasping at straws.
Where's your evidence of an evil global conspiracy that fabricates photographs of earth? Don't come back until you have them.

>> No.9465813
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9465813

>>9465566
>>9465589
>>9465667
>>9465685
>>9465715

>> No.9465814

>>9464498
Repeated by Alfred Wallace and found to have curvature.

>> No.9465815

>>9465797

Funny how it doesn't show Antarctica.

>>9465798
Doctor what images? Amundsen also mysteriously disappeared when his plane went missing on a flight to the North pole.

>> No.9465822

>>9465802
>I'm going to quote lots of large numbers to sound like I know what I'm talking about!
>What even are distances and angles
>Polaris MUST be moving the same speed and direction as the sun for it to stay above the north pole
>Flat earth proof globetards

Actually kill me

>> No.9465827
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9465827

>>9465812
>>9465797

Good enough to fight a world war with

>> No.9465830

>>9465260
It's almost like he's......

>baiting everyone

and everyone falls for it.

>> No.9465832

>>9465815
https://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica%20fact%20file/History/roald_amundsen_pictures.php