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9421526 No.9421526 [Reply] [Original]

Why should I care about what happens to the "environment"? Humanity will survive and mathematics research will continue at the same pace even in a worst-case climate-change disaster scenario. I'm not a zookeeper. I don't even like cats that much. Now you want me to save the polar bears?

>> No.9421531

>>9421526
>Humanity will survive
no

>> No.9421539

>>9421531
All of humankind will die in the foreseeable future due to climate change? no survivors? Average temperatures rise a few degrees and there's suddenly nothing a spacefaring civilization can do to survive the month of July?

>> No.9421544

>>9421526
>Why should I care about what happens to the "environment"? Humanity will survive and mathematics research will continue at the same pace even in a worst-case climate-change disaster scenario
Not necessarily. For example as Bill Nye has said, climate change is directly related to causing terrorist attacks and conflicts in Syria, and wars always affect mathematicians (tons of Germans and Polish mathematicians died in WW2), permanently affecting the flow of research

>> No.9421547

>>9421526
I feel the same way anon. What’s even more surprising is people wanting to do things like save the Tasmanian Devil, when they are literally dying from natural causes. We had nothing to do with the genetic bottlenecking that has caused their cancer to turn into a contagious disease.

>> No.9421550

>>9421544
>Bill Nye

>> No.9421554

>>9421539
>I don't understand how biology and ecology work

>> No.9421556

>>9421544
This seems like a really, really big stretch. Wars and conflict have been dying out naturally for decades now and all indications point towards a remarkably peaceful future. I don't think you could convince me any shortage of resources, any large migrations, or any extinctions of animal species will cause any genuine war on the scale of something like Syria 's civil war

>> No.9421569

>>9421554
Why don't you quit the suspicious, handwavy bullshit and tell me how the human species is going to suddenly perish, with no doubt whatsoever? You're the one with an agenda to sell here. If you care so much about getting people to realize why the issue is so important, why don't you just explain why that's the case?

>> No.9421570

>>9421556
Geopolitical disturbance, emerging diseases, fragile human construction, disrupted ecosystem

>> No.9421612

>>9421570
Thanks

>> No.9421617
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9421617

>>9421526

>> No.9421624

>>9421570
>geopolitical disturbances
Why should I care what happens in the political sphere? You calling me a brainlet or something?
>emerging diseases
Sucks, but also something the human species has been battling for a long time, and will continue to battle regardless. No doubt medical technology will continue to progress quicker than this small potential problem will grow because of the temperature factor
>fragile human construction
Huh?
>disrupted ecosystem
So? Don't we disrupt the ecosystem enough to plant our food and raise our cattle? If the entire thing fell apart, why wouldn't we continue to keep growing everything we needed to continue life as normal?

>> No.9421648

>>9421612
>>9421624

The summer of 2003 was special in Europe and France. In France there were 15,000 (!!!!) more deaths because of the heat wave during the first two weeks of August. 55% more deaths.

A very rich and well-developed country whose healthcare system was praised in the world was completely exceeded because it was 35°C-40°C (30°C-33°C was the norm).

It has greatly traumatized the French and politicians and many measures have been put in place to overcome this. So imagine if we have this heat wave for 1 month or 2 months or 3 months ...

>> No.9421670

>>9421648
If we plotted 'deaths due to heatwaves' against time since the industrial revolution began, could you confidently say we're on an upward trend?

>> No.9421705

>>9421648
But it hasn’t happened for another 15 years? Wouldn’t climate change involve this sort of shit frequently happening? It seems more likely that it was just a freakishly hot summer.

>> No.9421730

>>9421670
I meant deaths adjusted to population increase here, by the way. I'm sure deaths in every category have gone up in the last century just by population growth alone. In case there was a smartass answer to be given here