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Anonymous Fri May 14 17:08:42 2010 No.940514 [Reply] [Original]

Atheism is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the scientits. The atheist attempts to pass as a legitimate scientist, sharing /sci/ common interests and concerns; the thread members, if they are cognizant of atheists and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from atheism postings, and upon judging a poster as an atheist, make the offending poster leave /sci/.

Their success at the former depends on how well they, newfags — and the atheist — understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the atheist's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by /sci/.

Atheists can be costly in several ways. An atheist can disrupt the discussion on a thread, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the scientific community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to atheism — where the rate of deception is high — many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as atheistic.

This can be quite off-putting to the religiousfags who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded as an atheist is quite damaging to one's scientific reputation.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:09:42 2010 No.940518 tldr

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Anonymous Fri May 14 17:11:42 2010 No.940534

tsde

you seem to imply that atheists cannot be scientists, which would mean all scientists were theists. Furthermore, why should a religious fag post religion related material on a science board of which one of the three specific rules is that there will be no science Vs. Religion?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:14:42 2010 No.940546 We're both circumcised. It's our world to lose, comrade.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:17:42 2010 No.940565 I stopped at >scientits

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:22:42 2010 No.940585 File: 25 KB, 493x402, 1273609357121.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >scientits

>>	joker !!xx5PIpND6Kw Fri May 14 17:23:42 2010 No.940596 >scientits lol'd, sag'd, report'd

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:24:42 2010 No.940599 >>940514 Most scientists are agnostics. Most of /sci/ are agnostics. (Atheist leaning agnostics, but lets not get into a semantics debate) Most OPs can't spell "scientists"

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:30:42 2010 No.940639 >being branded as an atheist is quite damaging to one's scientific reputation. as an atheist myself I have to disagree with that one

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:33:42 2010 No.940665 wtf

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:36:42 2010 No.940679 >>940639 You're an ATHIEST? I will never take any of your scientific papers seriously from now on.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:37:42 2010 No.940683 File: 34 KB, 500x429, agnostic.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>940599

>>	PulsarShit Fri May 14 17:45:42 2010 No.940730 Could a beleiver be a good scientist? Yes. Could an atheist be a good scientist? Yes. Beleiving or not is not a condition to be a good scientist.

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Anonymous Fri May 14 17:46:40 2010 No.940735 [DELETED]

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Poll among scientists:

BELIEF IN PERSONAL GOD 1914 1933 1998

Personal belief 27.7 15 7.0
Personal disbelief 52.7 68 72.2
Not sure 20.9 17 20.8

Summary of a paper that appeared in the 23 July 1998 issue of Nature by Edward J. Larson and Larry Witham: "Leading Scientists Still Reject God." Nature, 1998; 394, 313.

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Anonymous Fri May 14 17:52:42 2010 No.940765

Poll among scientists:

BELIEF IN PERSONAL GOD:

Poll in 1914:

Personal belief : 27.7%
Personal disbelief: 52.7%
Not sure: 20.9%

Poll in 1933:

Personal belief : 18%
Personal disbelief: 68%
Not sure: 17%

Poll in 1998:

Personal belief : 7%
Personal disbelief: 72.2%
Not sure: 20.8%

Summary of a paper that appeared in the 23 July 1998 issue of Nature by Edward J. Larson and Larry Witham: "Leading Scientists Still Reject God." Nature, 1998; 394, 313.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:53:42 2010 No.940770 Listen atheists and agnostics, you guys don't have to get into arguments about semantics. You both hate god and are both going to hell, so you'll have plenty of time to argue in eternity.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:54:42 2010 No.940775 >>940730 I think I like you. You seem reasonable.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:58:42 2010 No.940784 Replace the word atheist in the OP with troll and this will make sense. I bet none of you even noticed that and went straight to the "omg he said something bad about atheism" phase.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 18:12:42 2010 No.940824 >>940784 >>940784 >An atheist can disrupt the discussion on a thread >An troll can disrupt the discussion on a thread >An troll can disrupt the discussion >An troll can >An troll

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 18:23:42 2010 No.940865 >>940683 Aside from anti-theists there are no gnostic atheists.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:10:42 2010 No.941998 >>940865 care to explain?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:13:42 2010 No.942016 This thread is still going?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:16:42 2010 No.942029 >>941998 A gnostic atheist would simply be an agnostic...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:19:42 2010 No.942039 The board is science and math. Not religious discussions. Can we please limit it to things that are actually relevant?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:23:42 2010 No.942062 >>940534 >implying that atheists can be scientists troll harder

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:28:42 2010 No.942082 >http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5957981/1/Take_Me_Into_Your_Ark

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Anonymous Fri May 14 22:29:42 2010 No.942084

Jesus' eyes widened an imperceptible amount as he took in the sight of Noah, naked, before him.

Fumbling for something witty, he said, "So the ark's not the only bit of wood my father gave you."

Noah grinned – his grey eyes flashing in lust. "Your father isn't the only one who gives me wood."

Jesus laughed. "I can see that." He reached for the hem of his tunic and began to tug it roughly over his head, revealing his chiselled torso, a gift from his dad. Noah watched, hungrily, as he slipped out of the rest of his clothes, leaving them in a son-of-godly heap on the floor.

Jesus stopped when he was in his underwear, a little embarrassed. He was the son of the creator of the entire universe, and he couldn't get some decent boxer-briefs. Noah's eyebrows shot up in acknowledgement of his Spiderman-patterned crotch.

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Anonymous Sat May 15 00:02:42 2010 No.942501

http://smg.media.mit.edu/people/judith/Identity/IdentityDeception.html

Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroup members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings and, upon judging a poster to be a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they - and the troll - understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.