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9404740 No.9404740 [Reply] [Original]

>infinite universe
>only life on it are semi evolved apes that can barely reach their own moon and will never even get to the closest star
Seems kind of a waste of space desu

>> No.9404744

>>9404740
>infinite universe
Is it?
>only life on it
Is it?
I think the rest of your post checks out, but I'm not sure where you're getting those two conclusions from.

>> No.9404747

>>9404744
>I'm not sure where you're getting those two conclusions from.
From not being a brainlet

>> No.9405071
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9405071

>>9404740
>will never even get to the closest star

>> No.9405074

>>9404740
>will never even get to the closest star
They're literally planning it right now

>> No.9405084

>>9404744
He looked at his tiny corner of the universe and extrapolated.

Why he didn't come to the conclusion the universe is full of life is still a puzzle.

>> No.9405182

>>9404747
Wrong.
This conclusion in particular:
>only life on it
Doesn't agree with the standard cosmology model.
Lambda CDM assumes the generalized Copernican Principle that we're not special.
Being the only life in the entire universe would make us extremely special.
So again, where are you getting that conclusion from?

>> No.9405251

>>9405074
>>9404740

>the closest star
>what is sun

>> No.9405275

Define "waste of space"

>> No.9405276

>>9404740
The universe is not infinite since its expanding meaning it had to come from a singular point, the edge of the universe is just too far away to detect with light rays thats why it appears to be infinite to us.

>> No.9405537

>>9405276
SOOO...will we ever get out of the solar system? Will we ever get inside a black hole and see what's going on past the event horizon? Will we ever explore the edges of the universe?

>> No.9405581

>>9405276
>t. I have no idea what I'm talking about

>> No.9405700
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9405700

>>9405276
>the edge of the universe is just too far away to detect with light rays

>> No.9405707

>>9404740
>Evolution never happend.

Desu.

>> No.9405708

>>9405251
>we'll ever go there

>> No.9405724

>>9405537
We will not get out of the solar system but it's reasonable to think others might using generational ships, the only problem with that is if you have a generational ships why not just build a more permanent version

>> No.9406075

>>9404740
Was einstein actually retarded?
>time slows down near a black black hole

How retarded dost onestve have to be to believe this?

>> No.9406121

>>9406075
>How retarded dost onestve have to be to believe this?

Pretty retarded considering that is not what GR says.

>> No.9406149

>>9406121
Yes, einstein had nothing to do with time dilation....

anyway, time dilation doesn't exist and relativity is garbage.

>> No.9406158

>>9406149
You are missing the whole point of relativity. Time is not an absolute.

Time does not slow down around a black hole, it just appears to an outside observer.

>> No.9406169

>>9406158
No, the allegation of time dilation is that two clocks synced, one left alone say on earth and the other flown through space, when the travelling clock returns to the left stationary clock, they would read different times and no longer be synced.

It's topkek retardation

>> No.9406197

Universe does not seem to be infinite, and smart apes don't go to stars because they are HOTTTT

>> No.9406205

>>9406169
Still, if you are an observer standing in front of the clock in the moving reference frame, time will not appear "slow" to you. The clock will tick normally. But relative to the observer on earth, it will not.

>> No.9406224

>>9406169
You are fucking retarded m8. They've done the experiment with clocks on jets and directly found time dilation.

>> No.9406236

>>9406197
>Universe does not seem to be infinite

Citation needed.

>> No.9406244
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>>9406236
It's seems to be convex, the age of the universe wouldn't make sense otherwise

>> No.9406253

>>9406244
Ω = 1.00±0.02, It's flat.

>> No.9406256

>>9406244
>I got my Physics degree 20 years ago

Isn't it time to go to bed grandpa?

>> No.9406315

>>9406224
Nah, they took two complex and delicate machines and put them on planes in the fucking 70's where any little jostle or extra g forces could easily cause them to fuck up and hiccup in measuring. An attempt to retry the experiment using the ISS produced a result of 7ms for half a year. Compared to the plane experiment from the 70's that said there was a 200ns difference for a week of recording. 200ns × 26 = 5200ns / .0052ms for half a year.

Made up bullshit. So much shit in thos world is made up bullshit made worse by brainlets who can't cross reference each other to keep the lie consistent.

>> No.9406325

>>9406075
The better question is how retarded do you have to be to believe the guy whose name became a synonym for "genius" was a retard.
A little skepticism's fine, but when you find yourself coming to conclusions that are completely opposite to consensus reality you might want to stop and ask yourself "is everyone else wrong, or am I just being a contrarian idiot?"

>> No.9406328

>>9406315
I suggest you take a few Physics classes. Don't want to be a brainlet forever, do you?

>> No.9406335

>>9406315
It works with stationary clocks at different altitudes

>> No.9406370

>>9406315
They've done the experiment with the clocks in vibration-canceling containers. Every single time they've done this experiment it's confirmed relativity. Must be a huge coincidence that random vibrations caused that. Face it, you're a delusional nutjob.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele%E2%80%93Keating_experiment

>> No.9406379

>>9404740
>only find out that earth moves around sun 500 years ago
>expect to find aliens right now

>> No.9406380

>>9406315
>The ISS has the same time dilation as an airliner
Holy shit kill yourself you massive faggot.

>> No.9406383

>>9406370
B-But Einstein was a JEW, therefore the hundred or so distinct experimental verifications of relativity were each falsified to trick us into thinking he was right!
Also he's a plagiarist because there were vague references to the concept of relativity in philosophy papers earlier in history, which is EXACTLY THE SAME as publishing the equations for relativistic kinematics!

>> No.9406385

>>9406315
but anon... planes and ISS are on very different distances...... time dilation can't be the same for both of them.............

>> No.9406396

>>9406385
Gravitational and velocity dilation for the ISS basically cancel each other out. He's just another /x/tard with delusions of grandeur.

>> No.9406406

>>9406379
>Thinking the earth moves around the sun

>> No.9406450

>>9405700
The light rays from the edge of the universe have not reached us yet and the edge constantly moves faster than light so we wil never really see the edge of the observable universe unless this damn whatever the universe is stops expanding and becomes static.

>> No.9406545

>>9406450
>edge of the universe
no such thing

>> No.9406568

>>9405276
>it had to come from a singular point
nope

>> No.9406570

>>9406169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdRmCqylsME

>> No.9406578

>>9404740
Why the fuck would we go to the sun?
It's fucking hot. Anyone we send there would immediately die.

>> No.9406693

>>9404740
The universe creates life to experience it's own existence.

>> No.9408462

>>9405071
That pic is awful and should be deleted.

>> No.9408481

>>9406315
you sound like you're from /pol/

>> No.9408703
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>>9406570
yes, its much more likely time dilation exists rather than something dead simple like the two(2) seperate reference clocks being desynced.
god forbid g forces play any role either, we're only attempting to make a physical measurement after all.
and doublegod forbid the second not be redefined in the 60's to a unit of measurement that not even modern home computers could accurately record.
Need a 9GHz processor just to match the cycle hertz of caesium-133, nevermind whatever goofy implementation of engineering to track and record it accuratetly at that rate would probably push 10Ghz in the least.

But yes, back in 1970 they accomplished with with sub 1mhz computers.

checks out, its legit.

>> No.9409491

>>9404740
If the universe is infinite there's infinite intelligent species, silly.

>> No.9409498

>>9405071
Pretty sure we'll get pretty fucking close to the sun senpai. That's the closest star to the earth, in case you forgot.

>> No.9409514

>>9405537
>Will we ever get out of the solar system
Depends on how you define your terms

https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status/
>Voyager 1 is in "Interstellar space"

As far as I'm concerned, it counts.

>Will we ever get inside a black hole and see what's going on past the event horizon? Will we ever explore the edges of the universe?
Not sure these are possible but you can bet your ass that we're sure as hell going to try.

>> No.9409605

>>9404744
>>9405084
>>9405182
here you go https://futurism.com/evolutionary-biology-intelligent-alien-life/

>> No.9409614

>>9404740
>infinite universe

The amount of matter within the universe is not increasing so the fact that it is expanding is not as important. At most, it is only a bad thing because it means all matter is being pulled apart such that compounds and structures as we know them today have gloomy futures.

>> No.9409634

>>9406693
>the universe has volition

>> No.9409663

>The Big Bang Theory
>The Theory of Evolution
>Light travels

People actually believe this.

>> No.9409684

>>9408703
>random other factors could account for the differences
That's the specific reason why you do a statistical test of significance, which they did.
Also the test during the 70s wasn't the only test.
So you're basically arguing they falsified the statistical significance test each time.

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>>9409684
Theres a specific reason brainlets from the past keep trying to define suddenly discovered concepts and constants with immeasureably large numbers.