can you explain why this is the case?. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946531657229701120

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Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:43:39 2017 No.9399810 [Reply] [Original]

can you explain why this is the case?.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946531657229701120

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:45:46 2017 No.9399815 The word 'global' could be a hint. There's an active thread about it already, we don't need another one.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:47:26 2017 No.9399820

>>9399810
Weather is stochastic, meaning that occasionally you get an extreme even. These events are incredibly hard to predict. However the average (and the trend) over months and years is easier to predict.

Or in other words: sometimes bad weather happens, it in no way changes the long term prediction.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:45:12 2017 No.9400121 >>9399810 There is no lower threshold of IQ for fertility?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:43:18 2017 No.9400229

>>9399810
The Arctic is leaking, because heat increase ie. energy increase has made the jet stream around the north pole turn into a cogwheel shape.(**)
If you add up the total heat amount over this new area, you find it is increased - the distribution has changed: warmer north pole outweighs the colder east coast.
The reason the east coast, and not the west coast, gets cold is a combination of the direction of the Coriolis force and the distribution of land mass & water mass.

(**) https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/16/277911739/warming-arctic-may-be-causing-jet-stream-to-lose-its-way

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:20:17 2017 No.9400296 >>9400229 npr is a pretty left leaning organisation, do you have a source from a more politically neutral organization?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:28:57 2017 No.9400309 >>9400296 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Scholar

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:41:42 2017 No.9400324

>>9400309
the ceo of google helped cinton by designing their website (some of the help he provided may still be undisclosed), there was also the not so far past issue of the search suggestions given by google when the search term "Hillary emails" was entered into the search bar.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:31:01 2017 No.9400375 >>9400324 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:40:58 2017 No.9400387 >>9400375 Kek >it goes deeper

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:50:39 2017 No.9400395 >>9399820 What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:15:39 2017 No.9400420 >>9400296 npr is the peak of journalism tho

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:42:18 2017 No.9400452 >>9400395 I'm blue if I were green I would die

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:20:59 2017 No.9400480 >>9400395 hitchens only applies that to religion you dense fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:44:46 2017 No.9400496 >>9400480 >>9400395 Hitchens was a hack and so are both of you

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:49:57 2017 No.9401265 >>9400375 Is this an admission of your inability to provide a source from an organization that isn't politically biased?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:52:43 2017 No.9401271 >>9401265 what organization would you consider to be unbiased?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 13:05:45 2017 No.9401291 >>9401271 They don't exist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:05:26 2017 No.9401513 File: 215 KB, 1920x1080, climate change 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9400395

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 16:33:31 2017 No.9401731 >>9399810 I still can't believe this man is the president of the united states.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 16:36:19 2017 No.9401737 >>9401731 What other choice was there? The general public is full of idiots but at least they were smart enough to not allow Clinton the presidency. Although he wouldn't have been elected had the democratic race not been rigged in Clinton's favor.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 16:37:09 2017 No.9401740
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>>9399810
>president expertly manipulates his scientifically illiterate followers by pandering to their anti-intellectual, propaganda induced delusions.

well gotta give him credit for knowing his audience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:09:02 2017 No.9402552 >>9401740 >scientifically illiterate followers why do liberals always act so high and mighty?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:15:15 2017 No.9402560 >>9402559 that's........ not how ships sink

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:18:18 2017 No.9402565 >>9402560 Go down to your parent's basement and dig up their VHS tape of the 1997 film Titanic, that's where the imagery comes from.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:22:38 2017 No.9402570 >>9402565 why do all liberals get their opinions and facts from movies? go watch a proper cgi recreation of the sinking no big ship will sink like that, it's ridiculous

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:24:03 2017 No.9402572 >>9402570 >Implying I'm a liberal

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:29:14 2017 No.9402577 >>9402560 fun fact, the stern really did raise off the water, probably not as much as on that picture though, but it's the reason the ship split into two parts

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:35:03 2017 No.9402582

>>9399810
Trump knows the 'climate change' is real, he's just pandering to his base.

He absolutely made the right decision though to pull out of the nonsense climate accords which just handed money to dictators in third world shitholes. The scientific consensus on climate change is it's going to happen, nothing we can do about it at this point, the best strategy is to make as much money as possible today to fortify your economy for the coming hell on earth and mass migrations that will happen from desertfication and flooding. Even if we all magically found a new source of energy and switched to it we'd still have catastrophic climate change because that's just how it is, and how earth has cycled over the billions of years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:38:44 2017 No.9402590 >>9402582 It's not like Trump even pulled out of deals that work fairly for everyone. Carbon credits are still in place. The stupid treaty benefited third world shitholes while being bad for america

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 02:24:47 2017 No.9402641 >>9399810 Trump is officially the biggest brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 02:26:54 2017 No.9402643 >>9402582 >nothing we can do about it wrong

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 02:59:46 2017 No.9402684
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>>9399810
It has been observed that warming and melting in the arctic results in colder temperatures in northern continents. There isn't 100% consensus yet but the leading theory is that warming in the arctic disrupts the gulf stream. The gulf stream is kept in place between a strong temperature gradient on either side of it. When the arctic warms, the temperature difference decreases and the boundary of the gulf stream loosens. This causes the gulf stream to meander north and south, so you get pockets of cold air pushing down into the US/Europe/Russia and pockets of warm air pushing into the arctic.

A better way to look at the current state of the climate is to look at the current temperature anomaly globally, which you can do here:
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#t2anom

Right now everywhere except northern America is warmer than average.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 03:30:53 2017 No.9402706 >>9400395 >he asserts without evidence

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 03:48:05 2017 No.9402723 >>9402552 If the voting base really understood how serious AGW is, and how shitty his policies were in regards to it, they wouldn't have voted for him. And they did. Ergo, they're fucking retards Also vaccine science illiteracy, muh autizms!

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:03:34 2017 No.9402732

>>9402723

Do people on this board even know?

A quote from the Arctic Methane Emergency Group: " If we consider food security alone, the Arctic with its perennial sea ice has been crucial for world agriculture to be viable for at least two reasons:

It has kept the jet air streams (see “Introduction” below) within the behaviour range which makes agriculture viable; whereas with BAU, the jet air streams will very likely be well out of this range by 2025 if not sooner."

Doesn't that mean we won't be able to grow food at scale in ten years?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:10:21 2017 No.9402736 >>9402684 >antarctica is warmer than american midwest. who is dumb enough to believe this shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:10:52 2017 No.9402737 >>9400229 There's a jet stream of bullshit coming out of your mouth, my friend!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:13:15 2017 No.9402740 >>9402736 I don't think that graph is measuring overall temperature... I think it's measuring temperature change.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:18:31 2017 No.9402742 >>9402732 heat & droughts ---------------------- https://youtu.be/Mc_4Z1oiXhY?t=23m10s C3 & C4 ----------- https://skepticalscience.com/co2-plant-food-advanced.htm

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:19:35 2017 No.9402744 >>9402736 Learn to read, retard

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 06:40:41 2017 No.9402856

>>9402582
>the best strategy is to make as much money as possible today to fortify your economy for the coming hell on earth
Making money is not going to do your economy any good if global supply chains break down and you are unable to buy anything with your money.

We may also be able to use some geon-engineerig (e.g. fleets of mist sprayers or ocean alkanization with bicarbonate) to buy ourselves some time while we bring down emmisions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:25:47 2017 No.9402878 If we are pumping CO2 into the atmosphere creating a greenhouse effect, why doesn't the CO2 sink back down because it's heavier than oxygen? How's it staying up there?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:34:30 2017 No.9402885 File: 31 KB, 180x250, mfw-nextome.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9400296 >npr is a pretty left leaning organisation >>9401265 >politically biased mfw political bias overwhelms fact

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:49:17 2017 No.9402893 >>9402723 >If the voting base really understood ((anything)), >they wouldn't have voted for him Perhaps so ... but that is a really huge qualification.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:54:56 2017 No.9402907 >>9399815 who are you to say what "we" need?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:58:09 2017 No.9402911 >>9399826 >he think global warming effects are tat quick and dramatic kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:59:25 2017 No.9402914 >>9402878 Out in the open atmosphere, there is enough motion in the air to keep the oxygen and carbon dioxide mixed up. This motion of the air mostly comes from convection currents (i.e. wind) caused by temperature differences.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:04:43 2017 No.9402917 >>9402572 you're a movie which is even worse

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:07:54 2017 No.9402924 >>9402684 so it's gonna get colder in winter? finally western europe can get piles of snow on a regular basis. i still haven't heard a downside to this global warming thing. fuck the gulf stream

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:09:35 2017 No.9402926 >>9402723 How serious do you think it is though, cause the way you're talking about it you probably fall on the opposite end of the autism spectrum

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:10:37 2017 No.9402927 >>9402917 >>9402924 time to pack up, the idiots have arrived

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:11:35 2017 No.9402930 >>9402732 >Doesn't that mean we won't be able to grow food at scale in ten years? >you'll never be this retarded feels good

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:36:21 2017 No.9403186

>>9399810
Can someone explain why I should care in the slightest about AGW?
What's the worst case scenario? Human extinction? Wiping out all live from the planet? So what? You're aware that's inevitable and it's going to happen sooner or later, nothing lasts forever? So why should I lower my high standard of living so to postpone the inevitable?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:48:26 2017 No.9403218 Beccause space alloys ggets mmore epensive untill you realize we will have to leave, because you think redducing human footprint is political agenda.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:53:43 2017 No.9403232 >>9403218 >REDUCE THE HUMAN FOOTPRINT! >But also import more immigrants that contribute nothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:17:43 2017 No.9403286 >>9403232 >WE NEED TO STOP THE REFUGEES >But let's also cause more refugees crises to occur over the next century

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:05:29 2017 No.9403375 >>9403286 >Prevent refugees from reaching shore, return the ones that do immediately Wow it seems this refugee crisis is an artificial problem created by people who want more 3rd world immigrants

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:12:55 2017 No.9403392

>>9403375
i guess you could block out all refugees
But global warming is gonna affect everything, whether you give a shit about the rest of the world
Even if you don't help anyone else it's gonna make natural disasters like floods, drought, storm etc more common
it's gonna increase the range of many diseases and parasites, it's gonna make freshwater ecosystems more eutrophic (gross)
And a host of other things

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:46:33 2017 No.9403465 >>9403392 I personally think we should wait until the supposed point of no return, if shit pops of like the scientists said there will be massive incentive to invent something to fix the problem, the market will fix itself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:50:38 2017 No.9403471 >>9403465 The market won't fix itself, they'll ask for their neoliberal puppets to fix it for them and they'll front the bill to you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:58:09 2017 No.9403488 >>9403471 why do you have to be big suka?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 13:20:54 2017 No.9403537 >>9402907 oh shut the fuck up

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 15:44:25 2017 No.9403821 File: 11 KB, 228x221, 32323232.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9403465 Amerisharts are priceless

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>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:11:48 2017 No.9404029 >>9403882 is this comic supposed to convey the idea that extinction is inevitable eventually so losing your mind over climate change is a waste of time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:31:37 2017 No.9404106 >>9402736 this is bait

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 07:08:12 2017 No.9405032 >>9404029 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 07:12:47 2017 No.9405036 >>9400121 There isn't but there should be. Really Nazis know in their hearts this is true.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 07:15:10 2017 No.9405039 >>9399810 Damn. /pol/ really did a number on this board. Now you're bound to be talking to a legit brain dead retard in every thread.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 08:04:57 2017 No.9405102

>>9403186
If you lived in the middle of nowhere off the land entirely with no contact to the outside world this point would be defensible. But you dont, you profit off being a member of society (re communal good will) every day in everything you do with the tacit agreement to contribute. That you can ostensibly vote explains why America is such a shithole.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 08:09:20 2017 No.9405108

>>9402560
>>9402570
>HahAHA I know nothing about boyles, henrys, or pascals laws ; additionally I have no understanding of bernoulis principle or of fluid dynamics in any general sense

Is air less dense than water? If the answer is yes then ships can and do sometimes sink like that.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 09:05:10 2017 No.9405183

>>9401513
What was the response rate of the participants in those studies?
>>9402684
Whats with all these local variations: Manchuria, Iraq, NW Russia? And who thought it a good idea to have regions with no temperature change fill in with white in precisely the same way as -30 regions?

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 09:19:35 2017 No.9405194
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>>9401737
>but at least they were smart enough to not allow Clinton the presidency.
toppest of keks

For one, the US public being "smart" did not decided the outcome of the election. The kooky electoral college system did.

Second you wouldn't have won your "great meme war" without the help of the Russians. There must be at least a dozen prominent twitter accounts that have now been outed as Russian controlled.

And most importantly, and I can't stress this enough, Trump is a Zionist who commutes the sentences of illegal immigrant employing kosher butchers when he thinks you're not watching. If anyone is leading you into WW3 it's him.

>Oppressive regimes cannot endure forever, and the day will come when the Iranian people will face a choice. The world is watching!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 09:25:41 2017 No.9405199 >>9405183 >And who thought it a good idea to have regions with no temperature change fill in with white in precisely the same way as -30 regions? Says the guy know does understand heat. Think about. HINT: continous University of Maine btw.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 09:47:06 2017 No.9405233 >>9401271 InfoWars of course REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:41:05 2017 No.9405287 >>9405039 >Now you're bound to be talking to a legit brain dead retard in every thread. Yes the africanization of the west has now taken place.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:49:40 2017 No.9405294

>>9405102
>If you lived in the middle of nowhere off the land entirely with no contact to the outside world this point would be defensible.
So because I live in the city humans will not go extinct and life will never cease to exist? You're retarded mate.
>tacit agreement to contribute
Yes I do have a job, this comment you made is completely unrelated to anything we were talking about
>America
Wrong fucking continent you massive cum guzzler

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:54:25 2017 No.9405300 File: 77 KB, 645x729, brainlet2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9400296 >can you link me crap scientists gtfo of sci

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:07:57 2017 No.9405321 >>9405036 >the nazis >interested in people being intelligent or becoming more intelligent you can pick only one my man. the nazis actually killed anyone intelligent. and dont come up now with fucking german engineeering.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:14:51 2017 No.9405329 >>9405321 >the nazis actually killed anyone intelligent what are you memeing about?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:13:53 2017 No.9406210 >>9402736 baaaiit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 22:52:07 2017 No.9406363 >>9402552 because there is nothing else to do when talking to someone who refuses to accept evidence or even hold a real conversation.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:01:38 2018 No.9407454 >>9399810 Yawn, yet another "so much for global warming" tongue-in-cheek remark tantamount to troll science. If you want to hear a more interesting and factual argument against carbon taxes and AGW alarmism, listen to Matt Ridley

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:14:59 2018 No.9407487 >>9407454 What about Steven Crowder?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:55:08 2018 No.9407568 >>9407487 >Steven Crowder I hope you're joking friend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 15:13:45 2018 No.9407600 >>9402737 Stop pointing with the cane, Larry

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:27:28 2018 No.9407843 >>9402570 https://youtu.be/FSGeskFzE0s I'm sure the Jews control Nat Geo though, right /pol/?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 19:56:54 2018 No.9408111 >>9402641 He has a tested IQ of 156. That's when he was in his 20's though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 20:15:30 2018 No.9408133 >>9402732 Not with genetic modification. Shit is wild.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 20:19:29 2018 No.9408137 >>9407454 no matter how many youtube personalities or late-night podcasts you throw at a topic, it's not gonna hold up compared to real science done by scientists """"arguments"""" are only good for self-radicalization

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:30:40 2018 No.9408666 >>9408137 Ridley is a science writer who cites and synthesizes dozens of peer-reviewed articles to back himself up. He's not your typical e-celeb bullshitter. The fact is that climate change has helped a great many people by increasing green vegetation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 03:24:54 2018 No.9408801 >>9408666 >666 Hey, Satan. " He is the owner of land in the north east of England on which the Shotton Surface coal mine operates, and receives payments for the mine." Sounds impartial to me to.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 05:50:14 2018 No.9408925 >>9399810 This Tweet shows in his mind: >Money is more important >Then the longevity of the human race

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 05:50:48 2018 No.9408927

>>9402926
Pretty fucking serious given that its something we dont totally understand but we know it could cause our society to collapse you dolt. I know you form your opinions off of infowars but fun fact; many crops, in particular rice, are not tolerant of wide temperature ranges and will not germinate above certain temperatures which we are already broaching in relevant areas. It seems like Americans will only accept AGW once it causes a global famine and ensuing refugee crisis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 05:54:25 2018 No.9408928 >>9403821 I wish there was a cultural exchange program between the burgers and the chinks, go live in hong kong for any amount of time and then tell me man made climate change isnt a fucking thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 06:14:23 2018 No.9408937 >>9408927 >societal collapse >world famine >infowars >american >refugee crisis You're a fucking lunatic, get off this board

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 06:41:19 2018 No.9408947 >>9408937 These things are happening right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 06:46:45 2018 No.9408950 >>9408925 Than*

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 06:47:01 2018 No.9408951 >>9408947 if you watch infowars

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 07:05:47 2018 No.9408965 >>9408951 What the fuck are you talking about? There has been an ongoing refugee crisis in europe for over a year caused by civil war and food shortage. One of trumps campaign promises was closing the boarders to immigrants from select countries.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 07:14:49 2018 No.9408968 >>9399820 True Only brainlet don't understand this Global warming deniers should be put in jail

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 07:16:31 2018 No.9408971

>>9408965
>refugee crisis
refugee crisis is an artificial crisis caused by incompetent politicians who are too weak to apply the rule of law
>caused by food shortage
please cite your source this was caused by food shortage, and this food shortage is caused by global warming.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:01:36 2018 No.9409270
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>>9399810
>understands averages when it comes to racial stereotypes
>forgets all about them when it comes to the weather
can't wait till all these old shitheads are dead and in the grave

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:04:18 2018 No.9409279 >>9402582 >the best strategy is to make as much money as possible today kek love how you niggers think virtual fiat (((currency))) has any meaning in a post apocalyptic world

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 16:31:04 2018 No.9409922 >>9409279 Thank you.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 16:53:42 2018 No.9409973

>>9408666
>increasing green vegetation

No, it hasn’t. Co2 is almost never the scarcest necessary component of plant growth. Desertification progresses apace. And even if AGW was good for farming, it is still beyond shortsighted to imagine that disrupting the entire worlds climate patterns is justified by a marginal increase in agriculture.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:14:06 2018 No.9410008

>>9409270
look it's fairly obvious what he's doing
Trump is intelligent enough to know why what he's telling is bullshit
He's also intelligent enough to know the millions of people who aren't are the folks who'll support him for denying climate change.
He's also intelligent enough to realize he's to rich and old for global warming to ever affect him in any way and in all likelihood his family will be to rich to be affected seriously by the effects of global warming.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:16:48 2018 No.9410013

I am not a climate change denier, I am asking this because I need an explanation.

I am seeing some crazy fearmongering on Fagbook that the Earth will experience insane desertification if global warming continues.

Can some climatologist explain to me how the world being hotter can decrease rainfall? If anything I'd think it would increase. More heat means more evaporation, meaning more water for clouds. Rising ocean levels also means more ocean surface area, which again means more evaporation.

Somebody explain please.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:28:19 2018 No.9410042 >>9410013 Can you see why it changed from "global warming" to "climate change"? It's so they can blame any weather event on CO2 despite it being utter fear-mongering pseudo-science.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:38:26 2018 No.9410074 >>9404029 Correct, doing what is necessary to reverse the Climate trend would result in nuclear war. The rise of Islam would also be unstoppable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:40:10 2018 No.9410077 File: 70 KB, 1000x563, 2016-hottest-year-record-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9410042 they should have left it global warming since that is actually what it is, and a good description of whats happening.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:49:57 2018 No.9410107 >>9410008 >Trump is intelligent enough Is he though?

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:50:48 2018 No.9410111

my earth sciences prof said that Al Gore was the worst thing to happen to climate sciences.

He's been teaching earth/environmental systems for a long time. Before Al Gore's stupid truth, he says that teaching about climate change and global warming was the same as teaching about metamorphic rocks. No drama, global warming was just a known part of earth sciences. Students accepted it. Then Ol' Gore comes around, and everything goes to shit.

Interestingly, he also has data from his years of teaching regarding opinions of his college students. Each semester he asks the same questions to the whole class - how old is the earth, is climate change caused in part by humans, etc. There has been a steady downward trend in 6000 years old / "no" answers.

At least the future generations won't be so retarded. But it will sorta be too late by then, unless we figure out how to reduce the residence time of CO2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:51:58 2018 No.9410113 >>9410107 nope, he's almost illiterate and has fading cognitive abilities. In a way I'd rather him golf every day than make decisions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:02:05 2018 No.9410140 >>9410111 If you are giving celebrities Climate awards, it shows you aren't serious about change. In fact, that's a 1000 times worse than what Trump is doing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:04:38 2018 No.9410144 >>9410013 http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg2/index.php?idp=403

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:05:33 2018 No.9410148 >>9410140 Could you elaborate?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:06:54 2018 No.9410154 >>9410077 They couldn't because temperatures have been falling. You can see it's going back down in that graph.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:12:12 2018 No.9410167 >>9410154 2017 was the hottest non-El Niño year ever recorded.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:14:32 2018 No.9410171

>>9410154
>t. brainlet

When considering years of climate data, you must look longer than 18(?) years I believe, for an actual assessment of a trend. Furthermore, the huge tropical storms of the late 90s have lasting effects. Thus the false trend of a “plateau” of recent years. It’s a laughable claim to make, not because it is entirely false, but because it’s simple data manipulation to try and show to normies that global warming is Fake

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:16:41 2018 No.9410175 >>9410148 People are partisan hacks, virtue signaling has the complete opposite effect on people. If I go on a date with a girl, keep calling her a slut, and then give myself the chastity award, I'm probably not getting a second date.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:17:03 2018 No.9410177 File: 59 KB, 750x450, Falling.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9410154 Yes, look at these falling temperatures...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:22:46 2018 No.9410193 >>9410177 Do you seriously think the data from the 1800s and 1900s is going to be accurate? Did they attach thermometers to pigeons and fly them all around the world? Give me a break.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:24:29 2018 No.9410198

>>9408971
>please cite your source this was caused by food shortage, and this food shortage is caused by global warming.
I didnt claim the current famines were caused by AGW, I said the scientific consensus is that AGW could / probably will cause famine.

https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-homepage/21162/eu-announces-eu82-million-emergency-aid-famine-declared-south-sudan_en
https://www.oxfam.org/en/emergencies/famine-and-hunger-crisis

>refugee crisis is an artificial crisis caused by incompetent politicians who are too weak to apply the rule of law

RE you think social issues can be solved by totalitarian government because any other form of control is a tacit agreement of the people.

Further, what the fuck is an "artificial crisis" and how does it differ from the inferred natural one. People dont and often cannot just pack up and leave their homes because they dont like the current poltiical climate. They protest and if need be start a revolution even to the point of militancy, under you thinking the trainwreck that is Iraq is the peoples fault because they could simply move somewhere else. Do I also need to provide sources on the conflicts both civil and militant in Egypt, Syria, Turkey, India, among others?

Not being alarmed over the state of climate change is quite ridiculous given that it may be the largest threat to our society since the advent of the nuclear weapon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:25:35 2018 No.9410202 >>9410193 Do you seriously not understand how a thermometer works or any basic physical principles?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:26:48 2018 No.9410204 >>9399826 The last coldest winter I had in this area was -40. After that, we had flowers blooming this time of year. This year is rater nostalgic for me. My water actually froze off. It's been -10F at best though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:40:05 2018 No.9410238 >>9410198 >nuclear weapon. Good thing they're a myth as well then. >>9410202 Yeah I guess they had it all figured out in the 1800s.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:42:00 2018 No.9410243 >>9410193 >Do you seriously think the data from the 1800s and 1900s is going to be accurate? Yes, that's when coverage and standardization became sufficient to use the data. And I fail to see how that would show temperatures have been falling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:45:41 2018 No.9410249 The Earth's natural state is without ice, seems like we are returning there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:47:19 2018 No.9410252 >>9410249 >The Earth's natural state is without humans...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:47:50 2018 No.9410253 >>9410243 >coverage What with? A few thermometers stuck in some beanstalks?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:49:33 2018 No.9410259 >>9410252 Mammals thrive at higher temperatures, so says the fossil record.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:49:57 2018 No.9410260 >>9401513 If they were really right, it should only require one scientist to be convincing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:50:01 2018 No.9410261 >>9399810 I think it's because the president of the USA does not understand the distinction between weather and climate. But some people would rather believe that he's playing 9399810D chess

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:53:05 2018 No.9410263 File: 25 KB, 450x219, 1890 temp stations.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9410253 Do you ever get tired of pulling shit out of your ass?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:53:12 2018 No.9410264 File: 35 KB, 600x632, 1499955686717.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9402560 >He never sank a ship

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:53:17 2018 No.9410265 >>9410261 Liberals don't seem to understand that distinction either. I was told a thousand times, Huston and Puerto Rico were destroyed by climate change.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:53:24 2018 No.9410266 >>9410260 If it were only one, /pol/tards would immediately argue that he is biased because he smoked weed once 40 years ago and because he donated $5 to the democratic party

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:54:32 2018 No.9410267 >>9410266 Then stop believing weed smoking Democrats

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:58:32 2018 No.9410275 >>9410259 Which mammals are those exactly? Because man has always lived in a climate with ice at the poles. And temperature is positively correlated with extinction rate: http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/275/1630/47

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:59:43 2018 No.9410277

>>9410238
>Good thing they're a myth as well then.
I actually dont know what point youre trying intimate here.

>Yeah I guess they had it all figured out in the 1800s.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3639894

I recommend you actually research topics instead of forming a conclusion based on your intuition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:00:19 2018 No.9410279 >>9410260 >If the Earth was really round, it would only require one scientist to convince all the flat-Earthers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:00:57 2018 No.9410280 >>9410275 Our evolutionary ancestors. We know fish are fucked, there is nothing we can do about that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:02:15 2018 No.9410285 >>9410260 That is not how scientific consensus or indeed the scientific method functions you dolt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:04:01 2018 No.9410292 >>9410285 Deniers are irrelevant, this is an engineering problem.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:09:07 2018 No.9410301

>>9410280
No, wrong again. For almost 100 million years the climate has been steadily cooling, and the ape line evolved completely over that period, eventually resulting in humans. If anything, one would have to argue that colder temperatures are better for humans. Regardless, this argument completely misses the point, since it is not simply the temperature which is concerning but the rapid rate of change in the temperature, which does not allow for species to adapt in time, leading to a higher rate of extinction.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:12:53 2018 No.9410306

>>9410292
Deniers are incredibly relevant as it requires social and political capital to institute change. Also its more of cultural problem than it is one of engineering. Its very unlikely we can engineer our way out of the problem without an accompanying paradigm shift of perspective concerning consumption, envrionmental impact, and our need for continual expansion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:20:21 2018 No.9410324 >>9410301 You have absolutely no idea if that is true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:21:25 2018 No.9410326 >>9410306 >Deniers are incredibly relevant as it requires social and political capital to institute change. Pack up then, because you're fucked. That will never happen, ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:23:37 2018 No.9410331 >>9399810 Last winter was also especially cold. 2017 was also the warmest year on record. That's the difference between weather and climate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:25:23 2018 No.9410336 >>9408968 >Global warming Please say climate change so we don't get more idiots saying "it's colder in January than in July, so much for global warming!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:26:54 2018 No.9410338 >>9410113 >In a way I'd rather him golf every day than make decisions. He has done less and golfed more than any other president, so you almost have your wish.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:27:06 2018 No.9410340 >>9410331 It's not just "especially cold" This is the coldest it's been on this day in history for my city since 1884.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:28:45 2018 No.9410345

>>9410198
>I didnt claim the current famines were caused by AGW, I said the scientific consensus is that AGW could / probably will cause famine.
moving the goalposts i see, you said these thing are happening right now whatever. the link you shared say nothing about global warming causing famines anyway.

>RE you think social issues can be solved by totalitarian government
what the fuck are you even saying you mongoloid

>"artificial crisis"
a "crisis" that only exists because politicians let it come to be and stoked it with their ineptitude and indecisiveness.
>People dont and often cannot just pack up and leave their homes because they dont like the current poltiical climate.
except that's just what's been happening

>They protest and if need be start a revolution even to the point of militancy, under you thinking the trainwreck that is Iraq is the peoples fault because they could simply move somewhere else. Do I also need to provide sources on the conflicts both civil and militant in Egypt, Syria, Turkey, India, among others?
what is this about? and your english is mangled up i can't even understand you

>Not being alarmed over the state of climate change is quite ridiculous given that it may be the largest threat to our society
it won't cause societal collapse or world famine i can tell you that much. you've way too many political pop sci crap on youtube

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:28:48 2018 No.9410346 >>9410340 anything anomalous = global warming it really is seriously cold though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:31:27 2018 No.9410351 >>9410263 >only western europe and america are covered(as expected) >we somehow can deduce global temperatures from this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:31:40 2018 No.9410353 >>9410198 >Not being alarmed over the state of climate change is quite ridiculous given that it may be the largest threat to our society since the advent of the nuclear weapon. Holy shit LOL and I thought republicans were fear mongerers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:46:57 2018 No.9410385 >>9410324 See >>9410275

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:48:43 2018 No.9410388 >>9401513 Means nothing women's transgender studies prove magic exists and blacks can fly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:49:45 2018 No.9410390 >>9410275 >http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/275/1630/47 All I had to do was read the first sentence to know it's garbage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:02:30 2018 No.9410419 >>9410351 >we somehow can deduce global temperatures from this It's called interpolation, it's pretty simple.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:03:39 2018 No.9410423 >>9410390 All I had to do was read the only sentence of your post to know it's not an argument.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:04:52 2018 No.9410425 >>9402560 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjTuAV036yY See 37 seconds in. They do sink like that, not as high up out of the water as in that artwork, but the general idea is correct.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:05:50 2018 No.9410428 >>9410419 since it's so simple explain how you can know average global temperatures with thermometers only in western europe and north-east america

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:09:52 2018 No.9410443

>>9410428
>since it's so simple explain how you can know average global temperatures with thermometers only in western europe and north-east america
There were thermometers in the southern hemisphere throughout the instrumental record, so this is a bullshit loaded question. Also, we've known since the 90s that the same northern hemisphere stations we had in the 1880s are representative of global temperatures:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/joc.3370150207/full

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:16:50 2018 No.9410457

>>9410443
>There were thermometers in the southern hemisphere throughout the instrumental record
yeah like 5 of them are you serious?

>we've known since the 90s that the same northern hemisphere stations we had in the 1880s are representative of global temperatures
how do you know that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:18:16 2018 No.9410460 >>9410457 Read the paper, mongoloid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:19:42 2018 No.9410463 >>9410457 >>9410460 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01094017

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:23:26 2018 No.9410469

>>9410460
if it's so simple as you claim it shouldn't be a problem explaining how that's done instead of redirecting me to a paper. unless you're full of shit and don't have any idea how that works and you're just using words like interpolation without knowing what that is to look smart (not working btw)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:24:18 2018 No.9410473 File: 149 KB, 839x1280, F3.large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9410423 Okay, I read the paper, and thus confirmed what was in the first sentence. Here is the data fit. How embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:27:06 2018 No.9410481 >>9410340 That's exactly what weather is. In one city on one day, it was very cold. It was also colder winter of 2017 than usual, but the year as a whole was higher than average temperature. That is what climate is, long term trends over large regions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:31:14 2018 No.9410490 >>9410473 It shows exactly what it claims, not sure why that would be embarrassing. I mean, I get a little embarrassed when my wife tells me she loves me and then gives me a kiss. I guess that is a thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:40:14 2018 No.9410514 >>9410469 The paper explains interpolation in a few sentences, why would you need me to explain it to you? Perhaps because you are trying to use an ad hominem attack instead of responding to the substance of the argument?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:57:24 2018 No.9410557 >>9410263 Are those dots to scale? I mean for a thermometer to measure that much area you'd need millions of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:00:20 2018 No.9410565 >>9410557 >Are those dots to scale? My god you're dumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:07:28 2018 No.9410587 >>9410557 lel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:09:56 2018 No.9410593 >>9410565 I have no more questions your Honor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:18:54 2018 No.9410615 >>9410490 >It shows exactly what it claims That's right, they found a data fit to support their predetermined conclusion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:22:30 2018 No.9410632 >>9410557 >Are those dots to scale? actually lol'd

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:51:34 2018 No.9411405 >>9410326 I know, feelsbad man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:53:24 2018 No.9411408 He's just taking money from these programs because no one will notice until he's dead, kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:58:39 2018 No.9411413 >>9410345 Ok, I see now you are illiterate and incapable of expanding on your reasoning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 07:00:11 2018 No.9411415 >>9410615 You clearly have no idea how science is done. Let me educate you: >Form a hypothesis >Check whether the data supports the hypothesis and the difference to the null hypothesis is significant

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 07:04:23 2018 No.9411422

>>9411415
>Form a hypothesis
>Ignore data that contradicts your hypothesis and twist and alter your experiment to remove data contradicting your hypothesis then say it proves your original unaltered hypothesis and attack anyone who tries to bring up the fact that the data contradicts your hypothesis.
You meant to type this right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 07:06:04 2018 No.9411424 >>9411422 Where did they do that? Care to show any proof?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 09:54:24 2018 No.9411646 >>9410514 Perhaps because you're just saying words without knowing what they mean? Pretty fucking sure at this point you don't know what interpolation means.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 09:57:04 2018 No.9411650 >>9411413 >ilIiterate >says the person whose broken english is completely unintelligible

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 09:58:49 2018 No.9411653
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>>9399810
I'm glad you guys are talking about this.

I can post my shitty pictures.

It's snowing in South Georgia right now, it never snows here guys, this is so awesome.

I'm not making a political statement or anything /sci/-y I just thought it was neat. I never seen snow before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 10:04:25 2018 No.9411663 >>9411653 Snow's awesome, and if global warming means more snow where I live I'm all for it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 10:08:04 2018 No.9411673 >>9411646 You're just projecting your complete ignorance of the topic onto others, in order to avoid the argument. It's not working.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 10:15:26 2018 No.9411686 >>9411673 So you have no problem explaining how a bunch of thermometer in western europe +north east america and a few more scattered around the other landmasses can give an accurate estimate of global temperature

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 11:20:15 2018 No.9411795 >>9410388 what did you mean by this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 11:23:00 2018 No.9411798 >You scientists say that it will be warmer six months from now than it is today, but today is COLDER than yesterday. How can the trend be up if we’re going down! Morons!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 13:32:05 2018 No.9412014 File: 98 KB, 800x696, 1510351783204.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9405194 >California, Texas, and New York should decide the political fates of every other us territory

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 13:37:45 2018 No.9412022

>>9411686
Because they do not not differ significantly from temperature stations That were later added to the record. That is what the paper I posted shows. So far you have not responded to the paper, just lied about me not knowing what interpolation means. Pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 13:42:27 2018 No.9412026 File: 1.62 MB, 495x495, Pacha.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9400375

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 13:44:57 2018 No.9412028 >>9402582 >necessary investments would be a small fraction of the massive subsidies still being given to fossil fuel companies and would be received primarily by tech companies and manufacturers in first world nations What did anon mean by this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 13:50:29 2018 No.9412034 >>9412028 Bro just let it go, we had a good run. We're all just stardust anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:08:02 2018 No.9412048 >>9412022 We're talking about global temperature. They could not accurately measure global temperature in the 1800s, we can't even do it now.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:08:18 2018 No.9412051

>>9412014
>>California, Texas, and New York should decide the political fates of every other us territory
You left out Florida. But you're still wrong.
Under a popular vote system, EVERY SINGLE VOTE in California, New York, Texas and Florida (which would never happen) still isn't a win.
Let's add the next four biggest states? Still nope, every single vote in California, New York, Texas, Florida, Illinois, Georgia, Pensylvania and Ohio STILL isn't a majority.
But take a closer look at the EC.
Because all you need is 51% of a state to get all its votes, 51% of voters in 12 states can win against 49% of the voters in the same 12 states, plus every single vote in the 38 other states combined.

continued...

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:09:20 2018 No.9412052 [DELETED]

>>9412051
...continued
And besides, the alternative we unfortunately live with, is the inbred rednecks in the 20 smallest states (12% of the voters) control 40% of the senate.
Wait... actually, 51% of the voters in those states (6% of the voters altogether) control 40% of the Senate.
Most Americans who voted for the POTUS voted Democrat, but we goat an extra-retarded Republican anyway.
Most Americans who voted for Senators voted Democrat, but the Senate is controlled bu Republicans anyway.
Ok, the hose is an exception because the Republicans have gerrymandered so many states so heavily, there are a lot of districts where Democrats don't even bother to run.
But even so, in every district where the voters were given a choice, most Americans voted democrat.
You only like the EC because your party hasn't had a non-incumbent win the popular vote since 1980, and only two such wins since the 1920's, unless you count Nixon's 43% "win" in 1968 when the Dems split the vote and ran two candidates.
Most people still voted Democrat though.

You only like the EC because your party hasn't had a non-incumbent win the popular vote since 1980, and only two such wins since the 1920's, unless you count Nixon's 43% "win" in 1968 when the Dems split the vote and ran two candidates.
So your only two real wins in nearly a century are Reagan and Eisenhower, and Ike was practically a communist compared to modern Republicans.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:13:50 2018 No.9412056

>>9412051 (You)
...continued
And besides, the alternative we unfortunately live with, is the inbred rednecks in the 20 smallest states (12% of the voters) control 40% of the senate.
Wait... actually, 51% of the voters in those states (6% of the voters altogether) control 40% of the Senate.
Most Americans who voted for the POTUS voted Democrat, but we goat an extra-retarded Republican anyway.
Most Americans who voted for Senators voted Democrat, but the Senate is controlled bu Republicans anyway.
Ok, the House is an exception because the Republicans have gerrymandered so many states so heavily, there are a lot of districts where Democrats don't even bother to run.
But even so, in every district where the voters were given a choice, most Americans voted democrat.
You only like the EC because your party hasn't had a non-incumbent win the popular vote since 1980, and only two such wins since the 1920's, unless you count Nixon's 43% "win" in 1968 when the Dems split the vote and ran two candidates.
Most people still voted Democrat though.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:19:19 2018 No.9412062

>>9412048
How so? Do mean like directly measuring global temperature? Satellites can take direct temperature measurements over large areas. I mean, it's not the same as measuring the surface temperature of every point on Earth and averaging but it's pretty good.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:20:50 2018 No.9412063

>>9412052

>in excess of 90% of minorities tend to vote in one direction

No, I like the EC because we don't live in a perfect world where 100% of the eligible citizenry is effectively educated and willing to vote as an informed decision. Instead, the major population centers have the infrastructure to prey on the dregs of society and buy their votes with transportation, t-shirts, and laws interfering with proper voter identification.

I'm not a Republican, so you can fuck right off with your party bait bullshit. This idealism fueled virtue signalling is why we have the liberal and alt-right shitstorm dominating the vacuous minds glued to the shitcast screen 24/7.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:23:40 2018 No.9412067 >>9412063 None of your argument makes sense. The electoral college members all vote according to what the uneducated masses vote, the only difference is that it makes uneducated redneck votes matter more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:26:59 2018 No.9412077 >>9412062 just take the outgoing longwave and apply Stefan's law to get temperature it's simple, IRL it's more dirty than that but that's the underlying principle

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:28:39 2018 No.9412079 >>9410336 >Please change your falsifiable proposition into a non-falsifiable proposition so it makes it easier for us pseuds to dismiss our critics

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:32:20 2018 No.9412083

>>9412079
climate and weather have a definitive difference
atmospheric phenomena that lasts < 1 year is weather
atmospheric phenomena that lasts > 1 year is climate
simple, no hurricane has ever lasted longer than a year but on other planets like Jupiter that's not the case

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:36:23 2018 No.9412088 >>9412083 I'm not interested in your babble address the point

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:44:09 2018 No.9412102

>>9412067
>them damn rednecks
It's okay anon, I'll help you out. A large city with more avenues for installing a particular political agenda is necessarily going to be more apt to use those avenues. We cannot guarantee 100% voter turnout, so areas capable of improving turnout for whatever demographics suit them will have much better representations. The electoral college counters this (though imperfectly) by limiting the value of any given governance.

Just look at the election maps by county for the 2016 race.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:58:55 2018 No.9412120 >>9412022 You actually cant win against these retards

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:01:56 2018 No.9412125 >>9411650 The absolute state of american public education that you think full sentences with punctuation is grammatically invalid because you have the vocabulary and literary analysis skills of a gnat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:04:43 2018 No.9412130 >>9411663 It means less for pretty much everyone. You'll get more rain though! And tornados!

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:09:35 2018 No.9412140

>>9412102
I 100% guarantee before trump won because of the electoral college you wanted it gone too. I honestly can't believe Americans are so stupid. They see something the rest of the world does and no matter what they won't do it. It's why they're the most backward country on the entire planet. Whatever have fun living in your shit country. I just wish Americans would stick to one corner of the Internet, facebook seems like it would work, and let the adults have real conversations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:26:46 2018 No.9412162 >>9412102 >them damn minorities So it was never really about whether voters are uneducated, they just have to be right-wing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:30:02 2018 No.9412166 >>9412048 >We're talking about global temperature. Actually no, we're not. We're talking about global temperature anomaly.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 16:13:26 2018 No.9412248

>>9405194
>implying the US is a democracy in any form
“Ron Paul 2012 media blackout”
Your vote doesn’t matter. Not because they dont count it, but because the media conglomerates will not allow someone with your best interest in mind to make it far enough to make a difference. The US is a plutocracy, the elections, and politics in general, are just there to give you the illusion of choice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:09:21 2018 No.9412466 >>9405300 >Crap scientists are anybody who disagrees with my left-of-Stalin worldview. You aren't really a scientific person. You're just another whore for the leftist state.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:37:23 2018 No.9412511
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>>9407860
All the left does all day every day is claim ordinary weather events are due to climate change, and then one day Trump does the same thing and they just freak out: "THAT'S OUR SCAM!!!"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:40:25 2018 No.9412516 >>9412511 They aren't doing it right

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:49:27 2018 No.9412531 >>9412511 All /pol/ does all day is make up shitty straw men.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 19:07:59 2018 No.9412563 >>9412056 >Open the floodgates to millions of immigrants who are immediately lashed to the suckling teat of the welfare system and vote democrat in the hopes of more free shit Can't say anyone is really surprised anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 10:38:07 2018 No.9413467 >>9406363 Amazing considering your tribe throws biology out the window in favor of ideology daily

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 10:43:17 2018 No.9413472

Unless we start electing green politicians who will actually crack down on fossil fuel usage and drastically so, we will have the joy of finding ourselves living in a hellish environmentally devastated world by the time we are middle aged. And time sure flies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 11:52:41 2018 No.9413586 >>9413472 Yes sure let's vote for the politicians whose solutions is moving Africa to Europe and are hell bent in dismantling every nuclear plant

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:12:03 2018 No.9414358 >>9403471 The market gets more money from killing people than it does from saving lives, shithead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:21:28 2018 No.9414377 >>9413586 Nuclear energy seems good at first glance but then you realize the costs - not just money - involved as well as the damage done with each minor accident and the picture changes. Energy efficiency is the answer, supported by renewable energy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:53:05 2018 No.9414419 >>9414377 Oh well I guess we gotta go back to candles, horse transport and bedtime by 6pm for the next 60 years while we figure out efficient renewable energy

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:56:27 2018 No.9414425

>>9403392
You're right, we SHOULD block all refugees right now so we can use our available resources to solve these problems. Then we can provide our solutions to the leaders of the countries who will no longer need to send refugees because they will be self-sufficient. Really makes a lot more sense than dooming humanity by blindly giving out our resources as gibs to refugees we blindly let in.

Wtf I love closed borders now, closed borders will save the world

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:25:34 2018 No.9414482 >>9411653 >I never seen snow before. As a leaf, I will be honored to take over stewardship of your land after everyone in the southern states are wiped out from wind chill Leafs shall inherit the snowball earth

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:27:42 2018 No.9414726

>>9402560
Did you know that submarines would sometimes do this (not as dramatically) when diving too quickly? In emergency dive situations the entire crew that wasn't piloting the sub would run to the front to help counteract this. It would be really bad if the prop rose out of the water, especially when a plane was flying overhead as it would be really easy to spot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_dive

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:40:48 2018 No.9414807 >>9408925 This is true though. The human race is only temporary. Just ask the Neanderthals. Or the dinosaurs. Or even the Canaanites who have been successfully genocided.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:25:16 2018 No.9415188 >>9410175 Women love assholes who abuse them so you may likely get a second date.

>>	Prof Sai Fri Jan 5 01:51:31 2018 No.9415231 >>9412511 >>9412531 Show me a single (non-ironic) example of "left wing media" blaming an earthquake on climate change.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 05:00:20 2018 No.9415436 >>9415231 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/16/climate-change-triggers-earthquakes-tsunamis-volcanoes https://qz.com/681239/global-warming-wont-just-change-the-weather-it-could-trigger-massive-earthquakes-and-volcanoes/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 05:06:08 2018 No.9415442 >>9414726 >In emergency dive situations the entire crew that wasn't piloting the sub would run to the front to help counteract this. >run to the front to help counteract this. Are you dense? Subs have independent ballast tanks for a reason.

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:00:54 2018 No.9415539

>>9415442
Did you read the article? In the first paragraph it describes the procedure in detail, including spare crew running to the front of the sub to help crash dive faster. In note 1 it also explains of a German u-boat that accidentally lifted its rear out of the water when a crewman delayed filling the rear ballast tanks for too long.

Just read the first paragraph on the wiki anon, isn't that long. And if you really want to be stubborn do 5-10 minutes of your own research.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:07:47 2018 No.9415547 >241 replies bait successful

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 10:39:15 2018 No.9415847

>>9415436
>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/16/climate-change-triggers-earthquakes-tsunamis-volcanoes
>Devastating hurricane? More than 1,000 lives lost? It must be climate change! Almost inevitably, Hurricane Matthew’s recent rampage across the Caribbean and south-eastern US has been fingered by some as a backlash of global warming driven by humanity’s polluting activities, but does this really stack up?

>The short answer is no. Blame for a single storm cannot be laid at climate change’s door

>https://qz.com/681239/global-warming-wont-just-change-the-weather-it-could-trigger-massive-earthquakes-and-volcanoes/
>Climate change can only bring forward the occurrence of an earthquake if the fault was already susceptible to rupturing. These things can occur where there is ice or where there is increase in sea levels. But, even if these happen, their occurrences may be within the annual variation of the earthquakes of those sizes.
Doesn't blame any earthquake on climate change either, just says that earthquakes COULD BE CAUSED by climate change

Now if only you could read...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 10:49:58 2018 No.9415866 >>9408925 Dumbfucks elected a literal billionaire boomer who is one of the most narcissistic man on the planet into office. Why anyone expected him to have the future in his best interest is beyond me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 10:53:51 2018 No.9415875 >>9414807 But money, on the other hand, is eternal! Oh wait

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 10:56:43 2018 No.9415879 Trump is referring to weather, not climate.

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 11:03:28 2018 No.9415888
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>>9412088
>point is made by incorrectly understanding the semantics used so the point has literally no ground to stand on
>anon explains the semantics which would automatically infer to anyone with the slightest bit of reading comprehension that the point was moot in the first place
> a hurf durf not interested in ur babble

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 11:24:41 2018 No.9415931 >>9412248 shut up you fucking retard, there is a difference between source and structure of power in government and the US is a democracy as the power of government is drawn from the people

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 11:27:45 2018 No.9415939 >>9414377 You know nothing about electroweak physics or the engineering challenges and history or nuclear energy or large scale energy generation of any kind. Though you are correct that efficiency now is better than hoping for wizard tech.

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 11:35:22 2018 No.9415957

>>9402552
Probably because on many of the hotly debated topics their side is demonstrably supported by all data from domestic and foreign sources. EG abortion, climate change, tax reform, healthcare, criminal code among others. Everywhere else in the developed world these are all already accepted facts and what is debated is implementation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 12:21:27 2018 No.9416052 >>9415847 Now if YOU could read go back to this >>9412511 and tell me how that image is inconsistent with what you're saying

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 12:51:58 2018 No.9416120 >>9399810 >people in America are freezing to death >Drumpf is more worried about the East Since when is he president of Asia?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 13:15:39 2018 No.9416174 >>9415875 The concept of money 'can' be eternal. Even isolated tribes in the middle of nowhere or on an island have barter systems.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 13:26:56 2018 No.9416186 File: 217 KB, 1172x764, hwhwoojhtfws6hihs3wk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9399810 Pic related is the temperature anomaly on the day he tweeted that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 14:35:47 2018 No.9416319 >>9416174 Currency systems are in no way equivalent to barter systems. What you mean is the concept of value can be universal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 14:47:26 2018 No.9416335 >>9416186 Proof that God will protect America from global warming or coinkydink? Only time will tell...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:25:26 2018 No.9416412 >>9415931 >the US is a democracy as the power of government is drawn from the people >he actualy believes this Pfffthahahahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 17:50:48 2018 No.9416662 >>9416412 Are you an anarcho-communist?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 18:19:08 2018 No.9416704 >>9416662 you don't have to be an anarcho-communist to realize how big a fucking fraud US democracy is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 20:41:35 2018 No.9417024 >>9416704 Edgy, did they teach you this in your humanities class?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 20:48:01 2018 No.9417033 >>9417024 He's right though. It's a republic, not a democracy, and you don't even get on the ballot without a tremendous amount of money and support from the party chairs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 20:54:45 2018 No.9417048 >>9417024 Oh wait, he's serious, let me laugh harder. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 20:58:30 2018 No.9417054 How much are sun cycles impacting all of this? Aren't we going out of a max now?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 22:30:02 2018 No.9417280 File: 758 KB, 624x676, pootang come on now.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9405194 >russians made (((tr*mp))) president so he could wage war with iran and norks, two of russia's strategic allies

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 23:29:59 2018 No.9417417 >>9417033 It's a federal republic. Complete difference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 08:33:31 2018 No.9418122 >>9417280 >America isolates itself while Russia becomes a more attractive ally to countries around the world just for having a rational leader Solid move by Putin

Anonymous Sat Jan 6 08:42:54 2018 No.9418138

>>9418122
Putin expanding influence in his border states by taking over their news while simultaneously reducing confidence in western democracy by openly manipulating elections all while slowly stoking the embers of the cold war. It's a bold strategy but seems to be working.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 11:10:36 2018 No.9418312 File: 29 KB, 473x500, 1514982240703.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >unironically defending global warming Jesus, the Jews really did a number on you guys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 11:18:36 2018 No.9418324 >>9417033 >>9416412 >>9416704 >>9417048 >When you have no clue about political theory Read a fucking book jesus christ

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 16:38:26 2018 No.9418939 File: 208 KB, 1053x709, lavroved.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9418122 That's 4D chess for you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 17:10:41 2018 No.9419027 >>9401291 This. Any uneducated fuck can dismiss whatever they want by strawmanning those trying to assert views that they ideologically oppose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 17:25:45 2018 No.9419070 >>9410204 >My water actually froze off Was the baby hurt?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 17:53:49 2018 No.9419130 >>9399826 sigh when will drumblgrumpfkins understand?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 17:56:43 2018 No.9419134 >>9402552 Holier than thou syndrome, just for the fact that they are moralfags and they fucking love science

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 18:06:00 2018 No.9419160 File: 877 KB, 1058x794, 1510950288084.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9418939 Wishing you a 2018 full of happenings

Anonymous Sat Jan 6 20:25:17 2018 No.9419498
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>>9412102
>We cannot guarantee 100% voter turnout
Why not? Australia does.
basically instead of making it easier for people in rural areas to vote, you make it arbitrarily difficult for city dwellers to vote, and then the laws get thrown out by a court because they caught you guys literally researching what kinds of IDs black people tend to use and then disallowing those.

the Electoral College really is the result of slavery. under the 3/5ths compromise, slave (Southern) states could count their slaves towards census representation in the House. but if the popular vote nationwide determined the President, Southern states wouldn't get to do that. so instead, they tied the proportions to Congressional delegation counts.
it was never about rural versus urban states; EVERY state was rural when they wrote the Constitution.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 12:13:57 2018 No.9420860 >>9400296 >NPR is a left leaning organisation kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 14:00:21 2018 No.9421089 >>9401513 >Studies into scientific agreement that the Earth is flat. Circa 11th century

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 17:44:51 2018 No.9421541 >>9415847 >Hurr I'm not wrong because I moved the goal post

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 7 19:25:06 2018 No.9421795 File: 23 KB, 283x283, 1500890218854.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9419498 The state of civic and political knowledge and virtue in america lmao. Only they could think the amount of electoral repression and manipulation that goes on is ok.

Anonymous Sun Jan 7 19:38:42 2018 No.9421842

>>9419498
>caught you guys literally researching what kinds of IDs black people tend to use

Someone elses?

If you don't have the ability to prove who you are then you shouldn't be able to vote. If you don't have a government issued photo ID then you don't have this ability. Be glad we stop at telling you that you can't vote and don't deport you to North Korea I don't see what's so racist about IDs. I don't see what's so wrong about denying people too dumb to get an ID a vote. I don't see why you want everyone to vote in the first place. Half the country has a double digit IQ. Even more for the black part of this country. Why in the world should their votes count as much as the guys with 3 digits? Why don't we let the apes in the zoo vote while we're at it?

Anonymous Mon Jan 8 06:00:06 2018 No.9422682

>>9421842
>If you don't have the ability to prove who you are then you shouldn't be able to vote. If you don't have a government issued photo ID then you don't have this ability.
Except that they don't accept all government issued photo ID.
A common practice in those laws is to allow things like gun permits, but not student IDs, since rednecks are more likely than college students to vote Republican. and because they're so damn incompetent at disguising their motives, the courts throw out the laws over and over again.

stay salty, stormfag.

Anonymous Mon Jan 8 07:19:16 2018 No.9422755

*waddles to keyboard, frothing at the mouth*
GLOBAL WARMING IS A (((GLOBALIST))) CONSPIRACY TO HARM WESTERN MANUFACTURING.
*wheezes in pain as lungs struggle to keep pace with the rigorous activity known as typing*
UM SWEETIE THIS IS WHITE GENOCIDE, (((THEY))) ARE TRYING TO KILL US.
*fatty tears congeal in the corner of eyes, too thick and greasy to roll down cheeks, or perhaps too lazy*
WHITE WOMEN ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AND NOT IDEALIZE WHITE MEN, AS IS THEIR OBJECTIVE BIOLOGICAL ROLE.
*heart strains to pump blood through obese veins*
IF WHITE MEN LIKE ME DON'T GET TO SPREAD OUR SEED AMONG WHITE WOMEN, THE WHITE RACE IS DOOMED, AND IT'S ALL (((THEIR))) FAULT FOR THE CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX. I'D BE GETTING LAID IF NOT FOR THAT!
*praises Kek as the heart attack hits*
/POL/ WAS RIGHT AGAIN!

Anonymous Mon Jan 8 08:11:18 2018 No.9422809

>>trump says so much for global warming this is a record cold winter
>TRUMP IS A RACIST MYSOGINIST CLIMATE=/= WEATHER
>>al gore says this cold weather is exactly what you would expect from global warming
>lmao conservashits are so stupid, cold weather is proof of global warming of course
why are alarmists such shills?

Anonymous Mon Jan 8 08:27:12 2018 No.9422827

>>9422682
Australia just requires any government photo ID, and there isn’t any issues at all with the system. Why can’t you just appeal to implement the law which is fairest, rather than leaving a gaping hole because muh bogeyman might make it unfair. The only people that ID laws discriminate against are the people who aren’t allowed to be voting in the first place, which is exactly how it should be.
With your logic, there should be no restrictions placed on anything, because there could be ‘some way’ to make it racist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 09:23:06 2018 No.9422865 >>9422682 >A common practice in those laws is to allow things like gun permits, but not student IDs, since rednecks are more likely than college students to vote Republican. reliable source and examples of this cause it sounds like you made it up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 09:42:06 2018 No.9422885 >>9400296 reality is left-leaning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 14:07:56 2018 No.9423324 >>9408111 Citation needed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 17:00:18 2018 No.9423689 >>9419130 nod an argumend

Anonymous Mon Jan 8 17:14:16 2018 No.9423706

>>9422827
>The only people that ID laws discriminate against are the people who aren’t allowed to be voting in the first place

Incorrect, there are large segments of society who are the absolute scum of the Earth as well as dedicated liberal voters.

>to make it racist.
It's called disparate impact, according to federal law anything with a disparate impact, eg all the useless nigs without documents, is de facto racisms

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 17:23:20 2018 No.9423719 File: 2.61 MB, 1891x4901, climate change 4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9423324 Wew lad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 8 22:50:22 2018 No.9424345 >>9423719 Why do people think that taking a screenshot of bullshit on /pol/ will magically make it not bullshit?

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