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Where the fuck is everyone?

>> No.9390096

Probably jerking it to some kickass alien porn

>> No.9390110

Idk bro. That map only shows where we are. You need a map that shows where they are to know where they are.

>> No.9390122

>>9390095
Well seeing as how from where we are to the center is like 25000 light years, I'd say really fucking far away

>> No.9390145

>>9390122
If you could generate enough kk gravitons, you would travel 25000 light years in under 20 minutes through the 5d bulk.

>> No.9390153

>>9390095
Dunno in Centre is I

>> No.9390163

>>9390145
>his society hasn't even invented slipdrive that can get you to Andromeda in 5 minutes
goml

>> No.9390184
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9390184

>>9390145
>>9390163
here's hoping that these things are actually possible
I don't want to slowboat to the other stars, that would be fucking boring

>> No.9390192

>>9390095
They are out there asking where the fuck we are, as the vast VAST majority of the milky way has not yet received any hint of our existence. Not even radio waves.

>> No.9390195

https://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=39000

According to this theory they're already here.

>> No.9391214

>>9390095
>you are an alien from an advanced, peaceful society
>find a planet where the natives kill each other over stupid shit
Do you contact or not?

>> No.9391403

>>9391214
We contact violent tribes in the Amazon. Why not?

>> No.9391431

>>9391403
What if you'd seen a billion of said violent tribes already? Would it be worth the time and effort?

>> No.9391449

>>9391431
I can only view it through the lens of being human and always being curious and needing to explore. Any other creature with an intelligence on par or better than humanity I would assume to be similar. Also I assume the these creatures have generations and they wouldn't have seen billions and would want to experience it themselves.

>> No.9391450

>>9391214
there is no reason to believe there exists any species with technology more advanced than ours

>> No.9391452

>>9391431
Yes for encyclopedic knowledge

>> No.9391481

>>9391449
How many humans actually care about exploring space though?

>> No.9391499

>>9391481
Enough do.

>> No.9391510

>>9390110
And that map is only an idea. We don't know for sure what the galaxy looks like from the outside.

>> No.9391528

>>9390145
>not simply coating your spacecraft and communications systems in a quantity of negative mass sufficient enough to cancel out the positive mass and indeed dip the system's total mass far enough into the negatives so as to enable speeds 8×10^11 times greater than c, traveling 25000 light years in less than a second
Please

>> No.9391534

>>9391450
>there is no reason to believe there exists any species with technology more advanced than ours
Standard cosmology model (Lambda-CDM) assumes the generalized Copernican principle that we aren't special.
Thinking we're the species with the most advanced technology in the universe would not be a good guess per this assumed principle.
Until we discover otherwise, the best guess is of course that we're average, neither significantly ahead of nor significantly behind the majority of other planets with life on them.

>> No.9391546

>>9390195
good read

>> No.9391626

>>9390145
show time stamped alien benis

>> No.9391644

they are outside nerd

>> No.9391763

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA733aVjk2M

>> No.9392242

>>9391534
Believing there exist species with more advanced technology than ours is the same as believing in god. No evidence for either.
>Until we discover otherwise, the best guess is of course that we're average, neither significantly ahead of nor significantly behind the majority of other planets with life on them.
No, the best guess is always on the data available to you, which is that we are significantly ahead.

>> No.9392247

space is big, maybe we are early

>> No.9392261

>>9391534
Assuming "average-ness" in the absence of better data is the way to go. I quite agree with you.
The key word though is "significantly". A couple of dinky Iranian torpedo boats could completely wipe out Horatio Hornblower's wooden-hulls-and-canvas-sails navy in a few hours. That's a century or two of technical progress, absolutely insignificant on planetary time scales.

More reasonable to assume, either;
1. Intelligent life is extremely improbable and rare (which WOULD make us special)
2. Techical civilizations don't last long (something to worry about), or
3. Interstellar space is big and star flight will be expensive. They've decided not to expend the resources and, instead, put their efforts into developing better videogames.

>> No.9392305

>>9390095
The absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

>> No.9392414

>>9391403
currently we avoid contacting uncontacted tribes, and our difference in development is smaller than between us and hypothetical aliens which would be in millions of years

>> No.9392417

>>9392242
>Believing there exist species with more advanced technology than ours is the same as believing in god. No evidence for either

you poor fool

>An ideal instrument for a Dyson sphere study is an all sky survey covering a wide wavelength band centered in the 10 micron regime equivalent to 300 degrees Kelvin. These two requirements were satisfied by the mid-eighties IRAS satellite. A central mission for IRAS was to study cosmic dust, so there was no premium on resolution and the mirror had only a 0.6 m diameter. Still, the performance was satisfactory for a Dyson Sphere survey. The sensitivity was 1 Jansky while the angular resolution was 1 minute. Starting from a 250,000 source sample sources were discarded if the IRAS flux quality for the 12 and 25 μm filters only corresponded to an upper limit. This left 10982 sources. The search focused on a temperature range of 100 to 600 �K leaving about 6521 sources. No cut was made on proximity to other sources. By doing this partial Dyson spheres were not ruled out. As noted on the Dyson Sphere look-alike page there are several natural surrogates that are difficult to rule out. Several cuts were used on the LRS sample to focus in on a Dyson Sphere signature. These included temperature, classification, and visual scans in SIMBAD. This led to a sample of 17 weak and ambiguous candidates..

>> No.9392419

>>9392261
or they aren't interested

>> No.9392599

>>9392417
lmao you're actually retarded
this phenomenon was resolved a few years ago and proved that this is a complex double-star system with unusual orbits

>> No.9392697

Aliens are already here. Just look at animals lmao

>> No.9392712

>>9392697
lmao

>> No.9392744
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9392744

the milk way is 13 billion years old and 100,000 light years across.

it has taken 4 billion years for life to go from the simpliest of single cells to humans. modern human is only 30,000 years old. we have only been putting out anything detectable for a few decades. we've only been looking for intelligent life for a few decades.

consider the sheer numbers of stars and planets we have to look at. the further away we look the farther back in time. it is going to be sheer luck that we ever come across definitive proof of intelligent alien life.

the most plausible way to find life. Is to analyze the light coming from exoplanets. if there is free oxygen present in amounts more significant than trace. Then you can safely theorize that the planet at least has cyanobacteria and or algae. even this will be a monumental task.

>> No.9392775

>>9392599
>17 candidates
>this is a complex double-star system with unusual orbits

Who's the retard here?

>> No.9392850

>>9390095
right here retard

>> No.9392856

>>9392242
You're free to make up your own non-standard cosmology, I'm just telling you what the standard model assumes which is that we're not special.
>the data available to you, which is that we are significantly ahead.
What data specifically suggests we're "significantly ahead" of alien lifeforms?