/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9372810]

A couple interesting articles from NYT, one was a headliner:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-flying-object-navy.html

Any thoughts? Mostly has to do with a small part of the defense budget.

[Anonymous No.9373303]

Why is nobody talking about this?

[Anonymous No.9373367]

apparently nobody cares about /sci/ related news

[Anonymous No.9373430]

Ayy Lmaos confirmed

[Anonymous No.9373456]

*sniff sniff* I smell a brainlet

[Anonymous No.9373500]

>>9373456
Elaborate.

[Anonymous No.9373517]

>>9372810
Project bluebook pretty much confirms that all ufo sightings were secret AirForce shit or natural phenomena in the sky, for more elaboration on why people rhink ayys are out there I'd suggest you'd look into people like Richard Doty, he kinda paints a picture on how the Government can manipulate opinion of "truth seekers" I mean just look at Judy Wood

[Anonymous No.9373545]

>>9373517
>bluebook
its bluebeam you brainlet

[Anonymous No.9374254]

>>9373517
this

[Anonymous No.9374296]

>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.9374466]

>>9374296
>info released by the US gov. and published by major media outlets
>/x/

[Anonymous No.9374864]

>>9374466
modernist thinking for you

[Anonymous No.9376813]

So the objects observed by pilots seem to be real and recorded.
Any ideas what they might be?
Could they be some form of plasma-magnetic life(not necessarily self-aware) that didn't originate on Earth?

[Anonymous No.9376816]

>>9372810

Of course the government investigates UFO phenomena. Why is this surprising to anyone?

[Anonymous No.9376890]

>reports implying vastly superior technology in American airspace
Of fucking course the gov will imvestigate. They'd be negligent not to.

The problem is that human perception is flawed on every level. The level of guesswork your brain does to stitch together a continuous experience is terrifying when you stop and think about it. Just because someone truthfully describes their memory doesn't mean their memory is an accurate record or that their interpretation of what they saw is correct.

[Anonymous No.9377077]

>>9376890
This is video and radar from multiple sources of a craft effortlessly outrunning fighter jets and flying against the wind. Ive been a strong skeptic of ufos as aliens for my whole life, but this account...it baffles me.

[Anonymous No.9377084]

So if this is an alien craft, how does it work? Do they have alcubierre tech figured out?

[Anonymous No.9377096]

If it turns out that the US government and other governments around the world really have been suppressing information about alien visitors for all these years, then the level of butthurt coming out of the skeptic Community is going to be glorious, matched only by the level of jubilant smugness coming out of the UFO community.

[Anonymous No.9377129]

The tracking/centering on the vids makes it difficult to get an idea of how it moves.
I am reminded of a story about floating light bulbs that also seemed to accelerate enormously fast, which turned out to be car headlights somehow refracted over a hill like a mirage. The huge acceleration was from the cars going around a corner. Maybe a similar effect could happen in the air or with radar if the right shapes of hot/cold air or ions or whatever appears.

[Anonymous No.9377138]

>>9372810

I saw something weird once in the night sky. This might actually be a good place to ask for an explanation since there are lots of physics bros here

It was a dot of light similar in appearance to a star. It traversed the night sky about as quickly as a shooting star does, which is to say faster than a plane etc. but slow enough to keep track of.

The wtf part is that it was moving across the sky in ( as far as I could tell ) straight paths that were at angles to each other, with no apparent acceleration or deceleration. It was basically "bouncing" around like a pinball.

This sighting occurred pretty close to an Air Force base, btw.

Ideas?

[Anonymous No.9377142]

>>9377138
My idea is for you to kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.9377152]

>>9377142
Not a very original one desu

[Anonymous No.9377286]

>>9377129
they saw those objects in infrared and pilots claim water under the objects was churned

[Anonymous No.9377310]

>>9372810
Popularmechanics has an article about this, they consider theory that is an alien encounter as possible

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a14456936/that-time-the-us-navy-had-a-close-encounter-with-a-ufo/

[Anonymous No.9377311]

>>9377310
The second possibility is that the objects are actually operated by an arm of the U.S. government. Rumors of the federal government studying crashed UFOs or experimenting with secret technology have been rampant for decades, though with scant proof. If these were indeed secret U.S. craft, it is clear why they’re being hidden. The Super Hornet was a top of the line aircraft in 2004 and yet the object easily out-maneuvered and out-accelerated it. If America’s enemies mastered such technology, most (but apparently not all) of our armed forces would be defenseless against them.

The third possibility is that the objects were alien craft, piloted by aliens or an artificial intelligence, using technology we can’t even imagine. The objects, their controllers, and their motivations could utterly alien and unknowable.

[Anonymous No.9377553]

>>9373545
no it's bluebook

[Anonymous No.9377570]

>>9372810
>obligatory image

Disclosure will happen at some point, but there can't just be a deliberate mass release of governments saying, "ALIENS ARE REAL AND THEY'RE HERE" without causing more potential problems in society.

>Why don't they show themselves on the presidential white lawn if they're real then?

Watch Steven Greer's lectures and listen to his witness testimonies. Before you discredit him, listen to his statements, and check the facts for yourself.

Mainstream media is slowly drip feeding information into the public about the idea of being visited and contacted by extraterrestrials.

I thought listening about aliens on Earth was BS until hearing Steven Greer's perspective on the issue, then I started digging deeper myself. It all made sense to me now.

[Anonymous No.9377575]

>>9372810
shut
>>9377286
the
>>9377310
fuck
>>9377311
up
>>9377553
you
>>9377570
faggots

[Anonymous No.9377593]

>>9377575
t. alien

[Anonymous No.9377703]

>>9377129
Pretty unlikely explanation, they had multiple aircraft tracking it against the sky getting visual and radar readings.

Its fine to just say you dont know, but dont blather out a nonsense explanation like that.

[Shakira !!H8cUWHpHoX+ No.9377814]

>>9372810
I can't sleep /sci/ please debunk this I'm legit scared

[Anonymous No.9377830]

>>9377129
Why the fuck does it rotate???

[Anonymous No.9377846]

>>9377703
steven greer is a fucking retarded spook

sorry, if you believe in aliens you're a mongoloid. how is project blue beam not infinitely more rational? the government faking shit to trick people into submission is sort of the running playbook 200+ years strong

[Anonymous No.9377858]

>>9377310
Fucking hell even Popular Mechanics thinks it's aliens. This is it boys, prepare your asses.

[Anonymous No.9377869]

>>9377846
>Some nobody posts a UFO video
>"Lol it's faked!"
Fair enough.
>The fucking Pentagon releases a UFO video
>"Lol it's faked!"
C'mon.

[Anonymous No.9377964]

where is your god now /sci/

[Anonymous No.9377981]

>>9377846
>if you believe in aliens you're a mongoloid
I do not think it's inherently irrational to believe in extraterrestrial life, even intelligent extraterrestrial life. The possibility that we're an extremely rare or even an entirely unique phenomenon seems just as likely as the possibility that life has developed in other places than Earth.

That we've been visited by life from outside of our solar system or that aliens are currently among us seems a bit fantastical. Not impossible, but I'd need some compelling evidence to believe that. The more likely explanation imo is that we're witnessing something man-made.

[Anonymous No.9378002]

>>9377981
It easily outmaneuvoured an F-18. How can ot be man-made? What in the fuck can out maneuvoure a F-18, hover, dive underwater and evade US navy radar all at the same time? EVEN if this shit was possible, do you think the Russians could afford such a craft?

[Anonymous No.9378012]

>>9377575
great argument

[Anonymous No.9378014]

>>9377777

[Anonymous No.9378028]

>>9378002
It could be any organization as far as I'm concerned, why limit the answers to just "the Russians"? It could've even been some experimental aircraft funded by another organization that operates within the United States. There's a lot of money out there, a lot of special interest groups, and a lot of technological development. Anything is possible, but I lean towards humanity as the answer to the mystery before I lean towards ayyliens.

[Anonymous No.9378035]

>>9377981
>>9378002
>>9378012
>>9378014
>>9378028
honestly go be schizophrenics somewhere else >>>/x/

[Anonymous No.9378040]

>>9378035
t. you

[Anonymous No.9378041]

>>9372810
This is just swamp gas.

[Anonymous No.9378044]

>>9378041
It's a weather balloon.

[Anonymous No.9378052]

>>9378044
its actually, the reflection of mars bouncing off of the weather balloon through swap gas. simple explanation

[Anonymous No.9378109]

>>9374466
Actually it's opinions released by quacks who left the government.

[Anonymous No.9378115]

>>9378028
May I remind you that the UFO videos were released by the Pentagon so obviously it can't be anything they know about. Even if it somehow was there are a number of fatal flaws in your theory
1) Why would they fly experimental black aircraft near their own fighter jets without telling them anything? This is incredibly reckless and could result in the cover of the project being blown or worse a mid-air collision with the fighters. For what purpose.
2) If it was their own black craft you'd be damn sure they wouldn't have released those videos
Look at the second video
https://youtu.be/rsixevtYth4
Not even a Saturn V could accelerate that fast. C'mon get your head out of the sand.

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[Anonymous No.9378117]

>>9377077
>of a craft
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.9378123]

>>9378109
>opinions
The navy confirmed everything they said bro. The incident really happened exactly as these "quacks" described and the footage is genuine. All things that the fleet commander at the time has gone on record to say. Their fallout with the Pentagon isn't about whether UFOs are real or not but simply that they weren't spending enough time studying it.

[Anonymous No.9378126]

>>9377096
It turns out that the government is wasting millions of dollars on fake research by quacks like the idiot who believes in remote viewing. These quacks got so butthurt at failing to find anything that they left the government and started a new sca- I mean started a new "project" and then get a gullible reporter to write a story about them to attract more gullible fools to give them money.

[Anonymous No.9378130]

>>9378117
>visual sighting + heat signature + radar locks from multiple ships and planes
Sounds like a craft to me.

[Anonymous No.9378135]

>>9378126
I love how you have given up on trying to debunk the videos so are now calling the people who publicized it "quacks"

[Anonymous No.9378143]

>people unironically believing this is a real alien encounter
this board is oficially dead

[Anonymous No.9378150]

>>9378123
>The navy confirmed everything they said bro.
No they didn't. If the Navy agreed with the butthurt quacks who left the government to start their own scam, they would still be funded and you would not be hearing a word about this.

>The incident really happened exactly as these "quacks" described and the footage is genuine.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
Having nothing to do with muh craft.

>Their fallout with the Pentagon isn't about whether UFOs are real or not but simply that they weren't spending enough time studying it.
Don't you realize this is is the same thing you utter moron? The Pentagon is the porkiest place in the world. If they had an iota of belief that there was any potential value in researching it, they'd be doing so! Fact is, they don't.

[Anonymous No.9378155]

>>9378143
It's either that, or man-made.

[Anonymous No.9378157]

>>9378155
so a 50-50 chance, right?

[Anonymous No.9378160]

>>9378157
It can't be a weather balloon this time.

[Anonymous No.9378166]

>>9378135
>debunk the videos
There is nothing in the video to debunk you delusional mong.

[Anonymous No.9378170]

>>9378166
So is it real or fake?

[Anonymous No.9378172]

>>9378150
Yes they did, the whole story is on the New York Times complete with interviews of the navy personnel.
They did research it between 2007 and 2012 and spent 22 million on it. You are contradicting yourself. First you say the Pentagon will fund any loon, now you're saying they'll only do so if it's worth investigating.

[Anonymous No.9378176]

>>9378130
>+ heat signature
Nowhere in either story is heat signature mentioned.

[Anonymous No.9378178]

>>9378155
Or it's simply an optical illusion/natural anomaly. You have zero critical thinking.

[Anonymous No.9378179]

>>9378172
schizophrenia is a helluva drug ain't it

[Anonymous No.9378181]

>>9378178
>optical illusion
heat signature + travelling 120 mph against the wind + rotating in mid-air
>natural anomaly
Give me an example of what this could be

[Anonymous No.9378188]

>>9378178
....optical illusion? Over hundreds of miles? On camera?

[Anonymous No.9378189]

>>9378170
Is what real?

>>9378172
Are you actually illiterate or are so desperate that you need to purposefully misinterpret my posts that are written in clear English?

>They did research it between 2007 and 2012 and spent 22 million on it.
This doesn't contradict what I said.

>First you say the Pentagon will fund any loon, now you're saying they'll only do so if it's worth investigating.
No I did not say that. The Pentagon will fund any loon if they think there is a slight chance of valuable info. This is why they are preyed upon by /x/tard "engineers," dumb politicians who want to be special, and military industries that will do anything for government money. The fact that these quacks had their funding shut off is proof that they are too worthless even for the Pentagon.

[Anonymous No.9378193]

>>9378188
It very well could be. You're grasping for straws here.

[Anonymous No.9378197]

>>9378166
look tardmaster here are your options
>the video is fake
Its a Pentagon release
>It's a hallucination
It's on video
>It's a misidentified bird/balloon/Venus/swamp gas
It was tracked on radar
>It was some secret plane
>The guys behind the black projects are the ones asking wtf it is
>It's malfunctioning equipment
Visual + plus multiple ship and plane radars
So the only remaining conclusion is that it's some unknown craft that far exceeds the capabilities of the most advanced nation in the world.

Have you got an actual counterargument for why its really swamp gas or are you just gonna keep screaming "quack!" at me?

[Anonymous No.9378200]

>>9378181
>heat signature
Where?

>>9378188
What the fuck? Distance and cameras would do nothing but increase the chance of an optical illusion.

[Anonymous No.9378206]

>>9378200
It's FLIR, so you can clearly see a heat signature.

[Anonymous No.9378208]

ITT: Paranoid schizos arguing with le reddit skeptics

[Anonymous No.9378209]

>>9378176
Half the video is in IR view.

[Anonymous No.9378215]

>>9378197
>the video is fake
Never said this

>It's a hallucination
Never said this

>It's a misidentified bird/balloon/Venus/swamp gas
>It was tracked on radar
How exactly does radar tracking invalidate this?

>It was some secret plane
>The guys behind the black projects are the ones asking wtf it is
The Pentagon has different levels of clearance, this is not a logical argument. Also, there is no reason not to release this since the video is uninformative. If anything, it would be in the Pentagon's interest to have any information that might get out be associated with quacks and/or cause other countries to speculate they have advanced technology.

>It's malfunctioning equipment
Never said this

>So the only remaining conclusion is that it's some unknown craft that far exceeds the capabilities of the most advanced nation in the world.
False, you're forgetting optical illusion or unknown natural anomaly.

You lose retard.

[Anonymous No.9378219]

>>9378197
Visual + plus?

[Anonymous No.9378226]

>>9378197
>>The guys behind the black projects are the ones asking wtf it is
See, there you go again making a massive jump to a conclusion. The Pentagon is not the only organization in the United States, or on Earth with lots of funding. Obviously tons of special interest groups would have interest in developing various types of experimental aircraft, I don't see why you are skipping the more likely answer to the mystery (the craft was man-made) to the fantastical (aliens). The only reason I can think is because you choose to believe what you want, leading you to make illogical conclusions.

[Anonymous No.9378231]

Why do brainlets think "we do know know what this is" means "we know exactly what this object is and it's aliens"?

So often they try to frame these threads so that the only options are either the video is faked or we need to prove specifically what it's showing or else it MUST be aliens, when really there's absolutely no reason to think it has anything to do with aliens.

Do these people blame everything they don't instantly have an explanation for on aliens? When somebody leaves the toilet seat up when they go to take a dump do they think "I bet the aliens did this!"?

[Anonymous No.9378234]

>>9378200
If it's an optical illusion explain the radar returns. Ghosts and Bigfoot are bullshit because they have never been detected by scientific instruments. Yet you are ignoring IR and radar returns of this object. You don't have a leg to stand on, the object was clearly real, all you can argue is whether it s aliens or not because there's zero proof of that. But there is a ton of scientific proof that the object as seen existed.

[Anonymous No.9378245]

>>9378231
le skeptic xD

[Anonymous No.9378246]

>>9378234
>If it's an optical illusion explain the radar returns.
Are you implying that radar does not have illusions as well? There are many things that can interfere with radar.

The only thing we know is that this "object" is unknown. Not aliens, and not a craft, just unknown.

[Anonymous No.9378251]

>>9378215
>How exactly does radar tracking invalidate this
you can t track a weather balloon at 2000mph heading against
120mph winds because thats impossible. You can't track Venus because it's in space.

I already explained that if this was the Pentagons own plane they wouldnt have flown it near other aircraft. And they wouldnt have released the video.
> cause other countries to speculate they have advanced technology
So you are claiming the government is faking UFO videos? And you're calling me an /x/tard?

[Anonymous No.9378255]

>>9378251
All anyone here is saying is that you're immediately jumping from "this apparent craft is unknown" to "this is a sign of extraterrestrial life". Clearly you can see why that's a completely ridiculous conclusion to come to without further evidence.

[Anonymous No.9378260]

>>9378251
>you can t track a weather balloon at 2000mph
I like how with every post you just make up more shit that isn't in the story.

>I already explained that if this was the Pentagons own plane they wouldnt have flown it near other aircraft.
The Pentagon has done far dumber things than this in the name of testing.

>And they wouldnt have released the video.
I have already explained why they would have released the video.

>So you are claiming the government is faking UFO videos?
So you're illiterate?

[Anonymous No.9378262]

>>9378226
Only the Pentagon has a) the funding to make such a craft b) the permission to fly it in the USA. Who are these "special interest groups"? Nobody else has the money or tech to make such a craft even if it were possible.

Your argument is "it is humans" without any logic to back up your claim. Looks to me that you're the one suffering from "I want to believe syndrome"

[Anonymous No.9378264]

>>9378246
>>9378255
When did I say it was aliens?

[Anonymous No.9378267]

>>9378264
Right here: >>9378197

>So the only remaining conclusion is that it's some unknown craft that far exceeds the capabilities of the most advanced nation in the world.

[Anonymous No.9378274]

>>9378267
That's not saying it's aliens.

[Anonymous No.9378277]

>>9378274
Well in the same post it's argued that it's not a black project, therefore it must be saying aliens. Please enlighten me though about what it's saying if you know better.

[Anonymous No.9378289]

>>9372810
From what I've read of the project it seemed like Reid dumping funds into a business in his state. Pork to a friend's business probably in return for campaign funding. As for the sightings I'd wager most of them can be explained via natural phenomena or black projects.

[Anonymous No.9378291]

>>9378262
>Nobody else has the money or tech to make such a craft even if it were possible.
Lol okay anon. That's totally a valid claim to make with absolutely nothing to support it. It's true just because you say so, I guess. Maybe it is time to take your meds? My argument is that I have no clue what the fuck it was, only that it's much more likely to be something humans made than fucking extraterrestrials. There is absolutely no evidence that this incident points to aliens, not at all. Dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.9378297]

>>9378277
You're the one jumping to conclusions here. I'm saying it's a real UFO. And I define UFO as anything flying around that can't be explained by known science. Who knows? All that we know is it's a UFO. My aim here today is to prove that UFOs arent all misidentifications or illusions but something real and unknown. I think every learned man should at least read up on the cases and make their own conclusion on that before dismissing all UFOs as overactive imaginations. If you want to believe it's aliens then good for you, that was a valid hypothesis when we didn't know what was on Mars and Venus and it is again now that there are FTL solutions to relativity (alcubierre). However it is just that, a hypothesis. Goodnight.

[Anonymous No.9378300]

>>9378289
Yes they are plainly releasing the videos in order to garner interest for their buisiness venture but the videos are legit hence that doesn't absolve you of debunking them.

[Anonymous No.9378308]

>>9378291
theres no evidence that points to humans either.

[Anonymous No.9378310]

>>9378297
>You're the one jumping to conclusions here. I'm saying it's a real UFO.
Then why did you claim that the only conclusion "is that it's some unknown craft that far exceeds the capabilities of the most advanced nation in the world."

And why did you reply to my post saying "The only thing we know is that this "object" is unknown."?

> My aim here today is to prove that UFOs arent all misidentifications or illusions but something real and unknown.
Well you have failed.

>I think every learned man should at least read up on the cases and make their own conclusion
There is nothing to conclude on.

[Sage No.9378317]

>>9378310
He will never get it. I regret wasting time ever trying to get through to that retard. Never again will I bother with a reply to a schizophrenic /x/ thread. Sage in every field.

[Anonymous No.9378634]

>>9377138
Hey man, how old were you at the time? My dad (50 years ago) saw a dot of light going in a line and he asked his father if it was a UFO. his father explained that it was a satellite and that you could tell it was a satellite as it was travelling in a straight line, all of a sudden it made a sudden super quick turn at a right angle. Can any science bros explain what it might have been? It was around 50 years ago if that helps.

[Anonymous No.9378713]

>>9377981
What if this is some kind of alien life based on electroplasma, not necessarily intelligent?

[Anonymous No.9378730]

>>9373303
Because it's more proof /x/ is more empirical than the religious believers in /sci/enticism, where accepted orthodoxy is chosen based on aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.9378746]

>Implying it wasn't just to pay for a couple of the least promising lieutenant to sit in an office somewhere reading bullshit ufo reports from drunken fishermen while the rest of the budget was silently diverted to blackops

[Anonymous No.9378751]

theres a reason they are releasing this right now

i cant say more, but feb/march next year is going to be huge

[Anonymous No.9378755]

>>9377846
t. An ayyy lmao or a black hat spook

[Anonymous No.9378761]

whys it such a short clip?

did they find something cool and just stop recording

[Anonymous No.9378800]

The worst people for an idea aren't the ones that attack it,it's the ones that support it the wrong way. If someone tells you that if we don't stop global warming earth will LITERALLY be Venus in a few years, and you then do 5 minutes of research and think "this person has no idea what they're talking about,maybe global warming is bullshit", then that person's misinfomed or irrational bad advocacy has done the opposite of what it was intended to do. UFOs have this in spades-all kinds of lunatics and frauds infest the field. Look at those awful,ahistorical Ancient Alien faggots,or that sputtering hoaxmonger secureteam. So now that we have a fucking mysterious,genuine video of a strange craft doing astonishing things that actually deserves a hard look,we're left in a situation where the mere idea that aliens might be an option is automatically seen as silly.

I don't know what this video shows. But I will keep my eyes open and see if we get new information.

[Anonymous No.9378872]

>An order came in for him to suspend the exercise and do some "real-world tasking," about 60 miles west of their location, Fravor said. He said he was told by the command that there were some unidentified flying objects descending from 80,000 feet to 20,000 feet and disappearing; he said officials told him that they had been tracking a couple dozen of these objects for a few weeks.

i thought he just stumbled upon it but apparently not

[Anonymous No.9378890]

>>9372810
>Thread is full of Fermi brainlets.

[Anonymous No.9378900]

>>9378800
I know it's a huge shame really. I used to assume UFOs were bullshit until I read about Blue Book etc. The skeptics and the tinfoils are as bad as each other. Tinfoils scream its aliens with zero proof while skeptics scream its swamp gas with zero proof.

[Anonymous No.9378904]

>>9378900
>Blue Book
whats this

[Anonymous No.9378908]

>>9378904
doesnt matter i googled

[Anonymous No.9378909]

>>9378872
this part leads me to think this might have been some drones with plasma shielding technology they were testing and they wanted to see pilots reaction

[Anonymous No.9378921]

>>9378908
Google Jacques Valee and J Allen Hynek while you are at it.
>>9378909
You know the military got burned before from flying secret balloons near their own aircraft. See the 1948 Mantell incident.

[Anonymous No.9378955]

>mfw all the "skeptics" have not provided a single rational explanation for the footage
>mfw the all "skeptics" I have met havent delved into the matter deep enough to participate in a 5 minute discourse
>mfw I befriended my GR/String intro professor and he told me that he believes in the extraterrestrial origin explanation of UFO phenomena,but advised me to keep my mouth shut because 90%+ of "scientists" are morons who are uncapable of deconstructing dogmas/popular opinions of the community

[Anonymous No.9379005]

>>9378955
The last part is almost every normie, posters in sci, and the scientific community itself.

[Anonymous No.9379035]

>When they arrived closer to the point, they saw the object, flying around a patch of whitewater in the ocean beneath.

>"A White Tic-Tac, about the same size as a Hornet, 40-feet long with no wings," Fravor described. "Just hanging close to the water."

>The object created no rotor wash - the visible air turbulence left by the blades of a helicopter - he said, and began to mirror the pilots as they pursued it, before it vanished.

>"As I get closer, as my nose is starting to pull back up, it accelerates and it's gone," he said. "Faster than I'd ever seen anything in my life. We turn around, say let's go see what's in the water and there's nothing. Just blue water."

i hope they investigated under the water

[Anonymous No.9379056]

>>9378955
>mfw he didn't read the thread and then lies about what's in it
>mfw one obviously made up "GR/String intro" professor is his argument to confirm his beliefs, because he thinks scientists can't be quacks like regular people

[Anonymous No.9379081]

>>9374466
We despise major media outlets. They do a lousy job of reporting science news.

[Anonymous No.9379099]

if this was legit and relevant they would NOT release it to the public

its just bs from 10+ year ago

[Anonymous No.9379139]

is that it? are they gonna release tell us more?

[Anonymous No.9379230]

>>9379056
What about the first part of his comment? We are still waiting for your debunk.
>>9379099
You're right that the Pentagon released it because they don't think it's important. That is what the whole story is about, a bunch of disgruntled Pentagon employees pressured them to release the video seeing as they weren't taking it seriously. But that doesn't mean the video isn't important. Pentagon is probably frustrated by the UFO thing because they cant explain it so they can the UFO program and go back to denying they exist. They then get a FOIA request for the videos and oblige because they know the public will just pass it off as more blurry lights and not care.

[Anonymous No.9379309]

if youre interested in this story in more detail, this is worth a read

https://fightersweep.com/1460/x-files-edition/

thats from 5 months ago, so its interesting how they are just releasing the info now

also the video was previously on youtube but had been taken down, "a government agency with a three letter identifier had recently conducted an investigation into the AAVs and had exhaustively interviewed all parties involved."

[Anonymous No.9379311]

>>9372810
>NYT
FAKE NEWS

[Anonymous No.9379411]

>>9379311
So is Breitbart.

[Anonymous No.9379415]

>>9377570
>I thought listening about aliens on Earth was BS until hearing Steven Greer's perspective on the issue
Steven Greer is a pathological liar. 99% of the things that come out of the mouth are either outright lies or shameles exaggeration. Nothing he says can be trusted.

[Anonymous No.9379423]

they probably just spent the money/pocket it themselves and are just using this grainy shit as a coverup and pretending they had some UFO program so no one finds out

[Anonymous No.9379445]

>>9379415
I have yet to see anything explode because of him and all I see is just more attention about Aliens, zero point energy, and discussions. I'd rather have people talk and pay attention about ALL THIS ufo/et phenomenon rather than shit about the Kardashians, Trump, North Korea, etc because this could and absolutely will change the entire world.

[Anonymous No.9379468]

>>9379445
People are sheep-like in this time period. You show them absolute proof of something, they will refuse to believe it. They would rather believe in fiction before they would see it with their very own eyes. And even if they did, it must be a hallucination or a daydream. You tell them any other way, they will close their mouth, eyes, and ears and continue living in fantasy land. I am lost with these people...

[Anonymous No.9379490]

>>9379468
</3 I know it just hurts anon

[Anonymous No.9379493]

>>9378955
I know a professor like that. But he also believes in stuff that has been clearly debunked, so there's that.

[Anonymous No.9379494]

>>9379493
Like what?

[Anonymous No.9379500]

>>9379494
like every ufo sighting report being real
like the miracle of the sun and things like that too
he's as nuts as he is skilled and knowledgeable

[Anonymous No.9379503]

>>9373303
Because it's an insignificant program.
$22 million per year? Wow, that's fucking nothing, NASA spends over twice that per day.

[Anonymous No.9379615]

https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-video-of-u-s-navy-jet-encounter-with-unknown-object.t9333

lense flare

[Anonymous No.9379649]

I change my mind, this won't amount to anything. I watched Tom DeLonge's podcast with Seth Rogan and it is clear that Tom is Batshit. What I now think is happening is that his company got their hands on some UFO videos via FOIA and are making up some zany backstory about alien contact and imminent disclosure. I stand by what I said that the videos are good evidence that there's more to UFOs than misidentification but there won't be any more videos, or "alloys" he's full of shit and will vanish once he gets his money.

I'm done with UFOs, always the same kooky claims, lies and hoaxes, I'm gonna say it's ball lightning and move on.

[Anonymous No.9379702]

>>9379615
>thermal lens flare
That's not how it works.

[Anonymous No.9379769]

>>9378909
You know an operations officer from the Uss Princeton asked him if any of his fighters were armed

They didn’t know what the fuck was going to pop off

[Anonymous No.9380387]

i find it strange how before they let them go investigate, they asked if the jets were armed

then after hearing no, said okay go check out this alien ship that could potentially kill you

[Anonymous No.9380402]

this looks like nonsense. where is the unedited footage?

it's going against the wind? oh really, the wind blows uniformly at all altitudes? how high above the target are you? why don't you have more than a minute or so of footage? it outpaced your plane so where is the footage of it disappearing in a puff of magical light?

ask yourself why aliens would be real. if they are here they have been here underground between the crust and mantle for millions of years, and this is not news worthy until they make overt contact.

[Anonymous No.9380413]

>>9379311
there it is

[Anonymous No.9380490]

4th dimensional object seen is our 3 dimensions. we don't have the ability to truly understand what we are detecting.

[Anonymous No.9380512]

>>9372810

there is no ufo

[Anonymous No.9380549]

>>9373545
found the retard

[Anonymous No.9380564]

>>9378291

there's no valid reason to think it's more likely that crafts displaying capabilities that it is not known that human crafts have are more likely to be human than to be alien.

[Anonymous No.9380619]

>>9380387
I don't think the jets would win the fight even if they were armed.

[Anonymous No.9380669]

CNN just released a story minutes ago.

[Anonymous No.9380688]

>>9379702
The thread on metabunk has numerous examples of thermal lens flare.

[Anonymous No.9380690]

>>9379649
Welcome to reality, brother.

[Anonymous No.9380695]

did I hear something about aliums

[Anonymous No.9381401]

>>9378176
brainlet

[Anonymous No.9381436]

>>9379615
Lens flare produces radar signatures?

[Anonymous No.9381443]

>>9380688
metabunk
>we need to identify this a baloon

They are the other end of the same attitude UFOlogists are, if you try to identify this a baloon you will see a baloon if you try to identify this as an ET you will find ET.

Most likely this is some advanced weapon and they were testing pilots reaction to it.
I don't exclude the possibility that this is some weird natural event that we rarely observe that needs to be studied, maybe even alien life in form of electroplasma, but this would be remote possibility

[Anonymous No.9381451]

>>9380402
UFO doesn't mean aliens necessarily

[Anonymous No.9381454]

>>9381451

[Anonymous No.9381456]

>>9381454

[Anonymous No.9381459]

>>9381456

[Anonymous No.9381460]

>>9381459

[Anonymous No.9381461]

>>9381460

[Anonymous No.9381593]

>>9379615
>>9380688
The retards on that forum are clutching at so many straws that its more likely to actually be aliens.

Lens flare makes absolutely zero sense as a missile cruiser was tracking them on radar and sent the jets to intercept, visual contact was made, and IR footage was recorded.

I'm not saying its aliens, but its not a fucking lens flare.

[Anonymous No.9381614]

>>9381593

The most plausible explanation is that some smart folks are just trying to make up some excuse for millions of tax payer money that are unaccounted for.

It seems ludicrous to me, to presume that some aliens entered and existed our solar system, and came flying inches from earth without being detected worldwide by tons of people.

[Anonymous No.9381623]

Why is it always the US that discovers aliens?

[Anonymous No.9381626]

>>9381623
Because God loves US. :)

[Anonymous No.9381634]

>swamp gas
it was on radar
>lens flare
it was on radar
>sun
it was on radar
>birds
it was on radar
>venus
it was on radar
>mars
it was on radar
>optical illusion
it was on radar
>mirage
it was on radar
>hallucination
it was on radar
>weather balloon
it was on radar

[Anonymous No.9381661]

>>9381634
Nobody cares if it was on radar. Aliens don't exist and they for sure don't visit earth so it wasn't Aliens. Find some real explanation or leave /sci/.

[Anonymous No.9381662]

>>9381661
>real explanation
>/sci/
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.9381665]

>>9381661
Well there are other options than aliens

[Anonymous No.9381676]

>>9381665
Of course, but just becaus it was on radar doesn't mean it's real. There was most likely some malfunction or something and it really was only a reflection of the sun or a bird swarm or shit like that.

[Anonymous No.9381737]

>>9381614
>Can fly across the galaxy
>No stealth mode
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.9381742]

>>9381623
Except they don't. This is the first time the US government has ever released a UFO video. Usually it's the Mexicans or Chileans or whatever but nobody cares because it's the Mexicans/Chileans

[Anonymous No.9381747]

>>9381676
>Five differerent radars malfunctioned at the same time
>For days.
Skeptics are as bad as the tinfoils tbqh.

[Anonymous No.9381757]

>>9373303
Failing NYT
what about her emails?

[Anonymous No.9381768]

If there was any ayys they'd use distant sensing or nano machines to explore the planet.
No intelligent race would send down a craft that could be seen.

[Anonymous No.9381781]

>>9381747
>it's moving in a way unlike any other plane, so it's a fake." (That's what UFOs do)
>At one point, the object changes from black to white, as if from night to day. "I don't know how they go from night to day," said Mr Diego (It's the FLIR switching between visual and IR mode)
> "If the video is not fake, it is likely a kind of optical illusion (Radar tracked)
>Dr Francisco Diego of UCL's Science and Astronomy Department
Skeptics everyone. Notwithstanding claiming a video from the fucking Pentagon is a fake his entire argument is "its fake because it must be fake"

[Anonymous No.9381897]

>>9381768
that's why it could be advanced drones, or some kind of non-sentient mag-plasma life

[Anonymous No.9381953]

>>9381451
Does this report belong to the same incident the video is of?

[Anonymous No.9381963]

>>9373517
end of thread

[Anonymous No.9381965]

>>9372810
>clickbait shit from the (((nytimes)))

pls try to keep posts high quality

[Anonymous No.9382027]

>>9381897
>>9381963
It's aliens.

[Anonymous No.9382064]

>>9381634
Source for this?

[Anonymous No.9382065]

>>9382064
Spoonfeed yourself.

[Anonymous No.9382069]

>>9381436
Jets which produce flare also produce radar signals.

[Anonymous No.9382071]

>>9381443
They have actually solved several UFOs, unlike the quacks. Cry more faggot.

[Anonymous No.9382072]

>>9381593
>Lens flare makes absolutely zero sense as a missile cruiser was tracking them on radar and sent the jets to intercept, visual contact was made, and IR footage was recorded.
This is explained in the thread you didn't even read you fucking liar.

[Anonymous No.9382252]

>>9382071
I don't know why we are arguing this, it's clearly an alien spaceship, it's even saucer shaped.

[Anonymous No.9382323]

>>9377138

I saw something similar. I was smoking in the garden at my ex girlfriends house and I saw this thing that looked like a star and it was descending very very fast like a shooting star but then it was like wtf and it kind of "bounced" by taking a sudden change in direction upwards and about 60 degrees to the left. I've never believed in anything really but I could never explain this. The next day I've told this to my friends mom at their house while we were smoking outside and she said her colleague told her the same story at work that day.

[Anonymous No.9382459]

>>9381634
Lol this

[Anonymous No.9383385]

>>9379035
A reflection of the plane?

[Anonymous No.9383460]

>>9377138
Laser pointer?

[Anonymous No.9383775]

>>9378289
Oh please, 22 million is pocket change in aerospace. Esp to a billionaire like bigelow

[Anonymous No.9383821]

has there been much media coverage of this where you guys are?

we've not really had anything over here

[Anonymous No.9384027]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cboOWFIsWLY

[Anonymous No.9384036]

>>9372810
What kind of aircraft is able to rotate like that without changing direction?

[Anonymous No.9384039]

>>9384027
>been tracking them for 2 weeks prior

what? so it took 2 weeks for them to actually want to see what it was?

[Anonymous No.9384093]

>>9384039
yeh i find this weird

surely if possible ayylmaos came to earth the first thing the government/NASA/whoever would do is get eyes on and determine the threat level. Plus they wouldnt jump to that conclusion anyway, they would probably think its russia or some shit, even more reason to get eyes on ASAP

then asking the pilots if they were flying armed or not, and only after hearing that they werent, letting them get a closer look. Thats odd.

Sounds like they were just testing some new military tech and waned to see what it would be like against actual jets + didnt want it to get destroyed

[Anonymous No.9384169]

>>9384027
This gues not from earth, alright.

[Anonymous No.9384245]

>>9372810
>video of early drone prototype
>lets release it to distract the stupid goys

[Anonymous No.9384337]

>>9384093
Who are "they"? How does it work? AFAIK the blackest thing "they" have is the pulse-detonation engine, that is what is behind the black triangle UFO seen zooming over Texas. Seeing as that leaked whatever is powering the "drone" would have leaked too. Give me an explanation of how this "drone" works and then I'll believe it's not aliens.

[Anonymous No.9384361]

>>9384337
>Give me an explanation
>must be aliens

[Anonymous No.9384710]

>>9384245
>drone can accelerate faster than f-18
Yeah no

[Anonymous No.9384894]

>>9381661

Why? Because you said so?

99% of those UFO bullshit are obviously fake or idiots being idiots but claiming you know the truth with zero solid proof is completely retarded.

You sound like some medieval idiot going "lol Earth is flat" because that's what majority told you.

[Anonymous No.9385035]

>>9384710
>faster
watch the video again

[Anonymous No.9385037]

>>9384036
Can someone please answer this question of mine.

[Anonymous No.9385064]

>>9385037
drones, read the thread.

[Anonymous No.9385138]

>>9385037
aliens, read the thread.

[Anonymous No.9385386]

Gonna leave this one here:
https://youtu.be/NkUTGpegZN0

Video was released a while ago by the Chilean Navy, but didn't have much impact.

[Anonymous No.9386547]

>>9385386
https://www.metabunk.org/explained-chilean-navy-ufo-video-aerodynamic-contrails-flight-ib6830.t8306/
Reality is boring.