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Thoughts on new requirements for graduate school applicants?

How do you respond to such prompts?

Where do you think universities will go in the future with regards to new applicant demands? Lifestyle? Political beliefs? Other?

Source: My application to UC Berkeley's Chemistry PhD program.

>> No.9305986

They want you to say you are black so just tell them you are black.

>> No.9305990

>>9305958
I hope you realize the day commieforbia splits from the united states, your degrees will mean jack shit and wont be recognized in the US proper.

>> No.9306014

>>9305958
>How do you respond to such prompts?

Write about what sparked your passion in your field. The times you worked with fellow students to understand material and grew as a result. How you overcame problems that came up in group projects/labs/research and learned valuable lessons from it. The time your mom forced you to fuck you little brother and carry his child to term. The struggles to support your baby as a single mother in a world where you can't be open about who the father is. Your crippling substance abuse problems and how you finally overcame them. How your black boyfriend's ex constantly calls you up at 2am and tells you that she's going to kill your cracker ass faggot baby tomorrow while they are at the daycare. The difficulties in accepting an Islamic life style and the need to be regularly beaten to show who is boss in the household. The work and discussions you and your professors had that affected and inspired you. How you awakened your inner sexual fluidity and the kinky experiments you had in college.

You know, generic live story stuff.

>> No.9306019

The real answer if you are white or asian is: "Your research focusing on under served populations or related issues of inequality". Trust me, I know these fucks personally. It is more about discriminating against non-SJWs than preventing whites and asians from getting in because there literally might be one black applicant who is qualified and he is going to Harvard.

>> No.9306339
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9306339

>tfw white middle class male but sometimes count as underrepresented because I'm from a shit midwest state

>> No.9306350

>>9306019
> discriminating against non-SJWs
> look at academia, right-wingers are not represented, so they are stupid, checkmate pol

>> No.9306371

>>9305990
t. barely finished high school

>> No.9306382

>>9305958
Just lie about how you helped some nigger after you witnessed him getting an undeserved treatment by other students, it changed your view when that one female TA put some nazi into place or whatever non-verifiable feel good bullshit story they want to hear.

>> No.9306389

>"Please note that the Personal History Statement should not duplicate the Statement of Purpose."
>gives the exact same advice as in the Statement of Purpose
This is expected from the school that's so proud of the course "CS 10. The Beauty and Joy of Computing" having over 50% of female attendees that they gave it its own website.

>> No.9306394

>>9305958
I have a feeling fewer white people will even want to apply to berkely after pulling this bullshit.

>> No.9306413

>>9305958
> How do you respond to such prompts?

Take your application somewhere else. I have never seen anything that ridiculous. I thought this was the stereotype Canada was supposed to be transitioning into.

Any answer to that statement would be totally unverifiable.

>> No.9306415

>>9305986
>this
/thread

>> No.9306420

>>9306413
This. Berkeley ranks highly, but I wouldn't even apply if I saw this. Also probably crowded as shit and my friend that attends right now says there are homeless people all over campus. I dont plan on applying in the first place due to not liking the weather there.

>> No.9306439

> historically underrepresented in higher education

why not groups that are currently underrepresented?

>> No.9306480

They just want their future students to be more conscious over the social issues our society is facing. We need
urgent actions and our researchers can have an impact as huge as our politicians currently have.
People that are ignorant over these massive problems of our society (prejudice based) will just discard Berkeley for this, but that's exactly the point.

>> No.9306496

>>9306480

in other words, they want a politically and philosophically homogeneous student body upon which to impress their beliefs.

if they were concerned about ignorance, they would not as educators reject socially ignorant but otherwise qualified applicants.

>> No.9306507

>>9306480
>People who don't want to go to STEM don't go to STEM
How is that a problem again?

>> No.9306509

Isn't this all bullshit and just a test of patience? I did chemistry undergrad and a lot of the peeps who went on to graduate school got in because of connections through their PI/doing enough ugrad research where they can actually pal around with their PIs at symposiums and shit and talk to profs at other, better schools. They made it sound like te PIs somehow waived this bullshit.

What are you specializing in? Where'd you do your undergrad?

>> No.9306511

holy shit EUfag here, please tell me your picrel is fake OP

>> No.9306513

>>9305990
new-york-california alliance > rest of flyover usa trash

>> No.9306514

>>9306511

real or fake, i wouldn't be surprised either way. it actually is this bad.

>> No.9306561

It's just a technicality that the graduate school requires. Nobody in your department of choice is going to give more than a second of thought to it.

>> No.9306731

>>9306509

I did inorganic. Went to a small uni, but I did good research.

At this point I don't care very much. I have other good applications done. Berkeley is a reach school academically but low on my priority list for places to live.

I am aware that, as a grad student, you get to float over all the SJW shit on campus anywhere you go. I don't know what to write this shit right now and haven't had enough coffee to bullshit it yet.

>> No.9306751

>>9306480
no fucking student regardless of race that is in a major worth a damn (aka pre occupies their time with massive work and studying) gives a flat fuck about social issues. All the world's problems can be blamed solely on liberal arts majors. Hitler was the greatest example of an arts student who blames the "other".

>> No.9306754

>>9305958
Read it carefully, that is a list of permitted topics, not required topics. All that is required is a description of your personal history and how that influenced your decision to pursue a graduate degree.

>> No.9306757

>>9306731

apologize profusely since your presence will hinder the process of reaching maximum diversity and equity.

or if you're not white, kvetch as dramatically as possible over how much discrimination and racism you had to overcome to eventually be in the position of applying to grad school at berkeley

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>>9305958
>americolleges
kek, you can keep your glorified kindergartens

>> No.9307174

>>9305958
>How have you overcome barriers to access higher education
As a latino, I have been oppressed my whole life by white people. Still, white people are fucking retarded so I was one step ahead at all times and alas, now I am applying to grad school. And I promise one thing: I will kill all white people.

>How you have come to understand the barriers faced by others
By communicating with my fellow PoC. White people truly are the worst and deserve to die slow and painful deaths.

>Your academic service to advance equitable access to higher education
At every chance I've had to fuck over white people I've done so. To be sure that no white people succeed so that more of us can succeed.

>Your research focusing on under served populations
I've studied the fastest ways to kill white people. I hope to get your funding to start human trials.

>Your leadership among such groups
I am one of admin of a PoC discord channel. Our goal is to kill white people.

>> No.9307223

>>9307174
that sucks man, you sound like a bay area loser. i'll make sure to promote white and asian guys over any latinos in case one of them ends up being you.

>> No.9307352

>PhD in chemistry working in industry here

Don't go to schools that want you to do that. Not worth it. Berkeley is pretty shit for chemistry grad to be frank. There's no reason to go there anymore unless you want to be a messy slave that knows shit about safety.

>> No.9307368

>>9305958
>the absolute state of berkeley
I'd just say my project is to build a NN that can tell people's race from their resume so they can discriminate against whites while running a "blind recruitment" scheme for double SJW brownie points.

>> No.9307461

>>9307174

full scholarship

>> No.9307485

>>9307461
Thank you my man

>> No.9307497

>>9305958
Don't go to Berkeley. Any school with shitty entry requirements is inevitably going to drop in ranking over time. Berkeley is a decade or two away from being a glorified community college, and the value of your degree is going to suffer as a result.

Of course, being able to write shit on that is pretty useful for NSF bullshit, since cuck reviewers cream their pants over someone writing about helping underprivileged minorities.

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9307498

>be a white lower class straight male
>come from one of the most run down city in your country
>go to one of worst schools in your country
>somehow a upper middle class women from private school is less privileged because of her dark skin

T-thanks

>> No.9307499

>>9307352

Being real though, Berkeley is a well respected school with good research. Not saying this is acceptable but let's not be the Fox without grapes.

>> No.9307503

>>9306382
>pushing their narrative

>> No.9307506

>>9306439
Because leftists hate the white working class

>> No.9307511
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>>9305986
U.C. Berkeley doesn't consider race in their applications

>> No.9307514

>>9307499
This is true, but having a highly ranked program with good research is only possible with good students and good faculty. Their STEM programs are inevitably going to suffer when they choose students to fill in diversity checkboxes rather than picking the ones that are most likely to succeed.

>> No.9307530

>>9307498
Diversity means hunting down and killing every last white man on the planet

>> No.9307545

>>9307514
They don't care, these schools used to be white institutions but now they are controlled by non-whites

>> No.9307546

>>9307497
Maybe, but then Harvard is completely fucked a lot sooner.

>> No.9307551

Will I get in to Ivy League universities easier if I tell them I'm a Muslim? I really am a Muslim.

>> No.9307552
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>>9307498
Here is some data from Harvard. Even though whites get the most athletic scholarships at Harvard and some get alumni admissions from their parents, they are still by far the smartest group. Asians are a distant second. You just have to control for the proportional populations at Harvard for each group to see this. Jews are a very distant third. This basically proves that whites and asians are very discriminated in Harvard admissions, especially whites.

>> No.9307555

>>9307511
hahahahahaha
They aren't allowed to, but they won't allow any audits of their admissions. So they basically say "we don't discriminate, trust us, but fuck off if you want to check".

>> No.9307559
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>>9307551
Probably not. All the data points to admissions in the Ivy League being rigged to let in the most jews possible, and jews hate muslims. You might have luck at a school like Berkeley.

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>>9307552
Here is the proportional data if you want to do the easy check.

>> No.9307570

>>9307552
>>9307561
How does that show that whites are being discriminated against?

>> No.9307586

>>9307570
Seriously? Why are you posting on sci?

>> No.9307621

>>9306389
They don't give such advice, they just say that if you have bad grades you should say why, shewing your perseverance despite obstacles.

http://grad.berkeley.edu/admissions/apply/statement-purpose/

>> No.9307625

>>9307552
How pathetic whites really are, all this happens for decades, but you do nothing.

>> No.9307628

>>9307586
Because I Fucking Love Science™.

>> No.9307637

>>9306014
This. Basically, just start making up stuff. It's impossible to fact check it so there's nothing to worry about.

>> No.9307639

>>9305958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R6dzZdceT4

>> No.9307740

>>9307499
This is false. Every fucking person that came to my facility except for one has been a messy opinionated fuckup.

>> No.9307781

>>9307639
That's quite annoying. How can they tell the white guy wasn't LGBTQAIIF+?

>> No.9307963

>>9307740

Name 3 better schools for chemistry that aren't on the left coast.

I think you're just being salty or are a highschooler.

>> No.9307977

>>9307555
They are allowed to hollistically discriminate through a properly opaque prolicy
It is only strict & open quotas that aren't allowed

Affirmative action will NEVER be banned because of the marxist beliefs of even "conservatives"

>> No.9308039

>>9307625
This is what happens when people embrace the "meritocracy" you get non-whites who operate through explicit racial conciousness taking over.
Decades of whites being dispossessed all over the country, in all institutions or businesses or government, and even today a "racist" is villified

>> No.9308047

>>9308039
It isn't close to a Meritocracy. Jews, Blacks, and Hispanics get preferred admissions. Asians and whites get screwed. The most amazingly lie is pretending jews and whites are one group. Jews don't treat it that way. That is crystal clear. I welcome any fair minded asian (or Indian or whatever) to join our coalition for fair and transparent standards. They have to know that whites are getting screwed the most and, no, you can't consider jews whites in any analysis.

>> No.9308049

>>9307740
Berkeley needs to end this SJW bullshit if it is going to survive. I want it to. It is a fantastic institution with a rich history (the atom bomb and more!). Sadly, it will take both the Federal Government intervening and other UC's changing first. You have to challenge Berkeley's place at the top fo the UC system.

Harvard is honestly beyond saving at this point. It was revealed to basically be a pro-Jew organization and it didn't care. That is its identity.

>> No.9308051

>>9308047
Well, whites will do nothing about it, it is the main problem, whites deserve it for being too weak.

>> No.9308214

>>9306420
I work as a postdoc on Berkeley's campus. There are a lot of students and campus is crowded. There's also homeless who live on or wander onto campus. The weather is actually pretty nice for most of the year. Campus is also directly adjacent to downtown Berkeley so there's always plenty to do.

>> No.9308418

>>9305958
Freedom of Thought is dead.

>> No.9308422

>>9308047
>t. brainlet cries because he couldn't get in to a good school

>> No.9308428

>>9307552
>these percentages prove discrimination

Actually they don't. Your induction is absolute garbage. Take it to /x/ where it belongs, brainlet.

>> No.9308432

>>9307570
It doesn't. He's a fucking retard. Unfortunately, /sci/ is full of them.

>> No.9308435

>>9308039
This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

Seriously, are most of you posting from prison? From public libraries frequented by the homeless? Are you all fucking idiots? Dropouts? Drug abusers?

Why are you on a math and science board if you can't think properly?

Go back to /x/ and /pol/.

>> No.9308786

I just completed a PhD application to ucsb. Same thing. It's probably a new requirement of the California university system.

Ucsb titled it a "statement of personal achievement/contributions" but in the extended description they said they wanted to hear about how I'm the first of my family to go to college, how I had to work long hours to support my siblings while going to college, and or how my research has benefited "underserved segments of society."

It was obvious that my 8 publications and one patent wouldn't count as achievements to them, so I wrote about how I got an MSc in Scotland and learned about higher education and academic culture there. Probably still won't fit the diversity bill bc it's a white country and I should've given my masters scholarship to an underprivileged black youth and spent that year in the Congo apologizing to every black person I met

>> No.9309415

>>9308786
Yeah, the Federal government will have to threaten to cut off funding for this to change. It is obviously unethical. They are basically saying if you aren't a SJW you don't deserve to study Chemistry. Cut off their funding until they change! It is the only way!

>> No.9309562

Whats with American colleges requiring your life story to get accepted? In Europe all you need is to meet the basic score qualifications for the respective exam and you're all but guaranteed to get in.

>> No.9309663

>>9309562
Democrats.