/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9300962]

What's the most brainlet STEM major?

[Anonymous No.9300978]

>>9300962
The one that you study.

[Anonymous No.9300981]

>>9300962
Industrial engineering comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.9300982]

programming

[Anonymous No.9300987]

Civil or industrial..
In all seriousness either EE or Aerospace.

[Anonymous No.9300988]

>>9300962
Sociology

[Anonymous No.9300994]

CS of course
any person of average intelligence can get into it

[Anonymous No.9301022]

>>9300962
Medical school.

[Anonymous No.9301039]

>>9300981
It's funny because although the subject material is pretty easy industrial is by large considered the most prestigious field of engineering in my country. People think EE and mech guys are the real brainlets here.

[Anonymous No.9301044]

>>9301039
EE takes actual math to understand though. you can't say that about mech or industrial. you could give a kid a copy of solidworks and he'll probably replace all the PhDlets here in like 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.9301071]

>>9300962
Is IT considered STEM?
If so IT people that do repair and shit
If not, math or civil engineering.

[Anonymous No.9301093]

>>9301044
IE should just be renamed middle management engineering already.

[Anonymous No.9301113]

>>9301071
is IT considered a major?
>math
literally the highest average iq major

[Anonymous No.9301115]

>>9301113
Not true, math undergrad is easy.

[Anonymous No.9301119]

>>9301115
so is any other undergrad, and even if it wasn't the hardest, it doesn't change the fact that math majors have the highest average IQ. Did you fail logic 101?

[Anonymous No.9301688]

>>9300962
Did you meant STEAM, OP? In that case, it's Art.

[Anonymous No.9301691]

>>9300962
Pure Math. Only a brainlet would sign up to flip burgers for a living.

[Anonymous No.9301696]

>>9300988
This. Little to no effort needed.

[Anonymous No.9301792]

>>9301115
American who took calculus as a post-doc detected

[Anonymous No.9301798]

>>9301688

mfw you are too brainlet to learn to draw a human body. Art is the highest tier

[Anonymous No.9301811]

>>9300962
physics

[Anonymous No.9301884]

>>9300988
Is sociology stem, though?

[Anonymous No.9301907]

>>9300978
fpbp

[Anonymous No.9301910]

>>9300962
pharmacology

[Anonymous No.9301958]

>>9300987
>>9300981
>>9301044

Operations Research is part of Industrial Engineering, and you use way more math than as a EE (Topology, algebraic geometry, game theory). EE is mostly focused on physics (electromagnetism) and IE is mostly focused on math. Both degrees have brainlet and non-brailet subfields:

*Brainlet:
- EE: Power, Instrumentation, Control
- IE: Ergonomics, logistics, data science, machine learning

* Non-Brainlet:
- EE: Signal processing, Telecommunications,
- IE: Operations Research, Statistics, Process

Source: Majored in both. I'm part of my uni's OR group.

[Anonymous No.9301964]

>>9301958
I fucked up, It should be statistics(data science, ml) in non-brailet, and finance in brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9301976]

>>9300987
>>9301039
>>9301044
>>9301958
What the fuck?
EE is not brainlet, what-so-fucking-ever.
You're just mad because I'm actually able to find a well paying job, whilst you're stuck flipping burgers you fucking pseuds.
>Anon: EE IS SO BRAINLET!
>Manager: Another 10 Big Macs, Anon.
>Anon: Y-yes, s-sir!
Whereas:
>EE Anon: I love having a nice house and loving family.
>Manager (also me): I'd best get some work done, but I might go to lunch first.
>*drives to McDonalds to bully Anon*
>EE Anon: 10 Big Macs then faggot, hurry up, I've got money to make and bots to break.
>*roars off in my Porsche, leaving Anon choking on my exhaust fumes*

[Anonymous No.9301983]

>>9301976

Learn to write, retard.

[Anonymous No.9301987]

>>9301976
>10 Big Macs
>roars off in Porsche
Sure you didn't break that Porsche, anon?

[Anonymous No.9301991]

>>9301983
>Mad about grammatical structuralism, because he can't make enough money to move out of his trailer home.
Oh, anon.
*pat*

>>9301987
I made him cook them, but left before taking them, I paid because money isn't an issue (as I actually have a good job).

[Anonymous No.9301993]

>>9301115
>math undergrad is easy
Compared to other undergrads, it is hard as fuck.
Most brainlets in other STEM fields wouldn't be able to make it.

[Anonymous No.9302002]

>>9301976


EEs are just glorified technician. You can't compare them to Physics or Math majors.

[Anonymous No.9302006]

>>9302002
I went from double major BSc physics and mathematics to PhD EE.
Y'all just got into EE at the wrong time.
*flex*

[Anonymous No.9302008]

>>9302006

Sure buddy

[Anonymous No.9302010]

>>9302008
Stay mad.

[Anonymous No.9302020]

biology

[Anonymous No.9302023]

Pure and Applied Math

[Anonymous No.9302050]

>>9301910
P-proof?

[Anonymous No.9302120]

>>9302050
>literally the stamp collecting "science"

[Anonymous No.9302132]

>>9301113
>>math
>literally the highest average iq major
>>9301119
>math majors have the highest average IQ. Did you fail logic 101?
Also the highest incidence of social retardation and isolation.

[Anonymous No.9302156]

>>9301119
>>9301113

math brainlets BTFO

[Anonymous No.9302173]

>>9302156
>Philosophy ranked third
>Arts and humanities ranked above CE, IE, and Biology
Just goes to show how fucking arbitrary an IQ score is. It allows people to flex nuts when they have no nuts to flex.

[Anonymous No.9302176]

>>9301964
Are you saying quant. finance is brainlet?

[Anonymous No.9302183]

>>9302156
>le IQ maymay
You wanted to say: "IQ retards BTFO"

[Anonymous No.9302465]

>>9301958
>control
>brainlet
spotted the brainlet subhuman

[Anonymous No.9302492]

>>9301958
How about RF or photonics? Brainlet tier or no?

[Anonymous No.9302513]

>>9302002

[Anonymous No.9302548]

>>9302513

he is right tho

[Anonymous No.9302633]

>>9302156
>economics

BHAHAHAHAHAHAhaahah

[Anonymous No.9302655]

not counting psychology, any non molecular based biology

[Anonymous No.9302753]

CS

t. CS major

[Anonymous No.9302844]

>>9302156
So biology is the most brainlet STEM major.

[Anonymous No.9302850]

>>9301991
>grammatical structuralism

[Anonymous No.9303446]

>>9302844
I feel like that's only if true if you decide brainlet major by number of brainlets in it. Lots of bio students are "pre-med" and don't have any appreciation for any aspect of STEM. They pass their classes because curves make their 40-50 exam average a 70 and they go "lol Cs get degrees!"

it's awful

[Anonymous No.9303456]

>>9303446
Actually, I might have to amend that argument because I just realized that chart is GRE scores, and med students do MCAT. And, I'm not sure how many of them go into a bio masters as a fallback.

Although, it also occurs to me that Bio is a lot less mathematical at the undergrad level, so typically these students are well out of practice when they take the GRE. Meanwhile, math and physics, and even chem students are flexing their quant muscles on a fairly regular basis.

I do kinda wish bio classes in undergrad would be more math-based.

[Anonymous No.9303914]

>>9302492
Definitely not brainlet

[Anonymous No.9303945]

>>9302156
>tfw MechE is slightly higher than EE

[Anonymous No.9303947]

>>9302548

[Anonymous No.9303988]

>>9302156
>Psychology below sociology
I guess if you realize you're too retarded to do psychology math and change to sociology because it has less math, then sure? Bit ironic though.

>>9300962
General and/or Mechanical Engineering. Pretty much the Psychology of people who want to use math in a job.

[Anonymous No.9303996]

>>9302156
>Religion that high
Wtf I love god now!

[Anonymous No.9304013]

>>9300962

[Anonymous No.9304065]

>>9304013

>Pick retarded theoretical specialization
>No business applications whatsoever for what you worked so hard for

It's always fun to see another math/physics tard mad because they got cucked by computer scientist as soon as they started working.

[Anonymous No.9304153]

>>9303988
>mech eng
>psycology for people who want math as a job.
You have no clue what Mechs even do do you?

[Anonymous No.9304312]

>>9303996
I know there are statistics saying that religious people have a lower IQ on average than non-religious ones. But that's for the whole world and skewed by the fact that almost everyone in meme countries like Pakistan, Yemen, Oman, Kenia, ... consider themselves religious.

I've been a member of 3 Christian student groups in three different cities in Northern Europe and the people I have met there appeared to be exceptionally smart on average. People doing two studies at once with ease, many medicine phd students who were apparently doing well in their studies and still able to do a ton of other things in their lives, a professor in theoretical physics who is teaching at a quite good university now, etc..
It's not uncommon for known physicists (that give interviews, write books, etc. Doesn't mean they have to be the best ones though) to be Christian, at least in my country.

So I think at least in Northern Europe, there is a positive correlation between IQ and whether a person considers himself to be Christian.

[Anonymous No.9304326]

>>9304312
Just wanted to add, you know how people often say that people who have a talent in / like math often have a talent in / like music? That's because similar brain regions are involved.

I think it's the same with Religion, Philosophy and Physics. We are by far not talking about perfect correlations here, but they are well above 0

[Anonymous No.9304330]

>>9301958
Telecom engineering is total brainlet shit though.

[Anonymous No.9304399]

>>9303446
>pre med types

>Cs get degrees types

You can only choose one anon.

[Anonymous No.9304448]

>>9304312
I am from Pakistan. It's not a meme country.

[Anonymous No.9304532]

>>9304448
pakistan is a fucking joke you goatfucking faggot

[Anonymous No.9304543]

>>9301976
t. 2.0 gpa electrical engineer

[Anonymous No.9304553]

>>9304312
European christians are by far MUCH MUCH MUCH more intelligent than say Latino or American christians who have an extreme anti-intellectual culture attached to them.

[Anonymous No.9304597]

>>9304553
I don't know anything about European Christians, but...

US has Pat Robertson, and that he enjoys any popularity at all speaks volumes about how intelligent some of our Christians are. So, yeah, I think your diagnosis is probably right.

Regarding this phenomenon about Smart Christians, I will say I've heard of (but have since lost my links to) studies that suggest people with exceptionally strong memory sometimes fall into Superstitious beliefs, merely because they begin see patterns where there are none. I wonder if it has any merit.

[Anonymous No.9304605]

>>9304399
You misunderstand. When I say "Pre-med" I don't mean actual students who actually have a hope to make it into medical school. You can actually be smart and be a doctor, and these students frequently have at least some appreciation for the science.

I'm clearly talking about the people who daydream about having money. They say "Yeah I'm gonna be a doctor one day!" and complain about Organic Chemistry and then they don't go anywhere when they graduate.

[Anonymous No.9304642]

Biology, specifically stuff like zoology.
The smaller you get, the more intelligent people you'll find.

[Anonymous No.9304645]

>>9304642
I mean in the field of biology of course, not STEM as a whole.

[Anonymous No.9304646]

at my undergraduate institute, all the Aerospace kids were fucking retarded.
They needed physical science classes to graduate and they all flooded optics and astrophysics. most of the time they got out with a C or D. those classes were retardedly easy.
engineers are dumb as shit as a rule.

if there is a smart one somewhere, i didn't see them.

[Anonymous No.9304917]

>>9301884
Sociology is the scientific study of society. Scientific = Science = S

[Anonymous No.9305085]

>>9301958
>IE
>Algebraic Geometry

Ok big boy time for your nappy

[Anonymous No.9305114]

>>9304642
fractal geometry, complexity, systems, network theory, PDE's, serious philosophy, mereology, cybernetics, hierarchy theory, and many more difficult for brainlet things are used in ecology and are only becoming more prevalent and sophisticated in practice.
im sick of you know nothings shitting on a field that is easily on par with genetics and bioinformatics

[Anonymous No.9305116]

>>9302156
>engineering-mechanical lower than engineering-other, albeit only slightly
The fuck is this shit

[Anonymous No.9305324]

>>9304013
There are no "Genetic Engineering" degrees and nor is it even a field. Nearly anyone who has worked in a molecular biology lab has performed genetic engineering at some point, although it's not really a term that's used outside of popsci and the media.

Also you list "Applied Science" apparently without realising that all engineering is applied science.

[Anonymous No.9305326]

>>9305324
I'm pretty sure he refers to the actual major.

[Anonymous No.9305336]

>>9301958
>IE
>AG and topology
hahahaha holy shit

[Anonymous No.9305350]

>>9302156
>Home Economics

Is that really a thing in burgerland? You can actually get a fucking degree in being a regular citizen?

[Anonymous No.9305369]

>>9304153
I meant that in the way of people who aren't mathematically inclined choose psychology as a major and those who do know math better choose Engineering as a major. They're just the "I need to choose a major, guess I'll go with XXX to make money" when it's the same general choice everyone else in their position makes.

[Anonymous No.9305379]

>>9300987
wait why is aerospace brainlet

[Anonymous No.9305389]

>>9305379
pls respond

[Anonymous No.9305392]

>>9301884
>>9300988
>>9304917
Sociology is Liberal Arts, not STEM

[Anonymous No.9305419]

>>9305392
Liberal arts are STEM.

>STEMgrad with his head exploding.jpg

[Anonymous No.9305450]

>>9304532
>pakistan is a fucking joke you goatfucking faggot
Why the homophobia?

[Anonymous No.9305498]

>>9304532
why the prejudice towards muslims?

[Anonymous No.9305542]

>>9305498
It's postjudice

[Anonymous No.9305555]

>>9305542
Wow, you've personally met a representative sample of muslims from around the world? That's great dedication to travel and independent investigation of truth, anon! Go you!

[Anonymous No.9305564]

>>9305555
go be a passive-aggressive twat somewhere else; there are no hivemind upboats to be had here

[Anonymous No.9305567]

>>9305564
Are you saying you haven't met a representative sample? I guess that means it was prejudice after all!

[Anonymous No.9305597]

Molecular biology, maybe even biochemistry.
Basically anything biology, as an first year ME major it all looks stupidly easy

[Anonymous No.9305617]

>>9305379
It's bait, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.9305622]

>>9305379
>MUH REYNOLD'S
>MUH ANGLE OF ATTACK
>MUH C_L
>MUH BERNOULLI'S

Aerospace engineering in a nutshell.

t. aero/mech major

[Anonymous No.9306451]

>>9305567
>r*dd*t

[Anonymous No.9306553]

>>9300982
System.out.println("DELET THIS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT");

[Anonymous No.9306556]

>>9302156
>le IQ meme XD

[Anonymous No.9306562]

>>9300962

Polytechnic

[Anonymous No.9306766]

>>9305085
>>9305336

What's so funny, undergrad samefags? You will learn them if you follow the Operations Research path, half my teammates in the group are mathematicians. I may have to add that i'm russian, we learn way, way more than american undergraduates. It wouldn't surprise me that american OR students only learn shitty calculus for optimization.

[Anonymous No.9307027]

>>9305597
you should go and cure alzheimer's, cancer and aging anon. you will get lots of money with the smart ME brain of yours

[Anonymous No.9307047]

>>9307027
Lol butthurt biobrainlet detected.

You know what? I visited one of your shitty labs at the bio department at my uni, and everything seemed so elementary.

Maybe if you actually did move away from your narrow focus and approached problems from an engineer's point of view you'd actually get shit done. But let's face the truth: that would actually require thinking and using math and getting shit done, which you biobrainlets are incapable of doing.

[Anonymous No.9307049]

>>9300962
Probably the lack of body stem cells.

[Anonymous No.9307069]

>>9305114
>fractal geometry, complexity, systems, network theory, PDE's, serious philosophy, mereology, cybernetics, hierarchy theory,
biologists literally learn none of those subjects which is why applied mathematicians are starting to step in with their new-fangled "mathematical biology"

[Anonymous No.9307115]

>>9307047
you are so smart

[Anonymous No.9307123]

>>9307115
ok buddy keep on being sarcastic.
just keep in mind one thing: without us engineers, you all would be nothing.
we design everything you use for your shitty "research" so without us engineers you scientists WOULD BE NOTHING

[Anonymous No.9307128]

>>9302156
I refuse to believe in this because I am physics and I dont IQ that far.

[Anonymous No.9307131]

>>9307123
Woooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww!!

Thank you for all your contributions to medicine!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.9307347]

>>9307123
>us engineers
t. 1st year undergrad

[Anonymous No.9307475]

>>9305597

ME is normie tier.

[Anonymous No.9307531]

>>9301039
spain?

[Anonymous No.9307652]

>>9307069
are you an undergrad or something?
you do get that an applied mathematician working in biology is still biology, right?

[Anonymous No.9307680]

>>9307069
here is a single graduate level text for students of ecology that teaches or at least introduces most of those
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/book/9780128020319

[Anonymous No.9308141]

>>9304013
where would architectural engineering fall in this list?

[Anonymous No.9308391]

>>9306553
Java, brainless found.

[Anonymous No.9308427]

>>9300962
aerospace. it's generally considered an elite engineering degree in canada.

[Anonymous No.9308743]

>>9301884
Sociologists consider themselves scientists, somehow.

[Anonymous No.9309340]

>>9302020
this

[Anonymous No.9309445]

I'm in EE and I want to switch into Aero

[Anonymous No.9309451]

>>9300962

Biology imo. While you CAN do really cool stuff in biochemistry there are also the people who just want to do something with animals.

[Anonymous No.9309456]

I do Psychology .... but it's with Neuroscience ^ ^

[Anonymous No.9309460]

>>9309456
Fucking read the post nooblet

[Anonymous No.9309466]

God damn it feels good being master race.

I seriously pity everyone not studying physics. Shit like ME,EE,Aero, chemistry etc. just seems like shitty watered down physics / upper div QM (in the case of chemistry) courses to me.

Cheerio, brainlets.

[Anonymous No.9310150]

>>9301044
You do know that mechanical engineering is more than just CAD right?

[Anonymous No.9310432]

>>9300962
cs without a doubt.

[Anonymous No.9310442]

>>9301991
cringe.com

[Anonymous No.9310448]

>>9309466
>b-but muh pure science is the best
Good luck actually doing something applicable with your obscure gay particles, nerd

[Anonymous No.9310452]

Civil, Telecom and Biology

[Anonymous No.9310761]

>>9307047
>fucking freshman undergrad thinking he knows jack shit about anything

[Anonymous No.9310792]

>>9310432
>most autistic

[Anonymous No.9310796]

>>9306553
>Java
I'm sorry

[Anonymous No.9310797]

>>9300962
Engineering Management

[Anonymous No.9310803]

>>9302156
>Business
>112
Fucking knew it

[Anonymous No.9310867]

>>9309466
why are physics students so bro-tier

t.math student

[Anonymous No.9310869]

>>9309466
This is sort of the way I feel going into a materials science degree. My biggest deterrent from physics was the job prospects, but now I see it's basically all the same shit but just a little different

[Anonymous No.9310984]

>>9304532
>who is Abdus Salam

[Anonymous No.9311013]

>>9308391
>>9310796
Intro to programming here. What's wrong with Java? Is it just the fact that it's for beginners?

[Anonymous No.9311034]

>>9311013
No pointers, oop, and garbage collection come to mind. Not the worst thing in the world for specific purposes, but in some sense it's not "real" programming. You should at least learn c alongside an algo book if you want to start getting serious. And Java's not necessarily for beginners, it's just designed for shitty wageslave programmers.

[Anonymous No.9311051]

>>9302173
How many philosophy courses did you fail during undergrad, brainlet?

[Anonymous No.9311060]

>>9301976
Nice bait

[Anonymous No.9312444]

>>9301958
>DSP
>not brainlet
DSP outside of theory is just using a GUI to spit out a filter. I don't care how hard convolution or Fourier stuff was to grasp for your weak mind. No thought whatsoever in practice. An algorithm some oldfag designed long ago does it all. Telecomm is not far behind. But Control theory IS engineering.

[Anonymous No.9312448]

>>9306553
>System.out.println

Absolutely disgusting.

[Miniature Spacecraft No.9312495]

>>9300962

Without a doubt, math. Math is just math.

The hardest STEM major is biology because there is no math in biology.

[Anonymous No.9312760]

>>9306553
too bad you forgot your class declaration and main method Java brainlet

[Anonymous No.9312799]

>>9302156
While obv bullshit and propaganda, feels gud mang that I was a Physics major from a top uni

But I barely did it. Fuck those ppl are pure autismo. I am prob on the spectrum but shit these ppl are a league above.

[Anonymous No.9312887]

>>9310150
filthy lies

[Anonymous No.9313030]

>>9312495

[Anonymous No.9313033]

>>9309466
>tfw went EE instead of physics to avoid the PGRE (poor)
>tfw after EE PhD I will get my physics job the easy way and be an engineer and scientist

[Anonymous No.9313113]

>>9306553
Stfu Javafag

[Anonymous No.9313125]

>>9301044
Fluid Dynamics, Heat Transfer and Dynamics of Rigid Bodies deal with more math than electromagnetism or muh transmission lines.

[Anonymous No.9313317]

>>9303456
This

[Anonymous No.9313355]

>>9306553
It's fine for basic stuff and does a great job introducing people to oo programming , but the moment you try something like C# you realize how much you have been missing out. pointers and extended type methods already blew my mind coming from Java, but I´m still learning when it comes to C# so I´m probably missing things. also loop optimization is great
on top of all of this your competition if you program in Java will be 3$/hour Pajeets

[Anonymous No.9313359]

>>9313355
meant for
>>9311013

[Anonymous No.9313369]

>>9313033
this

After the EE Msc I will do an Msc in Physics because I find it way more interesting than EE.

[Anonymous No.9313462]

>>9300962
The one which has women

[Anonymous No.9313526]

>>9313462
There should be universities that only teach/give degrees in mathematics, computer science, engineering and the stuff in between.

[Anonymous No.9313527]

>>9302020
Yeah, just tons of memorization, hs math and standard research practice.

[Anonymous No.9315154]

>>9313526
I would say there is but I wouldn't be surprised if even the most prestigious tech schools offer non STEM degrees just because

[Anonymous No.9315160]

>>9312444
there's a lot more to DSP than using LabView

[Anonymous No.9315278]

>>9304013
w-what if i'm CS&E

[Anonymous No.9315310]

>>9311034
Rollan

[Anonymous No.9315415]

>>9300981
/thread

[Anonymous No.9315418]

>>9306553
kys yourself

[Anonymous No.9315696]

>>9315278
Then you're technically a computer engineer

[Anonymous No.9315912]

>>9313462
>the more women there are the lower the IQ is
Hmm...

[Anonymous No.9316012]

>>9300981
i was going to say biology but yeah that takes the cake.

[Anonymous No.9316033]

>>9316012

Fluid mechanics, thermodynamics, production planning, numerical analysis, static and resistance of materials are all harder than biology classes. Also biology is a women's field

[Anonymous No.9316604]

>>9302156
> Physics and astronomy ranked highest IQ
> mfw

[Anonymous No.9316607]

>>9302156
>estimated from average GRE

[Anonymous No.9316739]

>>9303988
>Sociology has less math
What the fuck am I reading

Also, consider Psi is a fairly popular degree, meaning a bigger percentage of undergrads having no idea what the're doing with their lives

[Anonymous No.9316867]

>>9300994
You obviously don't know what "computer science" is. Otherwise, you'd not say that bullshit. Well, virtually this whole thread is full of ignorants that doesn't knows a single shit about the things they are talking about.

[Anonymous No.9318337]

>>9309466
>it's a "retarded physics-fag thinks chemistry is just physics"-episode
it's not just stamp collecting either, the problem in chemistry is that most problems can't be solved by transforming them into mathematical equations like in physics

[Anonymous No.9318528]

>>9310448
>using the word 'nerd' as an insult
>on /sci/

[Anonymous No.9318546]

>>9318528
>being a fucking nerd
This is a chad STEM board, keep moving

[Anonymous No.9318551]

>>9301976
He probably spat on your burgers anyway...

[Anonymous No.9318673]

>>9310150
They also get real engineers their coffee.

[Anonymous No.9318737]

>>9302156
thats only because of all the jews pushing to get more women into math specifically, brings the fucking bar straight down

[Anonymous No.9319079]

>>9318546
Fuck off, retard.

[Anonymous No.9319085]

>>9316867
Found the brainlet

[Anonymous No.9319093]

It triggers me so hard when you faggots talk about majors.

Literally all you faggots have to base you facts around is gossip from freshmen 2 semesters from dropping out and the literal names of the majors. How do you actually talk shit about something you've never majored in?

There is no easy major unless your school is easy. Professors will change the difficulty of courses based on the average performance. If you did calculus 3 and it felt like a breeze, it probably means your school attracts retards and you're just competing against retards. No scientific field is small enough for a dumbass undergrad to feel like his ''intellect'' is being held back, profs can fuck your shit up if they really want to.

[Anonymous No.9319111]

>>9301044

General EE mostly covers how to use specific software, much like ME would cover CAD. However, EE majors rarely write their own software as they can get by with minor knowledge of how the software works "under the hood." Unlike EE, some ME majors make their own software and build robots, cars, complex thermal and electrical systems like nuclear reactors, etc. EE is definitely a brainless STEM major in comparison to ME.

[Anonymous No.9319121]

>>9300981
Any other engineer will make something neat but it will either be overly complex, built like shit, or expensive as fuck. An industrial engineer will come along and make sure all three of those things don't happen to your precious little product slated for mass production.

[Anonymous No.9319126]

>>9319111
>some ME majors make their own software and build robots, cars, complex thermal and electrical systems like nuclear reactors
Almost had me before this utterly wrong statement. MEs don't make software and don't do any electrical work other than some basic circuits.

[Anonymous No.9319153]

>>9319126

CATIA, Autodesk, SolidWorks, Mastercam, and LabVIEW are just a few examples of software developed by ME innovators or their direct founders. Clearly, you've never looked up any robotics programs, as LabVIEW is a major component in the dynamics and systems controls of machines. Clearly not "basic circuits."

What of EE? You can focus on one thing, say computer engineering, then you have your software development. But then they lack expertise in everything else. EE is too focused. ME is broad.

[Anonymous No.9319174]

>>9319153
Your post implies that ME majors develop that software themselves. They don't. Hell, a lot of that software an ME student might not ever use.

[Anonymous No.9319186]

>>9319093

same. this board and /g/ feel like endless summer. a steady churn of freshmen shittalking and garbage content from the anxieties and insecurities of image board dwellers

[Anonymous No.9319190]

>>9319174

You seem to be confused. I never said that ME majors could develop software themselves, but that they do innovate and delve into software development. Certainly software and computer engineers are suited for that, but they don't tend to understand anything else but the programming. ME majors have to have a broad understanding and skill set to combine the physics and mechanics of systems with programming to design such systems. Anyone can just take a few remedial programming courses to be a computer engineering, or a few software architecture classes to be a developer. It's not that hard at all.

[Anonymous No.9319192]

>>9306553

letters = [char for char in 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ']
out=[]
for each in [3,4,11,4,19,4,26,13,14,22,26,5,0,6,6,14,19]:
out.append(letters[each])
print ''.join(out)

->delete now faggot


[Anonymous No.9319197]

>>9311034

>Vigenère cipher (babby's first cryptography) is medium
>all this crazy shit I've never seen before is also medium or even easy

what?

You can implement a Vigenère cipher in, like, a dozen lines of Python.

[Anonymous No.9319208]

>>9319192

The use of
>letters = [char for char in 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ']
instead of simply
>letters = 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz '
triggers me even though I know the code is meant to be needlessly complicated.

I might be autistic.

[Anonymous No.9319221]

>>9319208
>letters = [char for char in 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ']
this creates a list-type object. its contents would be ['a','b','c',...]
>letters = 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz '
this is just a simple string
yes, it was meant to be needlessly complex

[Anonymous No.9319224]

>>9319197
>You can implement a Vigenère cipher in, like, a dozen lines of Python
ive actually already done this out of boredom before

[Anonymous No.9319243]

>>9305392
STEM: Science, Technology, Engineering, Maths.

Maths is applied philosophy.
Sociology stems from philosophy.
Therefore sociology is STEM.
Btfo brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9319248]

>>9319243
>human stems from monkey
>therefore human is monkey
humans BTFO

[Anonymous No.9319254]

>>9319085
This people seems that doesn't knows what computer science is, nor what maths are, nor what physics are, nor what X is. Ridiculous thread, full of brainlets that are talking about things they can't understand.

[Anonymous No.9319257]

>>9319221

Oh I know. I'm just saying, indexing into it has the same effect either way. The funny thing is, I've seen people do stuff like that, and I've done it myself (when I was a beginner of course). That's probably why it pisses me off. I find myself really nitpicking people's code at work when I see them making the same (usually very minor) mistakes I've made, and it probably makes me look like a dick.

[Anonymous No.9319260]

>>9319254

>This people seems that doesn't knows...
>Ridiculous thread, full of brainlets that are talking about things they can't understand.

Yeah. Like your train wreck of sentence structure.

[Anonymous No.9319267]

>>9319254
>Ridiculous thread, full of brainlets that are talking about things they can't understand.
here is something you cant understand
how I can just
kill a man

[Anonymous No.9319270]

>>9319243

While I will agree sociology is scientific field, it's far down the ladder in purity of applied science than you lead it to suggest. Sociology is a subset of biology, which is a subset of chemistry, which is a subset of physics, which is a subset of mathematics, which is a subset of philosophy. Consider it a protozoa in the grand scheme of general science.

[Anonymous No.9319288]

>>9319190
ME people can't develop such complex pieces of software you've mentioned. Also, you clearly are very confused about what CE, CS and programming are and how they works. See, just take a little look at the Linux source code repository or documentation files, and there you'll know what is to be a real computer engineer.

[Anonymous No.9319295]

>>9319260
Please, correct me, because I'm still learning english. Please, be sweet with me.

[Anonymous No.9319312]

>Ctrl+F
>"geology"
>Phrase not found

Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.9319316]

>>9319288

EE can't develop most useful softwares that make engineering on the whole useful to society. You can have a top tier software developer, but without the input from others disciplines like ME, BME, CE, or others, they can't do much else.

Are you saying that CE, CS, and programming are not subsets or minor branches of EE? I suppose then I'm wrong. EE is more useless than I thought. As an aside, I do often work with source code on linux clusters to make radiation transport programs. I grantee you, it would probably take a programmer or developer a lot longer to learn the physics to understand what they are doing than it did for me to learn any human-readable programming language.

[Anonymous No.9319318]

geology

[Anonymous No.9319324]

>>9319316
>>9319190
>>9319153
>ME bragging about using LabView
lol, dude you seem really confused though

[Anonymous No.9319329]

>>9319295

Since you asked so nicely...

"These people seem to not know," if you want to sound relaxed with your statement.

"These people don't seem to know," if you want to sound more assertive.

[Anonymous No.9319332]

>>9319324

In what sense?

[Anonymous No.9319377]

>>9319316
Yes, to understand programming languages and the core concepts of programming is not a hard task. What is actually hard is to understand the concepts/fields of CS required in the development of certain pieces of software, and the programming process itself (actually, here's where most of the hardness of programming comes from).

I mean: a ME can understand the basic idea of programming and be able to read code, but in no way that person would be able to understand the whole architecture of a complex piece of software, nor how a kernel/compiler/virtual machine/machine learning system/3D design software/etc works in a detailed manner, because these are very deep and hard CS fields that, almost all of them, requires hard maths as well.

As another example, think in a physics engine for a videogame. Yes, that ME person may know a lot of physics and maths, but (likely) nothing of complex low-level software engineering. Those pieces of software tends to be pretty complex in terms of programming and the low-level knowledge required is pretty high, to the point that you'll need far more than just a few classes of software architecture.

The same rules applies to computer engineers, that knows a lot of maths and physics, trying to understand how something of the "ME world" works.

[Anonymous No.9319378]

>>9319329
Thanks mate!

[Anonymous No.9319384]

>>9319332
about what CS CE and EE actually are

[Anonymous No.9319433]

>>9319377

To an extent, I agree. I have limited experience using machine learning and editing/compiling source code for my own uses, but then again it's for a specific use. If you know what MCNP is, it's something along those lines.

This is anecdotal, I know, but I work in a specific group where most of our work is written and compiled by nuclear engineers and physicists. Most definitely my knowledge in programming, system architecture, and software implementation is limited to my area of specialization, but I learned most of it through my ME program. Mathematics wise, the only additional math I had to learn outside ME to do this was logic. It's very likely in a different field and institution that this might not be true, but for me I was able to get by without having to take any CE, CS, or other advanced math classes.

[Anonymous No.9319435]

>>9319433
Protip: hardware exists. even if you can write some code, that doesn't mean you have any idea how computers work

[Anonymous No.9319469]

>>9319248
humans stem from apes, not monkeys, you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.9319569]

>>9319312

Enjoy your rocks faggot.

[Anonymous No.9319583]

>>9300962
Any science field that does not involve goats.

[Anonymous No.9319781]

programming

[Anonymous No.9319785]

>>9301976
im an EE student but holy fuck isn't this a delusional post

[Anonymous No.9319788]

>>9302156
where's medicine?

[Anonymous No.9319806]

>>9319788
<100 so you can't see it

[Anonymous No.9319810]

>>9301022
not STEM you brainlet

[Anonymous No.9319827]

>tfw double-majoring in maths and ME
>prestige of a maths degree
>great job prospects

lmao at all these single major PERMA-BRAINLETS

[Anonymous No.9319834]

>>9319788
higher than 135 IQ

[Anonymous No.9319917]

>>9319093
wtf a real comment with thought

[Anonymous No.9319924]

We already been through this, it's biology.

[Anonymous No.9319933]

>>9302156
>religion major is closest to biological sciences
kek

[Anonymous No.9319940]

>this thread is still up
holy shit

[Anonymous No.9319996]

>>9313462
whats the 120 IQ one with 85-90% women?

[Anonymous No.9320169]

>>9319827
>>prestige of a maths degree

[Anonymous No.9320176]

>>9319781
Explain that. If you can't (you'll not can), then you're a goddamn brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9320185]

>>9319924
It isn't, definitely.

[Anonymous No.9320236]

>>9304312
>Countries with lots of Christians
>Among the smart students are lots of Christians
Wow, you should write a paper about it!

[Anonymous No.9320414]

>>9304013
is MechE a meme now?

[Anonymous No.9320667]

>>9320414

It's full of people that like popscience and cars, by far the most normie engineering

[Anonymous No.9320702]

>>9320176
>you'll not can

almost took the bait

[Anonymous No.9320801]

>>9320702
It's very easy to talk bullshit from the ignorance, but things gets harder when somebody asks you for arguments. We need more arguments in this shitty thread. Maths are for brainlets, as a twat says above? What a joke. Justify your statement, you twat.

[Anonymous No.9320834]

>>9300962
CS with a concentration in "user experience" or "user interface design"

there's SO MANY brainlet girls at my uni who do that and can't even code

[Anonymous No.9322667]

>>9320667
cars are pretty cool, but I'm more interested in material sciences. I'm in EE right now.

[Anonymous No.9322767]

>>9320834
this
I've startded seeing user experience engineer and front end engineer job titles popping up recently
the cs bubble can't pop soon enough

[Anonymous No.9322791]

>>9313526
>There should be universities that only teach/give degrees in mathematics, computer science, engineering and the stuff in between.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_technology

[Anonymous No.9322995]

>>9300962
>ctrl+F "linguistics"
>nothing
Nice.