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Did it happen?

>> No.9287987

no

>> No.9287989

yes

>> No.9287990

>>9287987
>>9287989
fucking hell

>> No.9287991

No they didn't, anyone who can think critically knows they were bullshit, even those who pretend they believe them.

Credit where credit is due though, very impressive hoax, and no doubt I would have fallen for it hook, line and sinker if I lived in the 60s.

>> No.9287997

>>9287991
T. brainlet

>> No.9288000

>>9287997
T. brainlet

>> No.9288004

>>9288000
T. brainlet

>> No.9288005

Did they land on the other side of the moon? If not should be able to see proof on the surface.

>> No.9288008

you'd think soviets would have said something if they thought it was larping

>> No.9288011

>>9288005
We can see it and we have seen it but these mental dwarfs will just say photoshop. There is zero to be gained from these threads, flat earth threads, etc. Stop wasting your life here.

>> No.9288013

>>9288004
They didn't happen buddy. I'm sure we just magically learned how to get to the fucking moon in 1969 even though we can't even do it now.

>> No.9288021

>>9288013
evidence?

>> No.9288026

>>9288021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SfSQZjoKhg

Just look how uncomfortable that autist looks lying through his teeth. He KNOWS we've never been there before, but somehow we just "destroyed that technology"?

>> No.9288035

Fuck I really need to stop replying to bait posts

>> No.9288041

>>9288035
>e-everything I don't agree with is bait!

>> No.9288047

>>9288041
Not everything, just this dumb fucking thread.

>> No.9288069

How could that shitty looking Lunar Module broadcast a TV signal 200,000+ miles away to satellites that are supposedly spinning with the earth at over 1000mph? Do you know how big TV transmitters are? Do you know the massive amount of power they require?

>> No.9288249

>>9288069
>Hurr durr what are directional antennas and line of sight

>> No.9288296

>>9287984

Yes, and the best part of all is that the physical evidence is all over the place, just waiting for us to re-visit it. But of course that won't matter to the deniers. Once you are committed to a lie, you'll always defend it unto ego death, even denying your own lying eyes.

>> No.9288303

>>9288249

What a fantastic explanation.

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>>9287984

>> No.9288496

>>9288477
DO I LOOK LIKE I KNOW WHAT A JAY PEG IS

>> No.9288497

>>9288477

That rectangle around the earth is simply Gravitonian Radiation emitting from the north and south pole (it's basically dark matter for those brainlets out there).

Science wins again!

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>> No.9288516

No. Rockets don't work in space.

>Muh Newton laws

top fucking kek.

>> No.9288525
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9288525

Aye, she may not look it, but she's a sturdy craft.

>> No.9288560

>>9288525
Is this a joke?

>> No.9288562

>>9288525

Just wow. Apollo 11. A simply stunning feat of engineering. A true warrior.

Incredibly, it only required 3 nano watts of power to be fully functional. That's barely enough power to set a single atom on fire!

>> No.9288581

>>9288560
No, that's the real deal. If you're referring to the comment, then yes , I was just shitposting.

>> No.9288593

>>9288562
>Fire
>In space
Further proof that it was all a hoax.

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In 2008, the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) SELENE lunar probe obtained several photographs showing evidence of Moon landings.

The Soviet Union monitored the missions at their Space Transmissions Corps, which was "fully equipped with the latest intelligence-gathering and surveillance equipment."

Apollo 8, 10 - 17 missions have observed evidence.

Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter mission beginning in July 2009 show the six Apollo Lunar Module descent stages, Apollo Lunar Surface Experiment Package (ALSEP) science experiments, astronaut footpaths, and lunar rover tire tracks.

Aside from NASA, a number of entities and individuals observed, through various means, the Apollo missions as they took place.

But who knows, maybe there's a global conspiracy.

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>>9287984
You fool. Gona get us all killed.
Everybody here knows the truth. The government spent trillions keeping the secret and killing everyone who talked. Just play along. Like we all do.

>> No.9288710

>>9288008
Also, why wouldn't the Soviets have just larped an even better moon landing, with blackjack and hookers? They are crazy for state conspiracies over there, as much, if not more than here.

>> No.9288749

>>9288685
Are you telling me the fucking tire marks, from 50 years ago, are still on the moon?

>> No.9288759

>>9288749
there's no wind you dummy, it doesn't have an atmosphere

so yes

>> No.9288802

>>9287984
Suppose I don't believe human visited Moon. Let my argument be it is too far away (4 E8 meters) for that much weight (3 E6 kg). Current satellites of that time were 100x closer (3 to 4 E6 meters) and 100-1000x times lighter.

Distance from Earth to Moon (meter): 4 E8
Distance from Earth to satellites of that time (meter): 3 to 4 E6

Mass of rocket that is claimed to brought humans to Moon (integrale of kg per meter):
>3 E6 to 5 E4 from Earth to 2 E5 (at that point module was separated from carrier rocket)
>5 E4 to 5 E3 from 2 E5 to surface of Moon
>With 5 E3 from surface of Moon to Earth

Mass of satellites of that time (kg): order of magnitude E3 to E4

I accept that unmanned devices did land on Moon. Latest lunar orbiter had a mass of 4 E3, 10x lighter than manned spacecraft.

In anticipation to the most common counterarguments
>There is a reflective surface in Moon that the men installed. You can shine laser onto it
Unmanned device could've easily planted that. I accept that reflective surface of that kind couldn't have formed spontaneously.
>Why would they fake a moon landing?
Power display. USSR and USA were heavily influenced by competition that could've driven them to such acts.
>What difference does it make whether they were on the Moon or not?
Humans have unrealistic expectations on space transportation possibilities. I want to reinforce the concept that humanity will (1) never live on any other celestial body other than Earth (2) never be able to transport any instrument outside the Solar system (3) never find extraterrestrial life. These realistic expectations will possibly lead to better environmental policies.


In conclusion: I claim a human has never touched the surface of Moon and returned alive.

How would you attack my claim so that I myself could reproduce the results? Merit of science is that in principle anyone could verify what you say, and that for a claim to be true, it must also be verified by someone else (for example, not USA).

>> No.9288814

yes it happened just watch this

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiV-taq67XXAhUE5SYKHWzqCxsQyCkIKjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D5C5_dOEyAfk&usg=AOvVaw0YB7oJrdtyaDNgqiW2F_r5

>> No.9288817

and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc4xYacTu-E

>> No.9288824

>>9288516
I've been saying that for ages, planes, helicopters and rockets push against the air. In space there is nothing to push against. Moon landings are all lies.

>> No.9288827

>>9288685
I can see pixels.
Also, soviets were conned like everyone else.

>> No.9288886

>>9288824
Rockets create thrust with a powerful force that drives the spacecraft forward. Air is not necessary, in fact it is actually a hindrance. The low gravity of the moon along with the fact that there is no air resistance allows rockets to thrust an object much more efficiently than on the earth. On the other hand, a helicopter is more like a flying insect. The wings require air resistance to push on the air underneath the insect. This is what allows the insect to fly, it is nothing like a rocket.

>> No.9289054

>>9288886
your mom is a flying insect

>> No.9289132

>>9288759
If it doesn't have an atmosphere then where does the dust and soil come from to make the tire marks?

Wouldn't the room just be a rock?

>> No.9289139

>>9288886
What the fuck are you saying?
It's pushing against the air, like when there's a explosion and you feel a wave of air push against you from the displacement.

Otherwise you could just close the bottom of the rocket/firework or the bottom of a bullet.

>> No.9289157

>Rockets work by burning fuel.
>To burn things you need air.
>There is no air in space nor on the moon.

It did happen. In a movie.

>> No.9289214

>>9288685
These are fake. The proof is the tire tracks are disproportional to the size of the lander module.

>> No.9289226

>>9289139

Clearly there is air in space and on the moon. NASA has been covering this up to prevent people relocating to other planets in order to keep earth property prices high.

>> No.9289235

>>9289226
I believe the moon is much smaller and closer to earth with air between the two.

>> No.9289254

>>9287984
Have you ever found a picture taken from Earth showing the moon rover's tracks and the USA flag on the moon?

>> No.9289480

>>9289139
Are you retarded? You do know modern ammunition works in space, right? Same principle as a rocket. Create a massive amount of force behind the object to propel it forward.

>> No.9289482

>>9289157
Oxygen is stored on spaceships to ignite fuel.

>> No.9289519

>>9288802
>Integrale
Also
>Igblyign that satellites use the maximum of their booster's capabilities

>> No.9289521

>>9287991
Lol how did they fake it then? And if they had to use secret tech to fake it than why couldn't they have used secret tech to go to the moon instead?

>> No.9289528

>>9289157
Assuming that you're serious, go read a copy of Ignition!

>> No.9289531

>>9288005
Pro tip, you can. Buy a telescope or find out how to make one if you think that a purchased one would somehow lie to you.

>> No.9289534

>>9288026
You're subhuman

>> No.9289535

>>9288477
Autism has consumed you.

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>>9288514
Wow in 5 seconds you showed you don't understand how camera, or reflections work. Brainlet.

>> No.9289554

>>9288749
This is how you can believe things like the moon landing are a hoax, literally have no fucking clue about anything.

>> No.9289556

>>9289528
I read that book a few years back after a recommendation from /sci/, its an odd mishmash of technical information and memoir that's really engrossing and a pretty short read.

>> No.9289572

>>9288824
That's not how that works brainlet.

>> No.9289577

>>9289235
Oh Yeah? Is the earth also flat and patrolled by a spotlight sun?

>> No.9289593

>>9288516
>>9288824
>thrust only occurs in fluid atmospheres
LOL

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Some of the images provided to the public by NASA are likely training missions, air-brushed, or studio fabrications.

Why?

Because what they found out there is "Classified"...

Yes- The Moon Missions are/were real.

There are creatures up there and they are not hostile, but not friendly either.

They will fuck with your mind, and your equipment, making any contact extremely uncomfortable.

For the most part Earth Degenerates are Not Welcome.
.

>> No.9289691

>>9289554
>solar wind would strip our planet's atmosphere if it weren't for magnetism
>but does jack shit to fucking tire tracks on the moon

Yeah, no.

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>>9289677

>> No.9289727

>>9287984
The best proof?
20 years of acceptence from the USSR versus 20 years of internet nekbeard "truthers".

If it was faked it would have been blown before the end of July 1969

>> No.9289742

>>9289132
Impacts. Rocks and shit from space hit the moon and fragment on impact.

>> No.9289750

>>9287984
Yes, multiple times

>> No.9289820

>>9287984
lets just say if things were any other way, things would be different

>> No.9289821

>>9289691
You're such a mongoloid, please keep posting.

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The only way NASA could have got so many Moon rocks is that they got them from getting men onto the Moon

>> No.9289849

>>9289727
Not to mention that faking it would have required tech that didnt exist.

>> No.9289860

>>9289830
"Moon thruthers" claim that there are no proven moon rocks.

>> No.9289865

>>9287991
T.brainlet

>> No.9289872

>>9289860
u wot m8?

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>>9289538
>not an argument

>> No.9289890

>>9289698
You're making hoaxers look bad with this retarded shit.

>> No.9289892

yes.

The Soviet Union was at the height of their power in the 1970s. It would have been a propaganda coup to prove the American moon landing a hoax. Yet the Soviets never even attempted to discredit the moon landings.

>> No.9289895

>>9289892

exactly, this is the biggest flaw in moon landing deniers.

Russia would have been all over proving it was faked and they didn't

>> No.9289898

>>9289820
Spoken like an engineer pretending to be a scientist

>> No.9289901

>>9289895
How would the Russians know exactly? Please enlighten us with your knowledge of 60's Soviet space tracking technology.

>> No.9289904

>>9289830
We have mars rocks, too. When did we go there?

>> No.9289911

>>9289901
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunokhod_programme

>> No.9289914

>>9289904
We have a few grams of Mars rocks, we have hundreds of kg of Moon rocks

>> No.9289919

>>9288640
Man in a suit wearing skis?

>> No.9289921

>>9289914
>The moon is 33 million miles closer and caught in earths gravity well

>> No.9289924

>>9289919
Obviously

>> No.9289925

>>9289921
That's not a counter argument

>> No.9289929

>>9289911
Yould probably understand why that's not an answer if you bothered to read your link.

>> No.9289933

>>9289925
>>>9289921 (You)
>That's not a counter argument
No. It's a reasonable explanation.

>> No.9289941

>>9289933
A reasonable explanation for hundreds of kgs of Moon rocks turning up after NASA claimed to have been to the Moon is that the Moon is close to the Earth compared to Mars

>> No.9289950

>>9289941
Werner von Braun scoured Antarctica for moonrocks prior to the Apollo program.

>> No.9289961

>>9289882
You act like there was an argument to respond too.

>> No.9289978

>>9289950
Fuck wow, imagine if they'd sent a geologist instead of a rocket scientist who didn't know what Moon rocks looked like! Especially if that geologist knew they could be found there 20 years before it was known they could be found there!

>> No.9289982

>>9288514
In what way is this proof that the moon landing is fake?

>> No.9289989

>>9289961
You said the infograph was incorrect but didn't explain why.

>> No.9289995

>>9289978
https://phonyapollomoonlandings.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/nasas-moon-rocks-lunar-meteorite-fragments-found-in-antarctica/

>> No.9290012

itt: A U T I S M

>> No.9290015

>>9287991
T.brainlet

>> No.9290016

>>9289995
The first link is the only one that claims they got rocks from Antarctica and the link doesn't work

Von Braun did go to Antarctica, not that he would know what a Moon rock would look like

That's a single fake Moon rock, they gave out so many samples that many more fakes would have been spotted by now. There are other Moon rocks in the Netherlands that they didn't think were faked that they have owned since the early 70s

>> No.9290026

>>9290016
How would the Netherlands know what a moonrock looks like?

>> No.9290030

>>9287991
>think critically

Go back to Facebook Tyrone

>> No.9290057

>>9289989
What does the info graphic even claim? How are any of its claims proof of anything of anything rather than just a description of the picture?

>> No.9290064

>>9290012
The moon landing didn't happen and here's my crazy complicated explanation as to why that involves "them" using secret technology to make a fake video. Also they couldbt have gone to the moon becuase their technology wasnt advandced enough.

>> No.9290077

>>9290057
You can see how close the horizon is in both the background and in the opposite direction in the reflection of the visor. That is not a natural setting.

>> No.9290100

>>9290077
How So? What does that make it not a natural setting?

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this thread makes me sad.

>> No.9290112

>>9287991
T.brainlet

>> No.9290125

>>9290100
The horizon should be at least 1.5 miles in either direction on the moon. The landers shadow almost reaches the horizon. That doesn't look off to you?

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>>9288514
really activates your almonds

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Oh shit

>> No.9290141

>>9290125
No. It doesn't. Why does it look "off" to you? I think you might be failing to understand focal points.

>> No.9290151

>>9290141
Maybe. I'm no expert. Here: I found some links I have saved that may be of interest to those who are in this thread:
**Essential reading:**

[Wagging the Moondoggie](http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/Dave%20McGowan%20-%20Wagging%20The%20Moon%20Doggie.pdf))

[A Stereoscopic method of verifying Apollo lunar surface images](http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm))

[Examples of anomalies and inconsistencies in the Apollo photography](http://www.aulis.com/nasa4.htm))

**Essential watching:**

[A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4))


[What Happened on the Moon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W79mIGx9Ib4))

[Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybJMuowl0UU))

[Astronauts Gone Wild](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr6Vcvl0OeU))

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>>9290125
>The horizon should be at least 1.5 miles in either direction on the moon.

It's almost as if the moon isn't totally flat. I can literally go to my back yard and find a "horizon" that is closer to me than it would be on a perfect sphere.

>> No.9290162

>>9290151
>I'm no expert.
This is the most accurate thing you have written all day.

>> No.9290173

>>9290162
Wow. You really burst my bubble and put me in my place with your insightful commentary. You must be an expert at criticizing strangers on the internet. My hat's off to you sir!

>> No.9290174

>>9289691
Pressure from solar wind is so minuscule that it's less than a tenth of the pressure in an ultra-high vacuum. It strips planet's gases by fucking up the magnetosphere that traps gases in the atmosphere. It has no effect on the surface, not like real wind.

>> No.9290175

>>9290151
I've actually seen a wealth of this information and the information that refutes it well. I'd recommend trying not to overly commit to the idea that we didn't go to the moon, cognitive bias leads to many mistakes, I've tried to apply the Socratic method and such and I believe that we went to the moon.

>> No.9290179

>>9290154
>It's almost as if the moon isn't totally flat.
Oh you fool, you believe in the moon landing AND round planets? They really have you hooked.

/sarcasm

>> No.9290182

>>9289534
Not an argument, buddy. He clearly says that we dont have the technology to go to the moon anymore. How did we have it in 1969 if not now?

Answer: we never actually had it.

>> No.9290186

>>9290175
It's not that I don't believe we've been to the moon, it's how it's been presented to the public that I find many flaws with. This thread doesn't even begin to tackle the technological hurdles that were miraculously overcome to make the Apollo program a success.

>> No.9290217

>>9287991
B. trainlet

>> No.9290219

>>9290182
>how did we have it, but don't anymore?
I'm sorry we didn't keep making ships that were able to go the moon and you think that proves something? The fact that we don't currently have any technology that can go to the moon isn't proof we arnt able to create technology that can go to the moon or that we never had the ability to go to the moon. It's just proof that going the moon isn't so worthwhile as to warrant the cost to keep going. You're argument sums up to "why didn't we keep building Apollo like space vehicles if we could" and somehow think the answer is "we didnt" rather than " we stopped wanting to"

>> No.9290582

>>9288506
Holup-- when you move a camera a few feet, thngs in the foreground seem to shift more in the images than things further away? What the fuck???

>> No.9290587

>>9288477
Look up the real NASA image. Earth is not in the picture. Somebody shopped it in because they thought it would look cool.

>> No.9290647

>>9288005
>fire laser at the reflector they left on the moon
>it comes back

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>>9288026
We have no landers, we have no crew capsules that have been tested and rated for deep space and we have no rockets that can lift the required payload to do a Moon landing.

Of course, that's my interpretation of what he is saying. The video commentator and you have other interpretations but we could both be wrong because fuck language.

>> No.9290662

>>9288506
You discovered parallax!

>> No.9290669

>>9288640
>its really strange that the thing the guy is looking at is reflected in his visor!

Either that or the argument is that the Moon landing hoax videos were filmed by tiny people because he is looking down so what we see in his reflection must be below him and in front of the camera.

>> No.9290675

>>9288497
None of what you said makes sense. Gravitonian radiation? Gravity and electromagnetism and two different things! And even if they were emitted by north and south poles Why would it be square-shaped? And dark matter? Don't even get me started on that one.

>> No.9290681

>>9288516
>Rockets don't work in space.
You don't even know how they work inside the atmosphere Do you?

>> No.9290689

>>9289139
No moron, rockets are not propelled by air shockwaves. There is not enough air inside the fuel compartment to create such massive wave!

You know how an explosion pushes air outwards thus creating a shockwave? Well, rockets can be pushed too, you know?

>> No.9290693

>>9289139
>Otherwise you could just close the bottom of the rocket/firework or the bottom of a bullet.
If you did, the explosion would push the other end thus all forces would even out! The force exerted upward = the one exerted downward

>> No.9290729

>>9287984
no.

what you saw was staged.

the real landings you will never see

>> No.9290749

>>9288516
>>9288824
Newton's laws

>> No.9290862

>>9287984
>Did it happen?
What do you mean by "it", Peasant?

>> No.9290948

>>9287989
same anon

>> No.9290972

>>9290659
>>9290219

>> No.9291095

>>9290972
I know, but it comes down to your interpretation of having the technology.

It's not that was aren't technically capable of doing it. Any of the major rocket manufacturers could build a rocket to go to the Moon, they do actually have the technology, but we have nothing that is actually capable of doing it right now.

So it comes down to whether you interpret his statement as talking about the required equipment being manufactured and ready right now, or the knowledge, materials and processes to make that equipment.

>> No.9291232

Jesus Christ.
>"The Moon Landings were a hoax".
Next thing you'll be telling me is that The WWE is fake too.
Fucking stupid asses.

>> No.9291235

>>9287984
Nvidia relased a video showing a model of the scene. They added the reflection of the suit and some other things. For certain we can say that if it didn't happen then Nvidia are part of the deep state.

>> No.9291250

>>9290647
Big deal, what an incredible accomplishment for mankind, the sun is reflecting off the moon all the time.

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>>9289677
T.moonman

>> No.9291278
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>>9289901
You know they were building a lunar vessel too right? Of course you don't.

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>>9289925
Have you got needs? Like the need to wear a bicycle helmet onto your highschool bus?

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>>9290132
Spoopy

>> No.9291302

>>9287984
this is why mars landing just dream

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>>9291250
How retarded can one person be? I think you found the limit

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>> No.9291397

>>9291311
Go ahead, blow up the moon with your goddamn lasers. While you are at it, blow up mars too.

>> No.9291408

Moon landing most likely happened. We did it during the cold war while the ruskies were trying to as well. They would have found out it was a hoax and called us out on it.

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>>9288477

this>>9290587

>> No.9291415

>>9291408
Maybe the russians wanted america to believe that the russians believed it.

>> No.9291424

>>9291342
This is proof of fakery.
All this works on a battery in 1969 but my phone can`t last a day without recharge.

>> No.9291495

>>9291424
>The suits were made by Playtex (the bra company).
>how is that little oxygen tank supposed to keep someone alive for hours in a vacuum?
>battery technology was absolute shit in the 60's but their lem has enough juice to keep the A/C going for days
>they took an impossible amount of photos for the time they were there, even under optimum conditions, let alone on a shitty hasselblad camera that they couldn't aim and had to manually wind each time while wearing fucking nerf gloves. Nevermind all the photos are somehow studio-quality.
>they couldn't test the lem engines to see if they even worked because the fuel was so corrosive it destroyed them after one use.
How the fuck did they dock with the lem before heading to the moon if no one was in the lem? How come no one can explain the fucking docking mechanism?
How did they depressurize and repressurize the lem so many times in a vacuum? The thing was flimsy aluminum only a few thousandths thick.
>How did they reenter earths atmosphere while travelling at 30 thousand miles per hour without burning up without the aid of computers or maneuvering rockets?
>etc., etc.

>> No.9291503

>>9287991
How did they put the flag on the moon without going there? Are you retarded?

>> No.9291508

>>9291278
>>>9289901 (You)
>You know they were building a lunar vessel too right? Of course you don't.

How does their failed rocket program equate to being able to track a miniscule object in the vastness of space?

>> No.9291513

>>9291503
Can you provide verifiable evidence that there even is a flag planted on the moon?

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>>9291513
caN YoU prOViDe VEriFiFYAbLE eVideNcE thAt There eVen iS A flAG pLanTEd oN tHE mOoN

>> No.9291522

>>9291517
See
>>9289214
>you must be dumb because you don't share my opinion even though I can't prove what I believe is true and accept that the government would never lie to it's citizens.
Really fires up my retro-rockets

>> No.9291525

>>9291408
How would they find out? The only satellite they had was sputnik and all it did was beep.

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>>9291347
>Ladder: For climbing down to the lunar surface
Thanks diagram!

>> No.9291529

>>9291525
sputnik was the first space probe ever, not even a satellite
it's out there right now, parsecs away

>> No.9291533

>>9291529
>>>9291525 (You)
>sputnik was the first space probe ever, not even a satellite
That's my point
>it's out there right now, parsecs away
What is doing the Kessel run?

>> No.9291535

>>9291529
Probably more like AUs

>> No.9291542

>>9291529
>>9291535
It was the first man-made satellite that made 1440 orbits in 21 days before falling back to earth and burning up in atmosphere.

>> No.9291543

>>9291095
No it comes down to understandingnwhat words mean, you're a retard.

>> No.9291546

>>9291250
Whew little Brainlet.

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>>9291522
if you researched it you'd know there was proof. if you can't accept unanimously agreed upon historical events then it's your fault.

>> No.9291549

>>9291095
I understand what you mean, even though I'm the main devils advocate in this thread. Don't listen to
>>9291543

>> No.9291553 [DELETED] 

>>9291543
do you conspiritards get off sexually when people acknowledge you I bet. is precum leaking out of your dingle, conspiritard? do you think you're exposing da trufe conspiratard?

>> No.9291554

>>9291548
If you researched it even further you'd find the Adobe Photoshop watermarks embedded in the files and also see
>>9289214

>> No.9291556

>>9291554
everyone already btfo all your "arguments". not going to give you any more attention that your parents should have gave to you

>> No.9291560

>>9291553
Why does it bother you to question a narrative when it doesn't add up quite right? Do you believe everything you see on television? Why are the only counter arguments in this thread brainlet memes?

>> No.9291562

>>9287984

How are we this anti-science as a culture?

>> No.9291563

>>9291513
Buy a telescope for $200 And you can see it from your backyard, god you "Moon thruthers" are so stupid, I always wonder how people fall for that shit but time and again you show it.

>> No.9291564

>>9291556
>>>9291554 (You)
>everyone already btfo all your "arguments". not going to give you any more attention that your parents should have gave to you
No, but I have conceded on a couple of points that I've raised.

>> No.9291567

>>9291525
Research "the Russian wood pecker" for example. More pragmatically though if you can "prove" the moon lansingnis fake with all your bullshit measurements and misunderstanding then why couldn't the combined power of the Soviets figure out those same things?

>> No.9291569

>>9291563
>>>9291513 (You)
>Buy a telescope for $200 And you can see it from your backyard, god you "Moon thruthers" are so stupid, I always wonder how people fall for that shit but time and again you show it.
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but there isn't a telescope on earth that is powerful enough to view any of the Apollo sites.

>> No.9291575

>>9291567
See
>>9289901
And
>>9291508
Also, can anyone comment on any of these?
>>9291495

>> No.9291580

>>9291525
I don't know anon. Point a radio receiver at the moon, and pick up the signals they're broadcasting indiscriminately towards earth. You could calculate distance and location with paper and pen.

>> No.9291588

>>9291580
Yes, but that wouldn't tell me the manifest of the craft whose signal I was receiving. Or even if the signal originated from there. The moon is a reflective surface that was used before the space race to bounce radio signals off of.

>> No.9291615

>>9291588
>The moon is a reflective surface that was used before the space race to bounce radio signals off of.
Would you think that would change the lag between broadcast and transmission? Or that a radio signal bounced off the moon would be scattered and distorted the way a broadcast originating from the moon wouldn't? You don't need to broadcast with nearly as much energy from space, because you don't have to punch through the atmosphere of earth.
Not to mention that they were up there for days, you can't fake that with a continuous transmission from a single source on earth because earth rotates around an axis. So to keep up this conspiracy you have multiple broadcast sources sending the fake signal to the moon to bounce off the moon to be picked up by the russians, and just hope no one notices the signal scattering off our own atmosphere.
Not to mention, what would this signal have been "reflected" from during the entire transit where you don't have a convenient reflective source?
That radio signal was a moving point through "empty" space that was continuously broadcasting to relay stations around the globe.
The conspiracy to trick the Russians into thinking we landed on the moon would be so big, and complicated, and predicated on technology we still don't have, that it would have just been easier to land on the moon.

>> No.9291617

>>9291575
Why should I go look at those? My post is a response to those sentiment. Ho e do you not get that? Did you actuallyread my post?

>> No.9291667

>>9291615
This thread is starting to wear me out. Everything you said is true, but for the Soviets to be tracking us they would have needed powerful anntenas pointed precisely at the craft. So would the U.S., for that matter. How would the Soviets know where to point this supposed antenna?

>> No.9291681

>>9291617
My sentiment is the Soviets couldn't prove or disprove what happened and relying on them to make your case for you is insufficient to prove the plausibility of the missions given the overwhelming amount of 'bullshit measurements' and technological hurdles that say otherwise.

>> No.9291716

>>9291667
>they would have needed powerful anntenas pointed precisely at the craft.
Where would a superpower with its own space program get such things?
And again, it was a global collaborative effort, they had antenna all over the world tuning in because they wanted to maintain continuous contact with the mission. All you need is to know where one station is tracking at one time, and you deduce the rest through math.
And this wasn't something the american's exactly wanted to hide, the space race was a massive international dick waving competition, you don't think when they finally took the brass ring that they weren't going to gloat to the ruskies.
You don't have to scan the vast expanse of the cosmos either, they were trying to get to the moon as well, they knew the optimal routes and approach vectors. You just need to keep an eye out for where it *SHOULD* be and you've got a good chance of finding an aberrant radio signal where there shouldn't be one. Then you focus in on them and monitor them with radio antenna all over your massive continent spanning country.

>> No.9291736

>>9291716
Let's say your explanation is correct and they were indeed tracking a craft in orbit of the moon. How would they know it wasn't one of the lunar satellites NASA had sent up beforehand and were using to relay signals with?

>> No.9291786

>>9291736
I'm just afraid that as the circle starts to shrink you're going to ask how mirrors can be real.
We watched them get into the Apollo module, the one that sat on top of the Saturn V rocket. A fuck huge engineering apex designed to get three dudes and something the size of a minivan to the moon. It was the culmination of everything we had learned in the space program thus far, with the collective industrial and scientific might of the largest economy and world super power behind it.
The fact that this thing actually existed, and people saw it take off, with people inside of it means *something* went up. From that point on, and object was continuously tracked on its path from earth to the moon, with constant contact.
So lets assume that this was just for a laugh, and they were just circling the earth for a couple of days while the Lunar probe went to the moon anyways, broadcasting a relayed signal (which would have to be continuously broadcasted from multiple locations around the globe, with nothing reflecting off the atmosphere, and compensating for the lag in time that you would have in communication, because Soviets had signal intelligence looking for things like that). So lets assume all this. Where did that take off from? No one noticed a simultaneous launch? This was the cold war, ICBM's had been in existence, we had ways to watch for orbital launches or at least detect them.
It would be easier to actually go to the moon then it would be to LARP going to the moon JUST to trick the Russians.

>> No.9291799

>>9291786
https://youtu.be/TCY69fT6cXA
This 10 minute video is irrefutable evidence of trickery.

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>>9291799

>> No.9291817

>>9291681
That's not an argument though. Saying that they couldn't do it but you somehow can doesn't make any sense, what resource or information do you have that they didn't and still don't have? You're ridiculous.

>> No.9291826

>>9291799
Hahahahaha, you brainlet.

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>>9291811
It's fucking YouTube

>> No.9291833

>>9291817
Shhh. Adults are talking.

>> No.9291837

>>9291833
Keep posting you sad autistic man.

>> No.9291840

>>9287984
Provide proof that it was faked rather than shitty ad-hic explanations for every individual detail as they come up.

PRO TIP, YOU CANT.

>> No.9291841

>>9291837
>>9291826
See
>>9291560

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>>9291830
>muh tinfoil hat video on youtube is proof
If you can't articulate your point then you really have no point trying to advocate a crackpot theory.
You're not presenting any arguments, just suppositions based on ignorance.

>> No.9291845

>>9291840
See
>>9291799

>> No.9291853

>>9291843
>tinfoil hat video
It's literally NASA footage of Apollo 11 lying about their position and using lighting and covering part of the window to make them seem further from the earth than they actually were.

>> No.9291858

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP6Y0Pnhe4

I know there's flat earth niggers itt. explain 13:00 through 16:00 to me. go on, should be quite kekworthy.

>> No.9291860

>>9291841
It doesn't bother me to question it, I've questioned it myself, applied the Socratic method and so forth, the thing that bothers me to some extent is thatg people are asserting these things as fact, they say they know that it was faked yet can't provide reasonable proof of that while at the same time it can reasonably be proven that we went to the moon. At this point it would either have to be some actual illuminati shit, controlling or influencing all the world's governments, or we went to the moon.

>> No.9291861

>>9291845
I did, doesn't even attempt to make a coherent argument. Try again.

>> No.9291864

>>9291853
>and that PROVES we didn't go to the moon
How much do you plan to sell this information to the Russians for so that they can embarrass the US on the world stage?

>> No.9291868

>>9291860
>some actual illuminati shit
This is at least fun. If you want to tell me the moon landings were a hoax because the reptilians don't want us to know about the hollow earth then I've got all day to listen to you, I'll bring the booze and the pizza.

>> No.9291870

>>9291860
>>9291864
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/587569/NASA-really-land-Moon-Russia-probes-missing-video-lunar-rock-faked-hoax-astronaut

>> No.9291877

>>9291868
That's at least entertaining, I agree. My point was mostly that it would require, basically, that the world be run by a shadow government or some other such hidden, extremely powerful, orginization for the moon landing to have been faked.

>> No.9291881

>>9291870
>He said: "We are not contending that they did not fly [to the moon], and simply made a film about it. But all of these scientific — or perhaps cultural — artefacts are part of the legacy of humanity, and their disappearance without a trace is our common loss. An investigation will reveal what happened."


Can you not read?

>> No.9291895

>>9291870
A guy, who no longer has a job with the Russians, once wanted to investigate the mis-handling of equipment and samples at NASA. 2 years stand nothing has come of it. Neat.

>> No.9291897

>>9291881
>But his comments are certain to be seen as a deliberate attempt to suggest there is reason to doubt the lunar landing was real – especially as he also attacked the US investigation into FIFA corruption.
Sometimes they sneak additional information into paragraphs other than the first one or two.

>> No.9291901

>>9291868
Take notes and make a sci fi table top rpg like dnd.

>> No.9291905

>>9291897
The author of the article says that. The person actually making the claim took the time to say that they weren't trying to say that America didn't go to the moon.

Sometimes articles are full of conjecture.

>> No.9291910

>>9291897
>But his comments are certain to be seen as


But that's not what his comments were. You can't be this dumb right?

>> No.9291919

Adding to
>>9291905
>>9291897
>Ruskie gets mad that the US investigated their football team
>decided that's grounds for him to investigate the validity of lunar missions
>no longer in the position
>nothing has come of the "investigation"

>> No.9291959

>>9291919
>no longer in the position
>nothing has come of the "investigation"
He was clearly silenced by big space.

>> No.9292262

>>9291503
It's french flag. French reached moon first.

>> No.9292271

deres a radar reflector on da moon doe

>> No.9292297

>>9291959
>big space

dont tell me they think space corps have time to worry about things like that?

btw, where do these brainlets think satellite TV comes from?

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>>9289139

>> No.9293158

>>9291563
Go on, take a pic then and show us.
I'm not wasting 200 bucks, it`s bad enough being ripped off billions of tax money from the american people in the 60s.

>> No.9293180

>>9291786
Good Goy.

>> No.9293620

>>9293158
The point of telling you to do it youself is so that you can then independently verify the truth rather than just telling me my picture is fake. Do it yourself you subhuman monster.

>> No.9293748

>>9287991
bait