/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9271954]

>Let's look at a real world application

[Anonymous No.9271957]

>Let's look at an imaginary world application

[Anonymous No.9271973]

>Let's look at an application

>mfw

[Anonymous No.9271983]

engineering > fake world applications

[Anonymous No.9272166]

>>9271954
>We'll skip the proof for now

[Anonymous No.9272179]

>>9271954
>Does proofs on paper
>Does proofs on kilometre high constructs of steel and glass
>Patrician engineer > pure mathematics

[Anonymous No.9272181]

>let's reenact this experiment

[Anonymous No.9272215]

>>9271954
To be quite honest this soured my early differential equations class. We were just finishing the first module which is all about random substitutions and how that works but then the second module was a transition from that to a more qualitative approach to studying solutions of differential equations and obviously I was excited by then BAM

>For the next few classes we are going to look at applications. Look at these physics equations. Now, look at these statistics equations. Great job.

And it was so fucking boring. To be quite honest the only thing I learned is that it must suck dick to be a physicist or statistician and have to actually care about those trivial disgusting differential equations that even a retard could solve.

[Anonymous No.9272219]

>>9271954
>Assume.

>ASSUME

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.9272228]

>>9271957
>consider these points on the real and imaginary plane

[Anonymous No.9272249]

>>9272219
"Assume x, then y" is slang for "Whenever you have x, you have y"

[Anonymous No.9272271]

>we're skipping the section on probability but we will be covering hydrostatic pressure problems
Fucking gay

[Anonymous No.9272274]

>let
>proof: exercise
:proof: think

[Anonymous No.9272787]

>>9271954
If whatever you're learning has no real world applications, then it's completely useless and you should probably kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.9272801]

> lecturer says "now lets look at some applications"
> immediately stop paying attention because it won't be assessed

[Anonymous No.9272846]

>let's assume friction doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.9272850]

>Assume ideal conditions

[Anonymous No.9272854]

>>9272846
That would be really great, we could build some crazy shit then.

[Anonymous No.9272860]

>>9272215
You realize what you were shown would have been extremely trivial problems within physics and statistics right? You don't seriously think that at a real world level they are doing things that are that simplistic?

[Anonymous No.9272864]

Education is fucked up. You should start with the real world application and then move onto theory. Elon Musk is working on a new school model I believe where we teach things in the context of application and never just lecture people on shit like calculus in the abstract sense.

[Anonymous No.9272871]

>>9272864
Thats retarded. Nobody would pass. You have no idea how fucked youd be if you had to deal with reality in its rawest corm. Nonlinear systems alone would fuck up studying algebra. You would be a plug n chug monkey.

[Anonymous No.9272875]

>>9272871
Just because you can't figure out a way to teach well doesn't mean others haven't already. Teaching is hard. Now that we have an intelligent person working on it we might get somewhere.

[Anonymous No.9272878]

>>9272846
Gotta understand how forces work before you start applying another force to it

[Anonymous No.9272880]

>>9271954
>"Real world application" is some ridiculously oversimplified and idealised thought experiment that isn't even remotely similar to real world conditions

[Anonymous No.9272881]

>the proof is left as an exercise to the reader

[Anonymous No.9272894]

>>9271954
literally nothing wrong with that

[Anonymous No.9272932]

>assume a frictionless massless object is falling and assume g=10m/s^2

[Anonymous No.9273003]

virgin mathematician vs chad engineer

[Anonymous No.9273008]

>>9272932
> 10 m/s^2
> Implying an engineer wouldn't use 32 ft / s^2

[Anonymous No.9273017]

>assume pi is an interger.

[Anonymous No.9273041]

>>9273008
>imperial units
Not even engineers can be this gay.

[Anonymous No.9273055]

>Assume ideal gas

[Anonymous No.9273068]

>lets assume how atoms looks like
the fucking state of these science cultists

[Anonymous No.9273083]

>>9273041
>Petroleum Engineerimg

[Anonymous No.9273092]

>>9271954
>algebraic topology seminar, we're talking about abstract homotopy theory
>"let's look at a real world application"
>the discussed abstract nonsense can be used to prove that a vector bundle is orientable if and only if a certain composition is nullhomotopic

I fucking love pure math

[Anonymous No.9273156]

>>9273092
>pure math

engineering is the chad of all maths

[Anonymous No.9273218]

>>9272854
How would we build anything? We'd be sliding all over the place?

[Anonymous No.9274820]

>>9272787
You a plumber or something?

[Anonymous No.9274950]

>>9272864
>let's make the youth even more stupid by not teaching them any abstract thinking but just preparing them to be cheap workers

[Anonymous No.9275282]

>>9271957
easy, any application on the imaginary world is isomorphic to one on the real world via a canonical homomorphism

[Anonymous No.9275284]

>>9272274
>proof: see exercise 3.17
>exercise 3.17: prove the theorem

[Anonymous No.9275286]

>>9273092
desu for some reason even this feels too applied for me. Started doing postgraduate in alg top, but fuck mang i just wanna learn pure algebra theory that has no application to other math

[Anonymous No.9275514]

Amen. I hate when my professors say that.
I have the urge to scream that I don't want to be a experimental "physicist" or that I'm not gay (engineer)
Other thing that triggers me
>lets us choose a very small part of the volume dv. But be careful because we're talking about macroscopic objects we cannot forget about the atomic shit etc etc
I DON'T FUCKING CARE GODDAMMIT.
IT'S JUST MATHEMATICS. IN THAT "WORLD" THERE'S NO GAY SHIT LIKE ATOMS. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.9275520]

>>9271954
>let us describe a thought experiment

[Anonymous No.9275534]

I love these threads

[Anonymous No.9275557]

>theorem
>proof: let's look at this example
Fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.9275579]

>>9272787

brainlet detected

think for half a second on how you can tell if something will or will not have applications in the future

[Anonymous No.9275583]

>>9272864
>shit like calculus

actually kys

[Anonymous No.9275599]

>>9275557
>Theorem
>Proof: A full proof is beyond the scope of this text.
>But let's look at a simplified case.

[Anonymous No.9275620]

>>9275557
Theorem
Proof: Left as an Exercise to the reader

[Anonymous No.9275636]

>>9275557
Every fucking time

[Anonymous No.9275653]

>The exercise left for the reader is left as an exercise for the reader

[Anonymous No.9275701]

>a firm is producing widgets

[Anonymous No.9275715]

>>9275701

>in a perfectly competitive market...

[Anonymous No.9275747]

>>9272864
I've seen this idea be put into practice firsthand and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that it doesn't fucking work.

[Anonymous No.9275771]

>>9272864
>Elon musk
Top kek

[Anonymous No.9275850]

>>9272864
> Elon Musk

[Anonymous No.9275865]

>>9275850
>>9275771

Is Elon Musk a meme around here nowadays?

I stopped taking him seriously ever since he said "there's a one in billions chance we're in base reality".

[Anonymous No.9275875]

>>9275865
>"there's a one in billions chance we're in base reality".

[Anonymous No.9275885]

>>9275875
>not buying your anti gay frogs divine extreme mega cool super male brain vitality pill
Do you want to fail your calc 1 class?

[Anonymous No.9275925]

>>9275865
Yes. I'm am proud to announce that he is the new King of pop science

[Anonymous No.9276159]

>>9275865
He's the new Steve Jobs

[Anonymous No.9276249]

>Laminar flow

[Anonymous No.9276281]

>>9275557
>"lets prove this..."
>get boner
> "...using induction."
> barf blood

[Anonymous No.9276298]

>>9275282
>easy, any application on the imaginary world is isomorphic to one on the real world via a canonical homomorphism
The imaginary world isn't homomorphic to an ordered field whereas the real world is, sadly.

[Anonymous No.9276621]

>>9276281
This

[Anonymous No.9276712]

>refer to the standard normal tables