/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9235283]

In your professional opinion, are there animals that are conscious on other planets than earth?

[Anonymous No.9235284]

>>9235283
yes

[Anonymous No.9235290]

yes but I think our type of self awareness is unique

[Anonymous No.9235306]

>>9235283
>professional

I don't think there's many exobiologists on /sci/. However, a statistician could weigh in on this and give us an answer.

[Anonymous No.9235323]

>>9235283

Information processing animals probably occur quite frequently, since habitable planets are pretty common.

If electro-magnetic effects occurring in neurons are responsible for subjective conscious experience, then where ever this re-occurs in the universe, there is consciousness. Could be that when you rub your shirt over a balloon and create static, you just created a field of spontaneous , momentary conscious experience. It wouldn't contain 'information' as such, but just the 'subjectivity'. If this were the case, then perhaps an AI built in a non-electric system might not produce subjective experiences, so life-forms on other planets might be philosophical zombies.

[Anonymous No.9235329]

is this monkey about to be boiled alive in some chinese restaurant?

[Anonymous No.9235357]

>>9235283
Perhaps

[OP the Fag No.9235388]

>>9235283
Consciousness is associated with the multidimensional thinking the beings senses grant it. A worms conscious only senses temperature and vibration for example. Its not aware enough to understand itself as an individual.

[Anonymous No.9235511]

>>9235283
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly, one begins to twos facts to suit theories, rather than theories to suit facts."

--Sir Arthur, Sherlock Holmes

[Anonymous No.9235513]

>>9235306
Statisticians traditionally work with numbers. We have pretty much no numbers on this.

[Anonymous No.9235515]

>>9235511
>twos
>to twist

Not sure what happened there.

[Anonymous No.9235534]

>>9235329
UMA

[Anonymous No.9235582]

>>9235283
It happened here, so it can happen again somewhere, somehow. So yes it's possible.

[Anonymous No.9235733]

>>9235283
in my professional opinion
all of life on earth occurs because some atoms can have incredibly sophisticated reations when combined, over a very narrow temperature band

in the sun, there is a narrow temperature band wherein plasma etc can also have very complicated reactions.

thus the sun is most likely alive, although the life looks nothing like earth life.

dark matter/energy is probably related to the existence of galactic scale lifeforms.

also, there are so many gays and trannies because of environmental toxins and vitamin/mineral deficiencies

you heard it here first folks

[Anonymous No.9235799]

>>9235290
You humans are all the same.

[Anonymous No.9235806]

I'm still trying to figure out if there are conscious animals on earth. If there are, I'm beginning to suspect that I may not be one of then.

[Anonymous No.9235827]

>>9235733

Dude. Fucking TITAN.

Like holy shit man Titan.

Lakes and seas and rivers of liquid methane. Evaporates, forms clouds, and rains back out. While in the atmosphere, photolyses and recombined into long chain hydrocarbon smog that settles to the surface as tar. Plenty of N2 and CO around to make the stuff of life.

So we have a liquid carving through a terrain of complex hydrocarbons, water ice, and ammonia ice. And we have a complex weather system with a chemical and physical state diversity only rivalled by the Earth.

And beneath that outer sludgey crust, is a liquid water ocean with twice as much water as all the earth's oceans.

And we've only mapped like 40% of the surface, and not in very good detail. But the detail we have we see a dynamic surface with disappearing islands and visibly eroding shorelines. All on timescales of the half-titan-year cassini was watching it or less.

I'm working on my phd for this beautiful little moon and feel so fucking lucky.

[Anonymous No.9235898]

>>9235283
Literally no relevant data, only speculation. It remains unknown.