Sun as a Meteor

[Anonymous No.9232099]

Theory: stars are something akin to a Meteor with significantly more material

Why is this retarded

[Anonymous No.9232152]

I think this is a joke but it triggered me anyway

[Anonymous No.9232173]

>>9232099
pic is not a realistic representation.

[Anonymous No.9232176]

>>9232173
Explain why or you lose 4 marks sweetie

[Anonymous No.9232180]

>>9232099
>everything is exactly like everything else but slightly different

[Anonymous No.9232182]

>>9232176
ill take the hit. somebody else will explain it eventually or you can just believe in a fantasy idc

[Anonymous No.9232183]

>>9232176
the orbital plane isn't oriented perpendicularly to the direction of our sun's motion around the galactic centre

[Anonymous No.9232185]

yes, stars hit earth's atmosphere all the time

[Anonymous No.9232187]

>>9232099
In general if you have enough of any light matter (hydrogen and helium mostly) it will eventually have enough pressure to initiate fusion and become a star. What exactly do you mean they are akin to a Meteor though? Just that they move and orbit around other centers of gravity? That much is true of basically everything

[Anonymous No.9232204]

>>9232099
Well... That's not *wrong* per say, but, in the same sense, you're something akin to a meteor with significantly less material (than some).

If you mean to say is it retarded to say, as your animation suggests, that the sun is orbiting the galaxy while the planets follow, then no, that's not retarded, and I dunno why one would assume so.

And yes, the solar orbital plane is angled to the galactic orbital plane about that much. Though a bit closer to not-to-scale pic related.

[Anonymous No.9232257]

>>9232204
So are the planets following the sun or is the orbital plane angled? It's either or.

[Anonymous No.9232262]

>>9232257
It's both. The sun has trapped the planets in its orbital plane and they are along for the ride. That orbital plane just happens to be angled this way now - though it changes slowly over time. ...Potentially quickly, given a big enough gravitational influence, but there's no evidence of that having happened, so far that I know. Well, save for the fact that Uranus is on its side and both it and Venus are spinning on the wrong direction, but that seems more likely due to collisions within the system.

[Anonymous No.9232274]

>>9232262
The planets orbit the sun, they do not follow behind it like ops pic shows.

the tilted ecliptic shows that the planets do not follow behind the sun, because some planets are "in front" of the sun during their orbits. at least this is how i visualized it

[Anonymous No.9232276]

>>9232274
That's not what OP pics shows - freeze frame it. They only appear to be falling behind because of the little trails the CGI artist stuck onto them to indicate movement.

[Anonymous No.9232286]

>>9232276
>not what ops pic shows
yes it is and it's been beaten to death by irl science people

https://www.universetoday.com/107322/is-the-solar-system-really-a-vortex/

[Anonymous No.9232302]

>>9232286
Did you even read the article you just linked?
>Yet I’m not so sure the viral gif does show the Sun leading the planets. Having read through the author’s website, I can’t find any evidence that he suggests this. In fact, some of other videos on his website clearly show that this isn’t the case.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBlAGGzup48
>It seems to me that the appearance of the Sun leading the planets in the gif is just the result of a projection effect – i.e. that things can look different from different angles.

Going frame by frame, it looks to me as though all the planets are maintaining their place in the equator of the solar plane. The idea that they are not seems to be an optical illusion, like the link you just gave suggests, but I suppose I wouldn't be able to prove it definitively without the original 3D model.

[Anonymous No.9233608]

>>9232176
the masses and distances of the planets are enough that the barycenter can be more than 1 solar diameter away from the sun. The planets literally spend much of their time not orbiting the sun. except when the planets are on opposite sides of each other cancelling each other out.

[Anonymous No.9233619]

>>9232176
scale

[Anonymous No.9233631]

>>9232099
Because the definition of a meteor is debris that enters the Earth atmosphere from space.

I think you meant, "asteroid". Which are defined as minor planets and planetoids that orbit a star.

[Anonymous No.9233709]

>>9232176
The sun does not emit a sole yellow laser out of its hind end. The entire sun is a deadly lazer, in all directions.

[Anonymous No.9233754]

>>9232176
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/03/04/vortex_motion_viral_video_showing_sun_s_motion_through_galaxy_is_wrong.html

[Anonymous No.9233758]

>>9233709
>"lazer"
>but it goes in all directions

[Anonymous No.9233764]

>>9233709
The scale is wrong and so are you.

[Anonymous No.9233829]

There is one point that I haven't yet seen in any discussion about the helical motion of the planets. It involves considering that the orientation of the ecliptic poles remain more or less stationary relative to the universe at large as the solar system revolves around the galaxy. The result is, there are times when the solar system's planetary motions are somewhat as shown in the video, as well as times when the motion is perfectly edge-on (a sort of galactic solstice), and we allegorically cut through the galaxy like a flying Frisbee. We just happen to be in that part of our orbit where the orientation is more face-on than at others.

[Anonymous No.9233838]

>>9233829
Could we even tell what the Sun's axial tilt (assuming the ecliptic approximately follows the solar equator, I don't actually know) relative to the galaxy would be? The timescale of the Sun's orbit around the centre of the galaxy is just too huge.

[Anonymous No.9233854]

>>9233838
Current orientation:
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[Anonymous No.9234075]

>>9232099
>Theory: stars are something akin to a Meteor with significantly more material
>Why is this retarded
Because you dismiss entirely the differences in composition, structure, and state of the matter contained in the two objects as well.

[Anonymous No.9234606]

>>9232183
Yes it is flat universe and the suns velocity creates spacetime fabric perpendicular... your brain size is showing because I was just looking at the Stars last night and all the planets follow the same orbit path as the sun, also the sun is moving away from the Orion and moving toward Sagittarius both are located on the Milky Way band, the Milky Way has its own space-time fabric moving in a Direction toward Andromeda. this is why the Earth doesn't roll like a marble with the sun above Antarcticabut instead is perpendicular because of the different gravitational forces

[Anonymous No.9234616]

>>9233709
light is only attracted to Mass

[Anonymous No.9234648]

>>9232099
>Why is this retarded
Meteors are heated by friction and compression of gasses. Stars have some kind of internal energy source for their heat. (We are quite certain we know what it is, in fact.)

[Anonymous No.9234660]

>>9234648
>Our opinion, in fact
>t. Scientist
just the facts please

[Anonymous No.9234827]

>>9232099
>Theory: stars are something akin to a Meteor with significantly more material

Theory: planets are something akin to a Meteor with significantly more material

[Anonymous No.9234985]

>>9234660
>just the facts please
Sure. Like you'd even bother.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Astro/procyc.html

When it's so much easier to listen to your fellow lazy-brains.

[Anonymous No.9235010]

>>9232257
>>9232274
Yeah... the video is just a bit ambiguous due to angle of view, and it cuts just before what I would have assumed it shows the planets and Sun are all on the same average plane.

However, if go to the web site you find out that he does advocate for a "pulling" Sun, and he loses respect. Too bad, because his graphics are otherwise pretty cool in showing the helical nature of the motion of SS through the cosmos.

But the surrounding intragalactic material is also orbiting the center of the galaxy. So the trails would be relative to the universe at large, not the surrounding medium.

And then there's:
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[Anonymous No.9235021]

>>9234606
This almost reads like a BaconRider post.

[Anonymous No.9235032]

>>9235010
i like this one

[Anonymous No.9235410]

>>9235021
I don't know who that is and I don't care to find out but your post reads like something I would here watching The View

I should further explain why Earth doesn't roll like a marble around the sun with the axis pointing toward the Sun at all times. even scientists agree that the Earth is like a giant magnet with the North Pole and South Pole, therefore the Earth in any other planet or star will be pointing toward the strongest magnetic gravitational field on a larger scale exactly like this small magnet does in space microgravity
Space Video Blog: Magnetism: https://youtu.be/NvJcrGlzGAg

[Anonymous No.9235596]

>>9235410
Egads. Another graduate of the self-guided curricula at YouTube U.

[Anonymous No.9235702]

>>9235596
People show symptoms of anger and depression when their belief structures are challenged, that can explain the headche and rationalization of claiming stupidity. That vid is an experiment and visual proof that I sought out to confirm my personal theory of earth's spin. University education is less real than personal curiosity and experimentation. I value people challenging my ideas but not my character. In the modern information age anyone who pays to have someone else tell them what reality is, and believes it only because their peers agree is a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9235738]

>>9235702
The difference is the Earth's mass has rotational energy before it had it's magnetic field. The earth's rotation, the orbital momentum of the planets, and the rotation of most astronomical bodies is dominated by the gravitation collapse of a large gas and dust cloud billions of years ago. Beyond that tidal forces or collisions with other bodies further influence rotational and orbital momentum.

But for tiny ass magnets sure, magnetism wins.

Also, the mechanism that governs that tiny magnet's magnetic field is different from the one that governs the Earth's magnetic field.

[Anonymous No.9235796]

>>9235738
>Also, the mechanism that governs that tiny magnet's magnetic field is different from the one that governs the Earth's magnetic field.

Every single magnetic field is the same, relying on dielectric inertia plane to propagate said magnetism. The only difference is that earths mass is not coherent and aligned like a man made magnet that's had a current induced into it when it was created.

[Anonymous No.9235805]

>>9232099
Counter theory: meteors are stars that are significantly less hot.