Unsafest Engineering

[Anonymous No.9184442]

What's the most unsafe engineered structure or creation by engineers?

My vote is to bellmouth spillways, which no one has ever fallen into and lived to tell the tale. Anyone caught inside one is quickly sucked into a dark cylinder of water many meters tall where a vortex smashes them into a bloody pulp or drowns them with its violent currents. The only way to survive is for it to somehow be dry but then you face a fall of almost 50 meters in height, which is not survivable.

[Anonymous No.9184444]

Pic showing a side-view of the spillway's design, proving that the only thing that awaits you at the end of this dark passageway is a watery grave. There's no way out, no safe escape possible, and nothing to prevent your from a miserable death.

[Anonymous No.9184447]

At some of these spillways, small fences are erected to try to discourage people from jumping in, but to date none of them have any more inherent safety than the others.

[Anonymous No.9184452]

This one gets a special mention, not one but SIX separate drowning chasms to plunge into and find yourself overwhelmed by the deluge of foul waters.

[Anonymous No.9184453]

>>9184452
Forgot to attach the picture.

[Anonymous No.9184479]

>>9184444
>no way out
it's over there on the right

[Anonymous No.9184490]

[Anonymous No.9184492]

>>9184490
and here are some idiots that stuck in while it was dry to use it for skating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7V4il2KIXw

[Anonymous No.9184497]

Why don't they just add some sort of grid on the top? That's fucking retarded and looks pretty spooky

[Anonymous No.9184499]

>>9184497
>why don't we add something that restricts water flow to our overflow system
Maybe think this out a bit more.

[Anonymous No.9184500]

just put the plug back in, idiots

[Anonymous No.9184505]

>>9184499
Make the hole bigger to compensate for it

[Anonymous No.9184506]

>>9184505
>waste more material to prevent darwin award entrants
Nah.

[Anonymous No.9184522]

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Drowning In Spillways Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Swim Away From The Hole Like Nigga Stay Out Of The Water Haha

[Anonymous No.9184523]

>>9184442
How often does that actually happen?
How is it different from waterfalls?
I'd guess the most dangerous thing is an automobile.
But again, the danger, as usual, lies in the operator.

[Anonymous No.9184525]

>>9184523
about thirty people a year die trying to swim across the reservoir at Hoover Dam

[Anonymous No.9184527]

>>9184499
Bullshit. the water travels through a thin layer around the edge, the majority of the cavity is unused open space. It would be trivial to block off the space without restricting the flow.

[Anonymous No.9184557]

>>9184499
>holes stop water

[Anonymous No.9184568]

>>9184522
God he's annoying.
>I've got ideas and ideas are all you need! :DDDDD
Kys, Tyler the Cretin.

[Anonymous No.9184573]

>>9184568
FUCK! YOU!!!!!

[Anonymous No.9184577]

>>9184573
KYS, YOUR VICELAND SHOW IS SHIT, STOP FUCKING UP MUH WEED CHANNEL, MOTHERFUCKER!

[Anonymous No.9184584]

>>9184444

There's shitloads of ways to prevent you from entering it though.

You can't engineer everything to be suicide/idiot proof

[Anonymous No.9184586]

>>9184442
I nominate airplanes, because if you jump out of one while it's flying, you'd die. How the hell did that get approved?

[Anonymous No.9184588]

>>9184453
Why don't they just build a little fence around it lmao

[Anonymous No.9184595]

>>9184586
Hyperloop, if you jumped out of it you'd suffocate as your body was dragged along the track by the momentum really fucking fast, ripping your body into shreds.
Even if you survived the fall, due to the design of the pipe, no one would reach you in time to stop your from suffocating either.
How the hell did that get approved?

[Anonymous No.9184600]

>>9184588
Retards would climb over it.

[Anonymous No.9184603]

Dragon dildos. Have you seen the size of those things? Those are made to masturbate horses, not humans. If you use that shit, welcome to prolapse town.

[Anonymous No.9184619]

>>9184442
I would really like to say guns, but guns are designed to kill. So I really have to say the automobile. In terms of people injured and killed, the automobile completely beats out your bellmouth spillway

>>9184525
>>about thirty people
that's cute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

[Anonymous No.9184622]

>>9184619
i wasn't trying to say it was a lot. i was just providing the answer to the question

[Anonymous No.9184623]

>>9184619
Car deaths are not as metal as human milkshake.

[Anonymous No.9184625]

>>9184586
>>because if you jump out of one while it's flying, you'd die
I don't think you're aware of the sport of skydiving. Passenger planes have doors that won't open while they are in the air so you can't jump out.

>>9184595
and how are you going to jump out of a hyperloop pod?

[Anonymous No.9184630]

>>9184625
>and how are you going to jump out of a hyperloop pod?
With my oxy-fuel cutter?

[Anonymous No.9184637]

>>9184622
that number is a load of bullshit, no way do thirty people die a year swimming across the hoover dam.

>>9184623
OP wanted to know what the most unsafe thing was, not necessarily what the most metal way to die is. Now what isn't metal about dying at the hand of a heavy metal machine powered by burning dead things? We don't see traffic fatalities as metal simply because there are so many of them

[Anonymous No.9184638]

>the most unsafe
Cluster bombs, they leave unexploded ordinance behind that look like pic related, kids pick them up and get their arms blown off etc.

[Anonymous No.9184639]

>>9184442
Eating utensils are shockingly dangerous.
Literally designed to cut through meat.

The worst part is that its used almost daily!

[Anonymous No.9184640]

>>9184630
then you'd die before you even had a chance to jump out of the pod.

[Anonymous No.9184644]

>>9184595
What if they lose cabin pressure. Does everyone just pass out and die?

[Anonymous No.9184648]

>>9184637
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4871722/British-man-swims-Hoover-Dam-reservoir.html
>Some 275 people have died at the Hoover Dam in the last ten years.

[Anonymous No.9184656]

>>9184447
I live close to that one, it's pretty amazing in person.

[Anonymous No.9184660]

>>9184648
Wel notice that it is located near Las Vegas,
howmany of those 275 were suicides?

[Anonymous No.9184662]

>>9184660
No idea. But if someone was going to commit suicide there's probably closer bodies of water to drown in than the Hoover Dam.

[Anonymous No.9184689]

>>9184637
Accept it. Car deaths are the virgin way to go. Cars are made to be safe, and there are laws about speed and shit. You can even have a open coffin funeral, because the head trauma was barely enough to kill you. Jumping into one of those spillways is 100% chad. Good luck having a funeral with some pieces of bloody organic material you can't even distinguish from red guacamole.

[Anonymous No.9184823]

>>9184619
Doesn't make any sense to compare the two statistics, you are just being pedantic.

[Anonymous No.9184856]

>>9184442
Nuclear power plants

[Anonymous No.9185320]

engineering is not about making stupid proof things, if someone is stupid enough to get close to one of those they probably deserve what happens.

[Anonymous No.9185322]

>>9184856
>being this ignorant
Please tell me not all of the fucks here are as stupid as this guy...

[Anonymous No.9185325]

>>9184490


i wanna go down that in an inner tube

[Anonymous No.9185326]

>>9184447
couldnt they just fucking put like a fucking fence over the fucker? water will still go through it.

[Anonymous No.9185329]

>>9185322
>but muh redundancies!

[Anonymous No.9185331]

>>9184619
car crashes are such a mundane way to die, though. With the intelligence level of some people it's amazing that more people don't die than they do already. Every car you pass by in an oncoming lane on a road with no divider and a speed limit above 45 is a chance to die.

[Anonymous No.9185335]

>>9185329
Name one nuclear power-plant incidents that occurred within the United States that resulted in more than 3 deaths.

[Anonymous No.9185338]

>>9185335
Why the US? I was talking about nuclear shit in general.
Lost of nuclear plants here in europe are literally falling apart
http://www.dw.com/en/new-cracks-found-in-tihange-2-belgian-nuclear-power-plant/a-39204539

[Anonymous No.9185340]

>>9185338
Because the shithole countries that are not the United States have very poor regulations regarding nuclear power. People naturally go "HURR HURR CHERNOBYL WAS SUPER BAD, SO NUCLEAR POWER IS SUPER BAD".
No, Chernobyl was caused by idiots in a country with little in the way of safety, disregarding all safety precautions causing a disaster.

But I digress, you literally cannot even name one disaster in the US that killed more than 3 people, yet claim nuclear power is the unsafest system.

[Anonymous No.9185342]

>>9185338
>defund nuclear power
>nuclear plants fall apart because there is no money for maintenance
>"LOOK IT'S UNSAFE WE TOLD YOU SO"
>defund it more

[Anonymous No.9185345]

>>9185342
>>9185340
OP asked for unsafe shit, I posted an example. You literally can't argue with that.
>defund nuclear power
Yeah, that's what happens when a country doesn't need plutonium

[Anonymous No.9185347]

>>9185345
You goal-posted on:
>Name one nuclear power-plant incidents that occurred within the United States that resulted in more than 3 deaths

Your argument is invalid.

[Anonymous No.9185353]

>>9185347

>Name one nuclear power-plant incidents that occurred within the United States that resulted in more than 3 deaths
pic related :^)

[Anonymous No.9185357]

>>9185353
>Nuclear power-plant incidents
>posts non-power plant incidents
You can't even read either?
You are a sad little man.

[Anonymous No.9185362]

>>9185357
OK
I hope you can keep your nuclear scientist job for a few more years
My original post was a bait, I knew that some autists here would catch it

[Anonymous No.9185372]

>>9185362
Lmao, I knew it.

[Anonymous No.9185378]

>>9184527
So a swimmer would be stuck against whatever grate/fence/net you constructed thanks to the insane water pressure you'd get around it. Instead of being sucked into the spillway and killed, you'd be sucked up against the net and drowned.

[Anonymous No.9185382]

>>9184442
Given how many Americans die of heart disease and other obesity-related disorders, I'd say the most unsafe thing ever invented is the TV remote, or maybe the elevator.

[Anonymous No.9185623]

>>9184638
>only the brown kids
and nothing of value was lost-

[Anonymous No.9185634]

>>9184442
>What's the most unsafe engineered structure or creation by engineers?

China.

[Anonymous No.9185641]

>>9185623
kid, pls fuck off back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.9185647]

>>9185326
this guy

[Anonymous No.9185667]

>>9184442

I'm not a scientist but I'm pretty sure going for a swim in the cooling water of a nuclear reactor would be even more dangerous.

[Anonymous No.9185670]

>>9185667
No
https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/05/us/florida-scuba-diver-sucked-into-power-plant-pipe/index.html

[Anonymous No.9185675]

>>9184625
>Passenger planes have doors that won't open while they are in the air so you can't jump out.

Tell that to DB Cooper.

[Anonymous No.9185682]

>>9185378

Still better, at least you could bury them.

[Anonymous No.9185684]

>>9185670
>xkcd

Ask me how I know you're a moron and a cuck.

[Anonymous No.9185746]

>>9184442
Nuclear bomb that is about to explode

[Anonymous No.9185749]

>>9185670
Read the last line. Swimming in nuclear reactor pools is insanely dangerous, albeit not because of the radiation.

[Anonymous No.9185806]

>>9184442
>who needs containment buildings
t. Soviet Union

[Anonymous No.9186012]

>>9184442
Your question is not well defined. How can you do you define unsafe? Is it by the number of people it killed? Then it will be some sort of weapon (atomic bomb, ak47 etc). Is it by how unreliable it is ? ( probably vending machine) is it by how much danger it poses to the operator (car)?

[Anonymous No.9186031]

>>9184447

You forgot to put a sign up

>please don't commit suicide here

fixed

[Anonymous No.9186078]

>>9184638
only happens in slav and african nations so no whites are effected by it.

[Anonymous No.9186081]

>>9186031
barbara streissand effect then. it gives people a new idea they never had.

[Anonymous No.9186091]

>>9184492
>idiots
they're geniuses

[Anonymous No.9186159]

>>9185378
Thus making them just SLIGHTLY more likely to survive, and also preventing the body from ruining the water if it's being used for other purposes (I'm not an expert, I don't know if they usually bother with recycling dam overflows)

[Anonymous No.9186179]

>>9186031
This honestly is reverse psychlogy.
the people that would reas that will think "this must be a good way of suicide since it pushed them to make a signe just to warn them."

A good signe will be " DANGER! 50 meters deep hole" or something along that because i still feel it could be better.

[Anonymous No.9186190]

>>9184492
>idiots.
they were cool. the kind of men who advance civilization.

[Anonymous No.9186302]

>>9184442
Paternoster elevators.
They don't stop moving even if they are crushing you against the floor / ceiling because you didn't get all the way in or out

[Anonymous No.9186329]

>>9184442
>>9184523
people die from the drop.
You freefall like 150 feet straight down and land on a big concrete bend that turns the spillway 90 degrees. It's like jumping off a giant waterfall that only has a few feet of rushing whitewater at the bottom

[Anonymous No.9186464]

>>9185641
>>9185623
>Implying that anything of value was actually lost

[Anonymous No.9186484]

>>9184527
For a major flood event more of the pipe cross section is used, also if debris gets caught in the grating it could mean emergency spill ways have to be used. Using the emergency spill ways for prolonged times is usually bad, and can erode the dam foundation.

Most of the spillways or suctions from dams I've seen were posted with signs on bouys to keep boaters and swimmers away. Since the operation of the spillways during flooding is so important the cost benefit analysis shows a few retards dying is worth the safety of those downstream during an unlikely worst case flood.

https://youtu.be/dHpKvQ9XHV4
Cool video in potato vision of a dam spillway repair.

[Anonymous No.9186486]

>>9186302
They are really cool to look at though so that's consolation

[Anonymous No.9186517]

>>9186179
I'm always thinking this when someone starts a thread with "no trolling please" thinking it could only backfire, but for some reason it never does.

[Anonymous No.9186529]

>>9184442
Literally what is stopping them from putting a grate on it?

[Anonymous No.9186531]

>>9186529
They don't any construction workers who would get close to that thing.

[Anonymous No.9186542]

>>9185353
>A fucking burst pipe

[Anonymous No.9186577]

>>9184442
why should we sacrifice efficient design to accommodate the chance a retard will injure himself?

I say let the retards kill themselves, its good for the populations genetic hygiene.

[Anonymous No.9186706]

>>9184442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k4Xk1mEwmI

[Anonymous No.9186710]

Every fucking running machine before people realized that some workplace safety is maybe not the worst idea.

[Anonymous No.9186725]

>>9184619
Why did we ever bother to change the design of the cars of 1900, they were clearly much safer

[Anonymous No.9186735]

>>9186329
Nice try but I've played enough video games to know that you only take damage from landing on flat surfaces.

[Anonymous No.9186741]

>>9186706
jesus fucking christ
my palms are sweaty from watching that

[Anonymous No.9186750]

>>9186529
I guess because it would get all gunked up with debris that couldn't fit through the grate meaning they would have to hire people to go out and clean it

[Anonymous No.9186780]

>>9186302
Reminds me of an incident last year.

>23yo girl wants to dispose of garbage container on the lower floor
>Pushed -1 button
>Garbage container wasn't completly inside
>Tips over and crushes her between the back wall of the elevator
Obviously this was an old elevator that did have sensors at the door and should've been decommissioned.

[Anonymous No.9186807]

>>9186706
If I had to choose between having that job for the rest of my life and being killed on the spot with a flamethrower, I'd not hesitate to choose the latter.

[Anonymous No.9186858]

1/50 of all deaths are traffic related, so cars.

[Anonymous No.9187653]

>>9184442
>What's the most unsafe engineered structure or creation by engineers?
pic related

[Anonymous No.9187675]

>>9187653
Are you referring to skyscrapers, jetliners, or Islam?

[Anonymous No.9187679]

>>9184442
These pieces of shit right here. It's like when they were designing them they thought to themselves "how about we make the most cumbersome and spill prone gas canister and call it safer just because it has a locking feature that breaks after the third use and doesn't have a bendy spout". I don't know anyone that likes them and have heard horror stories of how unsafe these things are compared to the old style gas cans.

[Anonymous No.9187686]

>>9184619
Automotive safety regulations might be one of the greatest successes of government regulation. It's really pretty impressive how far we've come, and we're on the verge of addressing pedestrian safety.

Of course, reducing car trips would be technologically easier.

[Anonymous No.9187687]

>>9187679
Can't be any worse than ye olden days when they made glass gas canisters. If those things broke not only did you have a massive fire hazard but also broken glass everwhere.

[Anonymous No.9187690]

>>9184856
But anon those are some of the safest.

[Anonymous No.9187703]

>>9186710
lmao what are you talking about? regulations r killing are industry!!!!

Pic related, you can pay kids less because you can tell them they don't need shoes to operate heavy machinery. Underdeveloped critical thinking skills = underdeveloped overhead.

[Anonymous No.9187709]

>>9185667
But that would be extremely difficult to intentionally do, let alone accidentally, so it's safe.

Even the water facilities store waste in is so deep, that there's plenty of water depth to swim in before risking some kind of injury. You'd be more likely to drown in it before you had an issue with nuclear shit.

Pic related. I've been there. The pool is so deep, and water so good at blocking radiation, falling in would really be no big deal unless you drowned, or managed to swim to the bottom. That's the pool where they keep spent fuel rods until the federal government gets off its ass.

[Anonymous No.9187715]

>>9185675
But that door was intentionally designed to allow covert jumps over Vietnam.

[Anonymous No.9187717]

>>9185806
They had bigger issues than not having a containment building.

Namely, incompetence.

[Anonymous No.9187731]

>>9186577
This. I've honestly never given a fuck about suicide prevention. I'd rather they get pulverized in one of these things or lost in the San Francisco bay than have them blow their brains out/neck themselves/slit their wrists in a closet to have their loved ones walk in on them.

[Anonymous No.9187748]

>>9187731
what about the inevitable OSHA intervention when people keep getting sucked up in your death hole?

[Anonymous No.9187755]

>>9184490
Spooky

[Anonymous No.9187757]

>>9187748
Obviously that's not the world we live in, but I don't see the point in putting grates over these things. It doesn't do anything to actually prevent suicide, and it would hamper with their function.

Obviously warnings need to be in place to prevent accidents, but you don't need grates for that.

[Anonymous No.9187777]

>>9186706
How did they even build this thing?

[Anonymous No.9187799]

>>9186464
watch your edge there
might cut yourself

[Anonymous No.9187809]

>>9185684
(you)
do you feel better now?

[Anonymous No.9187814]

>>9184662
People die at the hoover dam by jumping, not necessarily drowning.

[Anonymous No.9187822]

>>9186706
Beautiful.

[Anonymous No.9188093]

>>9186706
So many aspects of that freak me out. Imagine making it all the way to the top and then something going wrong causing it to start transmitting and microwaving you on the spot.

[Anonymous No.9188147]

>>9184442
who're you working for, jew? What technology are you trying to sell us here by shitting on spillways?

[Anonymous No.9188151]

>>9186706
whats so special about that?
at 300 feet and up you die just the same

[Anonymous No.9188152]

>>9184619
Cars kill because people use them a lot. By that argument, a house is the most dangerous thing, whereas bungee jumping is safe. To get a meaningful danger statistic, you have to divide the frequency of accidents by some sort of usage factor.

[Anonymous No.9188155]

>>9186706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40F8mALRukA

[Anonymous No.9188185]

>>9186706
now i have to think of that /diy/ thread made by a worker that had to do this

>there are workers sabotaging safety instalation to slow down other workers because the fastest worker gets the money.

[Anonymous No.9188187]

>>9188185
>there are workers sabotaging safety instalation to slow down other workers because the fastest worker gets the money.
Wait, what?

[Anonymous No.9188211]

>>9184600
And regular people would get a second chance... so what's your point?

[Anonymous No.9188231]

>>9184447
two words
>concrete grates

[Anonymous No.9188235]

>>9187777
Usually on its side and then raise it with cables

[Anonymous No.9188239]

>>9188151
It's more of a reference to how they are freeclimbing. Also height does matter, because the difficulty goes up as a square of the distance in some sense because you get more tired and also have to climb down that same distance

[Anonymous No.9188241]

Tunnel construction is one of the most dangerous fields of work.

[Anonymous No.9188248]

>>9185634
China wasn't created by engineers, though. It was created by incompetent bureaucrats, monopolized state capitalists with no checks and balances, and a blistering inferiority complex.

[Anonymous No.9188269]

>>9187679
I second this shit. They put the vacuum relief hole in the spout too which is all sorts of retarded. The one in your pic has it on the top of the spout, which is a little better, but i shit you not the ones i have have the relief on the bottom of the spout. Its actually worse than not having a relief at all. I have two 5 gallon cans like this at home, and the “safety” lock broke on one of them. Ironically the one with the broken lock spills a lot less gas and is a lot easier to pour. Whoever designed these should be hanged.

[Anonymous No.9188276]

>>9187679
When it's full, the slightest movement or change in inclination will cause the entire volume to press against the opening and gush out in a wild torrent. When it's below half full, you have to almost turn it upside down for any liquid to reach the funnel and awkwardly support it with both hands and your knees.

Perfect design.

[Anonymous No.9188279]

>>9188155
but this guy isn't "free climbing" as the other video showed

[Anonymous No.9188296]

>>9188279
Why don't they parachute from the tower?

[Anonymous No.9188325]

>>9187709
How hard is it to swim in those suits? Because i have a feeling if someone fell into some deep water wearing that suit the possible radiation is the last thing he should be worrying about.

[Anonymous No.9188326]

>>9188296
I`m a climber not a base jumper, also you might get caught on the guy wires or might crash into the tower itself, it`s windy up there.

[Anonymous No.9188329]

>>9188326
They should give you wing suits so you can glide down if you fall or when youre done. I must assume he's getting paid a lot of money. After my first job I'd buy myself a parachute

[Anonymous No.9188340]

>>9185353
>>9185357
>>9185362
>>9185372

http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1986/Surry-Has-Most-Deaths-Among-Power-Plants/id-8d6f29cdb1310d0bfa3f044d7fa752a7
"''It's been bad luck at Surry,'' Virginia Power spokesman Jim McDonald said Tuesday in Richmond. ''All of these accidents could have taken place at Mount Storm, too, which is a coal plant. None of them are nuclear-related.''"

The idaho falls incident is, perhaps, unfairly called an reactor "accident" because there is some pretty damning evidence that it was actually a murder suicide with a bystander casualty.

[Anonymous No.9188341]

>>9188329
Climbing up in a wingsuit would be awkward, extra weight is a nightmare. You want to be light and agile as possible. I have never seen anyone jump after job is finished because it's dangerous and illegal.

[Anonymous No.9188383]

>>9187675
>Islam

Inside job*

[Anonymous No.9188431]

>>9187777
Raise the first hundred or so feet with a crane, then build a ginpole on top and raise each new section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWpsXdAjkxk

[Anonymous No.9188526]

>>9186780
Thanks for reminding me of this.

[Anonymous No.9189039]

>>9186706
They say free climbing is much more faster.

Since they have two people climbing couldn't they have it so the first guy attached a safety cable that attached to him and his partner. Climb up until his partner reaches the height of the safety cable. Then his partner detaches the safety cable. While he is doing this the first guy attaches a second safety cable. Have it so the cables retract back to the first guy when the partner detaches them. So he will be attaching the cables 1 then 2 then 1 then 2 so on and so on. While the partner detaches 1 then 2 then 1 so on and so on.

Meaning the first guy will only have to attach safety cables which he can do pretty fast and his partner only has to to detach safety cables which he could do fast. When they climb down they just switch rolls.

[Anonymous No.9189092]

>>9188276
This happened to me while I was pouring gas into a small 2-stoke tank. It came out with so much pressure that the tank instantly filled and shot gas all over my face and shirt (luckily I was already wearing safety glasses because it was a weed wacker I was pouring into). I lost half a tank and two stroke oil got all over me and the driveway, but other than the burning on my cheeks I came out okay.

[Anonymous No.9189318]

>>9186329
Would you survive if you somehow stick to the left side and use like a giant water slider?

[Anonymous No.9189363]

>>9184442
This is what we call "unintended functions " in engineering strategies and practices. It's not a failure, it's a feature: preventing overflow while getting rid of retards.
See? We engineers think of everything.