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Why do you guys deny race realism

>> No.9143732

Why do you deny being a bitter virgin

>> No.9143733

>>9143727
>these eyes don't lie baby - alberb instin

>> No.9143737

go home leftypol
no falseflagging

>> No.9143749

>>9143727
Phenotype
Genotype
These two elude you it seems.

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>>9143732
>>9143733
>>9143737

>> No.9143757

>>9143749
Biological taxonomy is based on phenotypes.

>> No.9143758

>>9143757
Top kek

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>> No.9143762

>>9143749
>phenotypes and genotypes aren't related

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>> No.9143765

>>9143727
Because most leftists nowadays are Evolution Deniers.

>> No.9143766

>>9143758
Sorry kid, but but biological taxonomy precedes genetics by over a century. All work work on classification so far have been based on phenotypes, and we don't even have the genomes of the vast majority of species, not to mention that it's impossible to get the genomes of many extinct animals.

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>> No.9143771

>>9143761
> source: the college board
kek

>> No.9143775

>>9143727
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism

knock yourself out

>> No.9143777

>>9143775
>https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism
Why even bother? No one would take conservapedia seriously, and no-one should take "ration"wiki seriously. Just fuck off to plebbit with this dumb shilling.

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>>9143775
>rationalwiki

>> No.9143791

the real mccoy

>> No.9143802

>>9143777
>>9143781
>you can't trust rationalwiki, now argue with my infographics and memes I got from /pol/
Not an argument. /pol/tards BTFO

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>>9143802

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>> No.9143823

>>9143727
Because I understand genetics

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24032721

>> No.9143825

>>9143802
So you can't make any arguments yourself, drop a link to a known biased website and get butthurt when your idiocy is pointed out?
This board isn't for you, new arrival.

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>>9143761

>> No.9143831

>>9143823
>>9143757

>> No.9143833

>>9143825
Making "arguments" on 4chan is not going to change objective reality.

Science is not a liberal conspiracy, you're just a moron who thinks memes and emotional politics are better than science.

>> No.9143837

>>9143831
Taxonomy is based on genetics.

>> No.9143839

>>9143837
It isn't.
>>9143766

>> No.9143844

>>9143829
>red: what reddit sees
>green: what reddit wants to ignore

>> No.9143845

>>9143839
Yes, it is.

>> No.9143849

>>9143727
tis funny, the cyclical nature of the more populist 4chan. When i first came, for me it was the race debate, then IQ, then consciousness, then psychology, now back to race again.

>> No.9143850

>>9143845
Good argument.

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>>9143839
Blacks are closer to chimps.

>> No.9143857

The arguments against race are circular and would imply evolution doesn't exist. Race is the precursor to subspecies.

It's kind of funny, liberals call themselves so rational but lose it when race or cultural issues come up that go against their values.

>> No.9143858

>>9143850
Just read about the history of taxonomy. The idea of phenotype classification is crazy outdated. It's all about genetic ancestry now.

>> No.9143859

>>9143853
No they aren't. Humans and chimpanzees have a different number of chromosomes, and different number and set of genes than humans. Not to mention that chimps have almost three times the total genetic diversity of humans.

All humans have the same genes and same number of chromosomes. Except for /pol/ raiders. I think they have an extra one.

>> No.9143860

>>9143853
Incas were superior to europeans.

>> No.9143861

>>9143857
The funny thing is that a decade ago, the right was more associated with creationism. Now it's the left.

>> No.9143863

>>9143857
Nope. White people are going extinct anyway. Face your replacement.

>> No.9143865

>>9143857
The problem is that YOU believe race is real because it is only skin deep. You believe that because we see visual differences we must be very different.

You just refuse to understand genetics. Our visual appearance is dictated by a very small percent of our genes. You can't sequence someone's genome by looking at them. When you do get DNA samples from lots of people all over the world and sequence their genomes, the truth is revealed.

The problem is that you believe science is a liberal conspiracy against you and everyone is lying.

>> No.9143866

>>9143859
It's not about the karyotype that I am talking about.

>> No.9143868

>>9143754
>be white
>take IQ test
>score 130
>must be very smart cause of white heritage

>be black
>take IQ test
>score 130
>IQ tests are in inaccurate measure of intelligence

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>>9143866
>karyotype
Neither was I. At least you got something out of your high school biology class.

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you guys are all posting in a Nazi thread.

>> No.9143877

>>9143875
Not all racists are nazis.

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>>9143875
>anyone I don't like is nazis reeeeee
>I'm not a nazi I just worship Hitler and think we need national socialism!
>also I'm not a racist, I'm a race realist!

>> No.9143880

>>9143865

You're assuming that those differences all have equal weight or significance instead of a subgroup which can be tied to race have greater importance.

You're doing white box verse black box understanding without actually understanding the internal workings of genetics sufficiently to do white box.

Occams Razor, which liberals seem dedicated to rejecting.

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>> No.9143882

The correct name for this thread should be: Why do you guys deny Evolutionary Biology?

>> No.9143884

>>9143880
There is no Occams Razor here. You are making an assumption that somehow skin color is an indicator for any other genetic trait you want, and you refuse to understand or listen to genetic evidence itself.

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>>9143878

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>>9143879
>implying that nazism is wrong

>> No.9143887

>>9143868
Learn to read distributions pls

>> No.9143888

>>9143825
>So you can't make any arguments yourself
What does "making arguments myself" prove? Does it somehow make your posts any more valid or less biased that you've saved your memes on your hard-drive instead of linking to them? What a retarded thing to say. Its nothing but a waste of time with you retards.

>> No.9143889

>>9143884
Race is different from skin color and you know that. Abbos and the Sub-Saharan ethnic groups have a dark skin tone but they are completely different races.

>> No.9143890

>>9143811
>Race
This belongs in a ylyl

>> No.9143892

>>9143882
Just because evolution exists doesn't mean human evolution occurred how you claim it did.

Humans only left Africa about 100 kya, and there is evidence for at least two large scale events, one of them being the Toba event, that drastically bottlenecked human populations. That drastically reduced human genetic diversity. From there, we only lost more diveristy has humans migrated due to a series of founder effects.

By the times humans left Africa, we were already making tools and clothing which allowed us to overcome a lot of environmental challenges.

The only thing about humans that "evolved" are parts of our immune system, as well as skin. Most changes, even those in visual appearance, can be explained by genetic drift.

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>>9143884
>>9143879
>>9143865
>>9143859
>>9143829
>>9143823
Find a flaw
Protip:you can,t

>> No.9143895

>>9143892
>The only thing about humans that "evolved" are parts of our immune system, as well as skin.

And the intellectual faculties...

>> No.9143899

>>9143895
Also bone density (niggers can't swin well), some cranial characteristics, hability to digest milk etc.

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>>9143899
I like how you leave out dick size

>> No.9143902

>>9143727
Anyone have the response meme to this with the water and oranges?

>> No.9143905

>>9143884

Skin color is tied to other genetic traits and historically the line was even more distinct so we know race has a greater effect outwardly. It's not unreasonable to think it would also express itself in mental ability and personality of the population.

Occams razor is very relevant here, one position is going out of their way to make convoluted arguments that deny the most direct explanations because they dislike them on principle.

Ex: Blacks look different, act different, perform differently yet it's really a great white conspiracy and in fact they really the same because of this circular logic that perceiving differences is artificial and if we didn't have the ability to classify black people as black race wouldn't exist.

It's ridiculous.

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>> No.9143912

>>9143905
>Skin color is tied to other genetic traits
Really makes you think

>> No.9143913

>>9143905
>t's not unreasonable to think
Assumption.

>> No.9143915

>>9143912
The brain is actually largely irrelevant to cognitive ability. The skin does most of the thinking.

>> No.9143919

The problem with blacks is not their skin color but with their violent behavior.

>> No.9143922

>>9143919
Yea, this is why need to kill them all, race war now amirite?

vroom vroom, praise Breivik

/pol/ is a board of peace

>> No.9143925

>>9143922
Au contraire.

>> No.9143932

>>9143727
Dude, you get your facts from /pol/ info graphs. Do you honestly think any serious scientist is going to waste their time with you? Go read a book and then come back.

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>/pol/ comes into /sci/
>berates /sci/ for months demanding proof of racism
>doesn't receive proof
>calls /sci/ elitists
>searches web for flimsy previously disprove scientific arguments that race is real
>SEE! I TOLD YOU RACISM IS REAL!!

If you try hard enough you can prove anything is real. Real science can't be done with any form of prejudices, which is why science done by racists will always be thrown out and dismissed. They're prejudice, bias, and therefor inherently incapable of making scientific deductions.

but seriously, STOP THIS SHIT ALREADY AND GO BAK2POL
make a circle jerk thread on /pol/ about the science of race if you need this so badly

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>>9143942

>> No.9143946

>>9143943
Aryan Master Race lol

>> No.9143950

>>9143943
I'm a latino shitskin. Posting retarded neonazis is not going to work.

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This is a video about race and intelligence that youtube tried to censor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJNVb0GnPI

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>>9143950
>>9143946
>>9143943
>>9143942
>>9143938
>>9143932
>>9143922
>>9143893
Not an agruement

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>>9143942
>>9143943
>posting random pics as proof of anything, ever

Maybe someone should do a study on how stupid people look correlates to race?
I wonder what the distribution is?

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>>9144001
and compare it with the smart people.

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>>9143727

>> No.9144026

>>9144014
kek. OP eternally BTFO

>> No.9144040

>>9144012
I wonder (((why)))

>> No.9144060

>>9144040
Because black inventors are more likely to have African American next to their name than white inventors are to have American next to their name?

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>>9144040
you may be right

>> No.9144092

>>9143727
Species designation is based on the ability to reproduce together.