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9097715 No.9097715 [Reply] [Original]

We're dead for sure edition

>> No.9097732

>Climate Change
back to >>>/x/ please

>> No.9097741

>>9097732
>conspiracy theorist tells someone else to go to /x/

>> No.9097809

What's so special about 2C? Why is everyone so fired up about that number?
This is why:
https://youtu.be/Mc_4Z1oiXhY?t=17m45s

>> No.9097824

>that time when capitalism destroyed the whole planet

But at least they had 100s of Andriod smartphones to choose from!

>> No.9097826

2 degrees? LOL

>> No.9097831
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>>9097809
mostly because of this

>> No.9097858

>>9097809
He assumes a tipping point caused by the clathrate gun hypothesis though. There really is no scientific consensus on how much of an effect it will have. IIRC recent studies have found the methane being consumed and turned into CO2 before reaching the surface so we may be off the hook for that. It's still not pretty either way but it's not quite armageddon.

>> No.9097880

Why nobody ever accounts cyanobacteria in these models?

>> No.9097915

European here, how severe will be the climate change effects in Europe?

>> No.9097922

>>9097915
>European here, how severe will be the climate change effects in Europe?
Direct effects negligible, but indirectly you'll get a few million climate refugees due to direct effects closer to equatorial countries.

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>>9097915

>> No.9097927
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>>9097915
this

>> No.9097945

>>9097715
>climate change
>on a board about math and science

>> No.9097962

>>9097927
How can there be deserts next to the mediterranean sea?

>>9097922
Do you think this will lead to people coming into power who dont mind shooting refugees?

>> No.9097967

>>9097962
>Do you think this will lead to people coming into power who dont mind shooting refugees?
No, Europeans love refugees unconditionally.

>> No.9097982

>>9097858
>clathrate gun hypothesis
No he doesn't.
Just permafrost releasing CH4 and CO2
+ the warmed sea water releasing CO2.

btw, when CH4 breaks down you get more CO2

CH4 + 2 O2 --> CO2 + 2 H2O

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>>9097915
The subtropics (latitude 23.5...40) will have terrible droughts, about 50-75% of the rain will be lost.

>> No.9097989

>>9097927
>no one knows exactly what will this world look like, here is our worst-case scenario.

>> No.9097992

>>9097967
only if you are a western European
t. greek

>> No.9097994

>>9097962
>How can there be deserts next to the mediterranean sea?
>>9097988

>> No.9098049

>>9097809
He was wrong about the SRM part, wasn't he?
7 Years have passed and we hear nothing about Solar Radiation Management, or Geoenigneering in general

>> No.9098108

>>9098049
the problem with srm is that it blocks visible light along with IR, that might affect crop sizes

>> No.9098148

>>9097962
If people who want to mass execute refugees come into power, chances are they'll also be fine with mass executing citizens. It'll be a dark time for all, but much worse for many.

>> No.9098229

>>9097826
>denialist can't into understand

>> No.9098230

>>9097962
>How can there be deserts next to the mediterranean sea?
What is North Africa?

>> No.9098341

>>9097824
>Capatalism

If anything it would have been the one to save it, had anyone actually cared. Capatalism incentivises efficiency at all levels.

>> No.9098480

>>9097715
>ITT Idiots that don't realize higher temps will be a net positive for humanity, causing more rain and more farmable land.

Only draw back is <80IQ africans raping europe

>> No.9098543

>>9098229
Americans don't understand 2°C is almost 36°F.

>> No.9098559

>>9098543
3°C is basically 400°F

>> No.9098564

>>9098543
2°C is like 3°F

>> No.9098622
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9098622

This graph proves we could have thousands of times more CO2 in the air than we do now and there will never be a catastrophic runaway greenhouse effect. Earth's maximum possible average temperature is 22 degrees which isn't enough to kill anything.
Even if it really is happening and it is our fault climate change is not the disaster alarmists say it is.

>> No.9098735

>>9098622
More like CO2 is not the disaster alarmists say it is.
>More CO2
>More trees and shit
>Less CO2
>the problem is pollution and smog or whatever, acidifying waters and stuff

>> No.9098743

>>9097732
I thought climate change was a real scientific fact and anyone who disputed it should be jailed ;)

>> No.9098748

>>9097927
That is wrong on so many levels. Did whoever made not understand basic climate?

>> No.9098820

>>9098543
0C is 32F
climate change is imperialist shenanigans

>> No.9099131

>>9098748
t. cock-sure idiot

>> No.9099133

>>9098735
>>More CO2
droughts
less trees and shit
more fires

>> No.9100750

>>9098622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpF48b6Lsbo&t=557s&index=19&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP

You're leaving out important context. Of the two studies that Monckton mashed together in order to create this graph, one doesn't speak about correlation between CO2 and temperature while the other does, specifically the paper "Geocarb III: A Revised Model of Atmospheric CO2 over Phanerozoic Time". The thing is, this paper says that there is a correlation between the CO2 and temperature. What Monckton failed to account for when he mashed the graphs together is the increasing of solar radiation from the sun, which was accounted for in the paper he cited yet did not read.

>> No.9101181

>>9097715
Is climate change a soft science like sociology?

>> No.9101183

>>9101181
No, actually climate science is basically physics, chemistry and biology plus computational models and programming

>> No.9101791

just pump sulfur dioxide onto the atmosphere nigger, detonate all active volcanoes

>> No.9101826

Pah, 252 million years ago CO2 levels and temperature levels were way higher than today and life carried on just fine, give or take a few dozen phyla.

>> No.9101847

>>9101826
252 million years ago there was no fragile human society that relied on a food industry that itself relied on stable climate conditions to be able to keep billions from starvation

>> No.9101970

>>9097715
1.5C is why the 1st world should disband and give all white women to africa? Wow.

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>>9101847
you're missing the sarcasm. he's referring to the P-Tr extinction.

>> No.9102103

what's the relation between nuclear winter and climate change? what effect will nukes have when taking climate change into consideration?

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>>9101826
>>9102092

Are you implying that any rise in temperature is dangerous even though the majority of the last 600 million had average global temperatures at 25°C?

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>>9101183
>computational models and programming

>> No.9102184

>>9102134
The problem is not the rise in temperature but the rate of change in the temperature, it will probably affect agriculture and echo-system a hell lot.

>> No.9102623

>>9102184
I was addressing the claim that a rise in temperature automatically leads to an extinction level event like the one bordering the Permian and Triassic Eras despite the overall average global temperature, over a period of 600 million years, was approximately 10°C warmer than it is now and that there were other factors like volcanic ash causing a nuclear winter.

>> No.9102718

>>9097922
Only if they let them in.

>> No.9102720

>>9097927
Science fiction.

>> No.9102722

>>9098229
Skeptic.

>> No.9102725

>>9098622
It never has been. It's always been about the money.

>> No.9102727

>>9101181
It's pseduo science.

>> No.9102736

>Earth was warm in the past
Yeah but there was no industrial civilisation back then. Combine climate change with effects like deforestation, desertification, euthrophication, pollution etc. and you got a disaster in your hands.