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9051667 No.9051667 [Reply] [Original]

Brehs, I want to study engineering, but I can't decide which type. I've narrowed it down to
>electrical and electronic
>civil
>petroleum
Wut do?

>> No.9051694
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9051694

>having the capability to study petroleum engineering and not doing it
>petroleum
>the substance modern society runs off of
nah anon, become a civil engineer. So little kids can take shits.

>> No.9051696

>>9051694
>modern society
>modern
But anon, shouldn't you be more worried about what future society is going to run off of?

>> No.9051730

>>9051696
Until everybody born after the year 1980 dies, it's petroleum. Oil barons will buy out and suppress studies of alternative energy until they can't anymore AKA die of old age.
Why do you think Elon Musk swapped from eletric cars to lets go to Mars? Only one of those things runs on fuel and not electricity.

>> No.9051735

>>9051667
Petroleum = best paid engineering job during oil boom however no jobs & layoffs during oil crisis (as during now)

Electrical and electronic = 2nd best starting pay , with the hardest level of math & physics, with this degree you can also get a software engineering job. You have to love & be very good at Math, Physics & Programming.

Chemical = 2nd best mid-career pay but also the hardest class & lab workload. You have to love & be very good at Chemistry. You will work in Chemical Industry.

Civil = Glorified Architect. You will be involved with Political Corruption. Brainlet level of Math & Physics. You have to love & be very good at
manage people, socialize, "do it yourself" stuff & love stuff like wood, concrete & dirt. A Master or PhD degree is required to be allowed to design high Skyscrapers & Bridges.

>> No.9051741

>>9051735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdQ8dvMbCm8

>> No.9051750

>>9051667
Do life engineering, aka medicine. You'll make 400k being an aneasthetist consultant.

>> No.9051752

EE is the most diverse, most applicable for everyday shit (easily do EE projects in your house compared to others), and has some black magic in it.

>> No.9051782

Depends, are you into
twinks, bears, otters, circuit queens, chubs, pups, gipsters, or Donald Ducks?

>> No.9051792

>>9051752
>black magic in it.
What do you mean?
>>9051782
Fucking kek.
>>9051735
Some of you guys really don't like civil engineers, huh.

>> No.9051798

I did EE but looking back on it I wish I did civil. Civil is low stress high pay and constantly in demand in larger cities.

>> No.9051805

>>9051798
But what about EE?

>> No.9051807

>>9051805
Its okay but it is kinda hard to find the job you like, I ended up moving to NYC and just doing Java development lmao

>> No.9051814

Not OP, but in torn between mechanical and ee. Redpill me on both

>inb4 le engineer brainlet only math phd or bust

>> No.9051841

>>9051667
i'm doing ee (electronic) personally because it seems most useful in day-to-day life, and because all the parts of physics i find interesting are contained in ee

if u want fat stacks then petroleum

>> No.9051842

I am in chemical engineering and its pretty good. It is also known as "universal engineering" because you can work in a vast array of services.

>> No.9052223

If you would take civil and petroleum but not computer, you may have fallen for /sci/ memes.

>> No.9052311

if you want a job pick civil, electrical, mechanical, or computer. chemical is legitimate, but the chem industry is shit now

stay away from meme-engineering fields

>> No.9052499

>>9052311

Why is OP writing off Mech?

Easily the comfiest engineering field, regarding both college workload and job market.

>> No.9052501

>>9051667
Electrical is the most future proof of all of these. But if you want to stack paper go petroleum and work for the Saudis.

>> No.9052503

>>9051730
>Until everybody born after the year 1980 dies
...human extinction?

>> No.9052515

>>9051667
Civil currently has the best job market but they all shift around. EE has a shitty job market because it unironically suffers from pajeets taking jobs and unlike CS where that also happens, EE has stagnant job growth. Petroleum is literally "$ when oil good, no $ when oil bad" so you should do ChemE instead of PetroE so you can still do oil but at least have options when its fucked.

>> No.9052523

>>9051667
Civil currently has the best job market but they all shift around. EE has a shitty job market because it unironically suffers from pajeets taking jobs and unlike CS where that also happens, EE has stagnant job growth so it can't offset it. Petroleum is literally "$ when oil good, no $ when oil bad" so you should do ChemE instead of PetroE so you can still do oil but at least have options when its fucked. CivE have beow average pay for engineering (although it gets very high in management positions), ChemE/PetroE has the highest (but purely because of oil) and EE has second highest. However since job markets shift around you should just figure out which one you enjoy the work of the most and do that one.

>> No.9052526

>>9051752
CivE is the most diverse dingus, this isn't even debateable. CivE has 5-6 different subfields that all are in demand and EE has like 2-3 which are all stagnant in job growth

>> No.9052548

>>9052526
What are you talking about? At my mid tier uni there were 8 specializations for EE undergrad, 7 were good, 1 was extinct with nobody really taking it. At my grad school right now there are 15 different areas to pick from. There are plenty of applications of EE and many people I know get job offers/interest without even applying and before graduating. 95% of graduates either got a job or were going onto more schooling.

>> No.9052591

>>9052515
>Petroleum is literally "$ when oil good, no $ when oil bad"

Civil is literally: "$ when construction boom, no $ when construction/housing bubble."

>Civil currently has the best job market
Until Cyclical Hosing Bubbles. Where there are massive layoffs & all jobs disappear.

Just like Petroleum Engineering

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>>9052591 >>9052515 >>9052526
Seems that nobody remember the last Real estate bubble in USA & Ireland. From 2007–2009.

When many CivilE lost their Jobs & Recent Graduates could not find any Job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_housing_bubble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_property_bubble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_bubble

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>>9051841 >>9051798 >>9051805 >>9051735 >>9052599
Everybody Forgot about the Dot-com bubble
(aka NASDAQ Bubble or Internet Bubble)
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble

When most Electrical & Software Engineers lost their Jobs, becoming Unemployed. & Recent EE graduates could not find any job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble

Between 1990 and 1997, the percentage of households in the United States owning computers increased from 15% to 35%

As a result of the rapidly-increasing usage of the Internet, many investors were eager to invest, at any valuation, in any company that had one of the Internet-related prefixes or a ".com" suffix in its name, leading to a stock market bubble.

An unprecedented amount of personal investing occurred during the boom, and the press reported the phenomenon of people quitting their jobs to engage in full-time day trading.

The value of the Nasdaq Composite stock market index, which includes many technology companies, rose from 1,000 in 1995 to 5,000 in the year 2000.

During the bubble, the valuations of companies in the Tech sector of the economy increased extremely rapidly.

Several companies that produced network equipment were irrevocably damaged by the debt taken on to fund their expansion and went bankrupt, causing what is known as the telecoms crash. However, some communications companies that supplied equipment and outsourced manufacturing, such as Cisco and Qualcomm, were able to survive.

Although their stock prices declined significantly, 48% of dot-com companies survived through 2004.

Nevertheless, laid-off technology experts, such as computer programmers, found a glutted job market. University degree programs for computer-related careers saw a noticeable drop in new students.

Anecdotes of unemployed programmers going back to school to become accountants or lawyers were common.
On March 10, 2000, the NASDAQ Composite peaked at 5,132.52, but fell 78% in the following 30 months.

>> No.9052636

>>9052591
No career is immune to boom and bust cycles, although PetroE is more vulnerable than most because its reliant on a single commodity that booms and busts like a madman. This is shown by >>9052599 and >>9052612

The difference between PetroE and CivE/EE is that the latter two have other job options when their area pops and also isn't reliant on a single commodity. CivE just happens to have a better job market than EE right now. But despite this note that I mentioned job market changes so he should do what he wants but ChemE instead of PetroE for job options similar to CivE and EE

>> No.9052673

>>9051730
>Why do you think Elon Musk swapped from eletric cars to lets go to Mars?

Because hes a fucking serial entrepreneur you stupid nigger. He also has his hyperloop, the boring company, solar roof stuff, and deliveries to ISS. Its not like he gave up, or even lessened his involvement with tesla motors. He just does new shit all the time. Also rocket fuel that would get us to Mars has no petroleum component. Its liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen. Read a book brainlet.

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>>9052673 >>9051730

Oil & Gas Prices are so low now

How Electric Cars Cucks can even Compete?

Electric Cars are so more expensive.

BIG OIL INDUSTRY

Fuel Efficiency is what Consumers Crave .

Dominant Oil Industry is the Alpha.

Are You mad Electric Cars Bois?

>> No.9052927

>>9052702
>electric cucks
Kek

>> No.9052938

>>9051667

go for the one with most QTs

>> No.9053070

>>9052938
I'm married and have a child on the way. Not interested in chasing pussy.

>> No.9053094

>>9052702
>fuel efficiency is what consumers crave
How about lack of need for fuel? It really doesnt get any more fuel efficient.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8hvyjZWHs

>> No.9053140

>>9052702
>thinking carbon tax isn't coming
have fun in petrol cuckboy while it lasts

>> No.9053168

>>9051667
Go for civil.

Petroleum is very volatile and tracks closely with the current political climate. Might be easy to get a job now but in four years it might be really easy to lay you off too.

I'd advise against electrical for purely selfish reasons. I'm going into EE and I don't want competition so stay clear motherfucker.

>> No.9053181

>>9052503
Yea he didn't think that over too well.

>> No.9053190

>>9053168
>I'd advise against electrical for purely selfish reasons. I'm going into EE and I don't want competition so stay clear motherfucker.
Don't worry, I'm from Denmark.

>> No.9053199

>>9053140
lol if the carbon tax happens then we're all fucked regardless of profession

>> No.9053201

>>9053190
Oh then you're fine. Go for electrical, it's cool as shit.

Never immigrate to America though...

>> No.9053378

>>9052499
Thermo is a bitch though, Also Fluids, I feel like mech is cool but some classes change a lot in terms of difficulty, so you gotta be careful with that.

>> No.9053523

>>9053378
The civil and eng courses at my uni all cover fluid mechanics/dynamics.

>> No.9053595

>>9053523
Yeah but it's different according to your major, in mech, thermo is one of the main components of your career, you need to learn it in detail, in chem eng you see it often, so you have to be good at it and in something like industrial you dont really need it, so the classes tend to be simple, i'm not sure about civil though.

>> No.9053605

>>9053199

A carbon tax would result in a economic boom. You are taking money from dinosaur corporations who are not really investing in anything these days and putting it back into booming markets (solar panels and wind energy are both booming). In the process you are creating a fuck ton of jobs because you are overhauling a large chunk of the economy by incentivising businesses to reduce their carbon footprint.

>> No.9053734

>>9051735
>hardest level of math & physic

>only have a brief introduction to modern physics

Engineers sure are brainlets

>> No.9053741

>>9051752
>EE is the most diverse
Not really.

>God tier:
Software/Computer engineering
> Good tier:
Mechanical engineering, Industrial Engineering
> Decent tier:
Civil Engineering, Electrical Engineering
> Bad tier:
Chemical Engineering
> Shit tier:
Petroleum Engineering, Nuclear Engineering

>> No.9053753

>>9053734
Modern physics is speculative garbage. Show me that it has uses other than you using it show everyone how smart you think you are.

>> No.9053760

>>9053741
are you retarded? chemical engineering is the highest paying phd for a reason.
software "engineering" is just code monkey.

>> No.9053763

>>9053760

CE is really specific, it doesnt have a big job diversity. The tiers are only based on job diversity, not pay or difficulty.

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>>9053741
>industrial above civil and EE
>CompE and SE above EE when an EE can do their jobs and not vice versa

>> No.9053830

>>9053741
Do you know what diversity is

>> No.9054217

>>9053830
>industrial above civil and EE
You obviously have no idea what IE is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_engineering#Overview


Machine learning, logistics, management, operations research, ergonomics, finance, automation, human resources, statistics, process engineering, plant design, product design, etc.

It literally can't get more diverse. If you think Civil and Electrical are more diverse, you must be retarded or really biased.

>> No.9054226

>>9054217
Wops, >>9053826

>> No.9054238

>>9053826
Ehh idk dude. I'm studying EE right now and I won't be taking any systems programming, algorithms, or data structure classes which I would assume a good software developer would need.

>> No.9054244

>>9051667
Just go mechanical and become a real, solid engineer. You'll get plenty of electrical engineering courses anyway. It's even surprisingly easy to double major, because the more specialized stuff is mechanical

>> No.9054246

>>9051667
>civil
Cap out at 100-125k, but lots of jobs
>electrical
Long hours, very hard, but ncie pay at 175-200k
>petroleum
Live in isolated region for first 15 years, work a lot, but make 250k
Which one are you most fit for?

>> No.9054738

>>9054217
Did not know you were ranking diversity. In that case maybe move chemE up one but I could see the rest.

>> No.9054742

>university doesn't offer chemical engineering
is it still a good idea to major in chemistry and go for some sort of graduate program for chemical engineering? how do I become a chemical engineer

>> No.9054867

>>9054742
Why can't you just find a chem e university?

>> No.9054873

>>9052938

Then go for petroleum engineering. Very few women study it and those that do are not that attractive anyway.

>> No.9055034

>>9054867
why would I transfer from an ivy league that's paying me a full ride

>> No.9055196

>>9055034
You didn't make those details clear lad.

>> No.9055200

>>9055196
fair enough, just wondering if I should aim to transfer to MIT, Caltech, or just continue on with chemistry and supplement with postdocs. I just want a stable, flexible career to raise a big family with

>> No.9055429

>>9055200
Just get a masters in ChemE

>> No.9055433

>>9051667
Don't do ChemE
There are no jobs and internships are scarce. It is by far the biggest joke out of the "non-meme" engineering disciplines.

Go civil or mechanical.

>> No.9056232

>>9054246
Engineers don't make anywhere near that amount of money.

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I fell for the math degree meme because I love math and am really good at it, but the only valid option seems to be actuarial sciences, if I want a stable high paying job. Is this a trap? It seems as much work as going to med school, but you will have a job and make money while studying for other exams. I really do like pure math but have been told by several phd students that jobs in math academia are few and far between.

>> No.9056358

>>9056232
Assuming you don't go into management that is accurate in general for mid to late career civE and PetroE and for EE if you work in silicon valley

>> No.9056405

I'm a professor in chemical engineering, so obviously I'm a bit biased, but if you plan to get a PhD I think mechanical, electrical, and chemical (petroleum is basically chemical with some classes that diverge in the 4th and maybe 3rd year) are all fine undergrad degrees. It is also fairly easy to switch from one to another for a PhD if you have good fundamentals. I would not recommend Civil Engineering, it is very applied and tough to transfer out of.

>> No.9056458

>>9056358
Well yea, in Silicon Valley the salary's are going to be really inflated. But anywhere else, a civil engineer isn't likely to break six figures at all and any other engineer will generally peak at low six figures.

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Is there a difference between civil electrical engineer and electrical engineer?

>> No.9056519

>>9056504
$$$ probably

>> No.9056558

>>9056504 >>9056504
EEs earn a lot more $money$ but there are fewer EE jobs.
CEs earn a less $money$ but there are a lot more CE jobs even in small cities.

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>>9056519
>>9056558
Would it be feasible just earning good money and pouring it all in investigation ? Or I am just fantasying?

>> No.9056819

Can anyone redpill me on CS vs EE?

>> No.9056823

>>9056405
Is it worthwhile to get a PhD in chemical engineering when you can get a good job with a bachelor's? What's the pros and cons? What would you recommend for a chemistry major who wants to do chemical engineering but doesn't have that option available as a major?

>> No.9056831

>>9056819
EE is a lot harder, and you end up getting the same job as a CS major so your choice.

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>>9051667
You need this chart anon

>> No.9056856

>>9055034
Hope about fuck the ivy league and go to a tech university with cheme which will guarantee you a job

>> No.9056913

>>9056856
but free money

>> No.9056992

>>9056458
CivEs typically cap out at around $110 unless they are bad at their job (which is likely since they are too dumb to try to get into management) YMMV based off of location but in general they just break 100k. PetroE gets paid absolute fucktons I don't understand what you are going on about.

>>9056850
You listed Materials Engineering twice, just put it in Good Tier

>>9056856
If he is at an Ivy doing ChemE then he will probably get a job as the Ivies that have ChemE are usually pretty good at engineering. If it doesn't work out he can easily try business.

>> No.9056996

>>9053753
GR is used in GPS and there's load of quantum shit in computers.

>> No.9057004

>>9056831
End up getting the same job if you are content being a code monkey*. EEs can certainly get into most CS coding jobs if they focus their efforts toward that path, but EEs have many paths to choose from. Power, communications, signal processing, electromagnetics, RF, analog or digital circuit design, biomedical, optics, fpga, embedded systems, control systems....the list goes on. Some of these definitely require lots of coding, but not the same type that CS plebs do.

>> No.9057009

>>9057004
They get the same jobs as CS people because there are barely any EE jobs

>> No.9057047

>>9057009
There are plenty just check job sites.

>> No.9057187

>>9057047
In comparison to cs there is a big difference in jobs

>> No.9057189

>>9056831
Does it matter which degree you have? Do employers care?

>> No.9057255

>>9056850
why is biomedical engineering shit tier?

>> No.9057263

>>9056850
Why can people never get these tier lists right? It's mechanical and electrical that should be at the top as far as employability, versatility, and prospective salary goes. Nuclear should be at the bottom unless you like having only 3 jobs in the country available to you at a time. Chemical and petroleum can be lucrative but you have to move to the middle of nowhere to find a decent job, and the job market isn't doing too well for them right now.

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>>9057255
MechE & EE steals BME jobs everytime.

& on top of that there are so Few BME Jobs for too many BME graduates.

College students flock at BME because the Math is less heavier than EE, ME, CivilE & ChemE

A BME need a PhD to competitive against ME BSc & EE BSc.

It's simulate the feeling of a Chad stealing your girlfriend (ME & EE stealing BME Jobs)

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>>9057265
I want to work in neuroengineering? what other option I could have if not biomedical?

>> No.9057274

>>9057263
The job market for electrical isn't that great either

>> No.9057275

>>9057268
robotics

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>>9057268
Then you have 2 options:

[Option 1] Double Major or do a Major-Minor Combo:
[ME or EE or ECE] + [BME or Bio or Neuro or Biochem]

[Option 2] Focus on a BME PhD & nothing less than a PhD because:
With a BSc you probably wont get a job unless you have a very high GPA + (nepotism) contacts .
With a MSc you might get a job, but it's harder & unlikely in a crowded job market .

>> No.9057425

Depends on where you live. Here in Melbourne 90% of the Taxi drivers have a bachelors or above in either Mechanical, Civil or Electrical.

>> No.9057474

>>9057425
>makes ridiculous claim
>no sauce

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>>9057275
>>9057281
thanks a lot !

>> No.9057807

>>9057004
>Power, communications, signal processing, electromagnetics, RF, analog or digital circuit design, biomedical, optics, fpga, embedded systems, control systems


That sounds boring as fuck

>> No.9058101

>>9051667
>Electrical Engineering
Best bet out of the three
Want one up from that one? Materials Engineering. Shits pretty damn cash.

>> No.9058786

>>9057268
Depends on what part of the brain you want to work on. If you want to do anything bioengineering or genetic engineering related, ChemE is a good way to go.

>> No.9059046

>>9053605
>increase taxes or implement a new one
>economic boom
literally pick one

>> No.9059062

>>9052501
Civil is the most future-proof. New or updated infrastructure is always in demand, every project is its own prototype, and that won't change until after terraforms are built.

You can certainly do some cool shit with electrical, though. You can also sell DIY electrical projects at a net profit pretty easily. Electrical is just more fun than civil and has more flexible though often less robust career prospects, as it's more susceptible to changes in technology and in the economy.

>> No.9059072

>Civil engineering
>Current Year
As a (real) engineer, I want to tell you to pursue civil to eliminate competition. As someone who doesn't want to be responsible for your eventual suicide, choose literally anything else

>> No.9059088

>>9051667
Chem, always chem

>> No.9059097

chemE here

if you wanna holler at some honeys then for some reason chemE has the most girls out of any engineering profession.

one year left, had two internships during college, wish me luck on my job search boys

>> No.9059121

>>9059097
I go to a large respected engineering university so I will post my impressions of each major

Nuclear engineering:
misguided in their choice, probably will end up working for a hospital. Small, close-knit major though with many networking opportunities

Chemical Engineering:
known for difficulty, less than stellar job prospects. If you can manage to get good grades and find internships every summer, then chemE will almost certainly yield the best opportunities right out of undergrad (except maybe perhaps top-level compsci people). I did chemE because I would kill myself if I had to stare at a computer screen for 12 hours every day for the rest of my life

MechE
middle of the lane, straight shooters. Not the hardest major, but still respectable. Many jobs, but many candidates too. Generally well rounded people

Compsci:
Mostly weedbros who like video games. The most talented have the world in their palm though. Tons of jobs, but if you are bottom of the class or go to a bad uni then the jobs wont be that great.

CE
compsci people who are actually smart, compsci x EE

EE
dad jeans. hard major. I assume most EEs are pretty smart. unsure of job prospects

petroleum:
same as chemE but with some geology classes

BME
super meme major. not a meme subject though

Civil:
everyone rags on civil, its the major you go to when you drop ChemE. With that said, there are a shit ton of civil jobs. Better to get good grades in civil and find a solid job than shit grades in a hard discipline and find no job.

Materials engineering
way too specific for an undergrad, avoid at all costs unless you know you will go to grad school.

IOE (industrial operations engineering):
I know some schools call this different things, but it is basically a business x engineering degree. Lots of chads, lots of jobs though too. Good prospects, but boring subject matter. Curriculum is regarded as easy, but the challenge of this career has more to do with social skills and networking.

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>>9059072
>eliminate competition
>one person will change that
>as hundreds enter the program yearly

>> No.9059732

>>9059121
>Chemical Engineering:
known for difficulty, less than stellar job prospects. If you can manage to get good grades and find internships every summer, then chemE will almost certainly yield the best opportunities right out of undergrad (except maybe perhaps top-level compsci people). I did chemE because I would kill myself if I had to stare at a computer screen for 12 hours every day for the rest of my life
Do you reckon if it is possible for a chemistry major to get involved in a chemical engineering related internship?

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>>9051667
Never ever petro.

The market isn't stable enough. If you want to earn petrodollars, just get a chemE degree.

t. fag in the Bakken right now

>> No.9060291

>>9059121
>>9059732
Fuck I butchered my first post's formatting. Let me try again.

>Chemical Engineering:
>known for difficulty, less than stellar job prospects. If you can manage to get good grades and find internships every summer, then chemE will almost certainly yield the best opportunities right out of undergrad (except maybe perhaps top-level compsci people). I did chemE because I would kill myself if I had to stare at a computer screen for 12 hours every day for the rest of my life
Do you reckon if it is possible for a chemistry major to get involved in a chemical engineering related internship?

>> No.9060295

>>9051667
I was just like you.
I chose Electric. Then CS. Then Mathematics. Then Psychological Science.

Just graduated with a BS in Psych and a minor in Mathematics with no internships.

Don't be me.
Stick with engineering.

>> No.9060302

>>9059121
>IOE (industrial operations engineering):
>I know some schools call this different things, but it is basically a business x engineering degree. Lots of chads, lots of jobs though too. Good prospects, but boring subject matter. Curriculum is regarded as easy, but the challenge of this career has more to do with social skills and networking.
Most IOE end up as systems engineers. They're not the guys who design say a boiler, but an entire physical plant.
>ChemE
ChemE actually has great job prospects...if you like industry. Just about any industry where liquid is a big time component will have ChemEs somewhere around. The high speed jobs might be few and far between, but the low speed ChemE jobs still pay well and are fairly comfy.

An EE will always have job opportunities, period. The supply is always lagging behind the demand.

BME might be meme, but it's easy as fuck to get research dollars.

Civil is "I'm cool with making 50k/year until I decide to open a construction company". Protip: when you open your company, don't actually do any construction. Start a signage company (the people who put out the cones, barrels, detour signs, etc. in construction zones), those fuckers make ridiculous money, especially when they usually only have like 3 real employees and get their flaggers from day labor places.

>> No.9060331

>>9060295
I'm in the same boat but so far I am sticking with CS.

I went from Biology > Math > Environmental E> MechE > Computer E > CS

I made the right choice r-right?

>> No.9060722 [DELETED] 

>>9051667
civil has the best job prospects
mostly because government, whether at the local, state, or federal level hire civil engineers more than any other discipline (makes sense since infrastructure spending - roads, bridges, highways, dams - all relate to civil). Also any form of development (building, industrial, etc.) needs to through the City for approval and civil engineers usually write the engineering site-servicing requirements.

You're basically never out of a job with a civil degree unless you're THAT bad at interviews. I only have a 2-year tech diploma in civil eng and i got a 67k job straight out of college working for local government lol. Meanwhile my bud who did the mech diploma could only get a 45k job designing pumps. He's back in school doing the degree.

Our assistant director of engineering is 35 with only a civil degree plus PE, and he makes around 170,000

That said, throw any fantasies you have about engineering out the fucking window. You won't be doing any fascinating design. On the job you'll be doing cookie cutter designs, pumping out drawings as fast as possible, tedious project tracking, and spending 50% of your time on bullshit correspondence/meetings. You'll very rarely get to flex your technical prowess because it's not economical for the firm for you to waste time doing so. You're just driven by bullshit codes and design manuals.