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9013707 No.9013707 [Reply] [Original]

>>>/his/3038547

what the fuck?

>> No.9013723

>>9013707

if you don't know the position and momentum of something how can you tell where it's going?

>> No.9013724

>>9013723
by asking nicely

>> No.9013731

>>9013707
Pedantry that's typical of pseudointellectuals.

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9013734

>>9013707
>what the fuck?
Never mind QM, the "Arrow of time" makes it clear the universe is non-deterministic.
If classical mechanics were as real as the average OCD, autistic neck beard would like, then cause and effect would work equally well backwards in time as well as forwards.
The future would be able to affect the past as well as the past effects the future.
And that's clearly not how the real world works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%27s_demon#Thermodynamic_irreversibility
> Laplace's demon met its end with early 19th century developments of the concepts of irreversibility, entropy, and the second law of thermodynamics.

>> No.9013736

>>9013734
>The future would be able to affect the past as well as the past effects the future.
it sounds like you would need to first reverse time to test that

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>>9013736
>it sounds like you would need to first reverse time to test that
CM is time-reversible, the universe isn't.

>> No.9013768

the indeterminacy of QM has its reasonable limits otherwise that sentence just amounts to
>nothing can be reliably predicted in the universe

>> No.9013776

ITT /sci/ tries to label someone a brainlet for saying a statement that is 100% absolutely true

>> No.9013781

>>9013750
>>9013734

why are you even invoking "time" into this argument

all there is is material reorientation