/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.8987694]

what does sci think of Jordan "Bucko" Peterson?

>durr he is no scientist
>over 5000 citations and almost 90000 reads on researchgate
>over 8000 citations on google scholar

[Anonymous No.8987710]

he's a contemporary philosopher who isn't a cult leader full of shit, which is rare and refreshing
his ideas could save western civilization

[Anonymous No.8987711]

>>8987694
Closeted homosexual. That's what I think, I'm sorry if that bothers you.

[Anonymous No.8987712]

>>8987711
IMAX tier projection.

[Anonymous No.8987713]

>>8987711
>claim without evidence just to stir up shit
>sci
yes about right

[Anonymous No.8987714]

>>8987711
Yeah, I fucked that guy in a bathroom back in 1992.

Best head I ever got.

[Anonymous No.8987727]

>>8987714
Did he s"lay" your "dragon"?

[Anonymous No.8987730]

I'd tell you to go to /his/ or /lit/ but I don't think they want you even there... So, go to >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8987732]

>>8987727
You won't believe how much he wanted the cock. Fucked him like a woman with his legs in the air.

[Anonymous No.8987734]

>>8987714
>>8987727
>>8987730
>>8987732
quintessential /sci/

[Anonymous No.8987737]

>>8987694

He hates commies so he's a friend that fights for freedom.

[Anonymous No.8987742]

>>8987737
how can a person comes to this, losing all emphaty
is there a real counterpart to this phenomenon, like actually losing function in your "mirror" neurons as a result of idk constantly high testosterone levels

[Anonymous No.8987756]

>>8987737
wow
where's his altruism gene

[Anonymous No.8987775]

>>8987742
>how can a person comes to this, losing all emphaty
killing communists is the empathic thing to do. by defeating them you save millions of lives.

[Anonymous No.8987792]

>The sky's the limit. I am now starting to formalize my plans to bring accredited online humanities education to as many people as possible around the world. My colleagues and I (who include excellent engineers, programmers, financiers and educators) want to take the humanities back from the corrupt postmodernists, and offer education of the highest possible quality everywhere at 1/10 the price or less. We'll solve the accreditation problem as well, offering degree-equivalents with real psychometric value: best student in 10000; best in 1000; best in 100; best in 10; best in 5 (and no certification granted below that). We want to automate and crowdsource the problem of teaching people to write. We want to set up the courses so that (1) the content itself is constantly graded and improved and (2) the same goes for the accreditation process. We'll start with the humanities, including history, generating something approximately a four year liberal arts college degree, teaching people how to be responsible, literate, effective, powerful, confident citizens. We want to conduct real research into how people learn (and how they learn fast) and use the results of that research to make education better. It's high time for the humanities of the new millenium.


Can he save the humanities?

[Anonymous No.8987827]

>>8987775
every person is a world

[Anonymous No.8987837]

>>8987827
some world are worth more than others

[Anonymous No.8987871]

>>8987711
either way he's fulfilled his evolutionary duty by having biological children. Your claim is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.8987876]

>>8987694
If you listen to him on the Waking up podcast he's actually a bit of a derp.

[Anonymous No.8987897]

>>8987837
Hello, communist

[Anonymous No.8988280]

>>8987897
Are you illiterate, or just misunderstanding? To claim some peoe are worth more is a capatilistic approach. The guy above him claiming "everyone is a world", now THAT'S communist

[Anonymous No.8988281]

>>8988280
claiming that in every human being is a spark of the divinity is not communist but western individualism .

[Anonymous No.8988475]

>>8987694
he's right wing fanatic trying to undo last 500 years of rational thought by pushing on everyone how much we're all supposedly programmed by religion and other pre-scientific-method-total-bullshit and that we should respect religion because it was around much longer that scientific method

pure bullshit

[Anonymous No.8988478]

>>8988475
well said

[Anonymous No.8988481]

>>8988475
>he's right wing
stopped reading there

[Anonymous No.8988484]

>>8988481
lol you retard, ive listened to both 2017 classes : maps of meaning and personality and transformations so i actually fucking know what i'm talking about

[Anonymous No.8988488]

>>8988484
in that case you are a brainlett. maybe on /b/ you can find your new home

[Anonymous No.8988490]

>>8987876
To be fair Sam Harris was mostly playing semantic games with Peterson. I am a big fan of Sam Harris' podcast, but he really should have let that conversation move along instead of sperging out on Peterson.

[Anonymous No.8988492]

>>8988484
LOL apparently you didn't listen very closely brainlet

[Anonymous No.8988496]

>>8988475
ewwww you're disgusting anon don't talk to me

[Anonymous No.8988498]

>>8988488
nazi dubs confirm

[Anonymous No.8988499]

>>8988484
>>8988475
>he's right wing
Please attempt to justify this statement I want a good laugh.

[Anonymous No.8988511]

>>8988488
>>8988492
>>8988496
>>8988499
you all are brainlets. of course he wouldn't tell you upfront hes right wing fanatic, he's obviously hiding behind psychological stuff, even bullshit like dream interpretation, hurr durr how good freud maps to actual neurology! piaget would have taken into account neurosciences if he lived today! funnies part? talking about how you should use archetypes to shield yourself from propaganda! no you god damn retards, its called critical thinking, you dont need retarded bible stories for that AT ALL.


hurr durr essential narrative structures. its all fucking bullshit, you're the ones that dont see straight through his right wing brainwashing.


picrel: my results from test.mensa.no test which I've done earlier today you retards

[Anonymous No.8988513]

>>8988511
you go impressive length, but still very weak bait. saw better on pol famalam

[Anonymous No.8988515]

>>8988511
>claim he's right wing
>don't make a single mention of his politics to back it up
Hilarious, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.8988517]

Very principled and motivational.

His scapegoating of postmodernism is a bit comical, but that's the only negative thing I can say about him.

[Anonymous No.8988518]

>>8988499
Only right-wing faggots are obsessed with the concept of "free speech" in 2017.
Left-wingers and intelligent people have long moved on.

[Anonymous No.8988521]

>>8988478
>>8988481
>>8988488
>>8988492
>>8988496
>>8988499
>>8988513
>>8988515

>>8988517
>His scapegoating of postmodernism is a bit comical

yeah thats not right wing at all you retards

[Anonymous No.8988534]

>>8988511
>he's a right wing fanatic
>so what if he doesn't behave or argue like a right wing fanatic
>he must be a SECRET right wing fanatic

(You)

[Anonymous No.8988540]

>>8988518
>Only right-wing faggots are obsessed with the concept of "free speech" in 2017.
holy shit this is comical

please continue

[Anonymous No.8988544]

He sounds like Kermit. Also, I would argue that the identity politics crap has its roots in critical race theory, not the French "postmodernists" that are commonly derided.

[Anonymous No.8988557]

>>8988540
Nice rebuke.

[Anonymous No.8988558]

>>8988540
putin, kim jong-un and the saudis are all left wing for instance

[Anonymous No.8988566]

>>8988558
Putin is a Russian nationalist/revanchist, NK is basically a racialist absolute monarchy (they formally renounced Marxism quite awhile ago), and KSA is not left-wing by any reasonable definition.

[Anonymous No.8988569]

>>8988566
but that's wrong faggot

[Anonymous No.8988571]

>>8988569
You sure showed me.

[Anonymous No.8988574]

>>8987756
Killing commies is altruism.

[Anonymous No.8988575]

>>8988571
i showed you you're wrong but you're too dumb to listen

[Anonymous No.8988588]

>>8988557
>Nice rebuke.
>Chomsky is right-wing because he's a free speech advocate
>Bill Maher is right-wing because he's a free speech advocate
>Cenk Uygur is right-wing because he's a free speech advocate
>Dave Rubin is right-wing because he's a free speech advocate
>all the sane people who realize the importance of free speech are automatically right-wing!!
please keep going, these are the funniest posts I've seen all week

[Anonymous No.8988934]

>>8988588
LOL at throwing Dave Rubin in there

[Anonymous No.8988939]

everyone slightly to the right of you is a cryptoconservative when you're a communist

[Anonymous No.8988944]

he is definitely the ultimate sqw though

[Anonymous No.8988961]

but it's still fun watchign his patreon numbers go up

[Anonymous No.8988968]

>>8988521
His hatred of postmodernism is vehement but doesn't make him right wing. He is more of a centrist than a right winger. I kind of agree with him on some of his opinions on postmodernism, like its rejection of absolute truth and its assertion of relativism.

[Anonymous No.8988973]

>>8988961
the only person i dont mind giving 5$/month

[Anonymous No.8988986]

>>8987710
He essentially is a cult leader now that /pol/ has made him the new Memeneux.

[Anonymous No.8988990]

>>8988986
but molyneux is a philosopher, peterson's a psychologist

[Anonymous No.8988995]

>>8987792
>Being this delusional
He really is a meme.

[Anonymous No.8989003]

>>8988481
Right, /pol/ hates right wingers.

[Anonymous No.8989006]

What inspired this thread, OP?
Was it >>8988504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI7_UAU4T9Q

[Anonymous No.8989014]

>>8988990
Memeneux is a self-proclaimed philosopher. Peterson is much more of a philosopher than him. The kind of academic psych that Peterson is practicing is much more philosophy than science.

[Anonymous No.8989041]

>>8989014
peterson is mainly a scientist and cultural critic. woudln't really call him a philosopher

[Anonymous No.8989045]

>>8987792
humanities education that isn't infested with identity politics bullshit is exactly what's needed right now

[Anonymous No.8989046]

>>8989014
e.g. Maps of Meaning is more a work of literary criticism than philosophy IMO

[Anonymous No.8989053]

He's wrong to think that epistemological priority implies ontological priority

[Anonymous No.8989134]

>>8988574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XxYwWg7F8I

[Anonymous No.8989151]

>>8989134
Gee, an entire song dedicated to being a cuck, you sure showed us.

[Anonymous No.8989165]

What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.8989169]

>>8989165
What an idiot.

[Anonymous No.8989186]

>>8989165
>Proof is impossible
>as godel proved

Really captivated my cashews

[Anonymous No.8989189]

>>8989169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS7y4SIFnjw

[Anonymous No.8989190]

>>8987694

king of brainlets

[Anonymous No.8989202]

>oh wow he isnt smart at all

You're just trying to be different kid btfo

[Anonymous No.8989213]

My gf and I enjoy listening to him, but hes overrated imo.

Im actually kind of surprised he gets away with calling out post-modernism. I mean, hes the one who doesnt believe in objective truth. Hes the one who psychologizes everything.

[Anonymous No.8989399]

>>8989165
yeah, not a right-wing fanatic at all.

bloody idiots, even on /sci/

[Anonymous No.8989406]

>>8987775
>by defeating them you save millions of lives
Kind of like you nazis, right?

[Anonymous No.8989420]

>>8987897
>saving many worlds by sacrificing a few

vs

>sparing a few worlds, thereby allowing many to perish

The trolley problem has pretty much been solved long ago and discussed to death, so all that remains is your own lack of moral fibre.

[Anonymous No.8989425]

>>8989406
Ridding Europe of gypsies is such a bad thing

[Anonymous No.8989444]

>>8989425

Mass murder is so cool! High five!

[Anonymous No.8989447]

>>8989406
I oppose all kinds of authoritarians. but if I had to pick I would go with natsoc.

[Anonymous No.8989454]

>>8987694
He has some very insightful lectures on social psychology.

[Anonymous No.8989457]

>>8989186
its called being facetious you autistic fuck

[Anonymous No.8989458]

>>8989444
Preventing crimes, homicides and squalor is cool.
Sitting idly and watching your homeland burn for the sake of the cult of human rights isn't.

[Anonymous No.8989467]

>>8989458

Whatever helps you rationalize murder my man. Fuck the judiciary system, move straight to killing.

[Anonymous No.8989468]

>>8989213
Imo he holds a form of sophisticated modernist interpretation out from which much of post modernism arose so it's easy to confuse the two. A lot of times when he explains something he goes into how that particular idea was bastardized and why it doesn't imply what pm claims.

[Anonymous No.8989472]

>>8989467
The judiciary system whose sole concern is the comfort of the most heinous criminals in modern day Europe to the expense of law abiding citizens.

[Anonymous No.8989477]

>>8989165
"I'm fucking stupid." or something along those lines.

[Anonymous No.8989478]

>>8987737
>>8987775
>>8989420
This is so idiotic to such an uncanny degree it can only be justified by actual none memetic full blown autism.

The issue has fuck all to do with whether or not communism should be fought with lethal force. It has to do with one's capacity to empathize with individuals who've fallen prey to a malicious ideology given natural limitations of the human brain.

The fact that you not only lack said capacity, but also that of even understanding the issue itself reflects a legitimate pathology that warrants forced social isolation.

[Anonymous No.8989481]

>>8989472

So let's not try and fix the judiciary system and just resort to murder? What a great civilization.

[Anonymous No.8989484]

>>8989481
But that's what we're trying to do. Glad we agree.

[Anonymous No.8989491]

>>8989484

Keep it up buddy, I'm sure you'll be a great murderer one day.

[Anonymous No.8989494]

>>8989491

[Anonymous No.8989495]

>>8989494
Cringe

[Anonymous No.8989498]

>>8989495

[Anonymous No.8989511]

>>8989186
>what is reading the whole sentence

>>8989399
>religious
>right wing fanatic
The first doesn't imply the second m8

[Anonymous No.8989519]

>>8989420
>moral fibre
Ethics, not morals.

[Anonymous No.8989522]

>>8989511
>The first doesn't imply the second m8
It does, all religious people are right wingers because they hate science.

[Anonymous No.8989826]

>>8989165
His abuse of Godel is one of hte things I hate about him, and also the fact that he's a climate change denier.

[Anonymous No.8989827]

>>8989165
I also hate how he thinks traditionalism has any value btw

[Ovarb !!8JCE6g49Wim No.8989831]

test

[Anonymous No.8989832]

>>8989831
FAILED

[Anonymous No.8989837]

>>8989522
Left-wingers are the ones who hate science nowadays, I'm afraid.

[Anonymous No.8990052]

>Personality lectures seem - so far and mostly - scientifically valid and Peterson takes a skeptical and critical approach
>All other times Peterson talks it is a bunch of pseudoscientific bullshit, like Jung
Why? How?

[Anonymous No.8990064]

>>8989837
why is that, because they have social science ideas you don't like

meanwhile the right literally denies climate science and physics

[Anonymous No.8990065]

>>8990064
>why is that
anti-GMOs
anti-nuclear
anti-IQ
the list goes on

[Anonymous No.8990069]

>>8990065
they aren't denying the science of any of those things you moron nor are they such a big topic anyway, nor is there some consensus

meanwhile the literal LEFTIST president trump left the PCA
no fucking comparison can be made here

[Anonymous No.8990070]

>>8990064
social "science" ideas like biological sex doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.8990074]

>>8990069
i agree that trump is a leftist

[Anonymous No.8990076]

>>8990069
>nor are they such a big topic anyway
>agriculture and energy aren't big topics

[Anonymous No.8990080]

>>8990069
>they aren't denying the science
then what is being anti-nuclear and anti-GMO if that's not being anti-science?

[Anonymous No.8990082]

trump is totally the arbiter of all right-wing thought, literally everyone on the right is a climate change denier

[Anonymous No.8990083]

>>8990076
>>nor are they such a big topic anyway
i mean hte left doesn't really talk about them too much
not that they don't matter
there isn't consensus among the left on them either
>>8990070
dumbass your president is literally a climate change denier
was obama a gender denier or whatever
no
not to mention steve bannon who is a white nationalist AND a climate change denier

no place for comparison between left and right on science (dont get me started on the religious right which is still percentage bigger than muh sjw)

[Anonymous No.8990088]

>>8990083
trump and bannon have nothing to do with anything retard

[Anonymous No.8990091]

>>8990083
also being a white nationalist has nothing to do with science

[Anonymous No.8990093]

>>8990083
>steve bannon who is a white nationalist AND a climate change denier
you're not even american are you? it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_gkBPlLcfQ

stick to the politics of whatever shithole you live in

[Anonymous No.8990097]

>>8990083
>there isn't consensus among the left on them either
>dumbass your president is literally a climate change denier
>not to mention steve bannon who is a white nationalist AND a climate change denier

kek

>there's no consensus!
>but look at these two right-wingers!

[Anonymous No.8990101]

>>8990088
>trump and bannon have nothing to do with anything retard
yeah ofc
also epa head who thinks climate is on a hiatus
>>8990097
you mean the right wingers that are in power right now and defund science they dont like

[Anonymous No.8990108]

>left is anti science
come back when you shill for a guy to be literal POTUS that doesn't deny climate change

[Anonymous No.8990109]

>>8990101
>you mean the right wingers that are in power right now and defund science they dont like
and Obama cancelled NASA projects

you know there's only a finite amount of money that the government can budget right?

[Anonymous No.8990112]

>>8990101
the republican party is not right-wing

>>8990108
i don't shill

[Anonymous No.8990113]

>>8990109
>obama canceled nasa projects because he's a leftist
no
trump did what he did precisely because of ideology

[Anonymous No.8990117]

>>8990113
actually it's because he's a corporate shill. he has no ideology.

[Anonymous No.8990121]

>>8990113
he cancelled it because his ideology led him to put the money into something else

you sound like a naive highschooler with little to no understanding of how the real world actually functions

I'm also still convinced you're not even American

[Anonymous No.8990126]

>>8990121
>you sound like a naive highschooler with little to no understanding of how the real world actually functions
says the guy with the meme pictures

trump says climate change isn't even real, it's a chinese hoax
obama didn't deny physics did he

one made policy based on reality with which you disagree
the other made policy based on non-reality with which policy you apparently agree

there's no arguing here, you are just wrong here, accept it move on

also i am american, if it makes you feel better

[Anonymous No.8990151]

>>8990126
Not a Trump guy, but what evidence do you have that global warming is real?

[Anonymous No.8990154]

>>8989165

The axiom is "I think therefore I am"

[Anonymous No.8990734]

>>8989165
Well, what he's saying is that all proofs use assumptions that are generally regarded as true (these are axioms). These assumptions must also be proved likewise, which leads us to a cycle where all axioms hereto must be proved. With that we must say that there must be a universal axiom which is true even if there's no proof, and that axiom is typically one of some element of faith in the foundations of ones' subject - and if you care for it, God.

In a sense, therefore, he is right.

[Anonymous No.8990781]

>>8990734
That's a philosophical problem that's existed since antiquity, and has nothing to do with Godel. See: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sufficient-reason/

[Anonymous No.8990803]

>>8989826
he's not a climate change denier

[Anonymous No.8990913]

>>8989826
>climate change denier
Nice left-wing label bro

[Anonymous No.8990929]

>>8989478
Killing communists is analogous to quarantine measures during a zombie apocalypse - you may feel empathy toward those you're slaughtering, but ultimately it's necessary and the only humane option is to put them down

[Anonymous No.8990935]

>>8987694
>In this thread: people who haven't sorted themselves out and need to clean their room

[Anonymous No.8990954]

>>8990935
They need to rescue their dead fathers from the bottom of the ocean, roughly speaking, bucko.

[Anonymous No.8991488]

>>8988521
i think you are confusing conservatism with being politically right wing. they are not the same thing.

[Anonymous No.8991494]

>>8991488
He isn't really any more conservative than liberal, either. His philosophy allows and even necessitates both.

[Anonymous No.8991526]

>>8990734
>These assumptions must also be proved likewise
Nope, wrong. Axioms are simply assumptions which must be accepted in order to prove something. You don't prove axioms.

>With that we must say that there must be a universal axiom which is true even if there's no proof
No, there is no such thing as a true or false axiom. Axioms are consistent or inconsistent, useful or not useful.

>and that axiom is typically one of some element of faith in the foundations of ones' subject
What? You do realize that outside of mathematics and formal logic, there is no such thing as a proof right? Neither require "faith" because axioms are not believed to be true (or false) in the first place. You can't take empirical/physical hypotheses as axioms. Not to mention that God is just a badly formed idea that is not useful for figuring things out about the world.

[Anonymous No.8991619]

>>8990929
i like how your image is making the opposite point to what you're saying