How can we stop Flat Earth? What is a proof even a total idiot cannot deny?

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Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:03:14 2017 No.8959091 [Reply] [Original]

How can we stop Flat Earth? What is a proof even a total idiot cannot deny?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:06:54 2017 No.8959100 >>8959091 Well we have pictures, but they deny those. So my conclusion is that they're brain damaged (or trolling).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:07:47 2017 No.8959105 the fucking gravitational instability of it for starters or lack of other gigantic disc-shaped stellar objects

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:08:18 2017 No.8959109 >>8959091 They can deny any proof because they think it's all a conspiracy and that they're being lied to.

Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:10:21 2017 No.8959114
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>>8959100
I wouldn't have made this thread if not for the fact this mind virus is spreading rapidly. Now two people I know personally, one a good friend believes the earth is flat. Whatever shape the earth is, I don't want to live on it anymore.

Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:15:33 2017 No.8959123
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>>8959109
The thing I have to ask is what sort of person has zero personal experience affirming a curved earth? If I am overlooking the ocean and I see part of a ship or part of a moon or part of a skyline then I can assume the earth isn't flat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:36:33 2017 No.8959162 >>8959114 I don't know what to say, other than get better friends.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:38:58 2017 No.8959164 >>8959091 Anon, nobody here actually believes in the Flat Earth. People pretend they do, because it makes people like you really angry and shower them in (you)s.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:40:45 2017 No.8959167 What's there explanation for timezones again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:41:59 2017 No.8959170 >>8959167 Timezones are an Illuminati lie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:42:34 2017 No.8959171 Idiots are idiots, you dont have to do anything for them, Anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 18:57:43 2017 No.8959191 >>8959123 Their explanation is it's waves hiding the ship. Atleast that's the one I hear bandied about most often when presented with that evidence.

Anonymous Mon Jun 5 19:01:20 2017 No.8959193

It's the fault of faggots using "i bet you believe the earath is falt too lol so dumbo! :D" when arguing to dismiss any opposition, though generous use of hitlers does improve the weight of such arguments tremendously. Anyway.
Now, thanks to that, the ultimate assburger bait has been born and it works flawlessly over and over again. If it attracts legit schizos who improve it then all the better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 19:21:02 2017 No.8959220 "Why would they lie about the earth being flat? What do they gain? NASA funding is shit so clearly not that."

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 19:34:00 2017 No.8959240 Ask them why do planes fly along great circles to get from point A to point B faster if a straight line along a flat surface is supposed to be the shortest distance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 19:44:38 2017 No.8959261 >>8959167 The earth is a disc with the north pole in the middle. The sun flies over it in a big circle like a giant spotlight. seriously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 19:46:21 2017 No.8959263 stop trying to educate dindus. it's a waste of time and money

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:17:07 2017 No.8959295 >>8959105 Unrelated, but a toroid like OP's gif is gravitationally stable, even the bobbing "orbit" is possible for such a system.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:18:58 2017 No.8959299 >>8959240 government conspiracy to control commercial flight paths of course

Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:27:11 2017 No.8959309

>>8959091
Coreolis effect, celestial seasons, moon phases, the fact that we can accurately predict comets and meteors' arrivals, temperature variation, historical text, the lack of scientific authority flat earth conceptualizers have, gravity, shadows, the atmosphere, centripetal force, the observation about telescopes showing all others celestial bodies as generally spherical.

That last one get shot down if they dont believe in telescopes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:30:18 2017 No.8959315 >>8959299 Tell them that the majority of airlines do this, even those outside of the US. It's impossible for all governments to agree on something so insignificant as the path of a plane so there is no way that that can be the case.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:33:31 2017 No.8959323 >>8959114 I have the same problem. The real culprit is China doing a massive disinformation campaign to the USA using grass roots shit like this. They are trying to undermine the citizen's trust with the government. Bad science is merely one tactic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:35:52 2017 No.8959327 File: 47 KB, 306x469, 1496260140677.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959240 >tfw planes got faster and faster over the decades, but travel times remain the same due to the logistics of holding patterns and airport traffic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:37:39 2017 No.8959330 File: 202 KB, 1536x1280, 1536px-Earthquake_wave_paths.svg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Seismology. It works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:58:19 2017 No.8959351 File: 18 KB, 590x495, Ft2ZzDR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Show them this. You're not woke unless you know the Earth is actually a raptor

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:21:23 2017 No.8959398 >>8959123 Something something optical lensing something something only happens in support of my viewpoint.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:28:56 2017 No.8959408 >>8959105 Gravity doesn't exist on most flat Earth models you dunce

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:30:46 2017 No.8959412 >>8959123 M&, that isn't evidence. Check the fuckin angles in comparison to how big globe earth is supposed to be. That would happen wether on a sphere or not

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:30:55 2017 No.8959413 Both flat earth and ball shaped earth are physical models descripting a phenomena. Other is to be chosen out and Occam's razor highly suggest ball shaped earth. Don't get too emo in science or they will too and then all hell breaks loose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:33:24 2017 No.8959418 File: 8 KB, 1152x648, muh-vanishing-point.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959412 maybe but it wouldn't happen if it were flat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:34:37 2017 No.8959423 >>8959323 >Implying China exists

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:36:45 2017 No.8959429 >>8959418 And why is that? Explan simple sci to me pl0x

Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:42:05 2017 No.8959441

>>8959429
its not even science. I'm just saying perspective doesn't allow the projection of a flat surface to overlap something on top of it. The only way you can have a sun"set" in the flat earth model is if the sun travels further and further away until its just an indistinct point on the horizon, maintaining a constant distance from the horizon with respect to its visible size.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 21:45:55 2017 No.8959448 >>8959441 >on top of it I mean above it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 23:17:56 2017 No.8959581 If the Earth is flat, why are there mountains?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 23:43:12 2017 No.8959607 What's the response to the pics again? That they're all photoshopped?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 23:48:23 2017 No.8959611 >>8959441 this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 23:51:04 2017 No.8959612 If flat earthers think the sun goes under the disk, how do they explain the fact that the sun is shining on some part of the earth all the time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 04:54:19 2017 No.8959878 >>8959091 godplaysgolf.gif

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 05:04:22 2017 No.8959889 >>8959091 Nothing can convince them because they're trolling you.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 05:43:54 2017 No.8959904
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>>8959091
So, first on, we could tell him what the earth rotation is by the points where the sun is by our eyes. Second, some flat earther managed to do a really high fly and made a cam on board. Because he didn't see the earth curvitchure with his naked eyes. But you know that if you make an image with no curvitchure smaller there is still none and if you make a picture with a curvitchure smaller the curvitchure gets bigger. And so he accidently made the prove that the earth is round and he didn't even notice. But I think the other flat earthers will think that the images are fake, eventho they are by a flatearther. There are much more things you could list, but they will never accept them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 05:46:40 2017 No.8959905 >>8959904 *Because he didn't see the curvitchure with his naked eyes, he thought there would be none.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 05:55:40 2017 No.8959910 >>8959612 have you ever actually been to where it shines and doesn't shine at the same time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 06:26:51 2017 No.8959929 File: 1.11 MB, 482x482, spin.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959612 >If flat earthers think the sun goes under the disk man, my brain hurt reading this post. you have to know the geocentric model in order to disprove it.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 06:40:04 2017 No.8959937

>>8959091
I saw on tv a group of people get a powerful laser, fix it on the edge of a lake and then they take a boat out several miles and the laser goes over the top of the boat proving that the earth is curved.

>Flat lake + laser

And the laser goes over the top of the boat when it was zeroed on a mark on the side of the boat when it was next to the shore

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 06:46:22 2017 No.8959948 >>8959091 Analemma

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 06:49:10 2017 No.8959949

Not sure why nobody has mentioned this yet but... ask them why we have never found an edge of the earth. If the earth was flat there would have to be an edge to it and since we have sailed and flown around the earth and never found an edge then obviously earth is a sphere.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 06:50:56 2017 No.8959951

>>8959091
Nothing you say will help them. Their brain lacks the hardware capable of understanding this.

You have to understand how the flattard sees the world.
They have the concept of "everything falls 'down'", since as far as they've experienced, everything does indeed fall "down".

Therefore if the Earth was round, people would fall off the Earth.

Therefore the Earth cannot possibly be round. Since they've been to Australia and didn't fall off!

These people view the world as do 3 year olds.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 06:56:19 2017 No.8959954 >>8959929 If Sun is a spotlight, you should see a well-defined region where it shines to. But no, you see it shine wherever it is, in all directions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:02:15 2017 No.8959956 There's no point in trying prove to retarded people that Earth is not flat. Just look at this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V-ZfRXReKM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:07:04 2017 No.8959965 >>8959441 Well the sun goes under the disk at night obviously.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:07:05 2017 No.8959966
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>>8959954
>If Sun is a spotlight, you should see a well-defined region where it shines to. But no, you see it shine wherever it is, in all directions.

>you have to know the geocentric model in order to disprove it.

and on the geocentric model, the sun is about 32 miles in diameter, and about 3500 miles in the air.

>>	Geometric Unity Tue Jun 6 07:13:28 2017 No.8959973 File: 36 KB, 256x256, Not_a_mystery.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959091 >What is a proof even a total idiot cannot deny? A total idiot can deny anything. That's their magic.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:18:48 2017 No.8959980
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>>8959951
here's a simple experiment that casts doubt on gravity.

take 3 rooms, and 3 objects. a room with a vacuum, a room with 1 atmosphere of pressure at 14 PSI, and a room with several thousand atmopsheres of pressure at 200,000 PSI. the 3 objects are a ball, a ballon, and a feather.

in the vacuum, the ball, and the feather fall at the same rate, because there is no air resistance for the feather, and the balloon floats up.

in the 1 atmosphere room, the ball falls at the normal rate neglecting a little air resistance. the feather falls at a much loser rate because it is struggling to push away the air, and the balloon floats to the top of the room.

the 3rd room with 200,000 PSI of atmospheric pressure when you release the 3 objects none of them move. the ball and feather are not dense enough to push the air away so it can fall down. the balloon is not strong enough to push the air out of the way so it can float up

this can be observed in the ocean. when a whale dies 1 of 2 things will happen depending on how deep the whale is in the ocean at time of death. it will either float to the top, because the atmopshereic pressure is not strong enough to push the corpse down. or if it is deep enough, the atmospheric pressure is strong enough to push the corpse down at the bottom of the ocean.

this is why cannon balls can not sink in mercury. this is why wood floats on water. its a matter of density.

if gravity were a thing clouds would not be able to float, for they weight millions upon millions of pounds of water.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:25:24 2017 No.8959988
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>>8959980
if I took an apple, it would sink any day of the week

if i, without changing its weight, changed its atomic density to match a feather, it would be met with much air resistance, and fall at a much slower rate.

if i changed its atomic density, without changing its weight to the density of helium gas, it would float and rise with a vengeance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:26:46 2017 No.8959989 >>8959980 What decides up for floating/down for falling? Hint: the popular story of where this answer comes from involves an apple

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:26:59 2017 No.8959991 File: 14 KB, 402x125, 1494408183671.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959100 >I a 20 yo dumdum

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:28:05 2017 No.8959995 >>8959999

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:29:21 2017 No.8959998 File: 565 KB, 1020x1486, gravity.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959989 >What decides up for floating/down for falling? density of its atomic structure, and atmospheric pressure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:29:50 2017 No.8959999 >>8959949 >we have there is no we, unless you are a hippie

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:30:52 2017 No.8960001 >>8959998 So why is air at the top to begin with? Hint: something must be pulling dense things down

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:33:06 2017 No.8960006
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>>8960001
>So why is air at the top to begin with?
why does a cannon ball float on top of a pool of mercury?

because its the least dense material, and most objects have such a density that it can push air aside with ease.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:33:22 2017 No.8960007 >>8959948 /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:35:38 2017 No.8960011 >>8960006 So why does a cannon ball go towards the sky instead of downwards? Hint: this remains true if the water is in the middle of a block of lead or suspended in a vacuum

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:38:16 2017 No.8960013 File: 49 KB, 258x300, pope_koran3.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960011 >So why does a cannon ball go towards the sky instead of downwards? Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:41:00 2017 No.8960017 >>8960013 > he quotes the bible > he doesn't realise the Vatican recognises a heliocentric model

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:45:17 2017 No.8960029
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>>8960017
>doesn't realize that I'm belong to the gnostic christians.

>doesn't realize the vatican invented Islam, and the heliocentric model is the foundation of all misinformation and pseudiscience

>he doesn't understand the context of my picture, how the pope is reading the quran, a book of pedophilia, goatfucking, and deception

>he still thinks that space is a vacuum

>he thinks I accept the authority of the child fucking satanic cabal that is the vatican on matters of thinking, and scripture

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:45:57 2017 No.8960033 >>8959973 Fuck off back to vixra, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:47:30 2017 No.8960037 >>8959114 I assume you live in the US. Your country's education system is third world tier, there's nothing you can do. You guys are hopeless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:49:23 2017 No.8960038 >>8959980 >In a vacuum the balloon floats But It doesn't. Actually it would pop, but even if it magically didn't it still would fall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:51:00 2017 No.8960040 >>8960029 Sorry for assuming you were at least smart enough to recognise the bishop of Rome's authority. Anyway, if you're over going full >>>/pol/. If I seal water and a rubber ball in a jar, and turn it upside down, why does the ball go to the top?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 07:52:12 2017 No.8960042 >>8959980 >I don't understand Archimedes' principle.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:01:12 2017 No.8960055
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>>8960040
>appeal to authority
>what is the protestant reformation
>what is several denominations of Christianity regularly call Rome a fraudulent counterfeit of Christianity.

why would I accept the authority of a seat thats been occupied by numerous pedophiles

>Anyway, if you're over going full >>>/pol/. If I seal water and a rubber ball in a jar, and turn it upside down, why does the ball go to the top?

because of buoyancy and atmospheric pressure?

>>8960042
>doesn't understand that Buyoancy and density in relation to atmospheric pressure is how and why objects rise and fall, and has nothing to do with gravity.

>>8960038
whoops. you're right, since there is no atomic matter to support it, the helium will not float. the rest of my post still stands.

see >>8959988

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:03:23 2017 No.8960056 >>8960055 >and has nothing to do with gravity. Wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:06:08 2017 No.8960059 >>8960055 This is a hypothetical airtight jar, with nothing but a rubber ball and water. In fact, I have a perfect glass ball with some water and some air in it. Why does the water fall to the bottom when rotating it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:06:11 2017 No.8960060 File: 73 KB, 564x564, 1491506069110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960056 uh huh.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:09:07 2017 No.8960065
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>>8960059
because the universe comes with an up and down orientation.

the water still has atmospheric pressure. and the ball still has atomic density.

>In fact, I have a perfect glass ball with some water and some air in it. Why does the water fall to the bottom when rotating it?

because denser objects will seek the bottom.

>>So why does a cannon ball go towards the sky instead of downwards?

lets not forget this is the caliber of your questioning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:11:15 2017 No.8960067 >>8960059 >If I seal water and a rubber ball in a jar, and turn it upside down, why does the ball go to the top? this argument in itself does nothing to help the notion that gravity exists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:12:11 2017 No.8960068 >>8959991 Have you ever been in a plane? You can see the curvature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:13:04 2017 No.8960070 File: 47 KB, 564x342, 1491505869299.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960056

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:13:45 2017 No.8960071 >>8960065 I was trying to get into your level, since you seem to be incapable of understanding just how insignificant we are on a universal scale(that increases he significance of god caring for us, it doesn't diminish it).

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:14:07 2017 No.8960072
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>>8960068
topographical maps don't reflect curvature, 2 states have had their maps compiled between Kansas and Florida by a few universities.

both have been found to be flatter than pancakes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:14:49 2017 No.8960075 >>8960070 You do know what magnetic field lines look like, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:15:17 2017 No.8960077 >>8960060 Absolutely retarded. Low tier bait. The atmosphere itself weighs ~6,000,000,000,000,000 tons.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:17:59 2017 No.8960082
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>>8960071
if you had a stairway to heaven you still couldn't get on my level.

>since you seem to be incapable of understanding just how insignificant we are on a universal scale

there are only 2 real views you can have of the world.

that the earth is stationary, covered by a firmament. with the sun and moon revolving around it.

or that the earth is randomly flying through space, covered by an atmosphere that should be in all senses ripped off by the "vaccum" of space" following the sun at 66,000 miles per hour, while the sun is going a further 1 million miles per hour.

>(that increases he significance of god caring for us, it doesn't diminish it)

this is some autistic level thinking. this would also make God a liar, since he clearly states the earth does not move, and is fixed on foundations.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:19:36 2017 No.8960083 >>8960082 You forgot that the sun is orbiting a black whole in the middle of The Milky Way, which is even faster still.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:22:02 2017 No.8960084 File: 2.47 MB, 4773x6794, only correct.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960077 and yet there is only 14 pounds per square inch of atmospheric pressure. >>8960075 yes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:23:43 2017 No.8960085 >>8960084 Hey look, that map distorts shit. How do you explain cartographic projections, and their accuracy/lack thereof?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:26:08 2017 No.8960087 File: 1.29 MB, 1920x1200, dont even know.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960083 yup, ever download stelarium? the pyramids were built on a geocentric cosmology, as were most major world monuments.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:27:52 2017 No.8960089 >>8960087 How are the pyramids being built based on the stars moving in the sky relative to a rotating earth related to cartographic distortion?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:29:56 2017 No.8960091 File: 36 KB, 450x225, distorts.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960085 >hey look that map distorts shit >How do you explain cartographic projections, and their accuracy/lack thereof? can you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:32:23 2017 No.8960092 >>8960091 Yes, the earth is a spheroid and it's quite literally impossible to project a spheroid onto a 2D net without distortion.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:33:28 2017 No.8960094
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>>8960089
the people who made pyramids that make Venus, Mars, and Saturn align with their points thought the earth was a stationary object, and flat as a pancake.

thats pretty impressive IMHO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:34:46 2017 No.8960097 File: 250 KB, 575x862, yggdrasiltree2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960092 ok, explain to me why topographical maps don't reflect curvature in any way, shape, or form.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:35:53 2017 No.8960098 >>8960072 >source: aplanetruth Wew, lad. How about you make a rocket yourself (5k$ feasible) and verify it? Or ask people who fly fighter jets. Or fly a fucking plane and look out of the window.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:39:07 2017 No.8960100 File: 58 KB, 500x397, pear.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960098 wew lad, its like there are much simpler ways to prove there is no curvature considering it follows an equation and everything.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:39:19 2017 No.8960101

>>8960094

They tracked the motion of the stars. Here's how to make something that aligns with the sun with just a pole and paint:

1) Acquire patch of concrete with a pole in the middle.

2) Every day for one year, at noon, paint a circle on the ground at the tip of the pole's shadow.

3) You now have a map of where the sun will be at noon, relative to your pole and the ground.

4) Pick a day's circle, and run a string from the top of the pole to the circle.

5) Suspend rings around the string.

6) The sun will shine through those rings into the ground at noon once a year.

7) Repeat for other celestial bodies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:41:27 2017 No.8960104 File: 2.91 MB, 1600x1034, egypt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960101 yes, not only did they track the motion of the stars, they understood the platform they were viewing it on was stationary. good job.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:42:33 2017 No.8960105

>>8960097

Because they're for local purposes. Each equidistant line is relative to just it's adjacent ones, and curvature is dispersed across all of them.

How do you explain accurate predictions of the changing magnetic north without a spherical earth?

>>8960100

The "pear shape" is slight. He was just trying to sound cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:43:21 2017 No.8960107 >>8960100 There are. But these retard don't believe in photos nor equations. Seeing it with their own eyes is about the only thing that might convince them (even though i doubt it).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:43:45 2017 No.8960108 >>8960104 So why does the method I described produce a figure 8 and not a circle? It's almost as if the earth is rotated(by 28 degrees) and orbiting he sun.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:45:48 2017 No.8960109
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>>8959091
>What is a proof even a total idiot cannot deny?

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Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:49:35 2017 No.8960111
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>>8960105

>Because they're for local purposes. Each equidistant line is relative to just it's adjacent ones, and curvature is dispersed across all of them.

>>8960072
topographical maps don't reflect curvature, 2 states have had their maps compiled between Kansas and Florida by a few universities.

both have been found to be flatter than pancakes.

>How do you explain accurate predictions of the changing magnetic north without a spherical earth?

because they take data from the past, and try to model it on how it will look and change? and who says they're accurate?

Homer, and the ancients weren't some backwards savages that couldn't figure out the earth wasn't a ball. there's been a deliberate attempt at active disinformation. Plato and Aristole, students of Pythagoras stated the earth was stationary, but a sphere. Homer thought the earth was a flat disc, and some other guy thought it was a flat square.

one of these people are right, and its not plato, aristole, nor was it pythagoras.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:49:53 2017 No.8960112 >>8960108 Here's a video of the same effect(with an explanation in the description). I couldn't find someone doing it with a stick, although it does work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:50:17 2017 No.8960114 >>8960107 >admitting easily-doctored data and meaningless symbolic reductions dictate your thinking

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:56:41 2017 No.8960121

>>8960111

1) Topographical maps disperse curvature because each line is equidistant to the adjacent ones, not every other line.

2) Read the above properly.

3) But magnetic north is moving south, so modelling data would give inaccurate results in the arctic. Also, recording that data for each seperate location would be insanely expensive.

4) Out of the Greeks you listed, one fathered modern philosophy(political, ethical and espistemogy), one is the father of modern mathematics(geometry and irrational numbers), and one wrote a few ok books. Which one is really the most scientifically knowledgable?

Also
> Plato and Aristotle, students of Pythagoras
Please look at the birth/death dates on Wikipedia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:57:43 2017 No.8960124 >>8960112 https://youtu.be/jQT5XRdrqvw Whoops.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 08:57:59 2017 No.8960125
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>>8960112
this still doesn't prove motion of the earth, and you can easily verify that the sun is much smaller, and much closer than you've been led to believe.

>>8960114
>really activates my almonds

>pic realted
>all these people were backwards savages, and had no grasp on the way the universe worked
>we're so much more enlightened today than they were yesterday, thats why we have to pay for water.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:00:29 2017 No.8960126 >>8959164 >t. 4chan shutin

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:02:21 2017 No.8960128

>>8960125

It quite literally demonstrates that the earth is a sphere, on an angle, orbiting the sun. You can use our knowledge of the distances to predict the angle of this effect at various location.

> have to pay for water

Oh man, I sure am angry that I have to pay for purified water instead of spending time getting the shit out myself.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:06:02 2017 No.8960134
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>>8960121
>1) Topographical maps disperse curvature because each line is equidistant to the adjacent ones, not every other line.

they probably disperse curvature because there is no curvature.

>
4) Out of the Greeks you listed, one fathered modern philosophy(political, ethical and espistemogy), one is the father of modern mathematics(geometry and irrational numbers), and one wrote a few ok books. Which one is really the most scientifically knowledgable?

Pythagoras thought when you farted you lost part of your soul.

>4) Out of the Greeks you listed, one fathered modern philosophy(political, ethical and espistemogy), one is the father of modern mathematics(geometry and irrational numbers)

both of these points are invalid since they thought the earth was stationary. and none of them fathered anything. Geometry and irrational numbers were found in Egypt before Greece. Geometry is the bassis of the pyramids, and you can calculate irrational numbers like Pi off the dimensions of the pyramids.

greece wasn't the only place to come to the "conclusion" of philosophy, it was in Sumar, Babylon, India, and China long before the greeks rolled around.

this was "we wuz kangz" tier.

infact the mathematics of the Sumerians are honestly more fluid than any system devised today, the same can be said for Vedic math.

"muh scientific knowledge"

the implication of the heliocentric model being a fraud means that all science is basically pseudoscience, and evolution is among that description.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:07:26 2017 No.8960135 >>8959091 You can launch them into orbit. Or better into sun.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:14:22 2017 No.8960144

>>8960134

I don't care how fucking smart you think you are, there's a reason you know the names of Plato and Pythagoras.

Plato is part of a clearly traceable philosophical tradition which goes through St Augustine and pervades all Christian thought today. His idea of the forms is quite literally the basis of all today's knowledge.

Pythagoras formalised shit like nobody else. I don't care what "magic ratios" you can find in the pyramids, he Pythagoreans systematically proved the existence of numbers which were not fractional integers. That is fucking huge.

> mah fluidity

> fluid mathematics

Please repeat High School and take some real subjects.

Since you didn't pass high school, how do you think a fucking GPS works(even in the ocean)?

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:14:46 2017 No.8960145

>>8960128
there is no optical experiment that can demonstrate motion of the earth.

not even the greatest physicsts of our time could find one

>inb4 pendulum
not reliable since it can fail to start moving, or rotate the wrong way, and does not reflect motion of the earth, it only reflects latitude changes, which are its only variable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:15:56 2017 No.8960148 >>8960145 Why do latitude changes effect it? It couldn't be that the earth is a sphere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:17:34 2017 No.8960149 >>8959261 What is the mechanism for the sun and moon revolving overhead?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:17:36 2017 No.8960150 >>8960145 You can drop a ball from a tower, the Coriolis effect will have it be deflected from landing right beneath where it was dropped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:19:53 2017 No.8960152 >>8959929 i think it just disproved itself right there

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:26:22 2017 No.8960156 >>8960060 >i've never seen rain in my life

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:31:45 2017 No.8960168

>>8960144
>there's a reason you know the names of Plato and Pythagoras.

yes, jews.

>Plato is part of a clearly traceable philosophical tradition which goes through St Augustine and pervades all Christian thought today. His idea of the forms is quite literally the basis of all today's knowledge.

catholic detected.

look, I really want you to take a step backwards. the Christian Doctrine, as well as every single religious doctrine states that the earth is stationary, covered by a firmament, fixed upon foundations, and is a circle.

and Augstine was a cultural marxist. there is nothing incredibly enlightening about his works, and I find it ironic he was part of the campaign against the gnostic christians despite the fact he quotes from the Gospel of Thomas.

>Pythagoras formalised shit like nobody else. I don't care what "magic ratios" you can find in the pyramids

you are a fool.

>Pythagoreans systematically proved the existence of numbers which were not fractional integers. That is fucking huge.

ok, so did the Vedics several hundred years before he was born. the Vedics did this in the 8th century BC, and possibly earlier. whats your point?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:34:52 2017 No.8960174 >>8960168 Again, since you managed to miss the last two millenia of intellectual progress, I'm trying something else. How does GPS work(even in the oceans)?

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:35:07 2017 No.8960175
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>>8960144
>Since you didn't pass high school, how do you think a fucking GPS works(even in the ocean)?

Sattelites bounce signals off the firmament, and 1500 foot radio towers.

>>8960148
> It couldn't be that the earth is a sphere.

no, it couldn't.

>>8960152
>you have to know the geocentric model in order to disprove it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:36:18 2017 No.8960177 >>8960175 Please define satellite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:37:21 2017 No.8960178 File: 60 KB, 430x433, baller.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960177 the picture I linked. and not fictional objects flying through space. hence the bouncing off the firmament part.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:40:02 2017 No.8960181 >>8960175 >it disproved itself right there

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:41:46 2017 No.8960182
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>>8960144
I don't care how fucking smart you think you are, there's a reason you know the names of Plato and Pythagoras.

also I'd like to point out there's nothing special about their schools of thought, nor what they did, everything that they did had been done earlier in other ancient civilizations. their words have been pre-spoken, and both received training from Egypt.

>>8960181
w/e you say fuccboi.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:42:56 2017 No.8960185

>>8960178

Those are radar dishes, and I was referring specifically to the way that every single GPS uses mathematics based on a spherical earth and orbiting satellites, and somehow remains accurate.

http://www.nbmg.unr.edu/staff/pdfs/Blewitt%20Basics%20of%20gps.pdf

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:44:23 2017 No.8960188 >>8960175 GPS and other satellites move. As in VERY FAST. How do you account for that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:45:10 2017 No.8960189 >>8960182 > studied in Egypt Sauce? I was under the impression that Plato at least was trained wholly by Socrates. Hence why Socrates is in so many of his dialogues, and no non-Greeks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:47:20 2017 No.8960192 Why can't you see the other side of the donut in the OP pic? Like, if I'm inside a donut, and look past the moon, I should see Australia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:48:51 2017 No.8960194 >>8960192 Because space is dark.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:49:10 2017 No.8960195

>>8960188'>>8960185
sattelites don't exist
hoax, why don't they melt in the thermosphere which is 2,000 degreres? why don't they ever suffer damage from excessive heating and cooling? why don't they ever fall out of the sky? or why you can't see any of them in space?

GPS works off of cellphone towers.

there are supposedly THOUSANDS of GPS satellites, but trying to prove they exist leaves you fruitless.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:49:32 2017 No.8960196

>>8960185
Another anon here. My friend writes software for dishes that automatically track satellites. Their position is calvulated models such as SDP4, SGP4 and others, which are based on the WGS that assumes Earth is ellipsoid. He claims the results are extremely accurate. Is he right, or is he "in" on the conspiracy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:50:39 2017 No.8960198 >>8960189 he studied in egypt for 13 years after the death of Socrates. i believe he also traveled through babylonia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:51:52 2017 No.8960201 >>8960195 B-b-ut anon, t-the GPS works in the ocean. >>8960196 The paper I linked details a set of models based on an ellipsis earth which are the underlying ideas behind GPS. He's right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:51:54 2017 No.8960202 >>8960196 I wouldn't trust him, just to be sure. But he's probably just being lied to just like you.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:57:22 2017 No.8960208

>>8960201
you still can't prove there are sattelites in the thermosphere which is 2,000 degrees Celsius, or 3600 degrees Fahrenheit. those objects wouldn't work under extreme heating and cooling from 500 degrees C to 2000 degrees C, the technology just simply does not work.

GPS is ground based, ,off of ground based technology.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 09:57:49 2017 No.8960209 >>8959091 The earth is round and flat at the same time. Think of it as a lens

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 10:04:54 2017 No.8960217

>>8959091
Should be straight forward. You need at least two "flat" charts to form a distance preserving map of a geodesic. If the earth was flat, it could be mapped with a single chart. Show that a single chart is not consistent with the measured distances on the earth.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 10:06:14 2017 No.8960220
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Why are you guys so invested in the shape of the Earth? There is plenty of free Information in the marketplace of knowledge that could support a round Earth just as much as a flat Earth, just as much as a hypercube Earth, as a synthesis of the previous two and as antithesis to both, or even a torus Earth, a rhombus, a dodecahedron, whatever. It doesn't matter.

Even if the sanctioned model happens to correspond with the actual shape of the Earth, if there even is such a thing, both it and the Earth itself are no less absurd than all the marginalized models and hypothetical Earths they describe. The external world is a circus. There is nothing there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 10:12:35 2017 No.8960226 The best thing about this flat earth meme is that it exposes brainlets who can't prove the earth is spherical.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 10:14:10 2017 No.8960229
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>>8959091
>science says hot air goes up cold air goes down
>also says the earth is round
Nobody realized the contradiction that if the first and the second statements are true the lower part of the round earth will be completely frozen since all the cold air will gather there? I get it some people are really brainwashed but there's gotta be limits to obliviousness. Pic related rough ms but you should understand how ridiculous it is if it's difficult to imagine and you need pictures like a kid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 11:27:10 2017 No.8960334 >>8959904 >Curvitchure

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 11:30:56 2017 No.8960340 >>8959973 Like you denying that you have a flawed understanding of physics? Remember that time your paper got laughed at and the guy reviewing it called your mom? Hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 11:35:07 2017 No.8960345 >>8960070 >A compass never shows north as being down But that's wrong. Look up the design of compass used in aircraft. They account for the vertical component of the earth's magnetic field.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 12:02:30 2017 No.8960385 >>8959929 Wouldn't nights be twice longer than days if that was the case?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 12:09:40 2017 No.8960399 >>8959937 Two suns.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 12:10:48 2017 No.8960405 why would you stop it? are you all so fucking insecure you can't accept some people are retarded? it's amusing as fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 12:12:40 2017 No.8960407 >>8959091 Tides on a non windy day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 12:17:01 2017 No.8960412 I am convinced an actual flatearther has never been to 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 12:25:55 2017 No.8960431 >>8959956 Whatever it is, I won't watch it. I can feel my brain cells dying just by looking at the thumbnail

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 13:00:43 2017 No.8960493 >>8960412 Probably they don't believe in the internet too, because it's all an illuminati conspiracy, or some other crackpot bullshit

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 13:18:59 2017 No.8960515
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>hurr all pics from the ISS are done with a curved lens to artifically create a curvature

Then how do they explain this https://youtu.be/FF36XCcs8cM

That clearly shows stright lines from the ISS from the Canadarm in front of the slight visible curvature of the Earth at that Field of view, and the arms are not bended in any way, the lens is not curved to exaggerate, how do they explain this?

This video was just from yesterdays CRS 11 capture aboard ISS and just another example of how absolutely retarded flat Earthers can be when the truth is so easily available and you just have to seek it out, but I bet they'll find some way to explain away the curvature visible in this video even still, even though the objects on the ISS that are intersecting Earth are not themselves curved they will find a convenient convoluted explanation to justify their delusions.

While the rest of us rational people can just enjoy a comfy video from the ISS of the latest cargo capture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 13:25:50 2017 No.8960521 >>8960229 >the lower part of the round earth Can anybody really be this stupid? Maybe a dumb 9-year old would buy that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 13:28:38 2017 No.8960524 >>8960208 >thermosphere which is 2,000 degrees At that altitude the individual gas atoms are very hot but very far apart, so the effective temperature is actually cold.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 13:30:52 2017 No.8960526
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>>8959091
>What is a proof even a total idiot cannot deny?

Of course, if they believe in something as silly and impossible to fake and keep hidden as flat earth then they likely also believe in the moon landing hoax conspiracy theory at which point their level of intelligence and critical thinking is to be marked as unsalvageable and they are to be ignored or ridiculed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 13:31:59 2017 No.8960529 File: 724 KB, 3072x2098, s124e006374.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 13:34:30 2017 No.8960532 File: 187 KB, 1041x1562, 557343main_iss027e036700_full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 13:37:03 2017 No.8960537
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Oh shit look at that, the curvature of the Earth is clearly visible and yet the solar arrays of the Progress spacecraft are not themselves curved, so its not like the curves of the Earth are being faked, as with photomanipulation or curved lenses, its almost as if the surface of the Earth is curved, and the surface of the solar arrays is flat and level.

Really makes you think.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 14:36:19 2017 No.8960614 >>8959351 Thank you. I'm glad someone on /sci/ knows what they're fucking talking about. Everyone else in the thread go hang yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 14:40:37 2017 No.8960622 >>8960006 Holy shit we know what density is you clown, what keeps the atmosphere on earth?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 14:44:12 2017 No.8960627 >>8960385 that's actually true.

>>	Plato Tue Jun 6 14:46:35 2017 No.8960632 >>8959091 i remember this philosophy teacher that tried to prove us earth was flat with "philosophical" arguments

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 14:50:52 2017 No.8960634

Here's the one paragraph proof you were looking for:

Sunrises and sunsets on the heliocentric model don't work. If the sun stayed at the same height and only appeared to descend due to moving away from the viewer towards the vanishing point then it would have to become smaller. Instead it sinks below the horizon, not towards it, always at the same size.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:01:14 2017 No.8960657 >>8960149 God

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:03:53 2017 No.8960663 >>8960622 gravity you dense fucker

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:07:31 2017 No.8960667 >>8959091 Total idiots can deny anything. Maybe I can do something easier for you, like climb up my own ass?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:08:44 2017 No.8960670 >>8960082 Yes, and the weight of a cloud is spread out over miles. You're forgetting how large clouds are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:17:49 2017 No.8960689 >>8960013 >>8960029 Wow, talk about changing the subject

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:21:14 2017 No.8960697

>>8959091
Given that the whole "belief" in flat Earth is based on claiming the overwhelming evidence is faked as part of some pointless but huge and centuries-old conspiracy, there is no proof that would be accepted.

Fortunately, it is almost entirely trolling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:23:35 2017 No.8960708 >>8959295 That must be why we see so many toroidal stars and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:24:16 2017 No.8960710 >>8959295 I guess, but it would be impossible to form at earths scale.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:27:16 2017 No.8960722
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>>8959954
Spotlight would have to do something like this --someday I will get around to doing a less rushed version -- to explain midnight sun in southern latitudes. But spotlights do not do that. Therefore...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:29:10 2017 No.8960724 File: 68 KB, 800x1071, gir_crazy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959980 >in the vacuum ... the balloon floats up. NO IT DOESN'T!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:32:43 2017 No.8960728 >>8959965 not according to any of them does the sun go under the disk. That still doesn't explain how the horizon obscures stationary objects supposedly on top of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:34:20 2017 No.8960732 >>8960125 >you can easily verify that the sun is much smaller, and much closer than you've been led to believe. Lack of explanation for how you would do this noted.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:38:53 2017 No.8960743

>>8960195
>why don't they melt in the thermosphere which is 2,000 degreres?

Because, just going out on a limb here, it doesn't exist.

>why don't they ever suffer damage from excessive heating and cooling?

They do.

>why don't they ever fall out of the sky?

They do

>.or why you can't see any of them in space?

You can: http://www.satobs.org/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:40:27 2017 No.8960747 >>89600xx >because the universe comes with an up and down orientation. (You)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:42:49 2017 No.8960752 >>8960182 >Egypt ayo hol up r u sayin socrates n playdoh wuz kangz n sheit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:51:06 2017 No.8960762 File: 5 KB, 190x153, Apu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960029 >thinks demiurge is Jesus >calls himself gnostic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:52:41 2017 No.8960763 File: 47 KB, 480x360, for-retards-only.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960013 Now THIS is true wisdom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHkiZNT3cyE

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:56:20 2017 No.8960772 >>8960763 borat narrated this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:57:35 2017 No.8960774 the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits -not einstein

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 15:59:32 2017 No.8960779 File: 986 KB, 500x278, 1423091267807.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For me, it's Flat Earth!

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:02:02 2017 No.8960783

>>8960082
>that would make God a liar

Which he is

"20 And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee."

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:10:44 2017 No.8960797 >>8960125 >dome shaped Hindu earth Those Vedas were some smart fuckers for their day

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:18:27 2017 No.8960806 >>8960175 You have to know its full of shit before you even want to disprove it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:22:07 2017 No.8960811 File: 105 KB, 730x1095, Bananaearth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960192 Nobody is saying the earth is a donut. Lets not get into that business. its clearly a nanner

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:24:44 2017 No.8960818 >>8959929 how does this explain full moons n shit? is this really the model?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:27:51 2017 No.8960825 >>8960229 >hurr durr center of mass dont real

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:28:30 2017 No.8960829

>>8959261

I have always wondered what kind of mechanism flatRetardthers propose for day/night cycles.

If the disc is spinning on itself then at some point the shadows projected by the Sun would be totally long

If the Sun is revolting on top of the disc then we cannot have nights.

I just cannot grasp what kind of fantastical story they have created to explain it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:28:48 2017 No.8960830 >>8960385 That's a great observation. Also, the variation in daytime in north and soith hemispheres and polar days/polar nights, which are experienced by many towns inside the polar circle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:29:39 2017 No.8960831 File: 71 KB, 600x600, CXVKPAjVAAAORPL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959904 they'll just say he's a CIA psychological operative

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:33:07 2017 No.8960835

>>8959091
>What is a proof even a total idiot cannot deny?

Anon, is like you don't understand that idiots are very ingenious and no matter what you show them they will always point out the slightest "crack" in your proofs to prove themselves right.

Its a lost battle, post natal eugenics is the only solution

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:35:12 2017 No.8960841 Do flat earthers think the sun is flat?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:36:54 2017 No.8960848 File: 12 KB, 420x277, myCn18.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960708 umm, anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:42:44 2017 No.8960859 >>8959091 If gravitation, then what's the most likely shape to emerge given infinite time? If no gravitation, how come we don't float?>>8959091

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:43:29 2017 No.8960861

>>8960829
most of them are too stupid to think about anything critically. Some of them are just crazy and come up with internally consistent and relatively efficient models that the former group uses as argument from authority while understanding nothing and maintaining their much simpler explanations. What bothers me is that none of these people are even trusting their own eyes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:45:44 2017 No.8960864 >>8960848 >Oh shit... You mind if I save this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:45:56 2017 No.8960865 File: 7 KB, 300x168, imagess.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm8eSx2qWtk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:47:08 2017 No.8960867 >>8960864 no, I got it from my private picture tracker first page of Google images.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 16:50:48 2017 No.8960874 >>8960848 Looks like a goatse

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 17:02:44 2017 No.8960891 >>8959091 Well I mean technically life itself is flat so a flat earth is technically correct.

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 22:31:28 2017 No.8961408

>>8960125
>people come up with domes
big fucking woop

when I was a kid during a road trip I observed how the sky seemed like a dome. Its a matter of how the experience is. Look at the scale of everything though, it's a local view, not global. It represents the first person theater. Not the fucking actual world.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 6 22:36:49 2017 No.8961420 >>8959091 >H-hey guys I'm sick of getting owned by my redpilled friend, can you help me maintain my delusion of the spherical planet?

Anonymous Tue Jun 6 22:57:45 2017 No.8961460

>>8959114
don't be friends with retards lol, my friends are largely brainlets and normies but I'm confident that none will ever believe that the Earth is flat. I've seen most of them ridicule it before, actually. Why are you friends with people who completely lack critical thought?

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 02:45:56 2017 No.8961689
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their newest focus is on "space is not real, any EVA footage of nasa/esa/roscosmos/jaxa/cnsa astronauts were done in the same swimming pools with "ultra clear water", the air bubbles prove it."

seriously.. they saw some underwater neutral buoyancy training session and took it as proof that this is the way they fake space walks, not realizing that each astronaut needs 2 divers assisting him by moving weights around his body whenever he changes orientation, to maintain neutral buoyancy. also they think there is a pool with "ultra clear water" which has no refractive properties at all.

they totally discard the fact, that an astronauts head appears to be tiny when watched through his visor underwater.
and the sheer impossibility to prevent any bubbling in a pool just reinforces their arguments, forgetting that the amount of bubble prevention they claim in EVA footage is not doable. they point at random debris which gets lose and call it an air bubble.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=space+airbubbles

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 02:51:47 2017 No.8961695
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>>8961689
>astronauts head appears to be tiny when watched through his visor underwater

"bu..but they just put a magnifying lens if front of their faceplate, to magnify their heads when going live on tv! you have no argument"

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 02:53:48 2017 No.8961697

>>8959091
Nobody gives one fuck about the theory, but, a big but,

Spherical Earth disproves the bible,
flat earth at least does not disprove bible.

Some tarts think flat earth proves God, but then again, they also think, well, flat earth because reasons.

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:07:37 2017 No.8961704

>>8960208

> You still can't prove there are satellites in the thermosphere which is 2,000 degrees Celsius

Yes, I can. All I have to do is look up when the ISS is overhead. It's clearly visible to the naked eye, but just in case you doubt me go buy a $30 pair of binoculars and look at it yourself next time it's over wherever you live and you'll clearly be able to see it's a space station and not an aeroplane.

As for "2,000 degrees celsius", dunno if you got the memo but space is both cold, and a vacuum. That's above the thermosphere.

And another thing - it actually doesn't matter what temperature space is. It could be 500 degrees, 2000 degrees, or -270 degrees. Because it's a vacuum, anything sitting in it stays the same temperature because of a lack of conduction for heat transfer. ;

GPS is not ground based; it works in the ocean.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:08:56 2017 No.8961707 >>8960195 Anon just go outside next time the ISS is above you and you'll be able to see it overhead with the naked eye. > You can't prove it's not an aeroplane! Buy a telescope or a pair of binoculars and it'll become pretty obvious it's not a plane.

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:13:41 2017 No.8961709

>>8960091

> can you?

Your map equates the length of Australia to the length of Russia. Ask anyone who's driven from one side to the other of both whether or not one of those journeys was longer than the other, and you'll observe pretty quickly that your map doesn't stack up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:20:49 2017 No.8961712 File: 832 KB, 400x288, tenor.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8961709 this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:24:40 2017 No.8961715 >>8961697 You are truly unintelligent. Interpreting something as "lawful stupid" as possible is no indictment and if you were clever you would know we knew just that

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:29:23 2017 No.8961716 >>8961707 when is it above me? i so want to see it >t. not a flat-tard

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:30:47 2017 No.8961717 >>8959123 Do you realize how enormous the earth is do you believe each country is only like 100 miles? Are you retarded? End your life asap

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:30:52 2017 No.8961718 >>8961704 when? >>8961716

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:31:25 2017 No.8961719 File: 8 KB, 260x194, diagnosis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8961689 These people have air bubbles in their Brains.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:33:04 2017 No.8961720 >>8961716 >>8961718 http://www.isstracker.com/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 03:42:49 2017 No.8961730 >>8961720 thanks my man <3

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 06:28:52 2017 No.8961833 >>8959351 hmmm.... thats a good idea for a custom planet in space engineers

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 07:44:19 2017 No.8961898 >>8959956 Is this real ? I fucking hate all of you for not stopping this shit, you shiteaters

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 08:05:02 2017 No.8961923 >>8960060 >"what is fog"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 08:14:56 2017 No.8961934 Reading this thread made my brain hurt and severely decreased my will to live on this planet. thanks /sci/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 08:37:58 2017 No.8961960 >>8961934 The other side of the debate is despicable people like this >>8929445 We've got to take a stance against these barbaric views and make sure the rights of flat Earth theorist are respected.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 08:40:25 2017 No.8961963 >>8961960 We need to kill off all the round earther scum trolls

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 08:45:07 2017 No.8961972 >>8960065 Flata-earthers don't believe in no gravity - they actually believe in universal gravitation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 08:45:48 2017 No.8961974 >>8961963 Round Earth theorists are not an oppressed minority, so I can't necessarily be opposed to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 08:57:04 2017 No.8961986 >>8960084 >only 14 pounds per square inch Actually it's closer to 15 pounds Anyway a square mile is over 4 billion square inches And I imagine a million pound cloud is pretty well spread out. The air beneath it is simply heavier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 09:11:38 2017 No.8962005 >>8959263 >Flat earthers >Black Most of them are uneducated rust-belt whites anon

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 10:04:52 2017 No.8962046
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>>8959091
Sunsets

We know that the only explanation for the color change seen during sunsets is light bending from travelling through the atmosphere at an angle, an angle which is explained by round earth.

If they say "No, God changed the light's color" then I don't know what to say.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 16:04:39 2017 No.8962518 >>8959091 >even a total idiot cannot deny? There's your problem. A total idiot can deny anything.

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 16:51:47 2017 No.8962597

>>8960762
well, pretty sure the Demiurge is Yaldaboath. and pretty sure the gnostic gospels make a BIG deal about the difference between Saboath Yahweh, and the Demiruge. but its ok, you can make an argument in ignorance.

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

>>8960783
Ahab was a Jew. the OT warns to not consult with mediums, or those who consult with familiar spirits, basically occult thinkers who dabble in sorcery and witchcraft. and you left out the part where Micaiah tells him that all his advisors are being lied to by a deceptive spirit, and that he is going to die if he goes to battle, but thats ok, I don't expect anyone to ever take the full story in account, thats just too much thinking power

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 16:57:14 2017 No.8962608 >>8959949 Don't they think the south pole is actually the circumference of the disk? I guess they would say that no one has gone far enough into the south pole.

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 16:59:56 2017 No.8962615

I saw a faked moon landing video where the person showed a photo of the moon landing and pointed to random shadows and stuff and said "this is a squirrel" and "this is a rabbit" and that these don't exist on the moon so it must be faked. I really hope it was a troll, it's pretty nutty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 17:10:01 2017 No.8962627 >>8960037 >if people don't believe you when you tell them the earth is round, the problem is that they weren't told that it was round in school Retard.

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 17:10:19 2017 No.8962628
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>>8962608
>>8959949
well, whose to say there is an edge to t he flat earth model?

some of us have put together that the earth isn't a planet flying through space, but is the bottom floor the the universe, and the "earth" goes out as far as the universe does, and outside the antarctic ice barrier there are close to infinite more continents and worlds.

also admiral byrd made an expedition "passed" the south pole, and discovered a new continent completely untouched by man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 17:14:21 2017 No.8962632 >>8959327 Passenger planes really haven't gotten any faster, because of laws about sonic booms. You will never have a transcontinental flight over the US in a plane that goes over 330m/s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 17:18:38 2017 No.8962639 >>8962628 How come I can fly all the way around it? If the earth is flat and extends forever, how come if I keep going west I will eventually end up back where I started?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 17:37:35 2017 No.8962669 Satellites wouldn't be feasible, because they rely on the fact that the Earth "falls" away underneath them. They would require more fuel.

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 17:44:41 2017 No.8962686
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>>8962639
answered here http://i.4cdn.org/sci/1496751184698.jpg

if you go west, your compass will always point north. meaning when you correct your course to return to due west, you're going to be traveling in a circle.

i'd be really amazed if you people could learn to figure out these answers for yourself.

you have to know the geocentric model to be able to disprove it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 17:49:46 2017 No.8962694 If you can't find a proof that total idiot cannot deny, then stop accusing people believing in flat earth model.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 17:57:15 2017 No.8962707 >>8962694 That is dumb. If you don't understand something you have grounds to initially disbelieve it, not start believing something else by default.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 18:00:22 2017 No.8962716 >>8962686 >if you go west, your compass will always point north. meaning when you correct your course to return to due west, you're going to be traveling in a circle. How would I not know I was travelling in a circle?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 18:04:57 2017 No.8962725 File: 875 KB, 1121x829, current.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8962716 you tell me, I see people struggle with this concept all the time.

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 18:24:11 2017 No.8962758
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>>8962597
"And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet"
Ezekiel 14:8

"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"
2 Thessalonians 2:11

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 18:39:23 2017 No.8962790 >>8960634 underrated post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 18:47:26 2017 No.8962808 Hey newfag here, just wondering is this a meme or is anybody actually debating this issue? Are there really people out there who think the earth is round?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 19:22:11 2017 No.8962863 >>8960125 oh wow some niggers from a thousand years ago thought the sky was a dome, this is undeniable proof that NASA is lying to us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 19:25:27 2017 No.8962869 >>8960060 >birds flying disproves gravity

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 20:19:07 2017 No.8962951 This experiment proves gravity exists, which disproves flat earth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 21:30:01 2017 No.8963065

>>8960722
Sun being a spotlight and stars being light bulbs I assume you believe there being a sort of dyson sphere around the world?
Now I want you to tell me in all honesty, sun has been recorded being in the sky dating back thousands of years. Are you saying the Etruscans built a superduper wonky ladder and set a big fire in the sky to mimic the sun and then after thousands of years we perfected the fire in the sky by building a big spotlight?

Only other way I can see you justifying it being a spotlight is aliens. They just built the spotlight and left? There are no tangible records of aliens being here on Earth, most of the "sightings" have been proven false.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 21:43:14 2017 No.8963095 I was just in an argument with one. Can anybody hear tell me which methods astronomers have used to measure the orbital velocity sun around the galactic nucleus? The more the better. Googling just turns up numbers without methods.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 22:04:12 2017 No.8963115 >>8959949 Flat Earth theory doesn't say there's an edge. They usually claim there is a wall of ice around the world we know (Antarctica) and beyond that, nobody knows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 22:05:38 2017 No.8963120 Serious question: can I right now, with just a telescope, prove the Earth is round?

Anonymous Wed Jun 7 22:09:34 2017 No.8963125

>>8960634 proves.

We found the solution.

>Here's the one paragraph proof you were looking for:

>Sunrises and sunsets on the heliocentric model don't work. If the sun stayed at the same height and only appeared to descend due to moving away from the viewer towards the vanishing point then it would have to become smaller. Instead it sinks below the horizon, not towards it, always at the same size.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 22:24:13 2017 No.8963149 >>8963120 yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 7 22:28:51 2017 No.8963160 >>8963120 no, but you could prove that it's flat. if you had a giant mirror that was in orbit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 02:18:28 2017 No.8963420 >>8959980 >because there is no air resistance for the feather, and the balloon floats up. Stopped reading there, you should not have dropped out of high school.

Anonymous Thu Jun 8 03:37:38 2017 No.8963522

>>8962758
>"And for this cause God

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

6“Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “Repent and turn away from your idols and turn your faces away from all your abominations. 7“For anyone of the house of Israel or of the immigrants who stay in Israel who separates himself from Me, sets up his idols in his heart, puts right before his face the stumbling block of his iniquity, and then comes to the prophet to inquire of Me for himself, I the LORD will be brought to answer him in My own person. 8“I will set My face against that man and make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from among My people. So you will know that I am the LORD.

>mfw you remove the context

you're a spiritually dishonest person

Anonymous Thu Jun 8 03:52:48 2017 No.8963542
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>>8960818
moon generates its own light. moonlight in no way shape or form has anything to do with the sun

>>8960385
>what is sunrise and sunset
the short answer is no.
the long answer is that the gif is an approximation

>>8960830
sun moves north of the equator, polar towns get extremely long days
sun moves south of the equator, polar towns get extremely long nights. this is also how summer and winter work.

>>8963420
>>8960724
see >>8960055
and see >>8959988
I corrected my mistake. the rest of the post still stands.

here's a question for the rest of you.

Why are there day time Lunar eclipses?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 05:57:07 2017 No.8963643 >>8963522 I don't see how that context changes that he deliberately bestows them with a strong delusion (effectively a lie, but worse)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 08:49:10 2017 No.8963802 >>8959295 >clouds are objects you know they're made out of water droplets which are not physically connected to eachother right anon? they're not candy floss.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 09:29:35 2017 No.8963838 >>8962707 Flat earth model was invented before globe model. I haven't seen any good proofs yet. This is sad. It's like arguing for that climate in changing due humans, but there is no good proofs, just some data-plots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 09:42:03 2017 No.8963858 >>8963802 >you know they're made out of water droplets I think you meant to reply to this >>8960060

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 10:13:16 2017 No.8963894 >>8963858 i think i know who i meant to reply to, moron.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 11:29:29 2017 No.8964023 >>8960100 NDT was retarded for saying the Earth was pear-shaped. It's a sphere that very slightly bulges in the middle. This is what happens when niggers become scientists. Also check those dubs xDDD

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 13:36:32 2017 No.8964219 >>8959091 Why do you want to desperately stop it so badly? Got something to hide?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 13:41:33 2017 No.8964228 File: 55 KB, 667x588, thicc earth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959091 Earth is thicc actually .

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:28:29 2017 No.8964690 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNvKpZmpSmY

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:29:32 2017 No.8964695 >>8964219 Why do you want to desperately disprove it so badly? Got something to hide?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:35:24 2017 No.8964722 >>8964695 answer the damn question OP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:36:54 2017 No.8964727 >>8964722 You first.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:38:29 2017 No.8964736 >>8959261 That wouldn't make timezones.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:41:57 2017 No.8964745 File: 2 KB, 111x94, Anger.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964219 Yeah I'm keeping my collector Nazi UFOs on the underside of the disk.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:42:12 2017 No.8964746 File: 44 KB, 640x426, img_8674.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959323 kek. and were the tin foil cat conspiracy theorists

Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:45:02 2017 No.8964752

>>8959980
>in the vacuum ... and the balloon floats to the top of the room.

No it doesn't. It falls too, also at the same rate as the ball and feather.

>if gravity were a thing clouds would not be able to float, for they weight millions upon millions of pounds of water.

Clouds happen to be less dense than air. Remember that gravity affects air as well. This is why air floats above the ground, it is less than dense than the ground.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:45:14 2017 No.8964755 >>8964690 Fake Video. Got anything else to disprove?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:45:37 2017 No.8964756 >>8962951 that expirement has never been successfully replicated.. see michelson and morely. Sagnacs expiement airys failure disproves gravity and pproves aether and earth is not moving.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:47:54 2017 No.8964767 >>8964756 >disproves gravity Then how come I can't float?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:55:09 2017 No.8964787 >>8964746 >you know that perspective thing I was talking about when you showed me the horizon? Yeah, that doesn't count anymore.

Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:56:20 2017 No.8964792

>>8964767
Your belief in gravity is so strong that you ignore all contrary evidence. Every piece of information we give you is waved away as if we're all part of some grand conspiracy. It's hopeless trying to convince you otherwise but we're just helplessly concerned about snapping you out of your delusions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 16:58:06 2017 No.8964796 >>8964792 >Your belief in gravity is so strong that you ignore all contrary evidence. So if I come to the realisation that gravity is fake, I can gain the ability to float?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:00:30 2017 No.8964801 File: 95 KB, 612x612, NR2GzRNg4b6tAfQ9MrFG_1060654675.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964796 Yes that's what we keep trying to tell you. How else do you explain this picture?

Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:02:45 2017 No.8964805

>>8964801
The picture was faked by NASA.
What people don't know is that they have a secret second company under their wings called NASHA which handles all the Flat-Earth business.
NASA ain't being under-funded, they got all the funds they need from Flat-Earthers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:04:00 2017 No.8964807 >>8964805 And the conspiracy grows...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:05:47 2017 No.8964810 >>8964727 I asked my question first, shill

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:09:50 2017 No.8964822 >>8964767 your body is denser than the surrouding air, which is why helium balloons can float freely and why bugs walk on water..

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:11:23 2017 No.8964824 File: 38 KB, 530x521, 1496859015686.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964787 >thinks everything we see concerning celestial bodies are just optical illusions because relativity. willingly being this blind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:14:16 2017 No.8964829 File: 112 KB, 800x690, 1489505388652.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964824 >relativity What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:17:18 2017 No.8964831 >>8964829 Einstein is a lying jew.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:29:01 2017 No.8964858 File: 2.56 MB, 190x200, 1489372984308.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959956 >Where is "Gravity" now...? >lets go of helium balloon and it flies away

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:32:43 2017 No.8964866 File: 186 KB, 1400x934, fa8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959100 Yes pictures you can't fake those

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:36:10 2017 No.8964876 >>8960728 >not according to any of them does the sun go under the disk. according to me the sun goes under the disc. checkmate athiest

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:39:24 2017 No.8964885 >>8959956 Pretty sure this guy in particular is trolling

Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:41:08 2017 No.8964888

>>8959091
You've been rused and abused.

Flat earth is an academic social experiment. The concept behind it is to reinforce rationality. The people who are devising those most complicated flat earth hypotheses are those who understand the necessity for science to not make assumptions on its previous beliefs, but to always be cross-evaluating new information.

If you come up with a flat earth or torus earth that people have to work very hard to disprove, then you're cultivating a scientific mindset in your targets. If you make one that nobody disproves, then you're bringing the fragility of our assumptions into question.

Yes, you can disprove it by just going up into space and seeing for yourself that it's round, but that's not the point. The point is to expose you to your own blind spots.

Stop treating flat earth as a group of people that need to be told off, and start treating it like something that can and should be qualitatively disproven. If you can't do that, then don't bother entering the discussion.

It's an important practice because this is a fairly sandboxy, safe case. It's easily verifiable. But we're entering an information age where we're carrying a lot of luggage from times past, and there will inevitably be alternate explanations for things that people will inevitably dismiss (e.g. supervoid coolspot on CMB vs statistical anomaly) and the fact that flat earth has any traction, even ironic, shows how prone we are to blind bias. Most of the flat earth posts are like /b/ level trolling, but there are some also that take considerable amounts of effort to evidence against.

If you consider this trolling then you don't understand science. There are scientific ways to discredit something, and there are social ways to dismiss something that you feel isn't worthy of a response. What you do in that regard says a lot about you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:42:42 2017 No.8964891 >>8960042 definition of appeals to authority

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:44:14 2017 No.8964895 >>8961923 why is the fog not rain. density not gravity. >>8961972 no we believe gravity is an illusion created by freemasons and jesuits

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:46:35 2017 No.8964904 >>8959949 thinking there is an edge to fall off of is the real flat earth psyop. making flat earth inconcievable to children, with stories of christopher columbus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:50:28 2017 No.8964909 >>8964690 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMooNFtFJk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ0EKJWyl_g

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:56:25 2017 No.8964919 >>8964909 nice try , heres nasa lying their asses off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMv9YvoXDkE&t=576s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkkLO4oEQS4&t=5s

>>	. Thu Jun 8 17:57:01 2017 No.8964924 >>8960145 Greatest physicists? All physicists agree that Earth is round. Only Flat tards deny all scientific experiments & evidences.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 17:57:55 2017 No.8964925 >>8964919 >>8964915 >>8964813

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 18:18:06 2017 No.8964986 >>8964924 >All physicists agree thinks this is true thinks if this was true it would not be suspicious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 8 21:31:09 2017 No.8965303 >>8960125 many ancient civilizations knew the earth is round

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 00:39:20 2017 No.8965533 >>8959261 How can that explain eclipses?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 00:45:12 2017 No.8965540 >>8964986 Fire is hot, everyone agrees and there's nothing suspicious about that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 00:54:13 2017 No.8965548 >>8965533 it can't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 00:55:33 2017 No.8965553 >>8959091 >What is a proof even a total idiot cannot deny? There is nothing a total idiot cannot deny. We witness it with these threads every freakin' day. Which is a pretty strong indication they're really just trolls.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 06:51:20 2017 No.8965827 >>8962628 The whole sun/moon model just suddenly got a LOT more complicated. Come back when you can actually predict physical phenomenon observed in the real world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 07:32:15 2017 No.8965866 File: 142 KB, 910x480, 11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964746 >Show me where these tracks converge >Trains are illuminati conspiracy confirmed!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 10:43:41 2017 No.8966097 File: 50 KB, 640x478, HesRight.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964888 Underrated post.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 14:08:26 2017 No.8966375 >>8965540 People who study processes in the heart of stars and such would view simple fire as relatively cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 19:25:04 2017 No.8967059 File: 353 KB, 1209x808, 1495420159815 (2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964888 >If you can't do that, then don't bother entering the discussion. Fuck you, I do what I want.

Anonymous Fri Jun 9 23:36:49 2017 No.8967416

>>8963542

When the Moon passes in front of the Sun in relation to an observer on the ground, the sun's light is blocked and therefore you can't see it.

Conversely, when the Earth passes between the Sun and the Moon it blocks the Sun's light from hitting the Moon, resulting in an eclipse. If Earth didn't have an atmosphere the moon would just go dark, but what happens instead is the air bends red light at the terminator where the sun is shining most obliquely through the atmosphere and illuminates the Moon briefly with a reddish glow.

Anonymous Fri Jun 9 23:38:50 2017 No.8967418

>>8964746

Looking down lengthwise at a set of thousand kilometer long shadows in atmospheric haze and they'll appear to converge quickly, but know their actual length and use basic geometry and you'll find that they do in fact take ~93 million miles to converge.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 9 23:40:46 2017 No.8967422 >>8964824 >when someone shines a flashlight througha fog bank in my direction, why is the light in front of the fog? Fuck off, the Sun is brighter than a welder's torch, it can shine through thin clouds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 00:55:52 2017 No.8967480 File: 104 KB, 650x488, crepuscular1606_650x488.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8967418 Eratosthenes did not know light was refracted from 93 million miles away, therefore his measurements were wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 00:56:54 2017 No.8967483 File: 95 KB, 736x736, 6aea6b44f9730ebfcfb059b74cdbfeb7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8967422

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 00:58:34 2017 No.8967487 File: 94 KB, 863x542, everest flat earth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8967418

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 01:43:08 2017 No.8967560 >>8964895 >gravity is an illusion So if they lift their spell or stop concentrating do we all drift away?

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 02:46:05 2017 No.8967627
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>>8967560
No, there is no spinning ball. That is the great illusion. Density, and electromagnetism are active measurable forces.

The reason for the ball is to make people think men can become like gods and conquer the heavens, and instills in them this ideology of constant progress which drives the capitalist.

The big G in freemasonry is the spell on the human mind on the way they concieve the world around them into a paradigm.

It's mostly /his/ who discovered most of the scientific revolution hidden information and discoveries while looking into antarctica expeditions

.you can't say it's only christfags, because even the sjw pope says its a ball because he's a Jesuit.

In 1500 post reformation ,Gravity replaces "god", or "I don't know" as an answer to difficult questions involving time and space that require astronomy or geometry to answer, which easily leads to theological education.

All the theories surrounding gravity will never prove Cavendish expirement or Newton's theories correct.

There is too much opposing evidence against the ball and the manner in which ball earthers debate flat earther's is simply appeals to authority and ad hominem,

It's worth looking to. But it's rough when you see cognitive dissonance at work trying to protect the mind of a person who was conditioned from birth to believe in Santa, tooth fairy, christopher columbus, and the globe.

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