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So, like ten years ago, climate change or global warming or whatever was an accepted fact.
And now it's not.

Why did we regress?
>pic unrelated chosen at random

>> No.8787740

>>8787726
None of the predictions came true

Everyone realised it's just over-hyped politicised Jewery

People have more to worry about in their daily lives than keeping a harmless, invisible trace gas from increasing slightly in concentration

>> No.8787744

>>8787740
A bit of this, mix with the anti-scientific attitude being spread about. Then bake for about 10 years and you have your answer cake senpai

>> No.8787746

It became political.

>> No.8787748
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[math]\color{red} {\textbf{PLEASE REPORT AND HIDE INSTEAD OF ENGAGING THE POLTARDS}}[/math]

>> No.8787749

>>8787726
Who is this semon demon?
>>8787740
>None of the predictions came true
But isn't that because we did something against climate change? Not every country of course, countries like China or the US probably didn't care. But European countries did a lot to reduce their carbon footprint

>> No.8787752

>>8787749
>But isn't that because we did something against climate change?

We've done quite literally nothing for climate change, only made it worse.

Our CO2 output (global) is still accelerating - so how could that explain it?

>> No.8787776

>>8787752
Agreed. Very few countries are actually making a gross reduction in their CO2 production. The rest are pulling media stunts to win points but aren't actually making any changes.

Source: I'm Australian, we're pros at that

>> No.8787867

>>8787776
Same.
Thank fuck we have a fairly low population, if it were several hundred million we probably would have killed the world already.

>> No.8787872

Oh don't you worry. You'll live to see some shit.

>> No.8787883

>>8787740
>None of the predictions came true
lol k
>>8787726
amerijews finding excuses to keep polluting and keeping dat GDP high

>> No.8787891

>>8787752
>>8787740
Many of the predictions have actually came true. People just cherry pick some of the worst-case-scenario ones which had low likelihoods of happening by now anyway and flaunt them as reasons climate change is a fallacy. Climate change is happening, and its being driven by carbon and other greenhouse gas emissions: dont get that confused with far more unpredictable flow on effects of climate change.

What worries me the most is our HUGE infrastructure investments in certain areas where the regionally climates may shift dramatically making them far less habitable and reduce nearby arable land far less productive. That combined with increased extreme weather events impacting on our infrastructure and food systems seems in my mind an area thats hugely concerning, but a bit convoluted and not sexy enough to grab peoples attention.

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8787893

Pretty much everyone I know and all media outlets I listen to believe climate change and global warming is fact. More people now don't believe in it, but the majority still do. Dumbfuck.

It doesn't help that some scientists have been exposed falsifying data to make their research seem more 'groundbreaking' and 'urgent'. This makes people suspicious. Harder to believe the top papers in 'nature' and 'science' journals.

>> No.8787899

>>8787749
>countries like China
China is scared as hell, the estimates are that when 450ppm/2C is reached, Chinas food production will drop by over 35%.
At the pace were going, at 3ppm per year, this will happen around 2030. We're at 405ppm now.
A 35% reduction of crops will lead to a civil war and revolution. But, if China's export business fails because of electric breaks, the failing economy will do the same even sooner.
So china is between a rock and a hard place, they're installing solar and wind and nuclear as fast as they can. A big ship turns slowly, but they're running as fast as they can.

https://youtu.be/Mc_4Z1oiXhY?t=1h3m30s

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2080270/beijing-shuts-down-its-last-coal-fired-power-plant-part-bid-clear

>> No.8787902

>>8787867
If we were several hundred million we'd be doing something about it. Its our low population that allows us to be one of the largest polluters per capita and say "well, why should we do anything when our total amounts are minor and no one else is". The kind of bullshit political rhetoric that is going to fuck over our country, and more proportionally the rural folk voting for fucking Barnaby and co.

>> No.8788784

>>8787748
wrongthink is illegal, don't do it!

>> No.8788795

>>8787891
this this this
the science wasn't wrong
no fearmongering happened people just loooove money
cash rules baby

>> No.8788970

Can you handle the truth? I'll tell you. There are some people who will benefit from the effects of temporary global warming. Others will not. The ones who will benefit are telling the ones who will not that global warming is not real.
There are several mechanisms on earth that will counteract warming and cooling.
Like any complex chaos driven system there are seemingly stable states to the system. The climate that we have today is one of these stable states. Another stable state is what we call an ice age. I doubt these are the only, more or less stable states, but these are the ones known to us. There might be a stable state where the temperature is on average 10 degrees warmer than now, making most of the planet uninhabitable because of temperature and the rest uninhabitable because of storms. The real agenda of the global warming denier is to cause a sudden warming that results in an overcorrection in the climate causing an ice age. Look at a map to see whom that will benefit.
Geopolitics drives public opinion not fact.