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In each respective field, and overall.

>> No.8733477
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>> No.8733478
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my main man Sam

>> No.8733481

>>8733478
I said person, not robot

>> No.8733490
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>> No.8733521

>>8733476
sadly fields have become so complicated and inter-dependent we don't have polymaths or multi-disciplinary geniuses anymore. It's quite a sad historical time to be a theoretician, but really the most exciting time to be alive if you're an experimenter, engineer, designer, we've never built such complex things before and we are rushing forward towards a super-AI that can win a nuclear war flawlessly, something like:

>hijack all computer systems
>set false alarm missile status for all the world nuclear powers
>crisis commences where everyone rushes to disable their missiles
>in the shutdown cycle embed an airgapped virus that makes rebooting impossible for your opponents
>very high probabilty tthis will work as some idiot is bound to have an iphone near his console
>launch your missiles, pretend like it's another error, they cannot retaliate, claim it was a gross malfunction
>deploy troops to provide aid and decontamination to the countries you just nuked
>everyone knows whats up, you win but they can't do shit.

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>inb4 b-but he's a meme

>> No.8733627

Roger Penrose maybe

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>>8733521

>mfw I am a brainlet but even I can see how insane all of this inter-disciplinary specialization is

I think in past years some people's titles would be akin to saying, "I work in the field of 11th Century Ottoman Sculptures, specializing in Transcribing Arcane Illuminations."

>> No.8733638

>>8733627
No. He was smart, but not anymore.

He's looking for God in fractals ffs.

>> No.8733639

>>8733477
good movie

>> No.8733641

>>8733636
That's the beauty of society. Each person only understands the smallest fragment, but somehow it fits together.

>> No.8733878

>>8733477
Definitely in his field but also definitely not overall.

>> No.8733938

>>8733476
me

>> No.8733943

>>8733878

It's really interesting to see /sci/ talk about Chomsky as opposed to /lit/ or /his/. The opinions are different, I'll just say that.

>> No.8733954

>>8733636
computers will be the next geniuses in society, AI's solving harder problems than we can.

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My man David.

>>8733477
Shut the fuck up communist scum.

>> No.8734362

>>8733476

Biochemistry: Jim Wells

Structural biology: Yigong Shi

>> No.8734377

>>8733476
Pancreatic/lung cancer anon.

>> No.8734734

Terry Davis

>> No.8734759

>>8733476

>Philosophy - Saul Kripke

>Physics - Steven Hawking

>Mathematics - Terence Tao

>Linguistics - Noam Chomsky

>Economics - Amartya Sen

>Political science - John Mearsheimer

>> No.8734763

>>8734759
>>Physics - Steven Hawking
I want brainlets to leave.

>> No.8734768

>>8734763
>Steven Hawking isn't smart
Well, then it's your turn to leave.

>> No.8734777

>>8734768
You know about him because he's in a wheelchair.
Plenty of smart physicists around.

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>> No.8734785

>>8734777
>You know about him because he's in a wheelchair

It's not like Hawaking radiation, gravitational singularity theorems and numerous important contributions to cosmology are something extremely profound, pfft.

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>>8733476

>> No.8734798

test

>> No.8734804

>Physics
Igor Bogdanov

>Mathematics
Grishka Bogdanov

>> No.8734810

>>8734804
what about overall though?

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>>8734785
>Hawaking radiation

>> No.8734840

>>8734785
>Hawking's work followed his visit to Moscow in 1973 where the Soviet scientists Yakov Zeldovich and Alexei Starobinsky showed him that, according to the quantum mechanical uncertainty principle, rotating black holes should create and emit particles.[3]
Not even original work.

>> No.8734843

>>8733478
Who da fuck is THAT guy?

Big Irish balls in ya face.

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meme apologetics

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>> No.8735112

me

>> No.8735177

>>8734377
who dat

>> No.8735178

>>8734804
can someone give me a quick rundown on their achievements?

>> No.8735187

>>8734759
Has Tao even done anything yet?
I would think Atiyah, Conway or Serre are more intelligent than him

>> No.8735191

>>8735178
Plagiarised Post-Anabelian Froeboid Geometrics from Mochizuki, it's a complex field of mathematics only he can understand fully.

>> No.8735194

>>8733490
Why have you uploaded a screenshot from Inception?

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>> No.8735205

>>8735187
Tao has done a ton of stuff but very little of it is really a big deal. Somewhat counterintuitively (maybe) geniuses tend to work on small little puzzle problems rather than giant ones because the little problems are where genius really shines; often it's just one brilliant insight that none of the other brainlets saw and you're basically done.

>> No.8735209

>>8735178
They rule over France with and iron but fair fist.

>> No.8735248

>>8735205
Well I think really there's two general categories of genius, the problem solvers like tao or erdos and the theory builders like grothendieck
read the article "The two cultures of mathematics"

>> No.8735262

>>8735248
I think Gowers' article is certainly true, but I also think that the impact of genius is much less relevant in the work of the "theory builders", so to speak.

When you spread your work over thousands of pages rather than 5, the impact of raw intelligence gets heavily diluted. EGA was not written in a flash of brilliance; it was created from inhuman amounts of effort and patience.

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>>8733476
If you say he's not smart then you are RAY-CIST!!

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overall

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>> No.8735394

>>8735262
Really depends on your definition of genius then. I define it on what you create, not just being able to almost ace the SAT maths test when you're nine years old or being able to instantly tell GH Hardy why 1729 is interesting. I don't think genius is all about being exceptionally quick or having a super high IQ, if you're creative enough, are obsessed and/or dedicated enough, have a decent amount of intelligence and can look "deep" enough to find insights into something no one else has seen before but you're not like Ramanujan or Tao that doesn't make you any less of a genius. I guess what you're talking about would be a sort of inverse labor theory of genius, where genius is not defined by the value of the work you produce, but by how easily and brilliantly you have new insights. Personally I think it entirely depends on what you produce, and not just your intelligence, though a certain amount of intelligence/aptitude is certainly necessary. What you say about theory builders is true though, Grothendieck himself described himself as "clumsy" and "oafish" compared to more "gifted" mathematicians which accomplished much less than him.

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>> No.8735414

>>8735407
what has he ever done

>> No.8735537

>>8735302
I want to give him a hug and tell him i'm sorry for how obnoxious and insane the world is.

>> No.8735641

>>8735178
Rothschilds
Ayyliens
God and the archangels
Fort Bogdanoff

>> No.8735799

>>8735641
wew

>> No.8735805

>>8733476
tai lopez :^)

>> No.8736002

>>8735805
one book a day breh

>> No.8736108

>>8734778

john malcovich really is a great actor

>> No.8736136

>>8736002
>not reading 2 encyclopedias a day
brainlets should get out

>> No.8736145

>>8736136
my iq is 101
above average
genius, even

>> No.8736153

>>8736145
It can't be more than 100%.

Source: My IQ is 93% and mum says I'm smart.

>> No.8736190

>>8733878
What linguistics? Not even close

>> No.8736218

>>8736153
I am smarter than 100% of the earths population and smarter than 1% of alien population
100%+1% = 101%ile intelligence

>> No.8736226

>>8733476
I am pretty sure there is some mad bastard in here who is such a fucking genius that he is both simultaneously the smartest man in the world and a complete fucking moron at the same time.
An almighty idiot.

>> No.8736243

>>8736226
who?

>> No.8736246

>>8734777
He was already way beyond his peers when he was normal. Just imagine the amount of neurons that his brain uses for intelligence now that he doesn't use his body anymore.

>> No.8736253

>>8735271
He is smart though.

>> No.8736255

>>8736226
Christopher Langan?

>> No.8736291

My professors. God bless them

>> No.8737425

>>8733476
richard dawkins

>> No.8737572

>>8734843
ben stiller

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for Logic

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>> No.8737624

>>8737585
reminder that they stole mochzuki's work

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>>8733476
>not tesla
>being this dumb

>> No.8737952

>>8737947
>alive

>> No.8737969

>>8737952
>being THIS dumb

>> No.8737973

>>8734362
>Yigong Shi
Why are chinks so good at physical biology?

>> No.8738244

>>8737969
>BEING this dumb

>> No.8738910

>>8736190
By far in linguistics.

>> No.8738918

>>8733943
It might be because /lit/ and /his/ think they know about linguistics when they really don't, whereas /sci/ either do know about it or know they don't for the most part.