BEST ENGINEERING FIELD

[Anonymous No.8490709]

It's time for this thread again ? which is better ? which is the most versatile ? which is the most chad ?

[Anonymous No.8490724]

>2016
>Becoming an engineer

Don't you know engineering is the new replacement for Chad's business degree?

[Anonymous No.8490754]

>>8490724
>CHAD takes basic statics and fluid dynamics for civil and instantly gets a job after getting a bachelor degree while (((you))) slave away to pass electrica systems and circuit analysis only to become a glorified programmer

[Anonymous No.8490756]

>>8490754
Also he fucks your oneitis while you jack off to her pictures

[Anonymous No.8490759]

>>8490709
Nuclear engineering, OP, it is the best and will bring about the future means of our power generation.

[Anonymous No.8490768]

>>8490709
EE

MechE is piss easy shit for noobs, unless you want to go all the way.

Get at least an MSc though.

[Anonymous No.8490767]

>>8490754
>he doesn't know about my very specific engineering degree that is literally only people who failed out of another engineering degree but still has 100% job placement and $75k starting
>this degree is easy as fuck and all of the people are idiots
It's alright, engineering/science are lame and I'm going to be attending an ivy law school for free next year because of my near-perfect gpa in easy ass engineering.

[Anonymous No.8490834]

>>8490759
nuclear engineers will bring destruction to humanity
as we all know
plus nuclear power is a meme

[Anonymous No.8490839]

>>8490709
Civil (structural) is objectively the most chad engineering field.

Prove me wrong, /sci/

[Anonymous No.8490846]

>>8490834
Only because of cost, you twat, once we achieve viable fusion not using nuclear power will be a meme.

[Anonymous No.8490870]

>Mechanical
Greasers, gear heads, and other assorted bro-dudes

>Electrical
legit nerds, autists, and poo-in-loo's

>Civil/Environmental
rich chads who already have a job lined up at dads construction firm, old faggot tradesmen who want to upgrade careers, hippies, and lesbians.

>Chemical
chemists who want to be slightly more marketable than actual chemists

>Mining/Petroleum
the guys that aren't in it for the money are usually outdoorsy niggers who were one step away from getting a geology degree instead

>aerospace/biomedical/mechatronic
smug faggots who think they are getting a sexy degree when its just another niche overspecialization

>industrial
really just want to be a salesman

>nuclear
you literally need to be number 1 in your uni, or you need to join the Navy.

[Anonymous No.8490898]

>>8490709
WHATEVER YOU DO
don't make the same mistake I did in assuming a technician degree is just as good as an engineering degree.

[Anonymous No.8490901]

>>8490898
You foolish fool.

[Anonymous No.8490905]

>>8490898
pretty sure nobody thinks that

[Anonymous No.8490923]

>>8490870
>nuclear
not true.
Pretty shit being a nuke though, you're just a glorified technician ade to run plants smoothly. Boring as fuck.
I guess if you go in building the appartus it's more interesting though.

[Anonymous No.8490934]

>>8490905
If it happened to me it could happen to someone else.
I mostly blame myself for not doing enough research, but the college recruiter assured me that a technician's degree + passing the FE exam is just as good in the eyes of an employer.
The money I saved going to that uni was immediately lost through credit transfers when I realized my mistake.

[Anonymous No.8490943]

>>8490709
structural for me
easiest
fastest to finish
average students
most business like
filled with ex-other-majors who switched

i work for caltrans
ok pay
not too much work
average co workers
varied and fun work environments
i work all over la/oc county
no indians or fob asians

[Anonymous No.8491073]

>>8490767
Acoustics?

[Anonymous No.8491091]

>>8490898
>>8490934
I got an engineering technology associates degree. When I was 19 I didn't really know what I wanted to do and the jobs paid well for 2 years of school. When I was 25 I realized that my career was pretty much stalled, so I decided to go back to school.

About half of my credits did end up transferring, but all said and done it was more expensive to go this route. I don't regret it though, being an engineers bitch for 5 years taught me to work a lot harder than I would have and opened up a career path through a former coworker that paid 100k right out of university

[Anonymous No.8491102]

>>8490870
You forgot materials, are they with Mining/Petroleum

[Anonymous No.8491111]

>>8491102
>You forgot materials

materials engineers are autists, but not the smelly unaffable kind that make up most of electrical.

pleasant, simple folk who can be a bit eccentric at times.

[Anonymous No.8491122]

>>8491102
materials are nothing like mining and petroleum, those two are unique

I'd say that the affable autist description is accurate

[Anonymous No.8491125]

>>8490943
>structural
>fastest to finish
honestly, what?

a MS is pretty much required to work anywhere that does serious work, and on top of that you need 2-4 years of experience to even try for licensure

[Anonymous No.8491153]

>studying Aeronautical engineering
>tfw I just accepted a job for $75k starting

[Anonymous No.8491156]

>>8491111
>>8491122
>affable autist
Sounds about like me, it must be destiny considering I want to be a Materials Engi

[Anonymous No.8491242]

ECE master race.

I hope you guys like being unemployed because that's what you'll be if you aren't doing something with electronics or computing in [current year].

[Anonymous No.8491298]

>not studying Mathematical Engineering

Literally the best of both worlds.

[Anonymous No.8491321]

>>8490709
I'm gonna start my Chem Eng career next year. Im 23 already and it's a 5 year career.
I just don't know what kind of jobs there are for me when i get out.
I hear that civil engineering has a lot more jobs but they dont pay nearly as well.

Thoughts anyone?

[Anonymous No.8491329]

>>8491321
WOW
Nunca hubiera esperado encontrar otro platense aca

[Anonymous No.8491339]

>>8491329
Y encima a esta hora. Lo que es la indecisión.
Y vos que estudiaste?

[Anonymous No.8491359]

>>8491298
>not studying Quantum Archaeology

[Anonymous No.8491366]

>>8490870
>Mechanical
Basic applied physics

>Electrical
for people who failed out of physics

>Civil
Pretty much non-STEM

>Chemical
Chemists are bro-tier. Chemical Engineers are idiots who work with vague shit in a meme field.

>Mining
True

>Industrial
applied physics

>Nuclear
applied physics

[Anonymous No.8491367]

>>8491321
I do oil and gas mechanical engineering, every small gas plant in my area is looking for chemical engineers. If you are willing to move around, you'll have no problem finding work.

[Anonymous No.8491374]

I majored in physics, minored in chemistry, if I could redo it I would go for electrical engineering or computer science.

[Anonymous No.8491375]

>>8491374
>tfw major in physical chemistry, minor in math
am i gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.8491376]

>>8491366
Aren't chemical engineers *technically* chemists? Am I missing something here hidden within your thinly velied arrogance?

[Anonymous No.8491380]

>>8491376
Not that I know of. Chemical engineering degrees have a surprisingly low amount of chemistry and physics but have a shitload of process stuff and things from other fields that are irrelevant. It's typically a very long degree.

[Anonymous No.8491386]

>>8491380
Would a Bachelor's in chem get me a relatively good position in anywhere? Something like a full chem engineering degree?

[Anonymous No.8491403]

>>8491386
I don't know, I'm in my second year of a chemistry BS myself. Most of my friends are in ChemE. I've heard of people from our chem program being able to talk their way into chemical engineering jobs but I'm not entirely sure how. (My uni is relatively mediocre but the chem dept is often placed in the top 20)

[Anonymous No.8491407]

what about computer engineering tho

[Anonymous No.8491415]

>>8490709
Electrical Engineering is the most interesting one and it has the highest demand.

[Anonymous No.8491439]

>>8490754
>Implying said Chad could get a single problem right for his FE/PE exams needed to get a job in Civil

[Anonymous No.8491465]

what engineering field has the highest salary besides petroleum? would it be electrical? and is mechanical a lot lower than electrical? HELP CUNTS

[Anonymous No.8491484]

>>8490709
Electrical is objectively the best but fuck off we're full.

Go do mechanical or chemical or some shit.

That or go major in Physics. If you have no idea what subfield of engineering to go into then engineering isn't for you. Like, if you look at the spectrum of a 50% duty cycle square wave and seeing all the odd order harmonics doesn't blow your mind (do this before you learn about the Fourier series) then electrical isn't for you.

[Anonymous No.8491494]

>>8491366
>Electrical
>for people who failed out of physics

Pick one, you can't go to electrical engineering here without knowing decent physics

[Anonymous No.8491498]

>>8491153
>tfw studying Electrical Engineering
>tfw just accepted a job in Aeronautics for $81k starting
kek

[Anonymous No.8491502]

>>8491366
Physics is a jack of all trades master of none degree. A physics degree would not be enough to qualify you to work any engineering job.

Can a physicist design distributed element LC bandpass filters for signals over 30GHz? I didn't think so.

[Anonymous No.8491503]

Architecture is god.

[Anonymous No.8491507]

>>8491503
>engineers who don't know math

[Anonymous No.8491514]

>>8491507
>People who get paid more than engineers for more fun work

[Anonymous No.8491518]

>>8491374
I got BS in Physics. I did 0 networking or job prep, but I went back for MS in EE and I'm getting a good paying job in May. So yeah, not to late for you, son.

[Anonymous No.8491521]

>>8491494
My father failed out of physics at MIT and switched to EE

[Anonymous No.8491523]

>>8491502
Sure, but you could learn it in a few sittings. Physics makes you a master learner of Engineering, basically. I only went back for an MS in Engineering so people would interview and hire me.

/shrug

[Anonymous No.8491524]

>>8491521
Physics math is different than EE math, if you can pass a calc class, you can get an EE degree.

[Anonymous No.8491548]

>>8491523
Yeah no. You can't just sit down one day, pick up Electronics for Dummies and just start designing microwave frequency circuits. It doesn't work like that.

I know you learned Ohm's law back in physics 1 and think you know everything about electronics now but none of that applies here. Nothing behaves like the ideal in that frequency range and you can throw everything you know about electronics design out the window.

High frequency stuff is a bit unfair for a physicist. I'll give you a baby problem, prove me wrong. I doubt you could design a 4-pole active notch filter designed to filter out 60Hz noise from the mains. Any topology you want as long as it's active. Include the transfer function for the circuit. Should be no problem for you right? Hit the books for 10 minutes and pop out with an answer?

[Anonymous No.8491550]

Aero here kill me

[Anonymous No.8491552]

>>8491153
How and where

[Anonymous No.8491553]

>>8491407
No

[Anonymous No.8491587]

>>8491521
I think times have changed. You need to know physics to get into EE.

t. EE major

[Anonymous No.8491598]

>>8491548
I never said 10 minutes, Mr. Prima Dona, but yeah, lemme go study for like a month or two then bam, not too bad. The points I was making is that physics teaches you how to *learn*, not that you could do it right that minute.

And especially that
>everything about electronics now but none of that applies here.
that's pretty top kek
literally that's just the base. OBVIOUSLY you need to learn about the stuff that happen in the real case, the noise, the extra factors, the design limitations. You're forgetting you're talking to someone who came FROM physics to learn the EE specifics so he could get hired to make a living. Trust me, it's not *that* hard to learn the special-cases.

Again, I'm not saying it would be easy, or that it would take 10 minutes. It would take some honest work, time, and study. But it's easily within the grasp of anyone who takes on Physics.

Feel special for now, if you like.

[Anonymous No.8491613]

>>8491587
wtf is that supposed to mean
everyone takes basics physics - one whole basic book of material

[Anonymous No.8491625]

>>8491598
>Physics teaches you how to learn

That's not mutually exclusive to physics. Engineering is not just plugging in numbers and looking up shit in tables.

Additionally your logic cuts both ways. Any problem in physics give me a month with a book and some paper and I can have it solved too.

[Anonymous No.8491631]

>>8491407
>computer """""""""""""""""""""""""""engineering"""""""""""""""""""""""""""

[Anonymous No.8491689]

Is it normal for professors to give exams no one is able to finish on time? I'm currently taking statics and it's unreal, I feel like it's testing me less on how well I know the content and more about how quickly I can solve basic algebra. I'm finishing up the last of my 200 level classes and it's driving me insane.

It's not as if I'm just retarded, the median exam grade is consistently in the 50s across all semesters because people are able to finish maybe two thirds of it.

[Anonymous No.8491709]

>>8490709
>engineering
Are you gay OP?

[Anonymous No.8491719]

CHAD goes to PARTIES while getting perfect grades and connections while you slave away at the LIBRARY and JERK it to Chad's gf's fb profile

[Anonymous No.8491729]

>>8490870
what about explosive, like rockets but less advanced and work in mining

[Anonymous No.8491764]

>>8491689
yes it is harder to cheat when you have to go fast

[Anonymous No.8491776]

>>8491587
>I think times have changed. You need to know physics to get into EE.
lel u have no idea of the difference between physics and EE

[Anonymous No.8492413]

>>8491625
This.
Plus Physics BSc level shit is piss easy.

It's more dependent on your own talents and intelligence than on your degree.

If you're smart enough to do a Physics or EE degree without much problems that means you can learn easily.

If you can barely pass your EE courses at a shit uni then you are most likely shit in everything.

[Anonymous No.8492471]

What are the prospects for an EE focusing on solid state physics / devices / photonics?

Asking because my school has a fab and I think those are the only areas we're good at.

[Anonymous No.8492477]

>>8490709

ITT: The degree I studied is hardest, best, and most useful

The degree everyone else studied is easy, useless, and for fags

Just another day of uninteresting discussion on /sci/

[Anonymous No.8492491]

I'm in Industrial Engineering, most faggots call us "managers with helmets" to mock us.

And they're right. Right now I work in a shit bank checking credit card's memberships, but I'm still an student.

I kinda want to work in a water-treatment plant. Or an hydroelectric plant, that shit is my jam.
Fuck Peru for not having enough job positions for anyone.

[Anonymous No.8492521]

>>8492477
I'm not about to pretend my chemistry degree is particularly useful but bio people are still fags

[Anonymous No.8492531]

What about Telecommunications Engineering? I know its often a profile in EE, but what about it?

[Anonymous No.8492550]

>>8492531
hard, relatively good job prospects, but not as good as mech or civil, but good pay

[Anonymous No.8492565]

>>8491548
Just design a high order high pass filter you double nigger. That's sophomore electronics.

[Anonymous No.8492569]

>>8492565
well he did say that it's an ez pz problem

[Anonymous No.8492571]

someone post the expectation/reality of engineering fields chart if you have it

[Anonymous No.8492578]

any other EE bros got some advice for me?
trying to choose my depth courses
looking at circuits and systems vs devices, materials, and photonics

[Anonymous No.8492582]

>>8492578
it really depends on what you like and what to do at your job. i personally would prefer devices and materials because i'm like more "concrete" stuff, but go for circuits and systems if you want to work in communications and electronics

[Anonymous No.8492661]

>>8492550
Interesting

I'm thinking of getting a technician degree (2 years), then while I get some experience in the area I slowly work in the eng degree, so finally when I'm an Engineer I have 10 years of experience or so.

Otherwise I'm going to be a 30 year old Engineer with no experience at all, and be completely fucked (currently I'm a filthy web dev monkey from 9 to 5, 23 yo, wanting to get into Telecommunications)

[Anonymous No.8492673]

>>8492661
like many anons said don't make the mistake of thinking going for a tehnician role will get you as far an engineering, but if you're already 23 you might as well do that. alternatively try finding an EE program that is only part time or with no required attendance, but prepare your anus for studying 24/7. if you already have a stem degree and some work experience you should try to get into a master's degree directly, skip the technician and bachelor's altogether. depending on what you studied you might have better or worse chances but i think there are plenty universities that would accept you to do an easier master's degree in EE

[Anonymous No.8492686]

>>8492673
>going for a tehnician role will get you as far an engineering

I don't think that, I think that working as a technician in the field of telecommunications, while studying engineering, will give me far better chances than trying to get in the field as a 30-35 yo engineer that has only programmed in PHP and has no real experience in the field.

I didn't do any STEM career, I just have a high school degree and I don't think there is any point in doing a Master's unless it is for research or something very highly specialized, or am I wrong?

Also I can't study 24/7 because I have to work, there is no way I could do engineering in 5 years precisely because of that, I'm guessing that even working my ass off, it would take around 10 at least, that's why I want to get the other degree first, I could have it in just 2 years and probably even get a job before I finish, where I would be under the supervision of engineers in the area I want learning a lot, and a few years later I will be in their position surely (when I become an engineer of course)

[Anonymous No.8492697]

>>8490846
And fusion is only a few years away!

[Anonymous No.8492698]

>>8491415
>it has the highest demand
That is factually untrue

[Anonymous No.8492700]

>>8492686
spanish??

[Anonymous No.8492703]

>>8490768
Woah there bub, MechE is pretty easy now but I've heard it ramps up hard in the final semesters

[Anonymous No.8492706]

>>8490870
>mechatronic
>overspecialization
Which discipline is less specialized than that mess of a degree?

[Anonymous No.8492719]

>>8492706
Honestly, it depends on the mechatronics degree. Some mechatronics degrees are more like a systems engineering degree targeting interdisciplinary stuff.

That can be a good basics to continue in either EE or MechEng.

So if you want something less specialized then EE from the electrical side and ME from the mechanical one.

[Anonymous No.8492726]

>>8491321
No jobs right now, shit sucks, have applied to over 200 jobs and no interviews. Only interviews I've gotten have been for non engineering jobs through connections at hedge funds and what not. Better to do computer science

[Anonymous No.8492730]

We had the final battle last year you fucking new faggots.

[Anonymous No.8492732]

>>8492673
So if I went for an electrical technician program will I be able to get a job? I'm 26, have average grades, and currently have one project to bring to the interview but a few more in the works.

My plan was to get into a job and either hope the company would pay for me to finish a full EE degree or hope I get paid enough to do it out of pocket and afford a small apartment. It's worth noting I can no longer get any federal financial aid (loans included) because too many credit hours, the result of changing majors twice. I would have to take out private loans but since I have no credit history my interest rates will be awful assuming I'm even approved at all.

[Anonymous No.8492735]

>>8491376
Nah chemical engineering has very little chemistry in the coursework. Most jobs involve becoming over glorified plumbers called "process engineers".

[Anonymous No.8492740]

>>8491403
No way you can get a chemical engineering job with a chem degree, definitely possible the other way around.

[Anonymous No.8492741]

Huh, is someone posting in this thread? I couldn't notice because of my 300k/yr stacks from my pure math degree.

[Anonymous No.8492744]

>>8491502
I agree, physics degree is useless without a masters or phd

[Anonymous No.8492746]

>>8491587
No, you're fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.8492752]

>>8491689
Get a ti-Nspire or ti-89, can solve all that stupid algebra quickly

[Anonymous No.8492753]

>>8492744
That's also true for engineers regarding a masters if we want to talk about real shit and not just the basics.
MSc is where you start doing complex stuff and broaden your knowledge and get into research.

[Anonymous No.8492756]

>>8492471
Nobody gives a shit what you specialized in. Start applying to jobs that require your skills and check out the market yourself. There is a huge disconnect between academia and industry, as long as you get decent grades and an internship you should find a job easily with EE, if you're sub 3.0 good luck lol

[Anonymous No.8492761]

>>8492578
Nobody gives a shit about what you specialized in.

[Anonymous No.8492764]

>>8492661
Stop being a retard and get a CS degree

[Anonymous No.8492765]

>>8492756
How do you go about getting a job if you have a bad GPA? Even a shit job. Anything to get experience.

Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.8492800]

>>8492700
If I am from Spain? No

>>8492732
You could get a job, I guess it depends where you are from. Where I am from private universities are piss easy but incredibly expensive, and public uni is better in every way, but requires full dedication to have a chance, or do it in more years.

I don't know how it works there, but if you can do a technician degree and from there pick up EE somehow, that sounds like a good plan, here they are not compatible, I have to get the technician degree, then start a 5 year engineering program from scratch with no middle-titles as if I was just a high-schooler.

>>8492764
No thanks.

[Anonymous No.8492817]

>>8492740
Hahaha, this is completely false

[Anonymous No.8492823]

>>8491518
Are you in the US? Don't you need a bs to be credited?

[Anonymous No.8492885]

Nigger engineering

[Anonymous No.8493684]

>>8492730
not a new fag, just didn't frequent /sci/ as much last year

[Anonymous No.8493695]

>>8490768
>MechE is piss easy shit for noobs
lol no

[Anonymous No.8493777]

>>8492730
One that studies engineering technology wants to be more than a technician, with a technical profile, which is perfectly fine.

If you study that wanting to be an engineer, then yes its shit tier and you are an idiot, I know plenty here who think is real engineering instead of a technologist degree, even some of the teachers themselves lol, this is what I get for living in an ignorant 3rd world dumpster

The thing is that is a great career path if you want to be more into the field and do less 'desktop work' and/or just be the one who tells technicians and technologists what to do, it just pisses me off the ignorant people that assume it is what it isn't supposed to be.

[samefag No.8493778]

>>8493777
Or the people that trashes it because it isn't engineering, IT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IDIOT, for fuck's sake, you are just as stupid as the people who pretend it is engineering.

[Anonymous No.8493795]

>>8493695
Compared to EE you learn around 1/4 the math and 1/2 the physics. Plus no modern physics only trivial classical shit.

EE is literally engineering using the unseen.

[Anonymous No.8493814]

>>8493795
you only need a few topics from complex variables and pde for ee
not even a full course full of material
stop being so full of shit

[Anonymous No.8493819]

>>8493814
kek, nice try

[Anonymous No.8493823]

all of them
>not having a phd in every enginering field, like i do

[Anonymous No.8493830]

>>8493823
I have a degree in the art of seducing milfs, son.

[Anonymous No.8494064]

Civil is pretty cool for how broad it is. I've seen internship offers for large contractors, structural firms, water treatment plants, transportation departments, etc. The roles have varied from engineering to management positions. Pay is pretty great too and seems consistent.

I'm happy with the field I've chosen anyway.

[Anonymous No.8494164]

Guys did I fuck up?
>didnt get a good enough rank for top 5 IIT in core branch
>Could've taken mining but its not good
>applied abroad and go into uni of sydney and got in easily
Did I do good considering I want to apply to top american unis for masters?

[Anonymous No.8494190]

>>8491439
>Be me
>Just graduated with EE degree
>See flyer for exams in PE, FE, SE
>sign up for all 3 exams
>study the day before for each one
>pass them all
>certified civil engineer now
if anyone is doing a another engineering field, make sure to take these exams for a free pass to civil engineering license

[Anonymous No.8494200]

>>8492491
deja de robarnos oceano, peruanito

[Anonymous No.8494548]

>>8493795
how much more physics and math can you really learn in EE than in MechE

[Anonymous No.8494581]

>>8493795
ME here, you're probably right if you just look at required classes, but personally, by the time I finished my BS I almost had taken enough physics courses to get physics as a second major.

It's not that useful comparing majors by the required classes, because what really determines your career path are the electives, internships, and extra-curriculars

[Anonymous No.8494721]

>>8494548
well you learn much more algebra, a shit ton of electromagnetism which is inherently a bit harder and broader than mechanics or thermodynamics which are the basics of physics in ME

[Anonymous No.8494945]

>almost 2017
>not working on heavy ass miracles of engineering while letting the EE cucks deal with wires in their sexbots

feels good to be ME

[Anonymous No.8495002]

>>8494945
The entire operation of all those things in your pic is possible because of "EE cucks".

Every single modern thing is possible due to advanced control algorithms and computers which allow you to do most things in software.

MEs deal with the piss easy shit while EEs do the real work as always.

[Anonymous No.8495645]

>>8494164
Bump

[Anonymous No.8495670]

>>8494190
lol
are you serious senpai?

damn, might do that once I'm done with EE too

[Anonymous No.8495766]

>>8494721
>learn much more algebra
please tell us all this extra algebra an ee learns

[Anonymous No.8495803]

Everything all other engineers work this is made out of materials
Therefore it is an objective fact that materials engineering is the best field :^)

[Anonymous No.8495811]

Give it to me straight. What I really want to do is specialize in materials, but I want a more general engineering degree so I don't get pigeon-holed into one field in case things go south. Can I accomplish that with a ChemEng or EE route?

And of course, how shittier is ChemEng in job prospects? I've heard and read a lot of bad things about how things are looking for ChemEng grads during this time, from here, other forums, and from actual graduating students. It's just down to these two majors, and I'm confused after seeing so much dicksucking for ChemEng.

[Anonymous No.8495821]

Do not listen to these faggots making EE to be much math heavy than the rest. At the vast majority of schools people take the standard math classes, and they teach you advanced material in the EE course.

Some schools do require extra math. I went to CS Northridge, and we took a course ECE 455 that covered more advanced topics. Keep in mind this is an applied math course; no arcane shit that serves no purpose in an ECE job.

This was a four month course divided as follows:
PDE
Complex Variables
Other Topics - linear programming, nonlinear ODE etc.

http://catalog.csun.edu/academics/ece/courses/ece-455/

This is the book we used - plus lots of Matlab coding for HW.
https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Engineering-Mathematics-Erwin-Kreyszig/dp/0470458364

>>8494945
ECE/CS people forget about scale. Many people want to work on big things and projects.

[Anonymous No.8495969]

>>8495002
yeah you do the "real work" for the same amount of money faggot. also control algorithms are written by comp "sci" guys anyway, you're just sore you will always in a team of brony pajeets as a glorified technician. if you're lucky you might go into biomedicalE shit but i bet you're too stupid and to "pure" to go beneath your patrician pajeet status

[Anonymous No.8496123]

EE Junior thinking of changing to computer engineering. Am I making a mistake?

[Anonymous No.8496133]

>>8496123
A big fat mistake

[Anonymous No.8496137]

>>8496133
Why

[Anonymous No.8496162]

>>8495821
UCLA Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering also requires some applied upper division math.

181A. Complex Analysis and Integral Transforms. (4) Lecture, four hours; outside study, eight hours. Enforced requisite: course 82. Complex variables, analytic functions, conformal mapping, contour integrals, singularities, residues, Cauchy integrals; Laplace transform: properties, convolution, inversion; Fourier transform: properties, convolution, FFT, applications in dynamics, vibrations, structures, and heat conduction. Letter grading.

182B. Mathematics of Engineering. (4) Lecture, four hours; discussion, one hour; outside study, seven hours. Enforced requisite: course 82. Analytical methods for solving partial differential equations arising in engineering. Separation of variables, eigenvalue problems, Sturm/Liouville theory. Development and use of special functions. Representation by means of orthonormal functions; Galerkin method. Use of Green’s function and transform methods. Letter grading

[Anonymous No.8496166]

>>8492531
Also wondering about this, hopefully will be getting into a Telecommunications Engineering/Physics double degree in near future, is it worth it, or should I just go straight for EE?
Sidenote, the Telecomms degree at said University is very similar to Electrical with a lot of the same units, just with more on communications stuff as well (obviously)

[Anonymous No.8496252]

>>8495969
What?
>also control algorithms are written by comp "sci" guys
Written, but not designed. Classical control theory is a field which belongs to EE and applied mathematics. More recent control solutions (neural, fuzzy, etc.) are CE/EE.

>you're just sore you will always in a team of brony pajeets as a glorified technician.
You must be extremely butthurt. You literally know shit about EE. Do you seriously think that with top-tier applied electromagnetism, radar and RF knowledge capable of writing numerical algorithms I'm going to be some kind of technician? Any EE from a competent school can transfer into an Applied Physics or Math MSc. I know of EE guys who went for an Applied Math PhD (control theory guys). CS is possibility too. EE is one of the broadest fields where if you're talented you can go in almost any direction you want. EE guys literally work with the unseen; if you want to be competent it you need to have very good imagination and intuition. Meanwhile in ME lot of stuff just needs to barely work, this only goes away at very competent levels and even then all you do is lego. You can't do this in EE, you can't really design a >10GHz stuff, hell even a >2GHz stuff without being competent.

Stay mad, it shows on your writing. Don't misunderstand me you're needed and I like electromechanical stuff, but most of you guys are doing nothing more than lego for adults.

Only top-tier mechatronics guys touch for example signals and systems, most of you guys can only reason about basic structural stuff.

[Anonymous No.8496261]

>>8495821
>>8496162

Here are the required courses from a European - Hungarian university ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_University_of_Technology_and_Economics ) for an EE degree. If you guys want to compare.

This is the English roadmap for guys coming from other countries for a BSc:
https://www.vik.bme.hu/document/831/original/EE__BSc_degree_program_mintatanterv_szakiranyokkal_20160617.pdf

The one for Hungarians is a bit different, it has more specializations.

Here are the mandatory math requirements:

https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/VISZA105/en/
https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/TE90AX00/en/
https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/TE90AX02/en/
https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/TE90AX09/en/
https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/TE90AX08/en/

The Hungarian synopsis for the courses is a lot detailed though. You can google translate it from the Hungarian version of the page, it's an alright translation considering that most of the stuff are scientific terms.

[Anonymous No.8496314]

>>8496261
Okay I translated the Hungarian stuff with Google Translate. Just delete the /en/ from the end of the links in my previous post to see the original Hungarian version.

http://pastebin.com/WvLBRnCY
http://pastebin.com/FA1ceC54
http://pastebin.com/LB8wQRX7
http://pastebin.com/Qe8959gj
http://pastebin.com/pJ0TaZQQ

Any opinions on this? How does it compare to universities abroad?

[Anonymous No.8496341]

>>8496314
It is basically 90% the same as the USA depending on the school.

these are electrical courses
http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/courses/ECE.html

computer science
http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/courses/CSE.html

[Anonymous No.8496350]

>>8496341
Thanks I'll take a look.

[Anonymous No.8496384]

>>8496314
In comparison, I take:
-Every white class except for "Electronics Technology and Materials" and "Foundations of Computer Science." I took a grad course in VLSI design if that counts as "Electronics technology." My uni's math track is the standard calc sequence, linear/nonlinear ODEs, and a math elective (choosing from some field of analysis, stochastics, or linear algebra; I took complex analysis)
-The equivalent of every core (orange) class on that chart except perhaps for "measurement technology," since I don't know what that class entails. Every BSc here also has to take chemistry I, Physics I & II, and then either Chemistry II or Modern Physics, I chose the latter.
-Everything in the embedded/control track, except it's taught in three courses instead of five. I had to learn ASM programming on my own time.

Some other comparisons:
-Every engineer field including EE/CompE takes a course in engineering economics and deciphering legal-ese. No other economics course beyond the one other 100-level econ every student has to take
-Everyone takes a High-frequency lab.
-Comms. engineers here don't have a space technology course
-Power engineers here don't have a sustainable power electronics course

[Anonymous No.8496389]

>>8496384
>"Everyone takes a High-frequency lab."
I meant to say that every EE takes a high-frequency lab, not just comms engineers. It's the usual stuff: high-frequency component modelling, transmission line theory, smith charts, s-parameters, and waveguides.

[Anonymous No.8496403]

>>8496384

Thanks for the detailed comparison. :-)

Measurement technology here:
http://pastebin.com/wnLeKXu9
https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/VIMIA206/en/

Electronics technology here:
http://pastebin.com/E12rA9WP
https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/VIETA302/en/

It's more about manufacturing and similar stuff. It's not circuit design.
>>8496389
>I meant to say that every EE takes a high-frequency lab, not just comms engineers. It's the usual stuff: high-frequency component modelling, transmission line theory, smith charts, s-parameters, and waveguides.

Electronics 2 and Introduction to Electromagnetic Fields cover that:

Electronics 2:
http://pastebin.com/4jXScH4u
https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/VIAUA300/en/

Introduction to Electromagnetic Fields:
http://pastebin.com/NGS7FAT7
https://portal.vik.bme.hu/kepzes/targyak/VIHVA201/

[Anonymous No.8496443]

>>8496403
I see. We pick up bits and pieces of the material in Measurement/Electronics technology in various other classes but no direct analogue for those courses exist at my university

Another big difference is my university is 8-semester, not seven. The EEs there take only 3 humanities courses, whereas every bachelor degree here takes 6, including 3 basic English/comms classes, mainly for idiots. That is six classes, wasted, that could have been used for more electronics courses. this "we produce well-rounded individuals" meme needs to die

[Anonymous No.8496500]

>>8496137
It's a well known fact that studying computer engineering gives you autism.

[Anonymous No.8496509]

how much about electricity is taught in ME, and how much mechanics and thermodynamics is taught in EE

[SQT: Sustainable Industrial Ag(...) No.8496537]

Can we continue to mass produce food while reducing pollution and water consumption?

Are GMOs and pesticides safe?

[Anonymous No.8496560]

>>8496500
Why

[Anonymous No.8496591]

>>8494721
Most EE's I know are in fact near-experts in polynomial rings! The algebra required is immense!

[Anonymous No.8496652]

>>8496509
bumping for curiosity, i'm a finance fag but i genuinely want to know. the course modules just say physics and electromagnetism or fluid dinamics and engineering mechanics

[Anonymous No.8496699]

>>8496443
Got it. Thanks.
>this "we produce well-rounded individuals" meme needs to die
Yeah, I agree.

[Anonymous No.8496728]

>>8496509
>>8496652
>"how much about electricity is taught in ME"
My uni has MEs take a course that teaches the bare basics of circuits, electric machines, and control systems

>"how much mechanics and thermodynamics is taught in EE"
my BSc in EE had me take mechanics and then an engineering science elective (I chose fluid mechanics) but I have literally never used mechanics concepts except in studying motors/generators

[Anonymous No.8496893]

>>8491484

Yes, but apparently your nuts haven't dropped yet because, first of all, saying both "square wave" and "50% duty cycle" is not only redundant but makes you look like an idiot to all except the business majors you're explaining this too. And you don't need to be an engineering freshman to know that square waves are the sum of even harmonics just as triangle waves are the sum of odd harmonics.

>>8491502

Seems engineers can't either, without requiring a tech to manually "power-tune" by having to manually adjust every single coil and strap and tab and cut damn near every trace - and we're not even discussing having to reposition wirebonds yet. If engineers could design worth shit then there'd be a lot less involvement with production hours.

[Anonymous No.8497023]

Hi guys, EE or CS? (University Bachelor)

[Anonymous No.8497138]

>>8497023
EE OF COURSE YOU FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.8497165]

damn I haven't been on /sci/ for a bit. You guys still comparing majors?

Anyways, this board is a huge reason of why I majored in chemical engineering and was interested in STEM. Now that I have graduated, I am having a lot of trouble getting work since oil crashed.

Can you guys reassure me that my degree wasn't a meme and it I will probably be okay in the long term?

[Anonymous No.8497168]

>>8497165
Overspecialized
Should have just done pure math
kek

[Anonymous No.8497179]

>>8497165
it will, apply to literally all engineering jobs, not just in the chemE field, but literally all engineering fields you see, even in finance or programming if you want to be employed

[Anonymous No.8497190]

>>8497179

Thanks man, I will keep trying.

[Anonymous No.8497192]

>>8496509
>>8496652
e&m in basic physics
a circuits course - it may be the same one as the ee majors but many times it is taught by the me department
if you course thermo as your area you can take courses

MAE 140. Linear Circuits (4)

Steady-state and dynamic behavior of linear, lumped-parameter electrical circuits. Kirchoff’s laws. RLC circuits. Node and mesh analysis. Operational amplifiers. Signal acquisition and conditioning. Electric motors. Design applications in engineering. Prerequisites: grades of C– or better in Math 20D or 21D, 20F, and Phys 2B. Enrollment restricted to engineering majors only.

MAE 110A. Thermodynamics (4)

Fundamentals of engineering thermodynamics: energy, work, heat, properties of pure substances, first and second laws for closed systems and control volumes, gas mixtures. Application to engineering systems, power and refrigeration cycles, combustion. Prerequisites: grades of C– or better in Phys 2C and Chem 6A. Enrollment restricted to engineering majors only.

MAE 110B. Thermodynamic Systems (4)

Thermodynamic analysis of power cycles with application to combustion driven engines: internal combustion, diesel, and gas turbines. Thermodynamics of mixtures and chemical and phase equilibrium. Computational methods for calculating chemical equilibrium. Prerequisites: grade of C– or better in MAE 110A. Course not offered every year.

http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/courses/MAE.html

[Anonymous No.8497194]

>>8497165
you can do the vast majority of basic engineering jobs as they ten to entail very basic skills and light supervision (think cad drawing)
you are also qualified to be a MATLAB code monkey or basic analyst for you engineering area

[Anonymous No.8497221]

>>8497192
i should add many schools require their ee majors to take thermo and statics. where i went ucsd it was not required
in california the cal state system does require the above courses for ee majors
the uc system does not

[Anonymous No.8497269]

>>8496893
>square waves are the sum of even harmonics just as triangle waves are the sum of odd harmonics

Not that guy, but I don't think this is correct. Can somebody confirm?

[Anonymous No.8497283]

>>8497269
Look up the fourier transform

[Anonymous No.8497288]

I like pure math but don't want to be jobless after uni, what engineering should I major in? EE?

[Anonymous No.8497338]

>>8497288
Join one that you like. Almost all of them can at least guarantee you a nice wage. I think EE is definitely the most broad, but with more mature areas like circuit design you'll see a lot of competition from more experienced applicants. I've heard from a few company employers that they are looking for more machine learning guys, but who knows how long the hype will last since a lot of the software-based positions can also be filled by CS majors.

[Anonymous No.8497438]

>>8495670
lol no. i was just trying to say civil engineering is piss easy

[Anonymous No.8497470]

>>8492752
Most Math classes and low level physics classes won't let you use a calculator.

[Anonymous No.8497492]

>>8491548

Do you even Matlab you pretentious nigger?

[Anonymous No.8497531]

>>8497168
300

[Anonymous No.8497605]

Undergrad EEfag here.

Does anyone know any good places for a PhD in compound semiconductors / photonics / optoelectronics? How competitive is the field in general?

All I know is most people really hate solid state and condensed matter physics, so it can't be that saturated right?

[Anonymous No.8497618]

>>8490767
Fire protection engineering

[Anonymous No.8497705]

>>8497288
any engineering will be fine get a minor in math if you like
proofs analysis algebra - that is five course on semesters

[Anonymous No.8497983]

>>8497605
why would you want a phd in engineering of all fields ?

[Anonymous No.8497993]

Went to school for electrical engineering and work as a mechanical engineer because mechanical is that easy. Seriously, a retard could do this shit.

[Anonymous No.8497999]

>>8497993
well then you're a retard for being incapable to find work in you field

[Anonymous No.8498013]

>>8490923
You can do things other than power in nuke.
Pic related

>>8491465
Nuke has next highest salary as of a few years ago.

>>8493795
>Engineering using the unseen
>Thinking you're this special
Pic related

[Anonymous No.8498062]

>>8490870
Where's software you fucking tool?

[Anonymous No.8498130]

>>8498062
software engineer does not exist as a major in any reputable school in the usa
software engineer = code monkey

[Anonymous No.8498170]

>>8491111
>pleasant, simple folk who can be a bit eccentric at times

very accurate, i'm studying materials

[Anonymous No.8498175]

Production engineering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_engineering

[Anonymous No.8498198]

>>8490756
At least she's getting fucked, which makes her happy, so it's all good.

[Anonymous No.8498249]

>>8497269
>square wave
Both contain only odd harmonics.

[Anonymous No.8498363]

>>8498198
KEK
U
C
K

[Anonymous No.8498402]

>>8491367
Thank you for the hope

I'm about to graduate with a chemical engineering degree and have absolutely no idea where to get a job

I'll possibly get an offer from chevron

[Anonymous No.8498407]

>>8491380
This is not true

I've taken Gen Chem, O-Chem, and Physics Chem

Basically a year of each

[Anonymous No.8498414]

>>8498402
well it really depends on where you live/want to live. there's still a need of chemical engineers, including the oil industry, natural gas extraction, enviormental shit and many more. however you can in theory work in every engineering field since you have a good foundation in math, physics and hopefully in cad-shit. electronics is the only field i can think that might not be accesabile to you, but you have good chances in all the others. just make sure you've got good grades and proper elective courses, and internships/work experience

[Anonymous No.8499701]

>>8491375
I finished a chem degree and the best job I could find with only a BSc paid 12-15 leafbucks/hour
Now I'm in community college studying energy systems engineering technology

[Anonymous No.8499773]

>majoring in chem eng.
>tfw everyone's shitting on it
>>8497983
I assume he wants to go into R&D.

[Anonymous No.8500028]

>>8499701
I know guys who work at Home Depot and make $30/hr. It is you not the degree.

[Anonymous No.8500050]

>>8497993
what do you do?

[Anonymous No.8500642]

could i transfer in an EE master with a mechE bachelor or vice versa

[Anonymous No.8500682]

>>8490709
mechanical.

[Anonymous No.8500683]

>>8491366
nuclear and industrial are basic though. especially industrial.

[Anonymous No.8500754]

>>8491548
>High frequency stuff is a bit unfair for a physicist. I'll give you a baby problem, prove me wrong. I doubt you could design a 4-pole active notch filter designed to filter out 60Hz noise from the mains. Any topology you want as long as it's active. Include the transfer function for the circuit. Should be no problem for you right? Hit the books for 10 minutes and pop out with an answer?

is this 1930?

[Anonymous No.8500779]

>>8491465
mechanical deg can get a job in nuclear engineering electrical cant

[Anonymous No.8500782]

>>8499773
anaglyph doesnt work too good.

[Anonymous No.8500847]

>>8490709
Mechanical or Electrical

[Anonymous No.8500906]

>>8500847
DONT YOU MEAN MECHATRONICS ?

[Anonymous No.8500925]

>>8500906
>memetronics

[Anonymous No.8500926]

>>8500642
no and why would you?

[Anonymous No.8500941]

>he isn't dual majoring in math/physics then planning on going to graduate school for engineering after joining the military as an officer

[Anonymous No.8500956]

>>8500642
yes.

t. meche offered a ra position for a phd in ee

[Anonymous No.8500969]

>>8500926
because i want to gain knowledge in both fields, but slightly more in one of them

[Anonymous No.8500973]

>>8500925
>it's another /sci/ bullies mechatronics majors
feels bad

[Anonymous No.8500974]

>>8500941
no one cares about your shitty plan, the only reason you're joining the military is because your family is poor.

[Anonymous No.8500999]

>>8500974
>gets college degree
>joins military because family is poor


see how stupid that is? If that was the case, I'd just get a job in the private sector with the degrees...

[Anonymous No.8501018]

>>8498013
If you can't image electromagnetic fields and wave then you won't be good in EE RF stuff and low-noise circuit design, etc.

[Anonymous No.8501100]

>>8501018
i've never had problems with vizualization of fields, i'm ok at math and physics. should i think about going for EE if the type of work electrical guys doesn't really excite me. i could never work for telecommunications company or on power grid systems, or on automation and control systems on trivial shit. is there cool work being done in the field for recent graduates with no experience

[Anonymous No.8501109]

>>8500999
No, you'd join the military to get them to pay for your degree.

[Anonymous No.8501132]

>>8501109
They don't pay for it though. The GI Bill is only for after you serve

[Anonymous No.8501254]

>>8500642
Yes you can - people do this all the time
You would even see math/physics people in engineering MS programs

[Anonymous No.8501317]

>>8500642
Yes.

[Anonymous No.8501465]

>>8491407
My understanding is that the only jobs in computer engineering are semiconductor design and some high-end supercomputer stuff, only superasians need apply.

[Anonymous No.8501917]

>>8501465

well you're completely wrong. computer engineers also design the device you used to make that post.

[Anonymous No.8502239]

>>8491407
>>8501917
why no just EE tho. computer engineering is one of those fields like biomedical or mechatronics where it's more of a specialization that you do in a master's degree or by having experience working with it, if you're still a high school senior thinking about where to apply just go do EE

[Anonymous No.8502498]

judging from this thread EE comes out on top, but then again EE is among the few engineering branches to have negative projected job growth with CS becoming more popular and in demand, while mechE seems to have much better future growth. why is that ? what would be better in the future ?

[Anonymous No.8502564]

>>8502498
Why does /sci hat CS?

Also I've taken mechE. Will I be taught some programming in Java or C/C++?

[Anonymous No.8502572]

>>8502564
you will probably be taught some, and something about the theory of basic algorithms and programming

and about the cs, don't open that can of worms m8

[Anonymous No.8502578]

>>8502572
Plz tell me I wanna av a laf m8

[Anonymous No.8502606]

>>8502572
well because CS majors are autistic bronies who have seen an ad in which (((zuckerberg))) talked about the importance of programming. they think they are 1337 haxors that are patrician and have their own sikrity kulb, despite the fact that there are many people pouring into CS programs. now that we've established that cs majors are autistic nerds that think they are literally the /tosmart/ meme because they think they'll earn a lot of money, let's examine the courses. other than the math which is decent, you learn absolutely nothing that you couldn't have learned on you own. many people are angry with the fact that it teaches everything at a beginner level, at a very slow pace, to prepare you for the "difficult" task of being a programmer, where you just kinda copy and paste code in repetitive soul crushing work enviorment that doesn't really challange your mind too much, hence the nickname of "code-monkey".

now there are some normal well adjusted people who work in programming, some who do inventive shit, but most are disillusioned at the fact that literally everyone can work in their field without wasting 3-5 years in college on their "patrician" degree, when it turns out that it's not as useful or hard as they thought, so they turn to shitposting and being cunts to everyone because of a false sense of superiority and their own inadequacies.

now this happens with many people in many fields, but usually code fags behave like this much more than everyone else, in both numbers and quality, or lackthereof shitposting and screeching irl about their degree.

and one last thing, /sci/ and 4chan in particular is a community of anonymus trolls an fags, in whatever field of interest you might think of. so we're posting in an echo chamber of people with similar opinions to our own so these ideas start to propagate and others adopt these ideas. i myself have begun hating programmers more than before.

i hope i have explained to you why /sci/ hates cs

[Anonymous No.8502650]

>>8490934
>listening to college advisors
>literally salesmen for the university

[Anonymous No.8502705]

My school doesn't offer EE so I plan on majoring in Computer Eng. and hoping to make my way into the Electrical field.

good plan? I cant transfer to a new school either because I dot have a 3.0 gpa for all the good schools in my state and my I don't wanna leave my current uni

[Anonymous No.8502744]

>>8502498
Its because people in Electrical Engineering are old so they are starting to retire so there are generally enough job openings for EEs wherever they are, and it is helped by the fact that EE is very difficult so not many go into it.

The fact that many engineers are retiring is a very, very good thing. Companies meming about an engineering shorrage is absolutely cancerous because it shoves too many people into engineering, and the saving grace of anybody 14-21 who wants to be an engineer right now is that the Baby Boomer engineers are retiring en masse right now, otherwise many fields would be fucked.

[Anonymous No.8502766]

>>8502705

Just LOL

[Anonymous No.8503093]

>>8491552
Thats normal in germany
I get 70k as a automotive eng. while working 35h a week in my first year

[Anonymous No.8503189]

>>8503093
I think you meant to say mechanical then

[Anonymous No.8503214]

who /passed the FE exam/ here?

[Anonymous No.8503559]

>>8502606
Makes sense. Thanks

[Anonymous No.8503568]

are all Chem Engineering Jobs in the Gulf Coast or is there a lot in NY/PA/NJ. BLS says there is a shitton in Texas and Louisiana because oil, but it also says the place with the second most is NY/PA/NJ, whats in those states?

[Anonymous No.8503593]

I will be studying mechanical engineering starting in 3 months, how fucked am I? Do I have a bigger chance of getting a job in Switzerland since I'm doing my university in Austria?

[Anonymous No.8503706]

>>8503214
how the fuck does civil construction have the same pass rate as nuclear

[Anonymous No.8503707]

>decided to take civil engineering
>father tells me im in a meme course with no job prospects and tells me to transfer as soon as possible
>beginning to doubt whether i should be in civil or do something broad like mechanical

what do i do?

[Anonymous No.8503717]

>>8503707
If by meme course he means civil engineering then he is just wrong, there are plenty of job prospects and it pays well.

[Anonymous No.8503739]

>>8503717
huh
i go to a university with coop education and i barely see any job postings for civil students
how would you compare it to mechanical?

[Anonymous No.8503768]

>>8503707
Dual major Civil/Mechanical

[Anonymous No.8503815]

>>8490709
Best is EE. Just learn FPGA programming at some point and get a job working for some high speed trading firm for 400k

[Anonymous No.8503821]

>>8500926
An undergrad really shouldn't be answering that question

[Anonymous No.8503840]

>>8503593
It's not so hard man, just don't get behind on the work and do as many example problems as you can find in your textbook, I've passed many test where I have no idea what to do, but somehow guess the correct way of doing something just because I've done a lot of examples. Also try to find old test papers, the people that set up the test like reusing old shit or making similar problems

[Anonymous No.8503893]

>>8492732
Is that how project? How did you implement it if so?

[Anonymous No.8503938]

Is there any message boards where i can talk to an engineer? I figured this would be the place to go to.

[Anonymous No.8503948]

>>8490870
What about physics engineering?

[Anonymous No.8503978]

I need some advice.
I'm a junior in a ME program but my dream is to be an aerospace engineer. Would it be better to get engineering experience as a ME out of college and then go back to school, or go straight into aerospace right after I get my undergrad?

[Anonymous No.8503987]

>244 replies
>nobody has mentioned optical engineering

lets see

>get to do science degree
>get paid like an engineer
>massively unsaturated field, you'll always be in demand
>free ticket into the space industry
>future of computing hardware is optical interconnects, dick loads of money to be made
>get to develop ways of seeing the furthest things in the universe
>we've beaten the diffraction limit now, get to develop ways of seeing the smallest things in the universe
>design equipment for experiments in almost any field

[Anonymous No.8504007]

>>8502606
How do you feel about Computer Science and Engineering, though? We have to take a lot of engineering courses along with some CS classes that are considered Tech Electives for CS students. The degree itself is more geared towards preparing us for embedded systems.

[Anonymous No.8504140]

>>8503768
few reputable schools would let you do that
u r a massive faggot

[Anonymous No.8504150]

>>8501254
another high school faggot appears
you will program extensively in matlab

[Anonymous No.8504158]

>>8502564
another high school faggot appears
you will program extensively in matlab
ee/chemeng/civ/me is matlab programming

[Anonymous No.8504163]

>>8504158
I'm not disputing that matlab isn't used in EE but verilog/VHDL and C is arguably used far more often, at least speaking from experience.

[Anonymous No.8504171]

>>8503987
You forgot

>Any EE can get your job
>It's a stupid specialized meme field

[Anonymous No.8504235]

>>8503987
>oh do you mean an EE niche specialization ? i wonder why nobody mentioned it?
the only engineering fields are the ones listed in this >>8490870
everything is a specializiation that you learn during you work, or in an extremely obscure master's program

[Anonymous No.8504244]

>>8504171
>Any EE can get your job
Why would they hire an EE over an optical engineer for an optical engineering job? That literally makes no sense.

>>8504235
That's like saying civil engineering is a ME niche specialization. Or that EE is a physics niche specialization.

[Anonymous No.8504273]

>>8504244
>civil as a mechE niche
that should be correct, but these two disciplines have been separate since the dawn of the man
>EE as physics niche specialization
physics is used in all engineering fields, like math and programming and technical design.

also what is an optical engineer really, there is no undergraduate course in any respectable university in the west with this name, nor it there a master's with this name that i am aware of, but it probably exists in some systems and controls course. it's merely and overspecializied field that my grandma could get into, so an EE is far more likely to enter in this job.
>why would they pick a non-existing engineer over an EE ?

what did you study you mong

[Anonymous No.8504293]

>>8496166
Telecommunications is one of the subfields of EE, so if you want to study it, it makes little differences if any studying a Telecommunications Engineering degree or EE picking Telecommunications courses when you have to choose instead of pure Electronics or Industrial optional courses.

[Anonymous No.8504312]

>>8504273
>what did you study you mong
Physics undergrad, optical engineering masters.

As I said, optical engineering as a massively unsaturated field. The demand far exceeds the supply. Really, finding a job afterwards was easy. I was being headhunted left right and centre.

[Anonymous No.8504327]

>>8504273
>>8504312
Also just to add, usually unfilled optical engineering positions go to physics grads, not EE. So I guess optical engineering is a physics specialisation. Just like every other field.

[Anonymous No.8504348]

>>8503948
Mah nigga.
EngPhys is clearly so magnificent that he has nothing to say against it so he just skips it.

[Anonymous No.8504350]

>>8491242
There is literally no engineering degree that has nothing to do with electronics nowadays. Maybe civil and things of that sort but for the rest you will encounter them one way or another.

[Anonymous No.8504352]

>>8491359
Holy shit if only this existed

[Anonymous No.8504814]

>>8504352
>>8491359

its called physics you dumb niggers

[Anonymous No.8504853]

I spent the first 2 years in college majoring in Aerospace Engineering with a minor in Mathematics

>mfw Aero prooved too dificult
I switched to CS. I love it and Im extremely happy that I did switch, but I know I'll get made fun of so have at it. Sorry, desu!

[Anonymous No.8504873]

>>8504814
I... can't remember studying fossils in my physics class

[Anonymous No.8505013]

>>8504327
how developed is the field in europe ? phys undergrad here, thinking of going for a master's in engineering

[Anonymous No.8505062]

>>8504327
>>8505013
bump for interest
fellow phys undergrad here

[Carbon No.8505135]

>>8490709
Software Engineering

Software Engineering

Software Engineering

[Anonymous No.8505147]

>>8505135
>no physics
>not even the math from CS
>Engineering

Nice joke mate, you are just glorified programmers

[Anonymous No.8505411]

>>8505135
>software (((ENGINEERING)))

[Anonymous No.8505435]

>Very little mention of God Tier Material Science Engineering
fucking pathetic

[Anonymous No.8505461]

>>8504873
when you try to analyse them, they disappear

[Anonymous No.8505482]

>>8505435
do you mean poor man's mechE ?

[Anonymous No.8505533]

>>8505482
>poor man's mechE
not him but Material Science/Materials Engineering is a very specialized form of ChemE, that has managed to be just big enough to have its own fields.

[Anonymous No.8505543]

>structural/civil
I feel like I see more pickup-truck Joes than Chads there, but I go to college in a redneck state so maybe that's just bias. Every Civil guy I've had to directly interact with looked like they could recite every line from the larry the cable guy movie from memory alone (there was only one of those, right?)

[Anonymous No.8505553]

>>8505533
> chemE
> anything to do with chemistry and not the same toobs they study in meche

[Anonymous No.8505700]

>>8504140
I go to a top 15 Uni in the country and I'm doing it. Fight me, pussy

[Anonymous No.8505740]

>>8498130
>MIT not being major school
>Carnegie Mellon not being a reputable school

hehe :^)

[Anonymous No.8505917]

>>8505543
There were several Larry The Cable Guy movies. Delta Farce, that fucking one where he's an FBI agent, etc...oh, I'm a Civil from Arkansas btw

In all honesty Civ has the chillest people I've ever met. The rest of engineering majors are just jealous that they're autismo spergs.

[Anonymous No.8506096]

>>8505740
find me a link that shows a softeng major
i cannot find one

http://catalog.mit.edu/subjects/

>>8505700
post a link where is says you can do civil/me
there is too much overlap so most schools do not allow it

[Anonymous No.8506130]

>>8503978
I have a BS and MS both in ME and I work at Boeing. I have the same job as aerospace engineering grads.

ME degree is 100% fine for most aerospace industry jobs.

[Anonymous No.8506134]

>>8490709
genetic engineering, of course

[Anonymous No.8506144]

>>8502606
Does that mean a person with an engineering degree like mech or electrical can learn programming and get CS jobs?
Or can a mech/electrical guy just get a CS job fr4om what he learned in college?

[Anonymous No.8506174]

>>8490709
I'm going into electrical engineering, and some programming.
I just want to make robots, nanomachines, and maybe AI, if it's possible in my lifetime.

[Anonymous No.8506180]

>>8506130
Hey I'm an EE junior and am interested in applying to Boeing for an internship and possible job on graduation, do you have any tips for what they look for on resumes?

[Anonymous No.8506572]

>>8506144
there are many engineers who work strictly as matlab programmer
it is a different type of coding but still coding
if that interests you go for controls are your area

[Anonymous No.8506644]

Comp eng here, guys should I take signal processing like an adult or control systems like a helpless child? I'm not that smart desu

[Anonymous No.8506857]

>>8506644
they should both be required by your compeng program
they are both applied math classes but controls is a bit easier

[Anonymous No.8506879]

Social engineering
>thread

[Anonymous No.8507512]

>>8506644
can you take both ? if so then take both, if not do signal processing if you want to be buttraped by the math

[Anonymous No.8507537]

>>8506130
arigato senpai
I hope lockheed-chan notices me

[Anonymous No.8507673]

>>8506180
Pretty standard stuff - past internships and engineering related activities like FSAE are good to have. Their interview process is just a situational/behavioral one, i.e. "tell us about a time when you had to do X" and explain the situation, task, action, result, etc. No technical questions at all, unless you want to tell them about technical projects you did.

You might have a tough time getting into Boeing right now because they're just not hiring as many people nowadays due to financial difficulties (you may have heard about the $3B hit they took this year).

[Anonymous No.8507865]

>>8503568
Dow and DuPont chemical

[Anonymous No.8508417]

>>8490870
>civil
>lesbians

bretty true man

[Anonymous No.8508570]

>>8505013
>>8505062
Well I'm in Europe. Its pretty well established, but as I said the education hasn't quite caught up with the industry demand. They normally just take physicists and train them up to be optical engineers, having the specialised knowledge puts you miles ahead.

I probably would have got a job at ESA if I hadn't fucked up the interview so badly. MSc in optics is a guaranteed foot in the door.

[Anonymous No.8508885]

>>8508570
well you've sold it to me, i'm interested. what do you do at work and how much do you earn compared to other engineers. also can i get into the job with no masters in the future ( in about 5 years assuming the field expands ) or would i need one, i want to get Msc in EE in power systems, and i haven't found any optics masters in my country

[Anonymous No.8509002]

Hows aerospace compared to straight mech MSc ?

[Anonymous No.8509010]

>>8490870
This is amazingly true for ME and Civil. I even have a Civil-student friend who brings expensive wine to predrinks and sports a 5 figure watch.

[Anonymous No.8509032]

>>8509010
not so sure about this, it's only one example. altough i think most people in mechE are there because they like cars or planes and other shit like that, or because they've seen too many action and sci fi movies as kids

[Anonymous No.8509037]

>>8509002
physics are more geared towards application in flight mechanics so problem are going to have a basis in the aerospace field. also projects will involve a lot more about propulsion and aerodynamics.

other than it's pretty much the same, aero is one of those specialities of a main field ( mechE ) that is in fact as broad if not broader than it's root field/program

[Anonymous No.8509572]

>>8508885
>what do you do at work
experiments and simulations
>how much do you earn compared to other engineers
I managed to get a company to sponsor me through my phd, so I'm probably a bad example. But because of that my stipend is more than 50% higher than other phds. They jelly.
>can i get into the job with no masters in the future
probably. the reason i was head hunted so much was because of all the small to medium sized companies that didn't have the resource or time to train physics students from scratch

[Anonymous No.8510162]

I hope you guys know most chemical engineering jobs are in a smelly plant in the ghetto part of a shit hole city. Just remember that is where you will be spending your days with other beta males and the lone lesbian.

[Anonymous No.8510295]

lurning da trades>architectural engineering>architect

[Anonymous No.8510296]

>>8510295
flowchart

[Anonymous No.8510552]

>>8510296
post it faggot

[Anonymous No.8511011]

>>8490709
aerospace reporting in. rolling in sweet defense money

[Anonymous No.8511164]

I'm going to try to do a post grad in nuclear engineering after I finish my bachelors in mechanical. Is this a stupid idea?

[Anonymous No.8511278]

/v/

[Anonymous No.8511359]

>>8490870
I'm doing Photonic Engineering. Where does that put me?

[Anonymous No.8511373]

>>8510162
Most aren't located in cities idiot, they are generally just outside cities so if there is an accident the entire city doesn't get fucked

[Anonymous No.8511600]

>>8511359
>>8503987
mah niggah