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Photons have mass - prove me wrong...

>> No.8478072

>>8478065
They travel at the speed of light. Impossible if they have mass due to relativity.

>> No.8478077

>>8478072
Photons also have momentum, which necessitates that they have mass.

>> No.8478087
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8478087

>>8478065
>makes positive claim
>doesn't provide evidence

>> No.8478108

>>8478077
p=mv is wrong and an oversimplification. It's actually E^2 = (pc)^2 + (m_0c)^2. Which means E_photon = pc.

>> No.8478109

>>8478087

are you not inventive/smart enough to present a case to falsify him or atleast a proposition that can be tested to falsify?

>> No.8478119

>>8478065
It in fact has mass, but only relativistic mass and no rest mass.
E(photon)=h(plank constant)*f(frequency)
>>8478077
using E(photon) = pc
you can get the momentum of the photon which is directly proportional to its frequency.

eg blue light is "heavyer" than red

>> No.8478126

>>8478072
>Impossible if they have mass due to relativity
due to relativity it is also impossible that blackholes can exist, but yet they exist still.

>> No.8478127
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8478127

>>8478065
You cant prove something is wrong

>> No.8478131

>>8478126
Where did you get this bs from?
source pls?

>> No.8478136

>>8478087
>thinks there is an objective basis to the burden of proof

top brainlet

>> No.8478337

>>8478072
Photons have energy which apparently is maths

>> No.8478608

>>8478131
>source
Brown hole

>> No.8478631

>>8478337
I assume you meant to say mass. Energy is not mass. One can be turned into the other but that doesn't mean they're the same thing.

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8478640

>>8478065
>Move at the speed of light
>Have mass

PICK ONE FAGGOT

>> No.8478651

they're a force gauge boson & electromagnetic waves have unlimited range. therefore photons cannot have mass

>> No.8478671

>>8478127
Insofar as you can ever prove anything, you can only prove things wrong.

>> No.8478925

>>8478126
Are you a fucking idiot? A black hole is literally a consequence of Einstein's field equations. Go back to preschool.