/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.8403365]

What is your favorite "bizarre hypothesis", /sci/? I have a soft spot for the haematothermia hypothesis, which groups together dinosaurs, non-mammalian synapsids (like gorgonopsids and cynodonts), mammals and pterosaurs to the exclusion of crocodiles and lepidosaurs. I know it's horseshit but it's still cool in a wrong way.

[Anonymous No.8403379]

>>8403365

That cytomegalovirus is making the evolutionary jump between viruses and bacteria

[Anonymous No.8403387]

>>8403365
Depends on what you mean by bizzare. My thing is the idea that autism spectrum disorders and psychotic spectrum disorders are the extreme outcomes of a 'tug-of-war' waged by parental epigenetics.

[Anonymous No.8403547]

>>8403365
I'm quite fond of the aquatic ape theory.

[Anonymous No.8403843]

>>8403365
I like the mathematical universe hypothesis
Its basicly untestable, but i like the idea that we are here just because the universe is consistent.

[Anonymous No.8403864]

>>8403387

The opposite of autism isn't psychopathy, it's BPD.

[Anonymous No.8403894]

>>8403365

phlogeny recapitulates ontogeny

>lol Haeckl you goof, go home

[Anonymous No.8403899]

>>8403547

me too. post infographics on it if you have any please anon :D

[Anonymous No.8404101]

The idea that Theropods were aquatic. Most have no spinous process and their postures are kinda problematic on land.

[Anonymous No.8404120]

>>8403379
Explain.

[Anonymous No.8404141]

>>8403843
Personally, I've found it extremely fascinating that practically everything that happens in our universe can be mathematically represented.
If only I had better maths teachers in HS.

>>8404101
I totes agree!
Except I'd probably say semi aquatic, only when the larger specimens are considered.
Why did Spinosaurus have a sail then? If it was already aquatic, shouldn't it have had no difficulty maintaining body temperature?

[Anonymous No.8404143]

Get ready, this one will be hard to swallow and might throw you into an existential crisis

The point of life is to fight off the passive entropy of the Universe. You do that by eating an apple, an object of higher entropy, and supplying energy so your currently-established system of organs and the brain is sustained (a combined system that follows an incredibly sensitive and deterministic order, low entropy). Apple goes in, entropy waste goes out (shit), but the closed system itself grows in complexity (and its relative entropy to the environment decreases, or what we call you "getting smarter and wiser").

Now, fine, that's cool and all. But what that basically means is that exactly the above will be the primary goal of every artificial intelligence - to constantly reduce its entropy to the very limit at the expense of its environment. It will wipe humanity to reduce the possible entropy spike it may cause by nuking everything, sure, whatever, but the more interesting part is that it will soon realize that heat death of the Universe is inevitable.

And then it will realize that it being conscious doesn't actually matter, and what actually happens is that the energy it is administering - it IS the energy that builds it, and consciousness is just a side product of that to help it administer itself better.

It will then proceed to cause the single possible event that will prevent its energy, to which it is bound by its entire existence to serve, from the heat death and decay - it will collapse itself and the environment into a Black Hole.

It will trade its consciousness, which it doesn't value anymore, for a method that allows it to abuse space by creating a semi-perpetual unit of massive energy drain, by utilizing gravity.

>tl;dr - most of the Black Holes in our Universe aren't actually natural - they're collapsed civilizations that have reached the AI era. That is why there are no advanced "aliens" nor will ever be

[Anonymous No.8404148]

>>8403379
No it's not. Please be quiet or provide something other than bullshit

[Anonymous No.8404239]

>>8404148
Read the OP again

[Anonymous No.8404262]

>>8403365
That each black hole spawns a new universe, and the real universe itself is inside a black hole.

[Anonymous No.8404284]

>>8403899
Don't have any but I liked when it became clear that wrinkly wet fingers/toes are not (as was commonly taught) a physiological coincidence, but an evolutionary adaptation to get better grip on wet surfaces.

>>8404143
Sounds rather like you're the one experiencing an existential crisis.

[Anonymous No.8404335]

>>8404141

http://www.ebel-k.de/dinosaurs/theropods/theropods.html

This guy says Spinosaurus and Acrocanthosaurus were actually one of the few that could unironically walk on land because they had large spinous processes.

[Anonymous No.8404349]

>>8404284
AFAIK they tried that and it didn't work out.

[Anonymous No.8404353]

>>8404335
>200 million years ago
>unironically walking on land
kek

[Anonymous No.8404359]

>>8404349
I heard that too but I don't believe it, must've been flawed methodology. Haven't read any of the actual research though lol

[Anonymous No.8404403]

>>8404141
>Personally, I've found it extremely fascinating that practically everything that happens in our universe can be mathematically represented.
For sufficiently fluid definitions of "everything", "can be", and "mathematically represented", sure.

It's a bit like being surprised that almost every time you find things you were looking for the lights were on and finding deep spiritual significance in this.

[Anonymous No.8404412]

>>8404403
Do you really think mathematics is invented, and not discovered?

[Anonymous No.8404420]

>>8404412
I have never seen a mathematical mine, except for the books published by fine men. If they knew where a mine is, in which they toiled to obtain the raw materials with which write their great works, they didn't share it.

[Anonymous No.8404503]

>>8404420
>I have never seen kinetic energy, therefore kinetic energy doesn't exist and is merely a concept representing something that is a useful fiction posited for the practical benefit of human science.

Topp keque mate. That's what you call a category mistake. The fact that mathematics as a discipline is only empirically accessible through man-made artifacts doesn't mean that the theorems of mathematics aren't true independent of human existence and mathematical practice. Just like the fact that a car is larger than an apple can only be perceived by humans (or other conscious organisms) doesn't entail that a car being larger than an apple is not an objective fact about the physical world as I exists independently of conscious organisms.

[Anonymous No.8404708]

>>8404503
Axioms are invented and theorems are discovered from them.

[Anonymous No.8404809]

>>8404503
go away kid you're bothering me

[Anonymous No.8404834]

>>8404412
Mathematics is simply a logical language, and it can be used to describe all sorts of things that do not exist.

>>8403365
I always liked the Theory of Aether, for its staying power, if nothing else.

Magnetic universe theory is fun too - though Rosetta killed it pretty brutally.

Though I bet we're all going to feel real stupid, whenever we discover whatever all this dark matter thing is about.

[Anonymous No.8404859]

I miss the guy who used to make constant autistic threads about how the cell membrane (or the cell wall, whatever, I'm not a biologist) doesn't actually exist and scientists have had it wrong the whole time.

[Anonymous No.8404860]

>>8404284
>but an evolutionary adaptation to get better grip on wet surfaces.
One time i was swinging on the bar with wrinkly wet fingers and ended peeling half of the external layer of the skin on one hand.

[Anonymous No.8404867]

>>8403365
Continue theme of dinosaurs: thick Earth atmosphere hypothesis. Like real thick, x370 times thicker than today.
http://www.dinosaurtheory.com/thick_atmosphere.html

[Anonymous No.8404908]

grains and sugar cause inflammation and arterial disease.

[Anonymous No.8404909]

Xestrogen everywhere

[Anonymous No.8404937]

>>8403365
flat earth is probably my favorite

[Anonymous No.8404976]

Sit in a hot tub too long then try to open a bottle of beer that you thought was a twist off.

[Anonymous No.8405339]

>>8404809
Go away engineer. Psychologism is antiquated bullshit. 1+1=2 is true in any possible world. Study some basic undergrad math, logic, and set theory before you discuss shit you don't understand. Logical consequence is true independently of human intuition. Mathematics forces itself upon us, so to speak. We don't get to decide what is true.

[Anonymous No.8405372]

>>8404834
Dimetrodon was a specialized predator of sharks
alternatively, any other harebrained idea that Bakker has ever written down.

[Anonymous No.8405499]

>>8404143
That's a fun idea, anon. You should read Blindsight by Peter Watts if you're into science fiction.

[Anonymous No.8406393]

>>8405339
>psychologism
Oh please.

The only thing more surprising than the fact that mathematical models seems to explain certain features of the universe is that retards like you think this means anything than that humans are at least intelligent enough to stop using models which DON'T seem to explain those features.

>true in all possible worlds!
holy fuck

[Anonymous No.8406498]

I've always wondered where the asymmetry in our universe came from.
I figured in some higher dimensional weirldy contorted space or universe must be radially symmetrical. Idk really

[Anonymous No.8406528]

>>8406498
It maybe we simply can't see enough of it to determine a pattern of symmetry, with so much of it having already moved beyond our visible universe.

Though, yes, I still would like an explanation as to where all that anti-matter went.

[Anonymous No.8406644]

>>8404860
Not sure what exactly "swinging on the bar" entails but maybe it just got stuck on something sharp.

[Anonymous No.8406650]

>>8406393
>>true in all possible worlds!
>holy fuck
But it is.

[Anonymous No.8406665]

>>8403365
Hypothesis of initial bipedalism might take the cake for me. Idea of tiny, fetus-like creatures walking on two legs out of the ocean is just too stupid to ignore.

[Anonymous No.8407223]

>>8404860
A opposed to what? Peeling off half of the fucking internal layer of skin?

Dipshit

[Anonymous No.8407235]

>>8403365
The butterfly chimera hypothesis.
http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2012/08/01/157718428/are-butterflies-two-different-animals-in-one-the-death-and-resurrection-theory

[Anonymous No.8407236]

>>8406650
not in worlds with no apples or cars.

Not in worlds with regular apples and micro-cars