/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.8402875]

Is biology just chemistry?

[Anonymous No.8402876]

No.

[Anonymous No.8402884]

>>8402875
No

Chemistry deals with things at the scale of atoms. Examples: bonding, structure, behavior, physically observable properties.

Biology deals with interactions of things bigger than atoms. Examples: cells, metabolism, function, ecosystems, evolution, reproduction, genetics, life, and so on.

Physics looks at how everything interacts together, and also subatomic interactions. Examples: fluid dynamics, weather, friction, space, nuclear physics, quarks, and all that.

[Anonymous No.8402929]

explain natural selection using only chemistry

[Anonymous No.8402932]

>>8402929
>what are emergent properties

[Anonymous No.8402937]

>>8402932
>what is you're a fucking retard and I hate you go die

[Anonymous No.8402938]

>>8402932
I said explain natural selection not evolution

[Anonymous No.8403046]

Is chemistry just physics?

[Anonymous No.8403049]

>>8402929
Clusters of chemicals that are good at producing more of themselves are more prevalent than those that aren't

[Anonymous No.8403205]

>>8402875
Yes.
And chemistry is just physics.
And physics is just mathematics.
And mathematics is just philosophy.

[Anonymous No.8403214]

>>8402875
its chemistry and jesus mixed together

[Anonymous No.8403235]

>>8403046
Yes, chemistry is based solely on the different attractions between physical components

[Anonymous No.8403239]

>>8403046
isnt physics just mathematics?

[Anonymous No.8403311]

>>8403049
>good at producing more of themselves

based off what?

[Anonymous No.8403557]

>>8403205
>And philosophy is subjective interpretation
>And Science is subjective
>Science is a Hoax

[Anonymous No.8403898]

>>8402884
biochemestry is pretty much the best of both worlds. you look at metabolism, cell functions (and all things bio) but in such detail that you look at the different molecules.

best of both worlds. best of both distinct worlds. OPs question is a no.

[Anonymous No.8404268]

>>8403239
isn't mathematics just philosophy?

[Anonymous No.8405201]

>>8402929
the production of selected chemicals in a greater quantity within the brain and cells (DNA) of some organisms will yield a more successful means of reproduction which is just the mixing of single stranded deoxyribo nucleic acid strands

yeah fuck biology

[Anonymous No.8405262]

>>8403049
Correct. Now the real question is: why does it happen?
The answer is thermodynamics/God.

[Anonymous No.8405505]

>>8405201
>using only chemistry
>mentions the brain, cells, organisms, reproduction

[Anonymous No.8405517]

>>8403557

Well, of course science is subjective, as you always have to interpret findings.

But it's an informed kind of subjectivity instead of blind theorizing.

[Anonymous No.8405538]

Okairi, Ken-sama

[Anonymous No.8405604]

>>8405201
>reproduction which is just the mixing of single stranded deoxyribo nucleic acid strands
>mixing of single stranded deoxyribo nucleic acid
>single stranded DNA

Do you really think reproduction is the ligation of single stranded genomic DNA from two parent organisms? Jesus christ...

[Anonymous No.8406012]

>>8403557
>tfw objectively speaking, everything is subjective

[Anonymous No.8406023]

>>8405262
>asking why

A real scientist asks how

[Anonymous No.8406026]

>>8402875
Biology is applied chemistry which is applied physics which is applied maths.

[Anonymous No.8406036]

>>8402875
Psychology is biology for brainlets.
Biology is chemistry for brainlets.
Chemistry is physics for brainlets.
Physics is mathematics for brainlets.
Mathematics is philosophy for actually smart people.
Philosophy is psychology for brainlets.

[Anonymous No.8406189]

>>8406036
>tfw great at math and chem but shit at phys and bio

[Anonymous No.8406200]

>>8406026

Stupid fucking undergraduate.

[Anonymous No.8406224]

Fuck offffff

When will these stupid X is just applied Y memes die off

I actually knew a faggot who believed this wholeheartedly

[Anonymous No.8406225]

>>8406200
Prove me wrong faggit

[Anonymous No.8406259]

>>8406225
Just to pick one of many examples, population genetics, an area of biology, is applied math, not applied chemistry.

[Anonymous No.8406268]

>>8406259
>population genetics, an area of biology, is applied math, not applied chemistry.

biology = applied chemistry
and chemistry = applied physics
and physics = applied mathematics

so we replace

chemistry = applied(applied mathematics)
biology = applied(applied(applied mathematics))
biology = applied^3(mathematics)

so population genetics is still applied mathematics, as biology is still applied mathematics.

Are you dumb? Where you not taught the chain rule in your memeulus class?

[Anonymous No.8406271]

>>8406268
Oh, so you're just pretending to be retarded. Nice troll, dude.

[Anonymous No.8406278]

>>8406271

But biology is still applied chemistry and it is still applied mathematics because it is applied applied applied mathematics.

[Anonymous No.8406285]

>>8406278
You don't actually need to use any chemistry concepts in population genetics, is all in saying, so to say it's applied chemistry is inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.8406289]

>>8404268
isn't philosophy just memes?

[Anonymous No.8406291]

>>8406285
>it's applied chemistry is inaccurate.

But chemistry is just another form of applied mathematics.

Everything is applied mathematics.

It doesn't matter how many times you consecutively apply mathematics, it will still be mathematics.

[Anonymous No.8406294]

>>8402875
Is physics just algebra?

[Anonymous No.8406300]

>>8406291
Ok, I understand, you're an idiot who hasn't even finished undergrad. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Anonymous No.8406304]

>>8406300
>you're an idiot who hasn't even finished undergrad

I haven't finished undergrad but I am not an idiot.

[Anonymous No.8406325]

>>8406289
And what are memes?

[Anonymous No.8406352]

Certain parts of biology are, like physiology, which is a constrained and contextual understanding of chemistry, and thus physics.

But certain parts are not. For example, behavioral ecology and the mathematic dynamic of evolution. These are more like constrained, contextual versions of pure mathematics.

[Anonymous No.8407249]

>>8406289
The universe is made of memes

[Anonymous No.8408166]

>>8406291
And what does this prove? Nothing. No one cares that technically you could describe an organism in its entirety in the context of mathematics. It is not practical to describe everything as 'maths' after a certain point, no matter how much casuistry you employ to defend your position.

Either way, you are misunderstanding mathematics, everything (so far) can be explained using mathematics, but it is a tool and that is all. Mathematics is not anything, it is just a set of descriptors that seem to be both useful and accurate. I am not saying that to devalue it, I am just telling you what it is not.

[Anonymous No.8408184]

This is like asking if chemistry is just subatomic physics. Yes, in a sense, but if you claim there's no value in chemistry as a result, you're an idiot.
>>8403557
Science is always influenced by the person making the claims. All knowledge is constructed and all that. But some knowledge is constructed on top of observation and some is constructed whole-cloth.

The most useful knowledge is that which is constructed on top of empirical observation but which nonetheless recognizes its status as produced by subjects within a specific socio-political context.

[Anonymous No.8408409]

>>8406289
Isn't memes just sociology?

[Anonymous No.8408444]

And psychology is biology, and economics is psychology, and physics is chemistry, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

>In 2009, Gu et al. presented a class of physical systems that exhibits non-computable macroscopic properties.[11][12] More precisely, if one could compute certain macroscopic properties of these systems from the microscopic description of these systems, then one would be able to solve computational problems known to be undecidable in computer science.