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Did science make the world a better place?

>> No.8362904

>>8362903
Yes

>> No.8362911

>>8362903
In terms of productivity, quality of life, etc, yes.

It has yet to change human nature, though. A lot of people will always be self centered and amoral, and will use whatever means possible to serve their interests, which unfortunately sometimes includes the products of science.

>> No.8362913

>>8362903
For whom?

>> No.8362918

>>8362913
Now this guy's asking the right questions

>> No.8362920

>>8362913
For who/whatever you deem important enough to consider when asked the question "did science make the world a better place?".

You're allowed to think for yourself.

>> No.8362924

>>8362920
I think he was aware, he only posed his question so as to cause some inquisition within the readers of said post about how science has helped some and fucked others right in the ass

>> No.8362929

Indigenous Australians were quite content with their lifestyle of tribes and gathering/hunting before the Brits brought their science. Ignorance is bliss.

If making the world a better place equates to people having a wider perception of life, and thus an expanded ignorance bubble, then sure, science made the world a better place. That perception of life, however, is infinite. So science is just man digging in his nose for gold, but only finding boogers.

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8362930

>>8362903
No

>> No.8362952

This is a dumb question. What science are you talking about? Geography? Fisics? And, again, "better" in which way? If it is life quality, it made better and worse at the same time: Better for people who think and are lucky to born in a rich family, and worse for people who are moron and not lucky, like some kids in Africa or some shit like that(I'm not calling they morons...). Before science there was no thing such as "hungry, or poor people" because people had to stick to each other to live, so, everybody had the same life. Now, there's people in very bad situations living a shitty life. But, in the other hand, now we can understand the world in which we live, and we know how things work and we don't pray anymore for water(at least, most of us don't need to), we contruct hydroeletric stations. So, there's planty of point of vews that need to be considered before answering that question, and, probably, there's no right or wrong answer, there are just and only point of views, and the answers are gonna be different in which one of them. That's why this is a dumb question.

>> No.8363043

Whatever good science has done is negated by overpopulation

>> No.8363128

>>8362903
Society hasn't and science keeps society alive so no.

>> No.8363222

Yes and no, it depends on what magnification you view the world at.

>> No.8363234

>>8362903
By the "World" you mean the world itself or our society and lives? If it's the world itself, sure it didn't, we have overpopulation, we can now destroy the entire world with nuclear bombs, we're destroying nature tu build buildings, species are extinting 300 times faster, new deseases came up just because of science, too(this one is only bad for humans, the world is completely fine with it). But if you're talking about our society, check the
>>836952
Which is me :D

>> No.8364350

>>8362903
No. Inventions and technological advancements are products of practical use, chance, and necessity. First there is a need for something followed by new scientidic theories attempting to make sense of them. Progress is made by those working in the real world, not by those sitting in an office.

>> No.8364356

Science did, humans didn't.

>> No.8364360

>>8362903

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm

>> No.8364377

science is inevitable

>> No.8364437

>>8362903
no

>> No.8364450

>>8364360
Holy shit. We found /pol/s sacred text

>> No.8366001

>>8364437
Dude, the atomic bomb bring peace between the most powerful countries through deterrence strategy. Why start a war where all participants would lose?
The atomic bomb is really a symbol of peace. Be sure that its creation saved more lives than it destroyed.

>> No.8366007

>>8362929
Pass me the joint, dude
*smokes*

>> No.8366010

>>8366001

P.O.E

>> No.8366013

>>8362903

Well, technology is litterly the only thing that increased life quality.

Sooo?

>> No.8366015

>>8362903
If it's a belief system, it is the first one that offers anything to anybody.

>> No.8366022

It made the world a better place for scientists, and this is the right thing to do.

Why should we conduct research for the good of mankind? If they at least shared our ideals then maybe I would consider letting them be a part of the future, but most can't even think properly and cling stubbornly to their spooks not to mention treat us like inferiors just because we have the wrong hair cut or the wrong taste in music and other petty bullshit. We don't owe them shit, we should accumulate wealth for ourselves and try to buck their system as much as possible.

>> No.8366029

>>8366022

Everyone can't be scientists anon. Not yet at least.

No relevant job is more important than the other.

>> No.8366045 [DELETED] 

>>8366022
Human cattle power an economic machine that makes science possible. They have a use. Without them, no moonshot or LHC or any great scientific endeavor would ever be possible.

>> No.8366051

>>8366022
Human cattle power an economic machine that makes science possible. They have a use. Without them, no moonshot or LHC or any great scientific endeavor would ever be possible.

>> No.8366157

>>8362903
Science is dualistic, like everything.

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8366180

It's done quite a bit this week...

>> No.8366190

>>8362903

The fruits of scientific research does.

Science as in the scientific process just investigating stuff does little more than build up a better understanding and relationship between 'things'.

An engineer makes the world a better place than a pure maths professor for instance.

>> No.8366195

>>8366022
>If they at least shared our ideals

>fraud doesn't exist amongst scientists!
>scientists don't succumb to industry lobbying to produce 'research' supports said industries new product!
>scientists have never accepted bribes nor conducted horrendously unethical experiments akin to torture!

>> No.8366268

>>8362903
Yes, obviously

Ignore meme answers

>> No.8366501

i would be happier planting potatoes for my entire life and dying at 40

>> No.8366506

>>8366190
A mathematician, just by existing, makes the world a better place.

>> No.8366763

>>8366010
What is that?

>> No.8366870

Science is good and bad in almost equal measures.