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8349811 No.8349811 [Reply] [Original]

Why do people make mistakes?

For example, if you gave an average person a list of simple arithmetic exercises, and he had to compute them in his head, he would probably make a mistake in at least one of them. Not because they were hard for him, but because humans are fallible. Meanwhile a computer would be guaranteed to solve each one of them without ever making any mistakes.

So why didn't evolution grant humans the ability to not make mistakes?

>> No.8349813

>>8349811

Humans aren't specialized for computation. The human 'cognitive hardware' is designed to recall disparate memories and the associations between them just well enough to ensure a survivable degree of function.

The fact that we can do so much with what he have is a feat; however, when you consider the raw amount of storage required to keep all memories available to a person's recall in a modern computing device, the trade-off becomes apparent: less accuracy for (arguably) optimal use of space for what we most need it for.

Also
>evolved
Get rekt, son. Everybody who is really with science knows that there is a Creator.

>> No.8349829

Throughout the evolution of humans computing and stuff like that were not prioritys, but survival was. Thus even if there were genetic modifications that might have made humans nearly perfect at math they they just didn't have the evolutionary advantage to brains with better memory etc.

>> No.8349846

>>8349813
>knows
citation pls

>> No.8349858
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8349858

>>8349813
>when you consider the raw amount of storage required to keep all memories available to a person's recall in a modern computing device, the trade-off becomes apparent: less accuracy for (arguably) optimal use of space for what we most need it for.
But superior accuracy doesn't exclude superior memory. Take John von Neuman for example; he had both.

>Everybody who is really with science knows that there is a Creator.
Nice bait, faggot.

>> No.8349869

>>>ylilauta

>> No.8349875

>>8349846

Git gud. That's the citation.

>>8349858

You can have more efficient memory than the average person, but the physical limitations of von Neumann's brain were the same as those of anybody else. The brain works to store memories by essentially purging other memories; there's a fixed amount of information that can be stored in the human brain at any one time, and the brain, being self-organizing, attempts to account for this.

>Creator

I can't believe you're this new. Give us an update when you graduate.

>> No.8349956

>>8349811
>Why do people make mistakes?
All your parents

>> No.8350014

>>8349811
Have you ever seen a legit autist? They actually aren't very intelligent outside of a very narrow range of skills like solving problems like this. General intelligence is more than just doing arithmetic, and different functions inhibit each other. You don't need to be perfect at arithmetic.

>> No.8350022

>>8349811
because God created us this way

>> No.8350274

>>8349811
Because evolution isn't about math problems, it's about passing on your genes.
And sometimes mistakes help to pass genes on as evidenced by OP.

>> No.8350287

>>8349811
>why
>evolution
You mean "how", right?
We don't know.

>> No.8350436
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8350436

It's a side effect of your brain juggling so many internal and external tasks on a continuous basis.

When your average person is doing arithmetic exercises they are doing it on top of a multitude of other tasks. They're not simply solving a problem they're,

>moving their eyes/head
>adjusting their body
>coordinating their paper/screen for the best visual alignment
>processing the colors of said paper/screen
>putting their eyes in focus
>reading the problem
>recalling the meaning of each word and/or symbol in the problem
>keeping their ears open for distractions
>subtlety smelling their surroundings for distractive odors
>trying clear their mind of distractive thoughts
>figuring out the process
>adjusting their shoulders/arms/wrists/hands/fingers to manipulate the pencil, pen, chalk or keyboard.
>coordinating the inputs being made and connect in them to their proper place
>writing down the solution
>repeat several steps if they need to double-check the solution
>and repeat said entire process for each problem as needed

This is on top of,

>breathing
>processing physical sensations
>processing mental sensations
>pumping blood through out your body
>keeping your bowls in check
>and other miscellaneous but important bodily functions

Safe to say your average person is going to fuck up some where and it will most likely be on the arithmetic problem because it's the most expendable action at the moment.

>> No.8350641

>>8349811
Our brain is a universal aproximator through the learning proces. Not a (completely) hardwired system.

>> No.8350679

>>8350436
>Safe to say your average person is going to fuck up some where and it will most likely be on the arithmetic problem because it's the most expendable action at the moment.
That's it man. Arithmetic ranks preddy low on the organism-survival-priority-scale.

>> No.8350695

>>8350436
Also, it should be noted that humans display certain very similar characteristics of computers.

For instance if we lose the memory of one of the two numbers we're adding together we cannot complete the task and have to re-fetch the number we forgot, which takes a lot of time (akin to searching main memory for something that's been deleted from RAM or cache).

>>8349811
>Meanwhile a computer would be guaranteed to solve each one of them without ever making any mistakes.
Also this is only true of serial computers. Parallelized computing (such as the brain) often leads to unpredictable behavior, such as race conditions. Also you're forgetting buffer overflow, undefined behavior, and things of that nature.

>> No.8350701

>>8349811
We constantly mis-take information for representing something it doesn't since perception is hierarchical and inductive at each level, e.g., letters, words, sentences. Around the level of paragraphs mistakes are made due to induction becoming more abstract.

>> No.8350703

>>8349811
>a computer would be guaranteed to solve each one of them without ever making any mistakes.
This is incorrect. We include redundancies to essentially reduce the probability of error as low as possible, but computers still make errors just like humans. Blame randomness.

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8350706

>>8349956
>all

>> No.8351019

>>8349811
>>8349858
who is this semen demon?

>> No.8351032

>>8350706
The word for mother and father is "parents".
What is the word for uncle and aunt?

>> No.8351036

Evolution stops when we stop makin mistakess

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8351291

your question contains the answer. we didnt evolve perfect intelligence because it must not be of any evolutionary value/advantage to have it. this is why no group of people on earth is inherently smarter. there is no need for us to be any more like a calculator or eidetic memory device than we already are, bell curve per group notwithstanding. it just doesnt matter, and it still doesnt. now we can build devices so we will still not need to evolve that capacity. in fact, perhaps biological evolution reaches a natural limit, after which extrasomatic information is well organized enough by us to disallow further evolution.

>> No.8351403

>>8350695
>a poorly defined computing model leads to poorly defined behavior

no shit...

>> No.8351564

>>8349811
>So why didn't evolution grant humans the ability to not make mistakes?

That is WAY too abstract a concept for evolution to act upon... you are dealing with metaphysics, top be honest.