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The trick is this: wrap a drink in a wet paper towel and throw it into the freezer. This is supposed to cool the drink faster than without it.

What does science say?

>> No.8297613

http://physics.stackexchange.com/a/121329
this guy tested it and found it reduced the time to cool a can of beer to 4C from two hours to forty minutes

>> No.8297642
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8297642

>>8297577
>how does evaporative cooling work

I dunno. lol

>> No.8297704

>>8297642
But water freezes and not evaporates in freezer

>> No.8297744

>>8297704
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimation_(phase_transition)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthalpy_of_vaporization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity

So when you graduate High School anon?

>> No.8297800

>>8297704
Are you retarded anon? The whole point of this is that it doesn't immediately cool, so you're looking for ways to make it cool faster. It's warm enough for evaporation to occur due to the fact that water is currently in a liquid state. The cooler it is, the faster water molecules are forced into a crystal. Until the last moment the source of water becomes ice, water will change forms into vapor. Read up like this anon said >>8297744

>> No.8297828

>>8297704
Water doesn't evaporate when its frozen, correct. It undergoes sublimation.

If you have an ice maker in your freezer, you'll notice that fresh ice cubes are larger than old ice cubes.

>> No.8297843

water has a high heat capacity and offers a higher rate of heat transfer than air

>> No.8297949

>>8297577
Those are some pretty shitty numbers, you really should put kerosene onto the paper towel, not water.

>> No.8298102

>>8297949
What about 99% rubbing alcohol?

>> No.8298104

>>8297577
Yes it works, it's not efficient but works if you need to cool something down a bit quick.

>> No.8298118

>>8297577
Works, but it's retarded

If you want something cool, put it in the freezer the day before.

>> No.8298125

Makes mustard gas

>> No.8298128

>>8298118
this is among the top 5 most counterproductive posts I've seen on this site between 2008 and now

>> No.8298190

>>8297613

Really? It freezes in 1/3 the time with a wet paper towel around it? Did he weigh the towel before and after? How much towel water was lost?

>> No.8298193

>>8298125
Kek

>> No.8298194

>>8298190
plus there is added insulation from the towel.

Color me skeptical.

>> No.8298249

What is.... Increased surface area.
When do I get my $5 ??

>> No.8298317

>>8298249
What is water or any liquid for that matter being able to transfer heat at a higher rate than air or any gas?

wben do I get my highschool diploma?

>> No.8298473

>>8297704
>water not evaporates in freezer
L0L fgt pls

>> No.8298619

>>8298194
>Color me skeptical.

Be naked outdoors in winter.
Be wrapped in a wet bedsheet in winter.

Guess which situation will make you hypothermic faster.

>> No.8298628

>>8298619
is the blanket wool?

>> No.8298638

>>8298628
>bedsheet
>blanket

What spectrum are you?

>> No.8298893

>>8298102
Or diethyl-ether?

>> No.8299378

>>8298638
Not him, but to me "blanket" implies something relatively thick, whereas "bedsheet" refers to the super-thin cotton things.

>> No.8299380

>>8297577
well if it's saline maybe

>> No.8300521

>>8297613
Now add salt to the wet paper towl and its cold in 20 mins

>> No.8300530

>>8300521
Oh snap

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8301186

>>8298619

http://www.johnrleeman.com/2014/08/15/mythbusting-cooling-a-drink-with-a-wet-paper-towel/

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>>8297577
This is utter horse shit! This is a troll. It will make the bottle crack and leak everything all over your freezer. DO NOT DO THIS!

>> No.8301281

>>8301249

lol this nigga is full of shit

me and my mate do this all the time when the fridge is full

derrrr

>> No.8301310

>>8301249
If you're putting something like a plastic bottle of diet coke in the FREEZER it's gonna blow wide open whatever you put around it.
If you're trying to chill a beer in a glass bottle for a few minutes you're fine, and a wet paper towel does nothing to make it more likely to burst.

>> No.8301419

>>8301310
>If you're putting something like a plastic bottle of diet coke in the FREEZER it's gonna blow wide open whatever you put around it.

Nah. I've frequently forgot coke bottles in the freezer over the weekend with none of them ever rupturing. PET is pretty strong material, glass on the other hand can crack.

>> No.8301449

>>8297577
Yes it works, I use it all the time when I need a cold one fast.

I've never read about it, but I assume it works loosely on a basic heat flow principle. The liquid water acts as an interface of heat transfer from the bottle. The water layer is thin and dumps its heat to the freezer system quickly, entering (or approaching) the solid phase relatively fast. When the water begins to enter the solid phase, heat from the bottle+contents is favorably transferred to the water in the paper towel. It doesn't have anything to do with evaporation, as far as I'm concerned.

>> No.8301459

>>8301419
The only time I've had plastic soda bottles break is when they are on their side and the area around the cap cracks. The instance of it happening is like 1 out of 50 bottles I think.

>> No.8301548

>>8297577
Something like this would cool off the object to the wet-bulb temperature instead of the dry-bulb temperature, but I think in a freezer that wouldn't be much help because the RH would be close to 100%.