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8294361 No.8294361 [Reply] [Original]

>theory of relativity is almost 100 years old

I thought Science was supposed to advance knowledge not just jerk off with it?

Why are today's scientists so useless?

>> No.8294372

>>8294361
Well yeah it sucks.
>we live in an era where you can get a Nobel Prize for inventing the blue LED
Don't get me wrong, it's a fine invention, but not a discovery. The future of physics doesn't look so good.

>> No.8294389

>>8294361
It's more like Einstein was 100 years ahead.
>gravitational waves

>> No.8294391

>>8294361
its the retarded threads that hold the science back

sage

>> No.8294492

>>8294391
what?

>> No.8294503

>>8294361
We figured almost everything out, physics is almost at an end, or at least future discoveries will be beyond human comprehension

>> No.8294526

>>8294372
You clearly have no idea why it is a significant scientific discovery or the physics behind it (not even referring to its technological importance)

Condensed matter is so unappreciated by popsci brainlets like you

>> No.8294539

>>8294361
We still haven't figured out how to deal with the philosophical consequences. Einstein's ideas had a huge cultural impact, even though hell most people don't even understand it.

What about string theory? bosons and gravitons and stuff?

Honestly I think we've figured out physics pretty well by this point, the next great scientific revolution will be in biology.

>> No.8294545

>>8294361
The distractions they're dealt with primarily. Used to, people, in their off time, would contemplate how shit could be shit. Now we're more prone to watching TV, playing on the compoodles, using Google et cetera et cetera

Still, String theory

>> No.8294738

>>8294361
The reason why physics is in a rut is largely to do with the theory of relativity and the bad maths and models that go along with it.

>>8294389
Muh gravity waves meme.

>> No.8294922

>>8294389
>You're ahead by a century

:'(

>> No.8294929

>>8294738
Ah and presumably you have a superior theory? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

>> No.8294947

>>8294929
No, I just think that much of science being done, which is based on the theory of relativity is flawed and erroneous and is holding back other models that might be more interesting. We don't know everything yet and there is plenty of room still for debate and for a deeper analysis of how the world works. Why are relativists scared of competition?

>> No.8294976

>>8294539
>I think we've figured out physics pretty well by this point
idiots will never learn -_-"

>> No.8294977

>>8294947

>holding back other models that might be more interesting

Such as?

>> No.8294991

>>8294977
Dude, wtf, stop feeding.

>> No.8295003

>>8294947
>much of science being done, which is based on the theory of relativity is flawed and erroneous
How so?

>Why are relativists scared of competition?
Maybe if a competing theory has as much predictive power as relatvity. Until then, I think they're resting pretty easy.

>> No.8295019

>>8294526
What fundamental new phenomenon was discovered in the process?

>> No.8295321

>>8294526
sounds like you have no idea either. what are you on about?

>> No.8295499

>>8295019

not him but conceiving of, inventing the reactor for and developing an a system of doping and annealing a material which doesn't exit in nature to replace the light bulb

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8295505

Low quality bait. Come back when you have better bait.

>> No.8295525

>>8294361
>I thought
That's where you went wrong.

>> No.8295530

>>8294361
Relativity still works for certain things, there's no reason to replace it completely with something new.

>> No.8295568

>>8295499
I'm not saying those are not brilliant inventions but I'd hardly call them discoveries.

>> No.8296060

>>8294361
Before I even read your post, the catalog only showed your green text part

And I immediately thought the same thing

>what the fuck has our scientists been doing?
We have the Hadron Collider I guess

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8296095

>>8294922
DON'T DO THIS TO ME, MAN

I CAME TO SCI TO ESCAPE THE FEELS

>> No.8296259

>idiots repeating history by claiming physics is mostly "done".

>> No.8297968

>>8294361
Look at any "Orders of Magnitude" page on wiki and weep, OP. Look at the records for different man made physical measures and compare them to some of the cosmic magnitudes or physical limits.

I recently read a paper that used a curved conductor hit with an intense (i.o.w. pulsed) laser to create a pulsed magnetic field on the order of 1 kilotesla, in an area of about 1 mm squared. Stuff is getting freaking hard to do. All the low hanging fruit has been picked. We are at the engineering limits of everything. Last low hanging fruit is in biology, maybe space if we make a breakthrough. Considering the fact that some people think quantum gravity takes place at the Planck scale, it can seem like physics is at an incomplete lull due to impracticality.

>> No.8298332

>>8294503
Wew lad

Keep thinking that

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8298454

Wew, I'm new in /sci/ but never knew you guys had same ideas as me.

>> No.8298676

>>8294503
This was exactly what people thought about physics before QM and Relativity.

>> No.8298686

>>8294526
This.

The physics behind LEDs are complex as fuck

>> No.8298690

>>8294372
>Don't get me wrong, it's a fine invention, but not a discovery.

I'd like to see you make a blue LED

>> No.8298697

>>8294361
>Why are today's scientists so useless?
they arent useless. in fact a modern genius is much much more competent than a genius a century ago. it's just that the easy stuff has all already been done. but for example physics relating to engineering has progressed a lot in recent times. just take solid state electronics and photonics as an example

>> No.8298813

It's because people don't understand how Einstein did what he did. He started with an idea, a principle and then put it into the simplest mathematical formalism that was capable of realizing it.

Most people get caught up in the math ("muh differentiable manifolds" "muh Hilbert spaces") and they don't keep in mind what it MEANS. The people who do are few and far between, but they are making progress. Who knows, our math might not be at the level where it can express the ideas we need. We might need a theory of n-categories or something like that. I'd like to think it's not the case but it's possible.

>> No.8298824

>>8294361
I wonder if anyone here has any experience in physics. Because I don't see a single person who has an inkling.

>> No.8299090

>>8298690
>take regular led
>put blue cap on it

Wow that was hard.