SPACEX LAUNCH THREAD (JCSAT-16)

[Anonymous No.8269320]

Launch is at 05:26AM UTC (01:26AM EDT)

The payload is a KU/KA-band geostationary satellite. It's a heavy bird, so 1st stage landing will be quite difficult.

Watch at:
https://spacexstats.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OERDIFnFvHs

Press Kit:
http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/spacex_jcsat16_press_kit.pdf

[Anonymous No.8269323]

meme

[Anonymous No.8269325]

alright space

[Anonymous No.8269351]

Live in Florida- love to watch launches live- never gets old.

[Anonymous No.8269357]

[Anonymous No.8269363]

>>8269351
How clear is it there? I have a friend who is there for the week and I wonder if he can see the shower tonight at like 1:00

[Anonymous No.8269372]

>>8269363
We had severe thunderstorms today at around sixish. The sky is clear now, so great weather for a launch. I live next to disney and can view the rocket launch very clearly. Long as you're within 400 km of Kennedy you will be able to see very clearly.

[Anonymous No.8269385]

[Anonymous No.8269400]

Apollo 13 is on TNT right now, perfect way to pass the time

[Anonymous No.8269414]

>>8269320
I'M READY

[Anonymous No.8269435]

[Anonymous No.8269441]

>>8269385
that dog is right though

[Anonymous No.8269443]

O shit, I thought it was tomorrow night. glad i checked before going to bed. :)

[Anonymous No.8269448]

>>8269385
What have Blu actually done? All I ever hear is they're selling New Shepard tickets to celebs

[Anonymous No.8269452]

>>8269320
i wonder how many engineers Musk is going to assault if this thing crashes

[Anonymous No.8269453]

I live about 30 minutes west of the Cape. Should I drive over and watch the launch from 10 miles away?

[Anonymous No.8269457]

>>8269448
They are working on a stage by stage basis

They have successfully flown and landed their 1st stage like 5 times now.

Then they will have some crewed flights under their belt....

Then they release their 2nd stage, which allows for getting the capsule into orbit

Plus, they have the best rocket engine engineers in the industry. ULA is buying their next engine

[Anonymous No.8269459]

>>8269453
Yes

Plus you get to see the Perseus meteors

[Anonymous No.8269461]

>>8269459
I actually drove out to a dark site about 3 hours away a few years ago with a couple friends. They were all gigantic fucking faggots about it despite me telling them it was a 3 hour drive, but I enjoyed it thoroughly. The place was a 0 or 1 on the Bortle scale and it was fantastic.

I just don't know where I'd park to watch the launch. I have some time to drive around, I suppose. I'll update with either photos or video if at all possible because space.

[Anonymous No.8269471]

>>8269452

[Anonymous No.8269474]

>>8269453
Drive as far as you can on 529 till you get to the gate. Also cops are assholes if you pull over to watch the launch.

[Anonymous No.8269476]

obligatory meme post

[Anonymous No.8269492]

>>8269320
>only linking technical stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZTCEO0gvLo
Funky space music already started

[Anonymous No.8269504]

STARTING

[Anonymous No.8269507]

All systems go
lets do this autistms

[Anonymous No.8269508]

Mission control doesnt look very crowded

[Anonymous No.8269513]

>>8269508
no dragon = no need for the dragon tech people

[Anonymous No.8269514]

>>8269508
starting to get old hat (also after hours in Hawthorne)

[Anonymous No.8269515]

>>8269320
is this a relaunch of a landed falcon 9 first stage?

[Anonymous No.8269519]

>>8269515
nein

[Anonymous No.8269523]

>>8269519
god damn it i want them to keep up there stupidly fast progress. I want to watch elons smug fucking look when he is reusing rockets every single week and all of his competitors are failing to even get contracts.

[Anonymous No.8269527]

>>8269519
Why are they being pussy and not lunching a landed falcon?

[Anonymous No.8269530]

>>8269523
We all do, anon, we all do.

[Anonymous No.8269532]

>>8269523

[Anonymous No.8269535]

>>8269474
Wound up at a hotel right at the coast. I'd post a picture, but potato phone. I'm about 10 miles away with a clear view of SLC-40.

[Anonymous No.8269537]

>>8269530
>>8269532
can you imagine if he sticks to his word and starts landing dragon capsules full of shit on mars, launches a new rocket every week and eventually starts building an interplanetary ship in orbit.

[Anonymous No.8269540]

They are lowering the strongback

[Anonymous No.8269542]

>>8269540
Thanks bro that was hard to see

[Anonymous No.8269543]

>>8269527
They're doing like 10 full length test burns on them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZQY902xQcw

[Anonymous No.8269544]

>>8269537
next step: SpaceX generation ships heading toward the newly discovered planet around Alpha Centauri

[Anonymous No.8269545]

ONE MINUTE

[Anonymous No.8269547]

LIFTOFF

[Anonymous No.8269549]

why do the two broadcasts have different speeds?

[Anonymous No.8269554]

>>8269549
one is in km/s and one in m/s

[Anonymous No.8269555]

max Q

[Anonymous No.8269556]

STAGE SEPARATION

[Anonymous No.8269560]

>>8269544
i'm ready to lead humanity into glorious interstellar war. I can't wait to raze planets and burn ayy lmaos to ash with nuclear fire.

[Anonymous No.8269564]

30 minute drive: worth it. Found a good spot. Quite pleased.

[Anonymous No.8269566]

OH MY GOD

[Anonymous No.8269567]

RIP

[Anonymous No.8269568]

They did it!

[Anonymous No.8269569]

bullseye

[Anonymous No.8269570]

>>8269567
GET FUCKED

[Anonymous No.8269571]

Dubs for elon is god

[Anonymous No.8269572]

ONNAPAD

[Anonymous No.8269573]

good job trump

[Anonymous No.8269575]

>>8269572
Is it the same rocket/ship?

[Anonymous No.8269577]

>>8269567
NOT TODAY

[Anonymous No.8269578]

[Anonymous No.8269580]

>>8269575
no/yes

[Anonymous No.8269581]

>>8269578
Thank you based Elon

[Anonymous No.8269582]

>>8269580
Hidden compartment trick?

[Anonymous No.8269583]

"remember guys the primary mission is the delivery of the payload"

i'm so sick of hearing this. no one cares about putting shit in space we have been doing that for 70 years and have complete confidence in their ability to do it. i just want to see them land shit or go places.

[Anonymous No.8269584]

>>8269578
Thank you based Elon

[Anonymous No.8269585]

>>8269578
Thank you based Elon

[Anonymous No.8269586]

>>8269578
thank you based elon

[Anonymous No.8269587]

>>8269583
They dont want to piss off their customers

[Anonymous No.8269588]

>>8269583
They have to say that for their customers

[Anonymous No.8269589]

>>8269578
Thank you based Elon

[Anonymous No.8269590]

I just turned 18.
How likely is it that I will die on Martian soil?

[Anonymous No.8269591]

With this launch, they broke their own record of number of launches per year: 8th so far of a planned 18, compared to 7 last year.

[Anonymous No.8269592]

>>8269578
Thank you based Elon

[Anonymous No.8269593]

>>8269590
Depends if "on impact" counts

[Anonymous No.8269594]

>>8269590
not very unless you work for it every day

[Anonymous No.8269596]

>>8269593
What are the chances on both? (It counts/it doesnt)

[Anonymous No.8269598]

Another succesfull landing ? Cue the memes.

[Anonymous No.8269599]

>>8269593
>kek

[Anonymous No.8269600]

>>8269598

[Anonymous No.8269601]

>>8269596
Do you have lots of money

Or,

Will you have lots of money in 40 years

If you have to say "how much" you won't have enough

[Anonymous No.8269602]

>>8269593
"I think it would be great to be born on Earth and to die on Mars. Just hopefully not at the point of impact." - Elon Musk

http://shitelonsays.com/transcript/elon-musk-and-the-giving-pledge-2012-05-21#quote_-304447912

[Anonymous No.8269604]

no the primary mission is to expose people to alien craft so they can record them and leak to the rest of us
musk knows this, or at least has considered it.

[Anonymous No.8269606]

>>8269600

[Anonymous No.8269607]

>>8269601
>>8269602

Looking at SpaceX's evolution in less than 10 years I dont think you would need millions to visit Mars in +30 years

[Anonymous No.8269610]

>>8269598

According to based Peter Thiel, Elon actually isn't that big of a fan of Star Trek; he thinks that it's 'communist' and much prefers the 'capitalist' Star Wars.

[Anonymous No.8269615]

>>8269607
Elon says 500k

But that's elonspeak

[Anonymous No.8269617]

>>8269607
elon said it will probably cost the net worth of an upper middle class american adult. so you could sell your car and house and everything you own and move to mars with just a backpack. I'm sure there will be scholarships to educated and transport needed people to mars. so you could get training as a technician or doctor or something and get a free ride to mars. once they have people actually living there it will become a profitable thing to send more people and the price will go down.

i am 24 and have no applicable skills but i fully expect that i will stand on either the moon or mars at some point in my life.

[Anonymous No.8269619]

>>8269606

[Anonymous No.8269624]

[Anonymous No.8269628]

>>8269615
>TFW no Based Tim Urban :(
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/08/how-and-why-spacex-will-colonize-mars.html/3

[Anonymous No.8269639]

>>8269572
they need to go to a video feed from a support ship, to stream/record landings. the barge camera feed always goes out.

[Anonymous No.8269640]

https://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/755854198491578368

>tfw Elon hires Chris Hadfield
>He leads the first Red Dragon crew
>makes a video for Life On Mars

[Anonymous No.8269643]

SpaceX making it look easy again! Perfect launch, perfect landing, perfect deployment.

[Anonymous No.8269644]

>>8269357
this image was not needed today!

[Anonymous No.8269645]

>>8269617
you may stand on mars, but not because of space-x.
ayy lmao
when the truth is revealed, look back to this shitty site and see that /x/ was right all along.
(ok well not /x/ per se, because they're fucking retards)

[Anonymous No.8269646]

>>8269617

Won't we have quite advanced robots in, say, 20 years when this would really be kicking off?

If he plans to have the first human landing in 2025 (and let's assume for the sake of argument that he's not being overly optimistic and say that it actually does happen in 2025) I would imagine that the first few years would be spent setting up and scaling up the really basic fundamentals that would be needed to sustain life; making sure there were adequate and reliable sources of water, making sure that the habitat was safe and effective, making sure that enough food could be grown in greenhouses on Mars and so on.

I would've thought they'd spend at least 5 years with a relatively small outpost and testing everything relentlessly to be sure that it was safe enough that many people would be willing to go and live there permanently.

So I would think that real 'colonisation' efforts would occur no sooner than 2030.

A number of experts in AI are convinced that strong AI could be developed in the late 2020s; if that occurs, surely we'll need fewer people to do the really hard and unpleasant work of reconstructing an entire planetary industrial base on mars? I can't imagine many people would want to become miners or smelters on Mars; so we could use robots instead. This would also radically reduce the need for food and shelter space; and they could work in much harsher environments than humans could.

I'm not sure we'll need that many humans there, really. Personally I'd rather let the robots do the hard work for a few decades and then maybe pop over once things are relatively comfortable.

[Anonymous No.8269653]

>>8269646
At the smallsat conference this week
the spacex milf lady asked the audience

Who here would drop everything, go to Mars and never come back?

About 5% of the audience raised their hands

Think of how many people who could pay for a 3 mil ticket would pay for it.....

[Anonymous No.8269657]

>>8269617
Lol, Elon Musk will own all of the houses in america, weird

[Anonymous No.8269658]

>>8269646
yeah but but someone has to fix those robots and tell them what to do. Also lets say it is 2030 and there is an outpost running robots on mars building the infrastructure for a city. thats less then 14 years from now. lets say they don't have the city up and running until 2045
i'd still only be 53. By 2045 we will also have huge advancement in medical technology. It's likely that people alive today will far outlive any humans before them. we may start seeing people nearing 200 years old soon. at the very least we will be seeing 80 years olds with 30 year old bodies.

[Anonymous No.8269659]

>>8269653
I would.

>Elon, if you lurk /sci/ after every succesfull landing for fap material, I volunteer for a one way ticket to Mars

[Anonymous No.8269660]

>>8269658
>we may start seeing people nearing 200 years old soon
quotation needed

longevity has been stuck at 120 for a very long time, medical geneticists have no idea how to outrun the hard wired limit of biological senecenes

[Anonymous No.8269664]

I don't want to sound dumb but what happens to the second stage after the satellite is deployed. does the second stage just stay in orbit becoming more space debris or will it use any type of propulsion to send it to burn up upon reentry.

[Anonymous No.8269665]

>>8269653

I'm guessing you're talking about Gwynne Shotwell, the President and COO?

Yeah, I'm not massively optimistic about the numbers of people that Elon talks about ('millions') going to Mars in the short term.

The people who would really want to go would generally be people who didn't have a particularly comfortable or enjoyable life on Earth; I don't imagine many people with nice lives, families, friends etc would decide 'you know what? I don't actually enjoy my comfortable upper-middle class lifestyle, I'm going to leave all my family and friends behind and become an iron ore miner on Mars and live in a tent with a few hundred other people.'

The people who would want to go (generally quite unhappy / unsatisfied with their lives, probably low-skilled, unmotivated etc) and the people that should go (very highly skilled, very highly-motivated, very emotionally stable and responsible) seem like almost mutually exclusive groups of people.

Not many in that former group are going to be able to afford it; not many people who can afford it are going to want to do it. It would be a massive, horrendous reduction in living standards for anyone with an upper-middle class US/European lifestyle.

There will be a handful of really adventurous smart people who would want to go; but not enough to build a functioning society. I really think robots are going to have to do most of the work or it probably won't get done.

Certainly I'd like to go at some point, but not until it's possible to:

A) Make the trip in a month or two
B) I could be sure that there would be the option to return at least every 3 months or so
C) The living standards on Mars would be comparable to the living standards in a university dorm, or a Nordic prison (think the sort of thing Breivik lives in)
D) There was only a negligible risk of something going wrong (i.e. going to Mars, living there for a few months and coming back to Earth would be no riskier than taking an aeroplane from London to NYC)

[Anonymous No.8269666]

>>8269664
it burns up on reentry, its orbit is on a reentry trajectory

[Anonymous No.8269669]

>>8269660

> no idea how to outrun the hard wired limit of biological senescence

I'm not sure that's true, actually; there are certainly plenty of ideas (Aubrey de Grey and his SENS research foundation have advanced a quite detailed plan of action on this), it's just that research into whether the ideas work or not isn't receiving anywhere near an appropriate level of funding relative to the importance of the problem.

Ageing is what kills about 90% of people in developed countries, yet less than 1% of the budget for basic medical research goes into research on ageing.

[Anonymous No.8269671]

>>8269666
If both the S2 and satellite are in a GSO, what keeps the satellite in orbit and the S2 in a reentry trajectory

[Anonymous No.8269673]

>>8269665
youre retarded, you dont understand how human psychology works, many super talented people take risks

many people do things not because of money

get out of your ameriburguer mentality for a second and see how a normal passionate human person really works

>>8269669
yeah little small talk, all the billies bnoys can do that

show me resulting result? what? no results since modern medicine has been invented? practically proven forever literally objectively realistically that the limit is 120?

ok thank you for participation
dont worry i wont tell your firends that i beat you
that is
hehe
of course
hehe
if youre good
hehe, so dont go around annoying me too much or ill tell them and the shame will bee sooo muuuch
lol
well
gotta go pwn another inferior

XOXO kisses and penguins

[Anonymous No.8269674]

>>8269671
the satellite has its own thrusters which will take it into its definitive orbit.

also, anything not under propulsion will eventually burn up until its in a really high orbit

you know the atmosphere doesnt just stop at 100 km, theres still plenty of friction, even the ISS experiences so much friction that its practically a slow airplane

[Anonymous No.8269677]

>>8269674
thanks

[Anonymous No.8269680]

Just checked the video I took from 10 miles out, and while it's not great by any stretch of the imagination, it's still video of the launch, so after I transfer it to my computer I'll post a .webm of it or something.

[Anonymous No.8269681]

>>8269680
Awesome. It was too cloudy where I live.

[Anonymous No.8269684]

>>8269681
I could watch it with naked eye up until second stage separation, but I think my camera lost good visual just before that. It was really fucking neat to watch it. Had a couple of Irish folks pull up right after me with a better camera and gave them my info so hopefully they'll send me their videos.

[Anonymous No.8269695]

>>8269684
Awesome: I can't really tell when stage separation happens, or at least I haven't been so perceptive yet. I'm all the way down in Broward.
Still is fun to watch. Not as bright as the space shuttle was, but it has an interesting large white blob that surrounds it at some point.

[Anonymous No.8269698]

>>8269674
>even the ISS experiences so much friction that its practically a slow airplane

I thought this was neat when I learned about it. I knew they were still in atmosphere just not that it was able to still influence anything when it was so thin.

[Anonymous No.8269704]

>>8269695
Never got to watch a Shuttle launch, sadly. My dad claims to have been about 2 miles away and had the water near him shaking. I doubt he was that close, but that's still pretty intense.

[Anonymous No.8269706]

>>8269704
Oh, I've never seen any sort of launch of any rocket close-up. The space shuttle was just an orange dot in the sky.

[Anonymous No.8269708]

>>8269706
Still better than my not having seen any Shuttle launch except post-launch video.

I'm going to take some time for the .webm and try to get it down to under 3MB. It's about 2 minutes of video, or I could upload part 1 and then part 2.

[Anonymous No.8269709]

>>8269708
Multiparter kudasai.

[Anonymous No.8269713]

>>8269709
Too late. All in one. Yes, I know it's not focused properly. Yes, I know it's shot on a potato.

[Anonymous No.8269715]

>>8269713
That's the sort of sunrise the sun does when it never wants to come back.

[Anonymous No.8269719]

>>8269715
It was a good bit brighter and louder than my video will show. Not "lights up the whole sky" bright, but there's definitely no missing it. I'm converting the entire video (short of the minute of nothingness before the engines light) right now and will post momentarily.

[Anonymous No.8269721]

>>8269719
I guess nothing long than 2 minutes. I'll just put on the last 2 minutes as a Part 2 of sorts. Nothing more unless you want a YouTube video of the full thing with barely audible rumble, camera scraping against wood and SpaceX webcast in the background.

[Anonymous No.8269731]

>>8269578
Thank you based elon

[Anonymous No.8269733]

>>8269721
https://youtu.be/t1tfWS_yPTk

[Anonymous No.8269738]

>>8269671
They're both in GTO, with a low perigree. The satellite will circularise at apogee, the S2 will come back down and the thin atmosphere at perigee will eventually de-orbit it.

[Anonymous No.8270270]

>>8269733
Thanks Matt

[Anonymous No.8270470]

>>8269320
>its a successful barge landing episode
>I missed it again

[Anonymous No.8270508]

>>8269738
Gto is a circular orbit, none of them is in one

one of them circularises the orbit and the other one doesnt, you would know this if you played ksp

[Anonymous No.8271151]

>>8269644
It's still tradition at this point though.

[Anonymous No.8271158]

What about getting launches of top of something like concord?

[Anonymous No.8271299]

>>8270270
Not a problem, anon.

[Anonymous No.8271324]

>>8271158
There was a previous Russian concept for a small rocket launched from a supersonic fighter (MiG-25 IIRC) but it never really went anywhere. It would be restricted to small launchers. Something larger like Concord would be interesting but would still have small-ish payloads and could be dangerous during separation. Concord was also high maintenance. Generally with air launch you want a simple aircraft with lots of payload rather than speed.

[Anonymous No.8271325]

>>8270508
GTO is Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit, it's elliptical.

[Anonymous No.8271522]

>>8269610
It's true. Star trek is communist.

[Anonymous No.8272743]

>>8269578
Thank you based Elon