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Hey /sci/

ITT: Discuss subjects pertaining to undergraduate science and math

I'm a second year ECE student, trying to get in on some undergraduate research for the first time this fall semester so maybe I can get into MIT for grad school. But who am I kidding - I'm a white male, so I probably have no chance

>> No.8258081

>>8258067
Are you asking or demanding dipshit?

>> No.8258083

>>8258081
I am neither asking nor demanding anything.

This is just a discussion thread about science and math as it pertains to undergraduate studies

>> No.8258087

I'm majoring in Mathematics. Starting my program next week. I'm going to attend SFSU for my B.A. then Rutgers University for my Ph.D It'll probably be in Algebraic Geometry.

>> No.8258090

>>8258087
It's going to be your first year?

How do you know for certain you are going to be able to attend Rutgers?

>> No.8258120

>>8258090
If he is non-white, non-straight or non-cis then the chances of him not being able to get into wherever he wants are pretty much 0.

Only white people have to worry about being accepted.

>> No.8258134

>>8258067
>But who am I kidding - I'm a white male, so I probably have no chance
Shut the fuck up. Not only is affirmative action borderline non-existent for graduate school, stop blaming your failures on some boogeyman. That school is majority white and majority male.

>> No.8258138

>>8258120
Only people who use double negatives have to worry about being accepted.

>> No.8258149

I'm going to Wesleyan probably for Math and thinking about doing the 3-2 into engineering at Columbia or cal tech. This seem like a good idea?

>> No.8258150

>>8258134
I'm not blaming my failures on a "boogeyman". But in order for me to get into MIT, I either have to literally be the best of the best, OR I have to be non-white or non-male

And I'm ashamed to say I am not the best of the best

>> No.8258159

>>8258150
Go ahead and look through these grad students. No department is investing so much time, reputation, and money on a moron just because he's black.

http://math.mit.edu/directory/gallery/?group=graduate

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>>8258159
>tfw no qt MIT Graduate Student gf

Well, perhaps you're right. You must understand why I would think otherwise, considering how undergraduate admissions works for almost every school.

What do you think would be a good goal GPA to shoot for to get accepted? How many years of research, internships, etc.? Extracurriculars?

The professor I am going to do research with has a lot of honors and awards, seems to be quite esteemed.

>> No.8258170

>>8258149
with is the 3-2?

>> No.8258176

>>8258166
>What do you think would be a good goal GPA to shoot for to get accepted?
It doesn't matter.

>How many years of research, internships, etc.?
There is no pattern to it.

>Extracurriculars?
Doesn't matter even a little.

You need to get over an obsession with going to the "top" school and just work hard to learn as much as you can about your field. Your SOP should convince them that you can come in, and you will fit in and do meaningful research.

>> No.8258180

>>8258159
>Go ahead and look through these grad students

>Mohammad
>Eva
>Netanel
>Thao Do
>Gong
>Finucane
>Pavel
>Chenjie
>Ewain
>Chiheon
>Dongkwan
>Sungyoon
>Knizel
>Hyuk Jun
>Xue
>Asad Lodhia
>Lovasz

and that's without even scrolling down

you sure showed him

>> No.8258185

>>8258180
My fucking sides.

I am hispanic, /sci/. Can I cash in my non-white privilege or is it only for blacks, arabs and asians?

>> No.8258187

>>8258176
so it's all about the essay, is what you're saying

well I'm gonna be stressing over that.

Will work hard to get the best GPA and experience with both Research and Internships I can. Thank you, anon

>> No.8258193

>>8258150
You're suprised that you have to be the best of the best to go to the best engineering school in the continent, quite probably the world? Fuck off mate

>> No.8258195

>>8258180
Half of those are East Asiain names. I can promise affirmative action is not what got those people anywhere near a math department. Many are Eastern European -- again, not affirmative action.

>>8258187
The important thing is that you have something to say in the essay. This is accomplished by talking about your subject with professors throughout undergrad, studying outside and beyond the scope of classes, picking up research experience, etc. Don't worry about it so much at this point.

>> No.8258196

>>8258185
I applied to MIT undergrad and had an interview with an MIT alumni.

Dude was white as fuck, but had a spanish sounding name. During the interview I told him about all the AP classes I was taking. The Physics, the Chemistry, Biology, Calculus.

He proceeded to tell me that he never took any AP classes in high school, just an IB course. Didn't even take calculus. He even told me he suspects he got accepted to MIT because he marked on his application that he is half-hispanic because his mom was from Colombia or something.

He then told me that at MIT in the undergraduate dorms, all the students put off their work until the day before it is due (apparently it was all due on Fridays), and they would stay up all night Thursday night and work on it together.

That took up the first 1/3 of the interview. For the next 2/3 he talked to me about Age of Empires 2 and how it is superior to all other RTS games.

>> No.8258199

>>8258196
WTF

>> No.8258200

>>8258196
So did you get in?

>> No.8258201

>>8258200
Nope, I did not get in.

>> No.8258203

>>8258196
My nigga. I'm set for life then.

>all the students put off their work until the day before it is due

This is just normal behavior. I mean, if you do homework early I think you are a faggot. I've actually come to class (I'm in undergrad), sat down and started doing the proofs the professor asked right there. I don't ask or copy from anyone, I just do it there and hand it to the professor.

>> No.8258208

>>8258203
>I think you are a faggot
Nah, I'm just a brainlet.

>> No.8258210

>>8258208
>Nah, I'm just a brainlet.

Maybe this is true but it doesn't end there. When someone has the time to do homework I just think that person is a fucking virgin nerd.

I mean, I am studying mathematics and I love it but nigga I am a busy man. The moment I leave the mathematics building is the moment I stop thinking about all that shit. If you can leave university and still be thinking about your homework then there is no helping it, you are a helpless nerd.

Git gud.

>> No.8258213

>>8258203
>>8258210
Are you being fucking serious?

>> No.8258218

>>8258210
Holy shit, Chard Thundercock is lurking around us and is a beast at math.

God fucking damn.

>> No.8258221

>>8258213
I don't know what you mean but I can tell you that nothing I've said is a lie.

I am a second semester math major if that helps.

>> No.8258223

>>8258221
>I am a second semester math major if that helps.
What are you so goddamn busy with? I don't think you really enjoy math that much if you can't be bothered putting in the time to think about it. I sincerely hope you weren't one of the ones posting about going to grad school earlier, because you're going to hate it there.

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g-g-go dawgs...

>> No.8258237

>>8258223
>ou can't be bothered putting in the time to think about it.

This is my free time and I am in /sci/. I think about math almost all the time, I just don't think my homework because I am not a fucking little kid.

>What are you so goddamn busy with?
I work part time in software.

> I sincerely hope you weren't one of the ones posting about going to grad school earlier

I haven't posted about that but I don't know. Maybe I will go to grad school. My professors are already pressuring me telling me that they want me to do a thesis for my graduation and not the seminar. I know the moment I graduate they are going to pressure me about getting a PhD aswell,I can see it in their eyes.

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>>8258221
>I am a second semester math major if that helps.
Oh, fucking kek. No wonder you do all the "proofs" in the hour they are due. You're probably still taking baby calculus, aren't you, Chad? You're in for some fucking shit in the near future, let me tell you.

>>8258223
>What are you so goddamn busy with?
He's got responsibilities. Can't miss those frat parties, breeeeehhh

>> No.8258247

>>8258244
>No wonder you do all the "proofs" in the hour they are due

Pretty much. Longest proof I've written was for euclidean geometry and was maybe half a page long. I know shit is going to get crazy later but I don't see myself ever struggling.

>You're probably still taking baby calculus

Second semester implies Calculus II so yes.

>> No.8258264

>>8258221
>>8258210

I pity that you cannot even comprehend how deluded you are about reality. 2nd semester students of any major are hardly busy. You only probably got a B on a Calc 2 test that everyone got a D on. Realize that you're a moron now, so that you can still salvage yourself.

>> No.8258269

>>8258264
>2nd semester students of any major are hardly busy.

As I said before, university is not my only personal and intellectual endeavor right now and it probably won't ever be because I don't see myself quitting my job.

>You only probably got a B on a Calc 2 test that everyone got a D

I am just taking Calc 2. That said, last semester in Calc 1 I would get As when most people were getting C's and I passed with a percentage of 110% because the professor gave some free points so that not too many kids would fail and for me that just meant that I was doing better than perfect in terms of score.

I am not a moron but if you are telling me this then I probably know less than you at the moment. Not that I care.

>> No.8258301

>>8258224
saved

>> No.8258314

I really hope my uni adds more seats to the ochem sections. They're capped at 24 and the waitlist is capped at 24. All four sections are completely full. I'm sixth on the waitlist

I really hope I can get an internship or research position this year too

God I hope something good happens

>> No.8258316

>>8258067
Currently going into my second year toward a computer science degree.

Don't really know what I want to do with my life. I keep hearing horror stories about people working in the industry who, despite making a lot of money, are basically just code monkeys. I'm wondering if I should try to get a PhD and do some more intellectually-satisfying work. I would probably switch to a mathematics major, but I've already wasted three semesters before switching to computer science and I don't want to fuck around anymore.

>> No.8258383

>>8258170
3 years at liberal arts college then 2 at a associated college that has an engineering program.

>> No.8258447

>>8258087
Rutgers math program is god tier

>> No.8258462

>>8258180
I'm an MIT undergrad student doing research. Over half of our lab is chinese and indian, probably 30% white, a couple hispanics and there's like 1 black guy

>> No.8258463

Tbqh everything I've heard about MIT sounds pretty miserable. My advisor did her postdoctoral research there and she said everyone is brutally critical of each other.

I've decided against grad school but I'd choose Berkeley or Stanford over MIT in a heartbeat.

>> No.8258467

>>8258196
Lol this is ridiculous, that guy must have had pretty mediocre performance. I'm coming into senior year, pretty much everyone is working all the time. Even over the summer, everyone is working internships and then studying for the fall classes. That guy slimed you hard in the interview, probably didn't want to get you hyped since he realized you wouldnt get in.

>> No.8258482

>>8258120
/pol/ get the fuck out please

You're just a brainlet. Top colleges and universities don't give a fuck about your ethnicity. My brainlet friend kept complaining about he was refused to a college just because he's white. Dumbfuck.

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>>8258180
>Most are Asian names

Yes, and the sky is blue, what does that change?

When American teams in mathematical and science competitions are mostly white, you can come back to complain about how poor whitey is opressed.

>> No.8258485

>>8258180
You're retarded.

>> No.8258486

>>8258483
>that photo
JFC. I'm nerdy as fuck, but goddamn do I hate nerds. At least attempt to take care of your body ffs, you pretentious little fucks.

>> No.8258490

>>8258486
When you're at that level, you don't have the time to care about your body. These guys are probably addicted to math just as much as my uncle was addicted to smoking (smoked a couple of cigarette packs each day).

You can't blame them buddy. At least their focus is on the right thing.

>> No.8258495

>>8258150
Graduate school admissions are very autonomous by department and affirmative action isn't going to do a whole lot there.

>> No.8258511

>>8258237
>working part time
Shut up fag. Talk to me when you're in grad school working full time and have a needy ass gf who requires attention all the time. Then you can say you're busy. I don't even have time to wipe my own ass

>> No.8258521

>>8258511
>Talk to me when you're in grad school

You don't need to set up a weird hierarchy of who is more busy. It is not like I claimed I am the busiest person in the world.

>d have a needy ass gf who requires attention all the time.

wew lad

>He settles down and becomes the cuck provider of a woman
>Not just fucking around with as many women as you want for the same sexual satisfaction and none of the bullshit

Well, I guess to each their own. Last time I had a girlfriend I was a fucking teenager. I grew out of that phase quick.

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>>8258511
Congrats bro, you're so busy! You win the self-persecution-complex award! Your troubles are so significant!

>> No.8258536

>>8258511
Wow your life sucks. Haha sucks to be you. Maybe if you weren't such a shit person your life would be better.

You're a fucking loser.

>> No.8258545

>>8258269
Oh really? Name these "personal and intellectual endeavors". Browsing /r/futurology is not a valid extracurricular.

>your prof gave free points and everyone got Cs but I got an A
>better than perfect
Lol no. If your prof is handing out points, your uni is garbage. Also, your better than perfect score is negated by the fact you were handed points.

Seriously. Your ego is inflated. Take some time to realisticly evaluate yourself and improve, rather than masturbate on a tibetian wagon messageboard.

>> No.8258553

>>8258545
>personal and intellectual endeavors

Software, both personal projects I handle on my own and at a company.

>Lol no. If your prof is handing out points, your uni is garbage. Also, your better than perfect score is negated by the fact you were handed points.

But I already had a 100%. That is how I went over to a 110%. Do you even know how this shit works?

> Your ego is inflated.

I take this moment to tell you that all those posts I made talking about myself were as a response to a bunch of faggots that got butthurt as fuck when I said that if you take homework seriously and worry about it you are a helpless virgin nerd.

Next time don't get triggered and I won't have a platform to talk about random shit.

>> No.8258838

>>8258553
Not that guy but you seem a little self satisfied for accomplishing fuck all. Some of us were cruising through differential equations in high school. Trust me when I say no one but your mom is impressed with how easy calc 2 is for you at your shit tier university. Hope you realize everyone who is going anywhere is at a better university than you taking more advanced classes.
If you have to tell yourself none of us are having sex to cope go ahead but don't be surprised when you get called out for being a dumbass cocky freshmen.

>> No.8259010

>>8258838
lmao he is a cocky freshman but you need to shut the fuck up too, nerd

let the kid be proud of his accomplishments.

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>>8258482
Uhh...

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>>8259038
>>8258067

>> No.8259177

>>8258838
You see this? When your autism makes you post something like this it makes me want to go into more detail about what I've actually accomplished so you stop talking shit about me.

But I don't care because if I do some other faggot will just follow up with the same bullshit.

All I'm saying is that just the word 'homeowrk' makes me think of fucking highschool and when I imagine someone who seriously worries about getting his homework done in time I can only picture a fat mouth breather whose dick is covered more in dust than in pubes.

It is the truth. Git gud.

>> No.8259198

>>8259044
>>8259038
nice /pol/ charts

what's the source? faux news? lmao, kill yourself conservatard

>> No.8259204

>>8259198
Exactly. Honestly I don't see what the outrage is about. Clearly white people are inferior, you should just accept that we get privilege over you because we are better people.

Stop being crybabies and accept the world you live in for what it is.

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>>8259198
>>8259204
Nice counter arguments, bix nood.

>> No.8259322

>>8259177
The problem sets are where all of the learning happens in math. You'll learn this when you finish up your high school part 2 classes you pompous ass.

>> No.8259326

>>8259198
>guhh kill yourself conservatard
>implying admission rules aren't much more lenient on people that aren't asian or white

>> No.8259421

>>8259177
When you post something like this

>haha dumb virgin nerds doing homework

Because your highschool level math class is easy. It makes everyone else want to tell you what a retard you are. Because you are one.

>> No.8259659

>>8259322
>The problem sets are where all of the learning happens in math.

I do problems, I just don't worry about them and usually do not think about them while I am not in class.

If a set of problems is given to us to return then I just solve it right there or if I can't then I wait until tomorrow and solve it then.

>>8259421
I cannot help it but find it dumb. It also kinda makes me cringe and it affects me directly. I don't really get along too well with anyone in my major and most of my friends are engineering people and it is not unusual for me to call our skype group to play videogames or talk about anime and at least one of those faggots is like

>Uhh, I have this assignment I have to get done so I can't right now

NIGGA PLEASE. It makes me cringe so hard. You could be playing Rocket League right now! You could be masturbating right now! You could be watching good anime my man and you are wasting your youth!

Maybe one day when I become old, jaded and gay like you people I will start pussying about my homework.

>Oh, I better get it done! I better be a good responsible little cuck and do my work! I-if not they might scold me! Oh no I wouldn't want that because I am good little pussyboi cuckboi

>> No.8259721

>tfw you're third year undergrad RA, professor said you're best undergrad in dept
>but you're white male so chance of grad school admissions is nil

>> No.8259734

>>8259659
>you are wasting your youth!
Your youth is already over. I know it's hard to see that because you're a freshman and college is basically high school 2.0.

It's cool if you are a super-genius who doesn't have to study and you like to spend your free time watching chinese cartoons, playing children's video games and spouting /pol/ memes, but other people have to spend more time to study. And some people even like to spend their free time learning about shit. You're going to have to learn to cope with that eventually.

>it affects me directly
No, it doesn't. You have two options:

1. Get new friends.
2. Stop getting fucked up because other people do things differently from you.

>I don't really get along too well with anyone in my major
I can't possibly imagine why. You seem like a kind, empathetic, humble kid to me.

>> No.8259741

>>8259734
>No, it doesn't. You have two options:
>1. Get new friends.

I always imagined that everyone in 4chan would know why this is never a viable option.

Looks like facebook up in here now but coincidentally today when leaving university I was just thinking about finding a way to make new friends quick. Maybe I will find some kind of anime club somewhere.

>I can't possibly imagine why. You seem like a kind, empathetic, humble kid to me.

Nobody in my classes watches anime so I don't really have anything in common with them. We talk but the only thing we can bond over is math and you only talk about math so much, specially outside of school.

Also, talking about math in real life is different from talking about math here.

That said, I am not kind or empathetic but I am humble.

>> No.8259990

>>8258536
You know what? I'm not even going to argue with that because you're right I am a fucking loser!

>> No.8259992 [DELETED] 

/sci/ join ##sci on freenode.

webchat.freenode.net

/join ##sci

We need more /sci/ folks

>> No.8260033

>>8258067
>dat logo

Is that the mythical black beaver puma?

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>>8258247
>second semester
>calculus II
American education in a nutshell

>> No.8260085

>>8259992
All 4chan channels are on Rizon, you tremendous pleb.

>> No.8260088

>deluded and arrogant ESL weeb thinks he's better than everyone else for passing freshman math courses
who would've expected anything else ?

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>>8260088
>the professor gave us an assignment?!
>I better hurry up and finish it during class so I can go home and watch my cute girl Nihongo cartoons!

>> No.8260297

>>8260088
I also never said that I was better than everyone. Literally I just made an insult towards a vague group of people, not even directly targeted everyone, and because you fucking know you are one of them you got #triggered as fuck.

Next time I will do a #triggerwarning for you, faggots.

>>8260110
What is wrong with getting shit done immediately to ensure an easier day? Honestly, homework in general is dumb. There are two types of assignments

>Shit you could do on the spot so why even tell us to hand it next week or some shit
Or the worse ones
>Shit that is just a grind. Trivial bullshit that will regardless take a couple of hours because you just have to do a lot of shit

Both of them I consider disgusting work that should be given to monkeys instead. The way I cope with the fact that I have to deal with it is by ignoring it and not even considering it part of my day. Because of this when I see faggots who do take it seriously I cannot help but think they are never going to get laid and are just fucking spergs.

Seriously all you got to do is chill. You are adults now, faggots. The homework is not even graded most of the time so why do you obsess so much over it? If you have anything to prove about yourself then it is at the final exams, spergs.

>> No.8260314

>>8260297
>you got #triggered as fuck.
>Next time I will do a #triggerwarning for you, faggots.

This is the worst deflection to come to 4chan.

>> No.8260319

>>8260297
Honestly, it sounds like you are just taking really terrible classes. I'm not sure how this has given you such a superiority complex, though.

>> No.8260322

>>8260319
>I'm not sure how this has given you such a superiority complex

I only think I am superior to good little cuckbois who do their homework the moment they get home like the good tamed ex-men they are.

That is not much of a superiority complex. It is like saying I am superior to thrash.

>> No.8260323

>>8258087
planning on majoring in math and physics, starting at rutgers this fall. Is it actually a good school? I only went because it's cheap and i didn't get into oxford.

>> No.8260328

>>8260323
Rutgers was mentioned at that series of videos titled 'So you want to get a PhD in mathematics' so if your plan was to become a mememan then you are doing great.

That is literally all I know about that school.

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>>8258486
https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw

>> No.8260330

who /EE/ here ?

going into my 3rd year, hope to get an internship next summer. Gonna be applying to just about everything.

>> No.8260333

>>8259198
google the average SAT scores of people in top school by race. It's a huge fucking difference. I'm not /pol/ at all (voting shillary) but you can't deny affirmative action has a big effect.

>> No.8260353

>>8260333
>(voting shillary)

>Yes, women are opressed in society!
>Yes, my girlfriend is actually in an open relationship. I don't have another partner but she has 3 other guys. I don't mind because I want to make her happy
>Yes, I am into getting cucked
>Yes, I prefer it when girls use strap ons to dominate and fuck me

wew lad

>> No.8260367

>>8260353
>youre not voting for meme man
>b-but dont you r-reazlize that makes you a c-cuck?
>f-fucking cuck

>> No.8260380

>>8260367

>voting for someone with a disastrous leadership record
>voting for a woman to be Commander-in-Chief
>letting the Supreme Court swing liberal and probably female for 30 years

Read your history, then delete your strawmans and fuck off

>> No.8260404

>>8260380
actually i'm just voting for her because she has policies and I don't think she'll fuck up the country too badly. I can't say the same for meme man.

>inb4 le wall payed for by mexico counts as a policy

he doesn't even support free trade lol. I like how triggered everyone gets about him but you have to stop falling for the meme.

>> No.8260410

>>8260404
Meme man will make anime real.

Meme woman will make it illegal to objectify anime women.

I think now you know who to pick.

>> No.8260423

>>8260404
How is free trade in your self-interest?

inb4 it helps the economy
There's no such thing. It helps some people, it fucks some people up. How are you profiting from untapped free trade?

>> No.8260433

>>8260423
A world where everyone can trade with anyone is a better world.

I am simply amazed at the fact that some place far away there is a taiwanese web dev who hosts and develops one of the hentai websites I masturbate to, not because he wishes for me to have good ejaculations, but because he can profit off my ejaculations.

God bless free capitalism and freer capitalism means stronger capitalism and stronger capitalism means better capitalism.

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>>8260423
i can buy cheaper shit. I'm planning on going into academia so outsourcing isn't really a worry for me. Also, it triggers /pol/ which results in more zesty memes.

>> No.8260488 [DELETED] 

mathematicians, join our new sci channel

##sci

webchat.freenode.net

>> No.8260523 [DELETED] 

>>8260488
Real channel: #sci

http://rizon.net/chat

>> No.8261808

Anyone here ever decided to graduate early? can you still go to grad school if you graduate early and have good grade?
I don't give two shit about college experience beside internship and research. I fucking hate college and I just want to get the fuck out

>> No.8261930
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8261930

Do you have snowboard halls there at MIT so I can study there?

It´s easy to have artifical snowboard hall...

Or, and you need to admit it, really suck at engeneering...

>> No.8262262

>>8261930
What

I've read this post a few times and have no idea what you're saying

>> No.8262277

>>8258545
>if your prof is handing out points, your uni is garbage
So cambridge is garbage

Wew

>> No.8262301

>>8262277
It is, though...

>> No.8262336

incoming mit student here, im white and am not an eagle scout or olympian. did zero sports in high school and was only in the math club along with 2 other people. I kek at those who would say impossible to get in if white, truly i kek

>> No.8262351

>>8258134
When I toured MIT last year, the only white people I saw there were female.

>> No.8262727

>>8260059
ugh i know...
too much time wasted on arithmetic and "pre-" everything.
too much drilling and not enough teaching.

on a completely different note:
im wanting to study mathematical logic (computability, model theory, etc), but all of the decent courses are all listed as being graduate level...
is there a reason for this?

>> No.8262786

>>8258247
I'm not even a math major (Mech eng), but I live with a fuckload of applied math guys and we party 3-4 nights a week and they all do fine. Just find a group to work with and you'll be fine.

>> No.8262842

>>8258224
>tfw i didn't get in

I want to kill myself